This is where MARPAT really shines, in spring it's way too dark and you look too dark and stand out like a tree against all the green. But when everything dies and it's all brown and light browns, you blend in extremely well
JONATHan CaPiChanO They did not come up with it, the Canadians came up with it, it was just modified for the Marines. As for they get the least money. Marine Corps $40.6 billion 4%Total Budget taken allotted from Department of Navy Remember the Navy pays for a lot of what they do. Plus they are a much smaller fighting force.
+Alex Cardosa (Kiljoy616) if we wanna get real technical here Americans used a very similar pattern in Europe starting in the late 70's. links camopedia.org/images/8/8c/Usa42.jpg www.uniteddynamics.com/dualtex/ www.militarytrader.com/military-vehicles-news/dual_texture_gradient_camouflage_pattern
+Alex Cardosa (Kiljoy616) You are correct and no the US did not have it first ShadowDog digital pattern was invented in Canada. Yeah OMG the americans are the best for a minute, holy shit the world should fall apart. Conceed and move on man.
pretty impressive camo pattern, i think its becoming a favorite of mine, Your video series is 'the' best camo reference source/testing on the internet, keep up the good work,
It's just amazing to me how Marpat looks green in the spring/summer or in a coniferous forest, yet looks brown in the fall/winter in deciduous forests. It's amazing. It almost looks as brown at the Austrian zeltbahn pattern in this environment. edited to add. Wow, it even blends in with a hard wood tree trunk which has grey bark at 7:34.
I love Marpat, where I'm at the woodland blends well most of the year, the desert blends surprisingly well in the fall...which surprised me. Awesome video bro!
Wow that is a really effective pattern. In the first video I didn't think it was very good but seeing it in the fall it is way better. This is the first one of these videos where I actually had no idea where you where for the majority of the shots.
Charles AOR2/CADPAT/MC Tropic for spring, Woodland/MARPAT for the fall. Multicam is good all around, but doesn’t always excel at specific times and places.
Very effective camo pattern.....really enjoyed trying to locate your position at the start of each clip before you moved....outstanding job troop.....keep up the good work...
As soon as I saw the camo I loved it. Looked like the perfect brownish to green ratio! I can usually spot say 8/10 of the test with other camos but this one by far wins.
All these years later and this is still one of the best camo patterns. Maybe AOR2 in the early spring and multicam in winter when everything dies. But Woodland MARPAT blends well pretty much all year round in my ao.
Since most of the airsoft and paintball games i go to are in the fall, i find this camo great with some od green and coyote brown pouches on my gear. Really matches the darker/dead vegetation in my area
Brent. I can't stress enough about how much I love your videos. I recently watched your videos about hunting camo patterns. Long story short, you should really check out Predator camo and ASAT camo. Both patterns really hone in on versatility and shredding the human outline. If you want to check out the Predator patterns you should definitely look at fall grey, brown deception, and 3-D deception.
definately far more effective in the fall colours...great video...not sure if you can get your hands on some but interested to see how cadpat does with the green foliage from your first video.
Yes, Marpat is very good for European forests. But I also like Flecktarn, because it has also dark colors: medium grey, dark green, brown and black. And only 11 % light green.
I've noticed that with a number of your tests, the pattern tend to work the best during fall-winter, even woodland. I've comment on your second part of the M81 Woodland effectiveness test on how it performed better in that part than the first. Are most woodland patterns designed for the fall-winter seasons? Do most fighting take place during fall and winter? Or is the idea behind it is that soldiers and marines are more meant to take cover and hide behind trees and such, which are often dark and brown than to be hiding behind a heavily vegetated spot?
I think the reason most woodland camouflages seem overly dark is because they expect you to try and get deep into the foliage where darker greens and brown background of the dirt are. And using nature to camouflage yourself more than your uniform. Brent says he wants to show off the camouflage to demonstrate effectiveness without having to completely conceal himself in bushes. cronodon.com/images/woodland_2.jpg Take this picture for example, imagine you're wearing Woodland MARPAT. Where would you hide ignoring the trees? Yeah, that shady bush over there. Get low and you'll blend right in.
I read someone else's response on another video that seemed to answer this question. The human eye can easily distinguish between several different shades of green whereas all browns tend to blend for us. That's why he's easier to spot in the spring videos even if the color he's wearing is only slightly off while in the fall videos it's nearly impossible (this marpat video being a good example).
