Highly recommend his books, its just amazing this correct exegetical interpretation DeMar uses, & btw lays out meticulously, has not been widely excepted, as when understood scripture comes together wonderfully. It was not written to us although for us & all to apply to our lives. The historical, textual & intended audience gets overlooked & too often not even considered. The wrongly applied eisegesis takes away from the power of the gospel, as Jesus Christ & His finished work has to be glorified
Amen. Dispensationalism really jacks up The Bible and paints the wrong picture. Once you get the right perspective it makes all the difference to your outlook and walk with Jesus.
@@AlmostMonumental27 ohhh brother the spell check police, take it up w/ mine & millions of other people phones, crab. But please tell me your rightly used "exegesis" claim, what's a problem for you, Exegetical or Eisegesis?? Both correctly used. Btw this was 3 yrs ago but great investigation, is this your thing?
@GaryDeMar On Matt 24:15 Jesus mentions the "abomination desolation" as a future event. Yet this event had a partial fulfillment on 168BC, when Jesus spoke this event had already occured. Perhaps the event Jesus spoke of shall occur after 70AD?
There was an abomination that causes desolation such as Daniel the prophet spoke of by Antiochus Epiphanes, hence the book of Macabees & Hanukkah, desecrating the temple by sacrificing a pig on the alter but also the one alike that Christ spoke of that occurred in 70 A.D w/ Titus & the Roman army entering & destroying the temple, as well all the abominations that were happening inside before the destruction by Jewish defenders, or at least I & many alike partial & full preterist as well as just exegetical eisegesis on the text lining up w/ the historical accounts, believe, as all Jesus prophesied reigned true
@@garrettredding9850 the secert rapture is what John Darby taught. It's also the view put out in the left behind films. The historic protestant view has been though that the rapture means and is an image of a victorious king returning to his land and the people come out to celebrate and join thr parade into the city. So the historic view of the rapture is that it is no more secret than the return of Jesus because it takes place at the same time for this purpose. Its not about escape like the secert rapture
DeMar asks "Where is the evidence for double fulfilment? Why not triple fulfilment?" I say the answer is in the fig tree. We are told in Matt 24 and the synoptics that the signs to look for are like the blossoming of the fig tree. Fig trees bear fruit twice each season - once at the beginning, and again at the end. The events described in Matthew 24 all took place in the cannibalistic frenzy that took hold of besieged Jerusalem in AD70, yet AD70 is but a shadow of the greater tribulation of the saints still to come. What remnant will have the faith to flee Babylon before she falls again?
@@randomdad1234 Nothing at all. The fig tree in Matt 21 is a physical fig tree, destroyed for not bearing fruit. The fig tree in Matt 24 is a parable of a fig tree destined to bear fruit.
I believe partial preterism leads to full preterism, the creeds and western Protestantism keeps the partial from going full board, the full really hold to 'sola scriptura ' I'm ready almost to be called a heretic.
Lol. Same here. For the longest time I had questions about bible prophecy’s about end times. And when asked they were either brushed off or explained away. But learning the history of 1st century and Gery demar, and Jonathan welton. Many things become clear. But yeh my family has a bit hard time hearing it, and some called it heresy.
David Chilton became a full preterist shortly before he died, and he was called a heretic. The classic treatment of FP is Russell's The Parousia, available online. RC Sproul wrote: "I believe that Russell's work is one of the most important treatments on Biblical eschatology that is available to the church today. The issues raised in this volume with respect to the time-frame references of the New Testament to the Parousia are vitally important not only for eschatology but for the future debate over the credibility of Sacred Scripture."
@@kylec8950 Mathew 24 cannot be divided and the analogy of faith teaches a a final second coming not a third . The judgment. The coming of the Lord. And the resurrection was supposed to happen within the generation of Christ and the Apostles which should of took place in AD70 in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple,.
I would ask the same question, I have issues with it now, I think Christianity might be a frayed movement. Full preterist try to save Jesus statement while partial preterist want to stay in orthodoxy, no doubt Jesus said all those things he explained in Mathew 24. Mark 13 and Luke 21 would happen before his generation passed away that for sure what he said, either it’s true or he is a false messiah
@@andrebias3534 But Partial Preterist, at least the way I understand it, do believe those things DID occur in that generation. That's not a problem at all! Christ said Jersualem would be destroyed and history tells us it was.
Highly recommend his books, its just amazing this correct exegetical interpretation DeMar uses, & btw lays out meticulously, has not been widely excepted, as when understood scripture comes together wonderfully. It was not written to us although for us & all to apply to our lives. The historical, textual & intended audience gets overlooked & too often not even considered. The wrongly applied eisegesis takes away from the power of the gospel, as Jesus Christ & His finished work has to be glorified
Amen. Dispensationalism really jacks up The Bible and paints the wrong picture. Once you get the right perspective it makes all the difference to your outlook and walk with Jesus.
