German Flecktarn Effectiveness
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- In this video we test the effectiveness of German Flecktarn camouflage in a heavily vegetated woodland environment. Like the American woodland and British DPM patterns German Flecktarn has had a long service length with the German military. This video includes scenes that show the patterns use when both concealed with and without the use of vegetation in the environment, as well as what the pattern looks like moving and stationary.
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My 2 and 5 year old had a ball trying to find you each time. Thanks
Glad to hear, thanks for watching.
This pattern is more effective in mid-europe (specially germany) because there is more brown in vegetation...
Johann S. The Danish pattern could work well there
Willi W.
Exactly, the m84 or m96 pattern is working really well here in northern Europe.
And maybe it would work in this environment too.
I like the flecktarn, but unless you stay in the shades it seems a little too dark.
Just my personal opinion.
Works pretty well in European part of Russia.
Yes, Flecktarn is effective in Central and Northern Europe, because the forests are dark, so the dark green, black and brown blend in well. But there is another reason; the mostly cloudy, overcast daylight conditions, so no direct sunlight in the Central European forests. Therefor no need for the color tan on Flecktarn. There is light green in Flecktarn, 11 % of the pattern, to mimic young leafs.
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Thanks for the demo, you nailed it’s strengths - dark back grounds, shade and moving behind screening cover
You cant really test it in us woods. Its made for wet dark german woods, but still pretty good.
+John Vejvoda I think its still decently effective here. There is a lot of surplus German Flecktarn here in the U.S. so there's a lot of people that like to see how it looks in the woods on our side of the world.
+Brent0331 I think a lot of people overestimate how dark German forests actually are too. Some patches of it, with Fur and Pine are very dark indeed, but a lot of the deciduous are pretty much the same as they are in the US. The only thing that really makes German forests any darker than American ones is the weather. Even then give me a picture of a forest in the hills Washington State and one in Hesse or Franken and I think I'd be hard put to tell the difference.
+Patrick Weygoldt How about Danish tarn? Nice and green.
just depends on where you live. Even here in texas i use flecktarn and its pretty effective.
The pattern is highly effective in areas where there are pine tree forests, evergreen tree forests, mixed with oak and other leaf trees - the leaves and needles fall to the ground - all these aspects come together here in the South where the pattern lives up to its design.
Great vid, Flecktarn is one of the better and more timeless patterns out there. I'd imagine that in the forests of Europe, its incredibly effective, for more than in the forests of the US except for those in the PNW
pnw has dark pine foliage like europe
Joachim Peiper it does pretty well in late fall Michigan where there's a lot of grays and dark colors once the leaves have stopped being extremely orange and red
Works well in my part of Florida
flektarn works insanely well in the southeastern u.s.
not all german forests are that dark. we also have some of these u guys have
When I did my military service so many years ago, I saw the effect of our camouflage-muster (Flecktarn) really intense during a marathon. It was a misty morning in November and my comrade was about 50 meters before me. He became blur with the forest. A real stealth-thing!
Did you know that the Dutch rejected this camoflauge to their army because they considered it to aggressive looking
Randy Brown Interesting
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A version of this camo was used by Belgian airforce commando's until the early '90s but then they too had to switch on the "modern" jigsaw pattern because the socialist government of the time thought it made them look too much like the SS :D
Randy Brown LMFAO XDDDDD LOL RLY THE ARMY IS MENT TO BE AGGRESSIVE LMAO THEY AINT WINNING ANY WAR SOON
Randy Brown No the Dutch Army personal complained that Flecktarn looked like a flower pattern (wallpaper). However the TNO lab tested it with positive results. The personal were used to macro camo patterns and Flecktarn is a micro pattern. So it was too revolutionary.
Mardiff V. Haha I showed my wife because I wanted the gortex jacket and she said it looked like some granny flower pattern.