Because M81 woodland and MARPAT weren't designed with Texas' vegetation in mind. For example, when the military were using M81 woodland it was the cold war so they wore camo that fit in with European woodlands as that's where they believed most of the fighting would take place, it wasn't meant as a defensive camo for staying in the US so that's why it's generally too dark for our vegetation.
@@MALICEM12 Not exactly, M81 Woodland was an updated version of the ERDL pattern used in Vietnam. The lime green color was replaced by light brown/ tan and the pattern was enlarged by 60 %. Here is a video of M81 development: th-cam.com/video/0aHxhnI2-_w/w-d-xo.html The US military used M81 in the tropics (Grenada and Panama wars), South Korea and Germany. So M81 was used everywhere except the deserts of the middle east of course. I am from Western Europe and the forests are the same as the Texas forest above.
I’ve never seen someone wear a boonie and not look like a goober. You pull it off so well, you look like a moto poster Marine. Had Poolee flashbacks of beating off in the recruiters supply room tryna steal posters 😂
I'll be honest I have watched a lot of your camo vids and Marpat and the Tiger stripes seem to me most effective. I wore Marpat when it came out when I was in. I just never really seen it from this prospective.
Travis KnifeLover I'm definitely a fan of both those patterns, in fact what started this whole series was my original video about tiger stripe. I wanted to do a video on how effective tiger stripe and it just spawned into me doing all these videos about other patterns.
If I'm not mistaken the Marine Corps tested both patterns when they were doing the trials. I remember 2\1 was the first battalion to get Marpat. They were wearing the gaiters with black boots it looked pretty good.
Believe it or not. The Corps had developed a Tiger Stripe pattern in Marpat colors and it got amazing feed back but just like the Army with thier ACU/UCP someone in a high place thought it'd be better if it was digital. m.th-cam.com/video/AalHx0HBf3g/w-d-xo.html The History of: The US Marine Corps MARPAT ... - TH-cam
I swear by marpat. This stuff is just so hard to see. Especially when you get them dirty. If if the old woodlands weren't so prevelent I would get some more. My old cami's I never got rid of.
I think the opposite; it works better against digital cameras but is pretty poor against the human eye. At least, it doesn't work worth a damn in Indiana.
The problem I saw with MARPAT is when it gets wet it becomes extra dark, more so prevalent in a newer set. So when Marines are doing Marine things sweating their balls off these things make you stick out pretty badly. These things work a lot better when they start to fade a little in my opinion based on my experiences. BTW Semper Fi devil! Really enjoying the camouflage videos, and with the shooting towards the camera really drives the effectiveness of the camo home. Thanks!
The issue with even the much hated Army ACU is that people dont take into account is that these patterns were developed to be effective at hundreds of meters/yards where engagements were actually occurring. I've seen the hated ACU at 300 yards against both a desert and foliage background and they worked at that distance. At ten yards away where most defense journalists were taking photos to churn up outrage, they were understandably garbage. As would be the man jammies and flip flops the enemy was wearing. They rarely ever let us get that close for a reason. Maybe Ukraine is different but we were 200-300 meters out during most engagements and even 'shitty camo' patterns made a difference.
Got to do some Multicam Tropic next, even though its no longer summer time, still would good to see its effectiveness in the autumn. Great vid. Cheers.
chazbox1987 Too expensive man, once its been out for awhile and the prices on it come down I might snatch it up. Right now though, forget about it, i'm not speeding that kind of money on it.
marpat is very effective the reason being is that the marines didnt stupidly try to have a one patern fits all like the army did with ucp. they have a woodland marpat and a desert marpat each are very good at what theyre intended for
it does get darker in the shadows. you are definitely silhouetted in shadows and with no or little cover. stay in cover it works really well, for example at 3:25 and 3:26. I am a little disappointed in the camo . great vid.
why are the USMC using tan carriers with the Woodland and desert marpat? is it a cost saving measure? does having the tan vest affect your camoflauge as much when in a woodland environment?
tons of options, but in my humble opinion, marpat is tough to beat. semper fi. fyi, it works really well in the piney woodlands of long island, with the reddish hues of pine needles, etc.
Too dark. Is interesting to the Amazon, but not to theaters of temperate or tropic operations or thickened forests like you have there. I found you every time and even when i had doubts they were between 2 spots, but then i chose the best spot in relation to the trail and you were there. Good camo, but not very good camo. Fulfills the mission. Ps.: i was DM in Brazilian Army, so i know what to look. Pps .: we also need a new pattern, ours is still dark too. From my chair the solution is to break the silhouette on the shoulders, pelvis and head. It was these parties that denounced him. Good vid. Selva!
