Is Any Of This Practical? $6 vs $70 Mini Brass Planes for Sharpening Pencils
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- Really I just wanted to do another pencil drawing, and it seemed like another good opportunity to dig a little deeper into the weird, wacky world of mini brass planes.
I made another video recently about the Høvel plane by Makers Cabinet which is $70 ( • How to Waste $70 on a ... ) and after that someone pointed out to me that I can get small brass planes from Harbor Freight for way cheaper, and so I thought they deserved a look after I railed on the Hovel for being so expensive. Also I wanted to go back to the expensive one since it became apparent to me that I had misused it slightly in the previous video and it needed another look.
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Hey Peter, brass is used in tools like planes and set squares because it's cheap and easily machined. It also doesn't rust, and is not magnetic.
Other steels and iron is harder machined and can rust or degrade over time... Stainless Steel is expensive and hard cut and machined...
Nice video as always, thanks for sharing 👍
Nice, thanks for the info!
If brass is cheap why is it $70 then
@@sulffojus1227 the same reason an iphone is expensive..... Because the manufacturer charges that much, and the consumer pays....
An iPhone probably costs 20 bucks max to make 😂
@@sulffojus1227 60% labor, 9$ handling and logistics
@@SteveTwoodturning I still don't get it because that sharpener doesn't have a lot of consumers
Hey Mr. Draws, I just want to comment once on ur vid... I never rly comment on a vid but I will now. I want u to know that u helped me in life, and now u think like whut? Whenever i'm anxious , whenever i feel bad , whenever i'm in a bad mood, I look at one of ur vids , I watched almost any vid of urs. Sorry for my bad english , i'm Belgian. I hope you keep making all these awesome calming videos so people like me have something to watch when feeling bad. Keep on being awesome and keep on making my life bareable! I wish you the best in life srsly!
Thank you for the comment
Stay strong, Lukas. Remember God loves you!
Keep strong, Lukas - es wird besser, es tut es wirklich. And keep watching Peter Draws, it really helps!
English is very good, especially for a second language!
I keep telling people he is the next Bob Ross
Respect for admitting mistakes :) I admire you for that
Peter, I'd love to see you branching into other assorted office supplies.
Also I've been getting into quillmaking! It's a lot of fun for not much effort. You're to soak the quicks of the feathers in water overnight, heat them in sand the day after to harden, and then carve.
Office supplies? I hope you mean art supplies!
@@thetruthexperiment they are the same, my good dude
Anonymous Poster no way, office supplies implies fluorescent lighting and false corporate enthusiasm. Scheduled meetings and cheap suits. Paper shredders and wasted paper. Filing cabinets and busy work. Broken dreams. Cut backs and layoffs. Sensitivity training and bad jokes. Gossip and procrastination! Art supplies! How often do you consider oil paints to be an office supply?
@@thetruthexperiment haha, I see your point.
All art supplies aren't office supplies, but I figure you could make art out of just about anything, so all office supplies are art supplies, if you feel me?
Peter ponders potato peelers for pencils and projects.
Perhaps Peter practices participation in pondering pencil planes' practicibility planing pencils to partake in projects, plans and publicly published videos
This comment section is gonna make my brain hurt
While communicating to poor little pencils
Imma just like your comment just because of the stingray in your profile picq
@@ritchiecole4193 there ain't any sting rays in anyones pp
The hovel's blade starts in the fully pushed back position for a brand new blade. but as you sharpen the blade over time it will get shorter and need to be pushed forward to continue to give you the same depth of cut.
So ready for the compass review
Yes, WHERE is the compass review?!
The answer is NO, in case youre unsure. But youre getting a collection now, so cant stop now. Gotta catch em all!
I love how much of an artist this man is like I heard this line from him "I just wanna draw cool drawings" and I have never felt more defined as someone who also enjoys drawing
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i pronounce it hovel like the shitty shed hoover-ville style things people lived in in the depression and in third world countries because calling the most excessive and expensive pencil sharpener the same thing poor people call their houses that are made out of materials that cost about the same as that sharpener. Idk maybe someone else can make my words more clear if they understand... does anyone understand? do I make sense or am I just saying words. words. the early word gets the birm
i have a pencil sharpener from my papas age that harkens back to the days of single-room schoolhouses. it screws into the wall and gives a very satisfyingly long-point (also smells great)
+1 on “the smell” 👍🏻
Peter consoling his shortened pencil is the perfect way to start my day off on the right foot. He's a treasure 🌞
Watching you draw and make art is so refreshing, and makes me really happy. I have one of your pieces as a fleece blanket, and looking at all the lines and colors is so soothing.
Hi Peter, I think chatting with us once or twice a month is a wonderful idea! 😉
I miss the Twitch streams. It was a relatively small community but always fun. Sometimes I’d just have it on whilst I was doing something else.
It’s your fault that I spent over an hour last night picking out a more sophisticated metal mechanic pencil for my daughter than the plastic ones we usually get. She loves mechanical pencils though and she draws and writes and she’s old enough to hang on to it for awhile. So it is your fault but it’s a good.
In HS , i started to take a Lot more notes after getting good pens and a nice notebook. Good Office supplies are worth ir.
When Pencil sharpeners just aren't hard enough to use
Often with planes (especially cheaper planes) they will need a bit of work to get them into working shape.
For sharpening pencils, the thing you really need to worry about is that the iron (the blade) is perfectly flat on its back side (the side without the bevel), and that it is, of course, razor sharp. Flattening the iron is really simple, all you do is glue a piece of sandpaper to flat pane of glass with some spray adhesive, and then sand.