A few years ago, I served in the German Federal Forces for two years. With my fellow soldiers, I had some discussions about the effectiveness of the German Flecktarn too. The bottom line of these discussions? German Camouflage is way too dark for most environements, especially for forrests in spring time. Just take a look at the scene at 03:17 and you will agree.
But believe it or not, even in many German dark evergreen forrests, the German Flecktarn is too dark. Flecktarn camouflaged Soldiers seen from the distance appear as dark little spots in almost e very location.
However, the camouflage pattern of German flecktarn is pretty good. In order to improve Flecktarn, the composition of colours should be changed sightly to that effect that the black elements are replaced by lighter green ones. Then flecktarn would be an excellent uniform for multiple environments.
They did that, the older patern had very dark green and brigthish orange, they changed to lighter green and less "flashy" orange in the 2000's.
Ich diene momentan auch und muss sagen, dass die neuen Uniformen echt verdammt gut an unsere Wälder angepasst sind. Die alten Flecktarn Feldblusen und Hosen waren ein wenig zu braun, aber das wurde ausgebessert.
if you served you should know that there a variants of the Flecktarn for Sommer, Spring, Autum and desert and tropical as well. for winter there is a special suit.
@@Bjoern211 what ? maybe on paper... but not in reality
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Of all the camo patterns I've seen tested on this channel, this one was the most difficult for me to see, by far. The only one that came close was the Schneetarn. I'm going to have to show this video to my brother, because he keeps bugging me about how I keep getting gear with this pattern, instead of the US Woodland pattern that he and our dad love so much.
Stick to the shadows on a bright and sunny day. But generally agreed.
Nice video, I knew that German Flecktarn works very good from my 12 year in the German army. And of cause I know the pros and cons about it... As everybody is able to see, in brighter areas it is a bit to dark, but as longe as your are using the shadow areas even when your're walking than it's just perfect. So within the training in German army you will learn how to walk in the forest when the sun provides to much light. The only camo in the world which able to challenge Flecktarn is Multicam! in my opinion...
Oder eher das italienische "Vegetato"
bah, Multicum ist Overhyped ;-)
@@easygroove Ja.
@echeric76 agreed vegitato is one of the best. But I can't find much equipment that has the paternal just the uniforms. No helmet covers or mag pouches packs
I think the flecktarn is one of the most effectiveness camouflages. I have flecktarn clothes, i think they are amazing.
Btw, very good videos!
CADPAT is still my favorite. However a buddy of mine who happens to be German, has this pattern and he literally disappeared in a mixed deciduous/pine environment here in WV. So it is effective. Like everyone else commenting on Brent’s videos, I agree that there is an under-abundance of varying shades of green, in too many military camouflage patters. Only the Canadian Military CADPAT and A-TACS people seemed to have grasped this concept.
as a Canadian I want to say Thank you for noticing us eh.
Hey man I just wanted to say thank you for putting the time into making these videos, they truly are unique. Myself as well as a lot of other people appreciate the quality of the vids, Cheers!
I would say it works best in autumn/fall because of the darker tones it was definitely not as affective in lighter areas but I still prefer to dpm or marpat
its made for germany , hes somewhere in texas i think so the plants are in a lighter green , in germany we have more darker forrests
I mixed up the flecktarn camo with the woodland camo. It's pretty effective because some people stumbled across my path without even noticing that I was kneeling down beside them when they walked on pass. Great videos by the way.
Thanks for the vid. It is really good to see how camo reacts to the light and surroundings. Helps to decide before you buy. I am having fun with Swedish M90 at the moment.
Thank you! Always wanted to see a GOOD video of this real time.
Hey Brent, I love how you took the time to use the appropriate firearms in each of your country specific camo setups. HK for german, VZ58 for czech, m-16/m-14 for vietnam era tigerstripe. Good attention to detail!
Thanks man, I try my best, sometimes I'm unable to match but if I have it I'll use it.
you should do a video like this in a german forest,because you will see that this camo is perfect for middle european vegetation
+Don Keulus Wish I could, I don't have that capability. I'm sure someone that lives there has done a video or two already.