Only way to break the silhouette is to stop repeating the pattern from head to toe; a good pattern needs open space to allow the eye to pass over it and digital camo has none. Open space allows the eye to focus on the mimicry added to the pattern, essentially eliminating the human outline; military patterns use neither, resulting in blocky human shapes being identified. Eventually, they'll learn and start copying what hunting patterns have done for the last few decades to great success.
It seems like the woodland type camos work exceptionally well when there is a bit more brown and lighter fall colors. The bright summer vegetation environment maybe slightly less so
I love the desert MARPAT but I think they used too much black in this camouflage. I wish that they used a dark coyote tan color for all of it. What do you think Brent0331?
1. Shot that area, but was very unsure it was actually you. When you moved, I doubted if I'd have hit the right spot of the blotch I thought was you 2. Was suspicious of the spot and focusing on it, but didn't begin to draw until you moved 3. Would have shot the dark patch in front of you 4. Would have shot right beneath you 5. Missed you completely 6. Missed you completely 7. Would have shot beneath you 8. Would have shot in front of you 9. Would have shot at the dark patch to your right side 10. Saw you right away, only briefly unsure 11. Missed you completely 12. Saw that patch right away, but would have aimed above you 13. Saw you about halfway through, was slightly unsure tho 14. Missed you completely. That patch kept drawing attention, but you blended right it 15. Spotted you right away. Easy one tho, good idea to not give it much time This pattern pwned me, makes it a top contender for what I'll pick lol. Good test, as always
Great Video, but I have one question in your opinion What color gear goes best with this camo pattern, for example digital Marpat with coyote tan carrier, pouches, etc
In part II (environment with predominance of browns) Marpat is more effective, the USMC did a good job, not like the UCP. But, I prefer M81 Woodland pattern and if it's washed better.
Great video as always, and the pattern is very effective, but I agree with you on your favorites about the Tiger Stripe and the Rhodesian Camo Pattern are the most effective. I still love Tiger Stripe. Marpat works really good, but then again you make it work in your favor and there are times you blend in well into the environment, but then others the shadows are not in your favor. I would definitely say that to make camo work don't walk around with a target indicator black weapon only something like the patterns you do on your weapons to make be the best it can for you.
very hit or miss. A couple of the prones were good, one time standing with your back turned was good, and one laying almost completely behind things was good at 10:00 (I would say largely because of the resolution). Most of these positions you were an eye magnet though. I guess it depends on the person, or I might just be tripping. Knowing there is someone hiding in the shot is definitely a huge factor though
I’d love to see it used against the AOR2 (which I’m still getting used to it being called since we Sailors just say NWU III). I have a feeling the MARPAT would do better in darker, more shadowed terrain but it would be interesting.
Getting a full set of marpat gear on army surplus. I also saw some urban tiger stripe that looked like it would be really effective, not sure if you have an urban tiger stripe video. I just can't find a good tac vest in marpat, or any good digital design outside of ACU, which sucks... the only ones I've found are shitty airsoft knock-offs.
Marpat learned woodlands mistake of the big black blotches the only thing I wish the marine corps did was make a multicam pattern or in fact keep the old wood land pattern but make the blotches smaller.
It doesn’t matter what camo you wear, within reason. The best camo os to be still. I guarantee you that I could wear solids and you’d never see a person in light brush 20 yards from you if you weren’t looking really hard. It’s hard to emphasize the importance of being completely still.
great videos. looks like it's a close tie for marpat & woodland in fall or a semi arid forest like the semi-dryer Sierras in California What's your opinion? Would love to see you do same for vehicle camo as well
You make great videos, sir. Is there any of yours where you cover how to do your face paint? I would like to know if there is a formula or a pattern you recommend. Thank you for your time.
Bill P There is a method to painting your face, I talk about it in this video about half of the way through it. Camouflaging yourself, individual gear and equipment
Thanks man for responding and that helped me. Also thank you for your service to this country,I have a cousin who was a Marine sniper,oh and I have one more question sorry for bothering you. I was just curious what made you decide to join the Marine Corps I like asking vets this or men who are still in the armed forces.
Navy SEAL 101 There's a lot of comradely amongst the Marine Corps, even after you get out. Because its the smallest branch of the U.S. military there is a stronger tighter bond I think. Just a small example, but start looking at the back of vehicles as you drive down the road. I bet you see more Marine Corps stickers on vehicles than you do all the other branches combined, despite the fact that we have only a small fraction of the personnel that the other branches do.