Excepted??? Do you mean accepted? And it’s exegesis. Where did you study English?
@@AlmostMonumental27 ohhh brother the spell check police, take it up w/ mine & millions of other people phones, crab. But please tell me your rightly used "exegesis" claim, what's a problem for you, Exegetical or Eisegesis?? Both correctly used. Btw this was 3 yrs ago but great investigation, is this your thing?
@@AlmostMonumental27 it may help if you cry about it, just try it
@GaryDeMar On Matt 24:15 Jesus mentions the "abomination desolation" as a future event. Yet this event had a partial fulfillment on 168BC, when Jesus spoke this event had already occured. Perhaps the event Jesus spoke of shall occur after 70AD?
It was partial? It was total.
There was an abomination that causes desolation such as Daniel the prophet spoke of by Antiochus Epiphanes, hence the book of Macabees & Hanukkah, desecrating the temple by sacrificing a pig on the alter but also the one alike that Christ spoke of that occurred in 70 A.D w/ Titus & the Roman army entering & destroying the temple, as well all the abominations that were happening inside before the destruction by Jewish defenders, or at least I & many alike partial & full preterist as well as just exegetical eisegesis on the text lining up w/ the historical accounts, believe, as all Jesus prophesied reigned true
@@J-PLeigh8409 I doubt what is claimed with Antiochus
So can anyone tell me why Irenaeus talk of a rapture back in like 180 AD? Everyone says the rapture comes from John Darby in 1830s.
We are referring to the secert rapture as being new. Not the rapture in general.
@@barryvaughn916 Hey Barry thanks for the reply. Whats the difference between the secret rapture and the rapture in general?
@@garrettredding9850 the secert rapture is what John Darby taught. It's also the view put out in the left behind films. The historic protestant view has been though that the rapture means and is an image of a victorious king returning to his land and the people come out to celebrate and join thr parade into the city. So the historic view of the rapture is that it is no more secret than the return of Jesus because it takes place at the same time for this purpose. Its not about escape like the secert rapture
DeMar asks "Where is the evidence for double fulfilment? Why not triple fulfilment?" I say the answer is in the fig tree. We are told in Matt 24 and the synoptics that the signs to look for are like the blossoming of the fig tree. Fig trees bear fruit twice each season - once at the beginning, and again at the end. The events described in Matthew 24 all took place in the cannibalistic frenzy that took hold of besieged Jerusalem in AD70, yet AD70 is but a shadow of the greater tribulation of the saints still to come. What remnant will have the faith to flee Babylon before she falls again?
The fig tree died. It didn't blossom and it won't blossom anymore.
What does Matthew 21:19 tell us of that fig tree?
@@randomdad1234 Nothing at all. The fig tree in Matt 21 is a physical fig tree, destroyed for not bearing fruit. The fig tree in Matt 24 is a parable of a fig tree destined to bear fruit.
@@FozzyBBear WOW ‼️
2 fig trees & you propose no connection⁉️🤯
@@P.H.888 I explained the distinction with reference to the text. What connection do you propose?
I believe partial preterism leads to full preterism, the creeds and western Protestantism keeps the partial from going full board, the full really hold to 'sola scriptura ' I'm ready almost to be called a heretic.
Lol. Same here. For the longest time I had questions about bible prophecy’s about end times. And when asked they were either brushed off or explained away. But learning the history of 1st century and Gery demar, and Jonathan welton. Many things become clear. But yeh my family has a bit hard time hearing it, and some called it heresy.
David Chilton became a full preterist shortly before he died, and he was called a heretic. The classic treatment of FP is Russell's The Parousia, available online. RC Sproul wrote: "I believe that Russell's work is one of the most important treatments on Biblical eschatology that is available to the church today. The issues raised in this volume with respect to the time-frame references of the New Testament to the Parousia are vitally important not only for eschatology but for the future debate over the credibility of Sacred Scripture."
@@kylec8950 Mathew 24 cannot be divided and the analogy of faith teaches a a final second coming not a third . The judgment. The coming of the Lord. And the resurrection was supposed to happen within the generation of Christ and the Apostles which should of took place in AD70 in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple,.
I would ask the same question, I have issues with it now, I think Christianity might be a frayed movement. Full preterist try to save Jesus statement while partial preterist want to stay in orthodoxy, no doubt Jesus said all those things he explained in Mathew 24. Mark 13 and Luke 21 would happen before his generation passed away that for sure what he said, either it’s true or he is a false messiah
@@andrebias3534 But Partial Preterist, at least the way I understand it, do believe those things DID occur in that generation. That's not a problem at all! Christ said Jersualem would be destroyed and history tells us it was.