The new flecktarn is called multitarn and a little bit brighter...this or multicam will win ...we will see :)
Was happy to find this video. I like the pattern and even purchased some surplus clothing to copy it onto some equipment. Based on this research I learned that I need to lighten up the colors some to be more effective in my neck of the world. As you watch the subject is hiding in the darkest part of the areas under observation. Once he emerges it is very easy to see him moving in the lighter areas. If he had stopped there would have still been too much contrast. Lighter it is for me, darker for Germany. Thanks for the effort to produce this video.
Very well done and I am glad to have this pattern. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this video. I had chosen this pattern years ago for my personal hunting gear because of the splashes of reds in the environment where I live. Have never gotten to see what I look like in movment and hiding. Love our American patterns, but having not served, stolen valor is a thing too me. Great channel, and Thank you again for a Great video.
On days where the sun is shining bright like that flecktarn is too dark unfortunately, but here in germany its actually insane how good it works in the woods when the sun is not shining that bright wich is 3/4 of the year. Woodland has the same problem.
Finest i think thats the trade off. Better to be too dark (can always find shadows) than too bright.
Probably work great in Britain too where it is overcast and or wet most of the time.
@@yorkshirecoastadventures1657 the knew flecktarn is more with light green and brown so it also works good in the sun
Nicely done effective videos. Thanks for the time and effort.
Gadget's Gear Thanks brother
I used Flektarn in Oregon, in the US and it worked great. People were very impressed in it's efficiency. The pattern was based off of SS camo. There's a reason it's still being used almost 80 years later. The Germans and Swiss are superb at designing.
Great Video!
I am always surprised how good Flecktarn works, even in a bright forest... just imagine how it would look like in the dark German forests^^
I was waiting so long for a good Flecktarn Review, thanks for your video. =)
Regards from Germany!
No problem man, thanks for watching.
I play paintball and Flecktarn is my goto camo when it's dark and raining. I use Muliticam when the sun is out. Thanks for the vid!
Used the Belgian Fleck a lot years ago in Belgian forests, I had a game where I would blend with the vegetation near the paths, waiting for people passing by... and I've been caught only a few times :) Good ol' days !
Really good stuff. Ive been using it since about 95. The pants are the old BDU style. I like that type suits me better. Easy to adjust with the waist slider adjustments.
6:30 sounds like the Predator is hunting you !!! Get to da Choppa !!!
Mat Mac no wonder he’s always testing out these camo’s
I´m wearing the German Flecktarn B (groß) pattern uniform often in german woods. It´s very good here in Germany. It´s nice to see you hiding so perfectly in your woods in America. Well done!
+Norbert Evellei Thanks brother.
Tyvm I enjoy the differnet camo's you have made ty.
Thanks
Brings back great memories when i served 4 years in the German Airborne ( Fallschirmjäger) , This camo worked great during JRTC - Fort Polk Louisiana too - even suprised - disturbed the OPFOR recon team during their MRE Breakfast in the woods . Salute ! :-)
Great camo pattern. I have seen ti used and used it myself. While on training at the JRTC we had a German Paratrooper (Fallschrimjager) Platoon with us. There camo was better in the Louisiana Automn then our woodland at that time. And seeing it used here in Europe it beats all in the Spruce Forests here.
i love this camo its amazing.
und das für eine Vegetation und Gelände für das es nie vorgesehen war - Schlagschatten und Bewegungsarmut, zusammen mit Tarnbekleidung, machen Tarnung - a specialist in the job of camouflage, Respekt
I use it for Airsoft/Milsim. In my humble opinion I think it is the best camouflage out there right now. Thanks for the video very well done. Now I know what I look like...Or rather, DONT look like. Thanks brother!
Flecktarn is great in darker or shaded woodland, works well during autumn and damp/wet weather conditions. As a summer and open Forrest camouflage it isn't great. But what people need to bare in mind is that the main thing that give you away is movement, as long as you can identify what paths and movement to take to optimise your camouflage any woodland style camouflage would be effective.