It doesn't matter for deer hunting, I had to wear bright orange when deer hunting (with gun) and they don't really see it. It's movement, and ESPECIALLY smell are what you have to worry about for deer.
Nah, smell is a myth; I go into the woods after a shower wearing deodorant and cologne and can even smoke a little cannabis and deer don't notice a thing; as long as you have a good pattern (Realtree, TrueTimber, Mossy Oak, etc.), they'll come within ten feet of you without noticing you're there. Movement and sound are the two biggest factors that scare off deer, especially sound. I couldn't tell you how many times I've been within spear distance of a deer with good camo.
Slapnuts138 Can't really say brother, I look at the environment and pick the pattern I feel will be most effective in it. Some of my personal favorites though are tiger stripe and the Rhodesian pattern.
the Marine Corps copyrighted their pattern and made it so the other branches couldn't use it, that's why the army couldn't use it. still though, ucp was a terrible choice, old woodland and 3 color desert would be better than ucp
Mason Adler but it's not the job of any branch of our military to to patent anything there job is for defense and protection of our country nothing more or less!
Marines hold themselves apart from the rest of the NAVY and from Army and Air Force soldiers; all of the branches do, but especially the Marines. They "have to be" different.
This is where MARPAT really shines, in spring it's way too dark and you look too dark and stand out like a tree against all the green. But when everything dies and it's all brown and light browns, you blend in extremely well
Faded woodland marpat works pretty well in spring.
It really is amazing what the Marines have come up with when they receive the smallest funds out of all the major branches.
Well what I like is with their vehicles is that they still make amphibious and fording a priority.
JONATHan CaPiChanO They did not come up with it, the Canadians came up with it, it was just modified for the Marines. As for they get the least money. Marine Corps $40.6 billion 4%Total Budget taken allotted from Department of Navy
Remember the Navy pays for a lot of what they do. Plus they are a much smaller fighting force.
+Alex Cardosa (Kiljoy616) if we wanna get real technical here Americans used a very similar pattern in Europe starting in the late 70's.
links
camopedia.org/images/8/8c/Usa42.jpg
www.uniteddynamics.com/dualtex/
www.militarytrader.com/military-vehicles-news/dual_texture_gradient_camouflage_pattern
Americans were first
+Alex Cardosa (Kiljoy616) You are correct and no the US did not have it first ShadowDog digital pattern was invented in Canada. Yeah OMG the americans are the best for a minute, holy shit the world should fall apart. Conceed and move on man.
pretty impressive camo pattern,
i think its becoming a favorite of mine,
Your video series is 'the' best camo reference source/testing on the internet,
keep up the good work,
neil castell Thanks brother.
neil castell MARPAT is my choice, Woodland 2nd for my AO. I need to get some marpat bdu's.
***** Have you done testing on Flecktern (german) yet?
Yes
It's just amazing to me how Marpat looks green in the spring/summer or in a coniferous forest, yet looks brown in the fall/winter in deciduous forests. It's amazing. It almost looks as brown at the Austrian zeltbahn pattern in this environment.
edited to add.
Wow, it even blends in with a hard wood tree trunk which has grey bark at 7:34.
Pretty easy to design a camo pattern- take 3 pic of an environment, take colors from where you would be in that environment, and blend
works well Brent, thank you again for your experiments. they are excellent. MARPAT is still one of the best patterns out there. UH RAH
David Louis I concur, thanks for watching.
once again MARPAT woodland takes high honours. I've seen it reign supreme in almost all tests I've witnessed.
Government: "Work from home."
Marines:
I love Marpat, where I'm at the woodland blends well most of the year, the desert blends surprisingly well in the fall...which surprised me. Awesome video bro!
Wow that is a really effective pattern. In the first video I didn't think it was very good but seeing it in the fall it is way better. This is the first one of these videos where I actually had no idea where you where for the majority of the shots.
Charles AOR2/CADPAT/MC Tropic for spring, Woodland/MARPAT for the fall. Multicam is good all around, but doesn’t always excel at specific times and places.
Man I love Marpat! If you're in the weeds and go still, especially prone, you will freakin' disappear.
My favorite cammo and one of the best ever made.
Very effective camo pattern.....really enjoyed trying to locate your position at the start of each clip before you moved....outstanding job troop.....keep up the good work...
+Marcus Tankersley Thanks
That's amazing how effective it is! A lot more so than I was expecting.
Thats a damn effective pattern
Much better in the fall. Too dark for the spring. Nice camo job on the rifle!
Looking for an army ACU video.
Dont even bother with the acu's theyre long gone now, good riddance.