This is my favorite pattern and works very well in the Lodgepole Pine swamps that dominate much of my AO.
One of the most important lessons in the german military is. "Sei ein Schatten zwischen Schatten". Meaning, you are in the shadows and stay in the shadows as long as possible. Also, the movement (or lack of it) is a huge part in german training.
Up here in western mass during the fall and right after winter when the snow is gone but it's not green yet this camo really shines. Haven't tested it in the summer yet but I'm sure it'll be good. I'm starting to like it more than m81 woodland.
In fact a couple friends and me were playing airsoft in the local woods. They had to find me and they had one guy on a drone looking for me. I wore my flecktarn uniform and I hid by some fallen pine and hid under some dying brown pine branches. They couldn't find me and one of them got upset bugged out. They hovered above me with a drone a few times and still couldn't see me. The other one found my tracks and he couldn't see me at all until I moved.
The camo uniform is one part of the equation the other is using terrain and vegetation to blend in.
Impressive results!!
No detection that i've ever seen.
Topic;
Flecktarn
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i have not seen all of your vids on this subject but so far flectarn is the only one im haveing fits picking out
Appreciate these videos. Really like this pattern. I'm certainly no expert, but if I can only carry one for all seasons and environments including urban (and we all know there is definitely no "best" for all scenarios) I still think this is one of the better ones. Even though it's a bit dark, it's still my go to for the area I live in, for better or worse.
John Montgomery Thanks for watching.
John Montgomery I am a Flecktarn lover too. I use it during the 3 cold seasons: fall, winter and spring. Because of the dark colors. During the green period I wear the Danish Flecktarn or OD.
+John Montgomery We have also a Wintertarn for german forces, also its only handed out during very cold, snowing winters. Just google the word to see it. Its nothing special.
We use the Flecktarn right now in every situation except desert or dry area. We use a 3 colour camouflage there, which we will change in the next years.
Still in development is an urban camouflage and a mountain "Flecktarn". Meanwhile the Bundeswehr is in a crisis, caused by politics and bad leading since 2010 i would not bet to see it before 2020 or later.
Watching your videos, I see that often the camo pattern does not matter much. It seems the most important thing is to match the overall brightness of your clothing with your surroundings. Hiding in the shadows is also critical.
I like it for fall and winter in the Midatlantic / Northeast areas where you still get patches of pine and Mount Laurel in the hills that remain green through the cold months Match the Flecktarn top with a pair of mid-brown trousers that match the woodland dead leaves on the ground and you can break up a body profile quite nicely.
I love that pattern, camo's are like pokemon you gotta get them all!!!
An amazing camo that works really well in the early-late fall and blends nicely into the woods leafy floor. Used the post 2005 version in Tennessee winter time. I vanished
great camo ... very effective in the undergrowth and leaf litter,
When introduced in 1990 after extensive testing by the german army,
Flecktarn and DPM were the two best performing patterns for Temperate Regions
for sure.
Flecktarn was also tested during the 80´s by the Dutch national research institue TNO and TNO concluded that Flecktarn worked well on the Northern German Plain of Lower Saxony. Which was the operation area of the Dutch Army. The Dutch Army did NOT adopt Flecktarn for 2 reasons:
1. The enlisted men did not like Flecktarn, because it looked like flower pattern wallpaper.
2. The generals did not like Flecktarn, because they witnessed WW2 and Flecktarn reminded them of the camo patterns worn by the Waffen SS.
@@mardiffv.8775 the Belgian air-force tested and adopted it in 1989-90 for use by their para-commando units, but it was quickly dropped due to the waffen SS similarity, I have owned some of their items, the flecktarn is slightly more orange which seemed to work better in sunny areas.
so watching some different videos like this to base my camo pattern for weapon systems and clothing. I will say, Flecktarn is good camo, but only in dark environments. I was able to spot the darker silhouette in the sun. The camo would work better in dark environments, but it looks like a tree trunk in the woods. easy to pick out in the sun. Great content!
Great videos. I think the Flecktarn works best in the low-light environment and the east German camo does a great job in the sunnier areas.
univox6786 Thanks for watching.
I have the jacket, but not the pants. I love your collection of camouflages.
Hi, in this forest we were trained to use natural materials for cover and only walk and act in the shadow. the woods are much darker. You know "blackwood forest" ATB Hans from Germany
I feel like you should do this in the fall or winter to show everybody what our forests look like during hunting season. Overall good showcase, i would prob opt for a lighter pattern with conditions like these. Kryptek mandrake or multicam would be better for this. Winter is when woodland and Flecktarn come out lol.
Nice outfit , I have a shirt they wear like Iron and they blend well in all woodlands types even here in the highland desert it blends pretty good with the dry sage brush and rock the problem with digital filming is the light over shadows everything dark, good video
Brent your fuckin cool in my eye dude I appreciate the operational aspect you show thank you
in germany it's sometimes called Schattentarn, meaning shadow camo. it works best when you stand in the shadow of a tree or structure. it's just as dark as a shadow but has enough color to not stand out as a black hole. at night or dusk and dawn it works like a charm too.
It does decent, it works better in germany our woods tend to be mixed needle & leaf, theres pretty much always more brown areas.
Hi Brent. Excellent vid again, many state that the flecktarn is for northern european woodland but this camo does not completely match that either and we do have the same woods here (in Holland) too. On excercise I could figure out the german ambush (too far off the natural colours and too dark) while our own dutch was often harder to see. The flecktarn like the brittish DPM is often too dark unless it's washed a lot and has faded.
The comment that says the SS camo is way better is as shown in your other vid absolutely right, only walking around as an army in that pattern in Europe? Not a good idea. The SS left too big a scar in our collective history to ever forget that.
Used Fleck back in the day turkey hunting in Northern Va. Was stupid effective in dappled lighting.
That stuff is pretty awesome Camo I like cause it works
One of my favorite camo
Хорошо, очень хорошо, я сначала думал что он слишком темный для такой местности, но он великолепно маскирует!
There's a Japanese spinoff of Flecktarn that's a little bit greener that I think would be interesting for you to test out. I had a set back home in Tennessee and I had people nearly step on me when I played around with it.
It's not great in TX but where I live, northern GA, it works very well from Spring through Fall. It's got too much green for winter unless you're near a lot of pine and even then the greens aren't quite right.
bout, 80%. but you threw me on a few. thanks for the free training
I've loved Flektarn ever since I saw it in COD Black Ops 1, where it's called "Berlin". Great pattern for dark toned temperate forests.
How well would you be able to see if you put that net mesh over your face or does it not make much difference in concealment.
I really like this Camo, but what do you think would be the absolute best for Philadelphia area (obviously a woodland area outside of philly)
Flecktarn/oak leaf patterns of all varieties are excellent and can't be beat, unless one can bend light and become opaque.
Been waiting for this video for a while and it does not disappoint, by the way what chest rig is that?
Old rig I bought years ago off of Opsgear.com, the brand is called TacForce.
Greetings. At 4:00 K9 is barking Alert! To your sound and scent. Overhead Aircraft is flying circles and grids looking for you! Flectarn works great in the honeysuckle vine and privethedge along roads, fencelines, and forest fringe here in Arkansas!
I still remember how we loved it when I started in 95 as we were on of the few formations having it. Today it is still effective but not fancy anymore- more than 30 years old. Replacements are planned but the Commandos already use Multicam or phantomleaf
may I ask what are your thoughts on flectarn vs m81 for this environment?
I've always described it as woodland camo with more diverse colors and without the massive blotches. On a bright day like this you're kinda noticeable if someone was actively looking for you. I'd love to have this design in a slightly brighter shade.
Through my experience in the service i can say its great for Spring, autumn and wet winter days and Of course its working perfectly in summer.