It sucks ass that's ACU for you jeez man
As soon as I saw the camo I loved it. Looked like the perfect brownish to green ratio! I can usually spot say 8/10 of the test with other camos but this one by far wins.
All these years later and this is still one of the best camo patterns. Maybe AOR2 in the early spring and multicam in winter when everything dies. But Woodland MARPAT blends well pretty much all year round in my ao.
Ive been using Marpat in BC Canada,for hunting deer in the fall for years,Ive had mulies look right through me!
i typically dont like wearing current issue patterns, because i might be mistaken for a service member, but that camo just does such a good job.....
I'd rather just wear a hunting pattern and not be seen at all XD
Thanks for sharing the marpat is the last set i need to finish my U.S. GWOT collection .
Thanks for sharing. ❤
This and m81 are both terrific , and to think they work even better when you add foliage and a face veil or togs . Great stuff
Since most of the airsoft and paintball games i go to are in the fall, i find this camo great with some od green and coyote brown pouches on my gear. Really matches the darker/dead vegetation in my area
This is awesome, it definitely works much much better in the later seasons. but when it works, it really works.
Brent. I can't stress enough about how much I love your videos. I recently watched your videos about hunting camo patterns. Long story short, you should really check out Predator camo and ASAT camo. Both patterns really hone in on versatility and shredding the human outline. If you want to check out the Predator patterns you should definitely look at fall grey, brown deception, and 3-D deception.
Thanks for watching commenting brother. I generally stick to the military patterns. Well see what the future holds.
definately far more effective in the fall colours...great video...not sure if you can get your hands on some but interested to see how cadpat does with the green foliage from your first video.
i second that idea
MARPAT MARPAT MAPAT!!! the best camo for European forests!
Dabox
European and American forests are just about the same really
Yes, Marpat is very good for European forests. But I also like Flecktarn, because it has also dark colors: medium grey, dark green, brown and black. And only 11 % light green.
In here Marpat is much better than in part 1!
The coolest looking forest camo evah!
I've noticed that with a number of your tests, the pattern tend to work the best during fall-winter, even woodland. I've comment on your second part of the M81 Woodland effectiveness test on how it performed better in that part than the first.
Are most woodland patterns designed for the fall-winter seasons? Do most fighting take place during fall and winter? Or is the idea behind it is that soldiers and marines are more meant to take cover and hide behind trees and such, which are often dark and brown than to be hiding behind a heavily vegetated spot?
THIS MUST BE ANSWERED
I think the reason most woodland camouflages seem overly dark is because they expect you to try and get deep into the foliage where darker greens and brown background of the dirt are. And using nature to camouflage yourself more than your uniform. Brent says he wants to show off the camouflage to demonstrate effectiveness without having to completely conceal himself in bushes.
cronodon.com/images/woodland_2.jpg
Take this picture for example, imagine you're wearing Woodland MARPAT. Where would you hide ignoring the trees? Yeah, that shady bush over there. Get low and you'll blend right in.
I read someone else's response on another video that seemed to answer this question. The human eye can easily distinguish between several different shades of green whereas all browns tend to blend for us. That's why he's easier to spot in the spring videos even if the color he's wearing is only slightly off while in the fall videos it's nearly impossible (this marpat video being a good example).
Because M81 woodland and MARPAT weren't designed with Texas' vegetation in mind. For example, when the military were using M81 woodland it was the cold war so they wore camo that fit in with European woodlands as that's where they believed most of the fighting would take place, it wasn't meant as a defensive camo for staying in the US so that's why it's generally too dark for our vegetation.
@@MALICEM12 Not exactly, M81 Woodland was an updated version of the ERDL pattern used in Vietnam. The lime green color was replaced by light brown/ tan and the pattern was enlarged by 60 %. Here is a video of M81 development: th-cam.com/video/0aHxhnI2-_w/w-d-xo.html
The US military used M81 in the tropics (Grenada and Panama wars), South Korea and Germany. So M81 was used everywhere except the deserts of the middle east of course. I am from Western Europe and the forests are the same as the Texas forest above.
The kids and I have great fun trying to spot you. Enjoy the vids. Thanks.
I’ve never seen someone wear a boonie and not look like a goober. You pull it off so well, you look like a moto poster Marine.
Had Poolee flashbacks of beating off in the recruiters supply room tryna steal posters 😂
This "Where is Brent0331" game is very addictive. Very cool video, many thanks.
+Boshen Yu Thanks
Massive improvement in concealment from the fall compared to spring time.
I'll be honest I have watched a lot of your camo vids and Marpat and the Tiger stripes seem to me most effective. I wore Marpat when it came out when I was in. I just never really seen it from this prospective.
Travis KnifeLover I'm definitely a fan of both those patterns, in fact what started this whole series was my original video about tiger stripe. I wanted to do a video on how effective tiger stripe and it just spawned into me doing all these videos about other patterns.
If I'm not mistaken the Marine Corps tested both patterns when they were doing the trials. I remember 2\1 was the first battalion to get Marpat. They were wearing the gaiters with black boots it looked pretty good.
Yeah, I've seen a picture of the tiger stripe pattern that was tested along side of Marpat, it looked pretty good.
***** Can't wait for the part II of the Original Vietnam Tiger Stripe. I love it Brent.
Believe it or not. The Corps had developed a Tiger Stripe pattern in Marpat colors and it got amazing feed back but just like the Army with thier ACU/UCP someone in a high place thought it'd be better if it was digital.
m.th-cam.com/video/AalHx0HBf3g/w-d-xo.html
The History of: The US Marine Corps MARPAT ... - TH-cam
Great video!
Best videos of camo. Thanks for showing them
Thanks for watching
I swear by marpat. This stuff is just so hard to see. Especially when you get them dirty. If if the old woodlands weren't so prevelent I would get some more.
My old cami's I never got rid of.
I have to say, you just changed my mind about Marpat! Seems to work great
Harbard Honestly, I don't think the video does the pattern justice. I think its a lot more effective in person than it appears in both my videos.
Yea it defiantly is better in person it's one of my favorites and mostly because it was my uniform hahaha. Rah!
I think the opposite; it works better against digital cameras but is pretty poor against the human eye. At least, it doesn't work worth a damn in Indiana.
This time the green in the MARPAT is not so bright looking.
The problem I saw with MARPAT is when it gets wet it becomes extra dark, more so prevalent in a newer set. So when Marines are doing Marine things sweating their balls off these things make you stick out pretty badly. These things work a lot better when they start to fade a little in my opinion based on my experiences.
BTW Semper Fi devil! Really enjoying the camouflage videos, and with the shooting towards the camera really drives the effectiveness of the camo home. Thanks!
Appreciate the input brother.
I'm sure with all your experiences you've seen how dark that woodland gets when its wet as well.
If they'd only take the effort to print military patterns onto waterproof jackets/coats like hunting patterns do, weather it wouldn't be a problem.
The issue with even the much hated Army ACU is that people dont take into account is that these patterns were developed to be effective at hundreds of meters/yards where engagements were actually occurring. I've seen the hated ACU at 300 yards against both a desert and foliage background and they worked at that distance. At ten yards away where most defense journalists were taking photos to churn up outrage, they were understandably garbage. As would be the man jammies and flip flops the enemy was wearing. They rarely ever let us get that close for a reason.
Maybe Ukraine is different but we were 200-300 meters out during most engagements and even 'shitty camo' patterns made a difference.
Superb design, definitely difficult to spot, almost 100% blend accuracy.
Good stuff Gunny!
Jarhead6 Thanks brother.
Yeah , it works pretty dam well! Thank you marine.
Got to do some Multicam Tropic next, even though its no longer summer time, still would good to see its effectiveness in the autumn. Great vid. Cheers.
chazbox1987 Too expensive man, once its been out for awhile and the prices on it come down I might snatch it up. Right now though, forget about it, i'm not speeding that kind of money on it.
All I have to say is , BADASS!
MARPAT is my choice for fall season.
marpat is very effective the reason being is that the marines didnt stupidly try to have a one patern fits all like the army did with ucp. they have a woodland marpat and a desert marpat each are very good at what theyre intended for
it does get darker in the shadows. you are definitely silhouetted in shadows and with no or little cover. stay in cover it works really well, for example at 3:25 and 3:26. I am a little disappointed in the camo . great vid.
Much better now that there is some browns in the environment. Part I was just too noticeable, but it performs much better in this part
Player spawned in at 2:20 😂
This is pretty impressive in the fall, I wonder how it would do up here in the NE U.S. this time of year.
why are the USMC using tan carriers with the Woodland and desert marpat? is it a cost saving measure?
does having the tan vest affect your camoflauge as much when in a woodland environment?
tons of options, but in my humble opinion, marpat is tough to beat. semper fi. fyi, it works really well in the piney woodlands of long island, with the reddish hues of pine needles, etc.
I'm probably going to buy some of this camo it seems to work well. Keep up the great vids man!
speakersmcgee thanks, glad I could help.