We usualy wear our helmets with a flecktarn cloth coating, in my company we used leo köhler combat shirts and removed all patches and the
national badge im combination with boonie hats or just the regular hat and a lot of field make up. Then we added some gras bushes and that stuff to ur helmet, gear, weapon etc etc u know.
fun fact we made our helmets that good that a lot of people almost stumble over their or other helmets haha. And yes some dudes lost their helmets for a few minutes.
Works well in the forests of northern WI and upper MI, the northwoods in general really. Same reason many German immigrants settled here, reminded them of home.
Beautiful footage, however I feel like this is more of a testimate to your awesome hiding skills in oppose to Flecktarn patterns' effectiveness...
I agree, some of those spots he could have been wearing blaze orange and you couldn't have seen him.
Видосик просто🔥Если быть в тени леса,вообще не заметно.
From your work it performs great in forest shades. Would be even better in German Black forest!
NICE!, this is the first honest test i have seen of flecktarn, where here in the states can you get the stuff?
I'd like to see a comparison of these patterns under night vision as well. Flecktarn is great for this
Great video man, is there any way you can do that same Flecktarn setup in the fall/winter like you did with multicam?
I might, just depends on how much time I have and what else i'm planning on doing videos on during that time. Thanks for watching.
In german woods it is perfect. I Served 4years in the german army and it was amazing how it works in the woods of germany
Please Brent, do a second part in fall early spring!
+SeraphinoII Well see
The Flecktarn worked better than I thought. But it did seem a little darker compared to the lighter green spring foliage. Especially when you hit shadowy areas. Still a pretty cool camo design. I almost wish the United States didn't phase out the old M81 Woodland, as it is such a classic and sexy looking camouflage pattern. I love it!
It is very often used by terrorist groups too :D .....
But you are right its a nice pattern :)
Can you do a vid on danish flectarn in spring? I love danish flecktarn
I feel like you would be more effective with cadpat? The flecktarn seems too dark for your environment, funny enough I live in Canada and feel in the early spring and fall seasons that flecktarn is a more effective camo up here. Camouflage is a funny thing to work with thinking one camo can work all year round is a bad way of thinking and I personally believe every region except a very few require multiple camo patterns to be effective depending on season. Anyways great video brother thanks for the upload.
I love flectarn I have several pieces u think when they are washed a few times the seem to mat down the reflectivity a bit a blends better I use camo soap made for camo.
Just bought a Flectarn complete set and I hope it works well in central-northern part of Europe. Arguably, Netherlands has similar pattern that I like better (more green and shades of green), but those are impossible to get where I live. But check them out - dutch fractal pattern.
it works very well
do you think this camo would be good for Newengland area like Massachusetts
or would you recommended another camo
Would you recommend this camo for eastern U.S? (Pennsylvania to be specific) I have multicam now but I'm looking for more of a spring/summer camo to go along
Deciduous woods mostly?
Mossy Oak Obsession would work for summer.
KMLK would probably too.
Lazerous I would our A-TACS
Cool videos. Tried to spot you, but failed. After all the testing, what's your favorite camouflage? (I know it depends on the environment, but still curious).
I’m a big fan of the tiger stripe and A-TACs patterns.
I don't know if it's just because of my Colour Perception Deficiency, but he stood out in every single one of these scenes that he wasn't hiding behind a bush and completely out of site.
I am a huge fan of the flecktarn pattern I just bought a surplus uniform looking forward to play airsoft in it
In many appalachain areas, the Flecktarn is great. Many of these areas have dense, darker forests.
Our SpecOps are now getting dressed in the new developed MultiTarn. It´s the Flecktarn pattern colored in tones approx like Multicam.
This would be a great pattern for the northern US. Specifically in the coniferous forest regions.
Pretty good but as other people stated it's too dark of a pattern for this time of year. It works great in leaf litter, though; I'd love to see it in an Autumn application.
I can only hear the voice over and the forest, wow it must be very effective.