Hey Brent, now that it's fall you should test the orange and brown version off waffen ss oakleaf.
Too dark.
Is interesting to the Amazon, but not to theaters of temperate or tropic operations or thickened forests like you have there. I found you every time and even when i had doubts they were between 2 spots, but then i chose the best spot in relation to the trail and you were there. Good camo, but not very good camo. Fulfills the mission.
Ps.: i was DM in Brazilian Army, so i know what to look.
Pps .: we also need a new pattern, ours is still dark too. From my chair the solution is to break the silhouette on the shoulders, pelvis and head. It was these parties that denounced him.
Good vid. Selva!
Only way to break the silhouette is to stop repeating the pattern from head to toe; a good pattern needs open space to allow the eye to pass over it and digital camo has none. Open space allows the eye to focus on the mimicry added to the pattern, essentially eliminating the human outline; military patterns use neither, resulting in blocky human shapes being identified. Eventually, they'll learn and start copying what hunting patterns have done for the last few decades to great success.
It seems like the woodland type camos work exceptionally well when there is a bit more brown and lighter fall colors. The bright summer vegetation environment maybe slightly less so
I’d love to see marpat in the middle of winter
Simple yet very helpful. 👍
Man, just look at that uniform! Fuckin badass!
It would be great to redo some videos with 1080 quality?
Just like the woodland pattern, this pattern is good going into the fall season. I think marpat is slightly better than woodland.
Wow that's effective
Wow, this is a good competitor for the Pencott Greenzone
I know it has been a long time since you made this video, but I’d like to see if MARPAT is as effective in the dead of winter with no greenery around.
I love the desert MARPAT but I think they used too much black in this camouflage. I wish that they used a dark coyote tan color for all of it. What do you think Brent0331?
1. Shot that area, but was very unsure it was actually you. When you moved, I doubted if I'd have hit the right spot of the blotch I thought was you
2. Was suspicious of the spot and focusing on it, but didn't begin to draw until you moved
3. Would have shot the dark patch in front of you
4. Would have shot right beneath you
5. Missed you completely
6. Missed you completely
7. Would have shot beneath you
8. Would have shot in front of you
9. Would have shot at the dark patch to your right side
10. Saw you right away, only briefly unsure
11. Missed you completely
12. Saw that patch right away, but would have aimed above you
13. Saw you about halfway through, was slightly unsure tho
14. Missed you completely. That patch kept drawing attention, but you blended right it
15. Spotted you right away. Easy one tho, good idea to not give it much time
This pattern pwned me, makes it a top contender for what I'll pick lol. Good test, as always
Great Video, but I have one question in your opinion What color gear goes best with this camo pattern, for example digital Marpat with coyote tan carrier, pouches, etc
the best summer camo!
In part II (environment with predominance of browns) Marpat is more effective, the USMC did a good job, not like the UCP. But, I prefer M81 Woodland pattern and if it's washed better.
Performance was comparable to M81 in this season. (Lots of browns)
Great video as always, and the pattern is very effective, but I agree with you on your favorites about the Tiger Stripe and the Rhodesian Camo Pattern are the most effective. I still love Tiger Stripe. Marpat works really good, but then again you make it work in your favor and there are times you blend in well into the environment, but then others the shadows are not in your favor. I would definitely say that to make camo work don't walk around with a target indicator black weapon only something like the patterns you do on your weapons to make be the best it can for you.
***** You're going to love my all black M16 in my Woodland PART II video, should be uploaded sometime soon.
***** Great will keep an eye out for it and in the video it as well.
very hit or miss. A couple of the prones were good, one time standing with your back turned was good, and one laying almost completely behind things was good at 10:00 (I would say largely because of the resolution). Most of these positions you were an eye magnet though. I guess it depends on the person, or I might just be tripping. Knowing there is someone hiding in the shot is definitely a huge factor though
I’d love to see it used against the AOR2 (which I’m still getting used to it being called since we Sailors just say NWU III). I have a feeling the MARPAT would do better in darker, more shadowed terrain but it would be interesting.
Nice video! I'm curious to see Rothco's city digital in a winter environment if you could make that happen
Not too great in other seasons, but right then with that mix of colors it does its job.
damn these videos are wild. btw saw your videos from officer gregg from the taofledermaus channel liking you video on the acss reticle
Awesome man, what video of his does he reference mine? Thanks for watching.
the new cadpat seems quite similar to this one
good videos! keep up with the good work! 🇺🇸
Thanks brother.
Brent, sir. Salute. This pattern works great in that environment. Would it work in Arizona? If not, what is your recommendation for Arizona?
Getting a full set of marpat gear on army surplus. I also saw some urban tiger stripe that looked like it would be really effective, not sure if you have an urban tiger stripe video. I just can't find a good tac vest in marpat, or any good digital design outside of ACU, which sucks... the only ones I've found are shitty airsoft knock-offs.
I was experimenting with commercial MARPAT here in Serbia and I find out it’s too dark for local environment
Great video and as usual Marpat performed beautifully however I thought the rifle you used was a bit too tan for that pattern or environment
Marpat learned woodlands mistake of the big black blotches the only thing I wish the marine corps did was make a multicam pattern or in fact keep the old wood land pattern but make the blotches smaller.
It doesn’t matter what camo you wear, within reason. The best camo os to be still. I guarantee you that I could wear solids and you’d never see a person in light brush 20 yards from you if you weren’t looking really hard. It’s hard to emphasize the importance of being completely still.
WOW! so effective.
great videos. looks like it's a close tie for marpat & woodland in fall or a semi arid forest like the semi-dryer Sierras in California What's your opinion? Would love to see you do same for vehicle camo as well
Hey Brent, you reckon you could check out DPCU (Auscam)? Thanks, I think it is really effective in very vegetated areas!
Mr. SirKing If I come across it I will for sure, problem is I haven't really found it here at a good price in the states yet.
Awesome! Thanks for looking mate, im sure you'd love it! Thanks again!
You make great videos, sir. Is there any of yours where you cover how to do your face paint? I would like to know if there is a formula or a pattern you recommend. Thank you for your time.
Bill P There is a method to painting your face, I talk about it in this video about half of the way through it. Camouflaging yourself, individual gear and equipment
Thank you, sir. Great info as always.
Hey Brent I have a question since your in the marine corps do you prefer a floppy Boonie hat or stiff brimmed Boonie hat.
Navy SEAL 101 I generally crunch/fold mine up so that it doesn't have that still perfect ring brim.
The last ship comes on tnt Sunday's it's really cool hope you watch it and enjoy
What do you think about them navy marpat and open deep blue seas ?? Do navy seals use them to get right under oposing enemy forces ?
Thanks man for responding and that helped me. Also thank you for your service to this country,I have a cousin who was a Marine sniper,oh and I have one more question sorry for bothering you. I was just curious what made you decide to join the Marine Corps I like asking vets this or men who are still in the armed forces.
Navy SEAL 101 There's a lot of comradely amongst the Marine Corps, even after you get out. Because its the smallest branch of the U.S. military there is a stronger tighter bond I think. Just a small example, but start looking at the back of vehicles as you drive down the road. I bet you see more Marine Corps stickers on vehicles than you do all the other branches combined, despite the fact that we have only a small fraction of the personnel that the other branches do.
MARPAT is king.
Anyone ever used this stuff for deer hunting. I'm thinking about picking up a couple sets so I can have them for dual purpose.
It doesn't matter for deer hunting, I had to wear bright orange when deer hunting (with gun) and they don't really see it. It's movement, and ESPECIALLY smell are what you have to worry about for deer.
Nah, smell is a myth; I go into the woods after a shower wearing deodorant and cologne and can even smoke a little cannabis and deer don't notice a thing; as long as you have a good pattern (Realtree, TrueTimber, Mossy Oak, etc.), they'll come within ten feet of you without noticing you're there. Movement and sound are the two biggest factors that scare off deer, especially sound. I couldn't tell you how many times I've been within spear distance of a deer with good camo.
In you opinion, what is your favorite pattern and why?
Slapnuts138 Can't really say brother, I look at the environment and pick the pattern I feel will be most effective in it. Some of my personal favorites though are tiger stripe and the Rhodesian pattern.
Is it better than m81 woodland or OCP?
MARPAT is pretty effective, makes one wonder why the Army developed the UCP when they had MARPAT available.
the Marine Corps copyrighted their pattern and made it so the other branches couldn't use it, that's why the army couldn't use it.
still though, ucp was a terrible choice, old woodland and 3 color desert would be better than ucp
Mason Adler On the bright side the new Army camouflage is looking great.
Mason Adler but it's not the job of any branch of our military to to patent anything there job is for defense and protection of our country nothing more or less!
Marines hold themselves apart from the rest of the NAVY and from Army and Air Force soldiers; all of the branches do, but especially the Marines. They "have to be" different.
Thanks! Thanks!! Thanks!!!
Romario1975 Thanks for watching brother.