I’m pretty confident that if you flatten and sharpen the iron (and I mean really sharpen it), those $6 planes will work just as well as the høvel.
Moreover, the høvel is intended to have blades replaced as they dull, like an x-acto. According to their website, a set of 10 replacement blades is $4 plus shipping. While this isn’t a ton of money-especially for a set of 10-it means that with the høvel, eventually you are going to have to pay more money to continue using it. With the Harbor Freight plane, you can just keep sharpening it. Sure, ~eventually~ you will have to replace the blade, but that will take years of constant use, and at that point you could just buy a whole new plane, at $2 more than the cost of a replacement blade set for the høvel.
This is all to say that I think, with the proper care, the cheap planes could do just as well with the høvel, for significantly less money, both up front, and in the long term.
ALSO, if you want to learn more about caring for planes, and woodworking in general (especially for beginners), Rex Krueger’s channel is a fantastic resource. Here is the link to one of his videos, where he walks you through the process of setting up a cheap plane: th-cam.com/video/OrMQrKn61kA/w-d-xo.html
A live stream where you just chat would be a great idea. In the current climate, it is so important to be part of a community and to interact with others!
Peter also uses the jump app as a little art community and it's super cute and supportive
We are here just to soak up what ever you are able to give us, you do you Peter. Great drawing, as usual.
It's a bit strange to see Peter dissatisfied. He is usually such an accepting person.
His consternation, when he's consternated, is most intriguing. It's as if he's half frustrated with whatever he's frustrated with, and half frustrated at the very fact that he's frustrated.
I was able to catch the TH-cam live stream tonight - just wanted to say it was awesome, really enjoyed the free form / conversation format, weather you draw or not during the streams it is good. Thanks for doing streams on TH-cam instead of Twitch!
Jay, more brass! I think these look way cooler than the høvel. Though I still think a mini plane for sharpening pencils is quite nonsensical, høvel or not....
It makes sense for carpenter's pencils in a workshop, but personally I normally just use a pocket knife for those
Hello fellow hipsters
Hello 😎
Is that a good thing?
If you can actually make them work as well a $15 Kum sharpener then more power to you. It's your money after all. Lovely looking piece of equipment in its own right and probably satisfying to use.
Haha!
N D do you think a regular wood plane from the hardware store would work? I’ve never tried.
I say this from a novice woodworker.
With planes, and apparently also "pencil planes" you get what you pay for. You mentioned that the wood of the cheap planes seemed roughly cut and you are right. As someone who enjoys using completely wooden planes, I cringe at the condition of the wood, and the holes the blades are supposed to fit on. Especially the plane in which the blade is all the way to the front. I cannot see a possible use for that kind of plane, as the "block of material" in front of the blade helps create a level surface.
In terms of the question, "why is it all made of brass? For the weight? To look nice?" Brass is often referred to as the "poor man's gold", hence brass is more attractive than stainless steel.
Thank you for the video and have a nice day!
im not an artist or a pen fanatic but there is something about the way you record your videos that relaxes me and keeps me coming back for more
I glued a small piece of sand paper onto a scrap of plywood about 2” x 4” x 1/4”. To sharpen, I cut the wood away with an X-Acto knife, then use the sand paper wood thing to get a super sharp point. Works great every time.
The Hovel is easier to use and cleaner if you use the desk stand. I use a Hovel all the time and love it. I also have the harbor freight plane set I added hooks and use them on my Christmas Tree as ornaments every year. The Hovel also works very well on long point and soft lead pencils.
Thank you for sharing.. I am three years late but I am an art supply addict🤓. Not that anyone cares what I think.. I am stating it anyhow. I like that there are companies that bring beautiful tools to different trades.. sometimes it is the tool that feels good in your hand, not a cheap plastic that breaks and fills a landfill. When it comes to cost..well some buy a video game for the same price and never give it a second thought. Let's support companies that bring back quality. Thank you again.
Peter you are amazing you fill my days with joy and you inspire me to an unbelievably large degree. I draw paint or doodle daily hoping one day I can draw lines as well as you. Thank you.
I've got a flat stick with a small pad of sandpaper with tear-off sheets. Works brilliantly for all sorts of pencils, and cost me $2. I'm with lukas storms and others though- Peter, you're lovely to listen to! Very calming, but also you lead me to think in different and interesting ways. You help me remember that I don't need to "follow the rules" when I'm making art. I can make my own rules. Or not. Thank you!
Doing doodles & riding bikes, I'd say your habits are off to a good start! I'm neither artist nor stationary enthusiast, but your content has such a mellow & oddly productive vibe that it's always a nice treat whenever a new one drops.
Isn't art all about unnecessary stuff that we make, then appreciate and finally find necessary in our life? I think there is a place for stuff like this, even if only one person can appreciate it in some way :)
If you don't have a knife sharpener around then you can slightly temper a blade using the rough bit at the edge of the bottom of a coffee mug. It's not a replacement for sharpening but works to some extent :) Great video as always Peter!
Hey Peter thanks for making then great content. I'm going through a rough time right now and you're helping me calm down. You're awesome.
Peter is Bob Ross, but with pencils. I find this as calming and exciting at the same time as watching actual Bob Ross.
I finally finished all videos on the Peter Draws channel. From start to finish. FINALLY!!!
This is my favorite drawing of yours, I love the picture frame around the drawing.
So you say you want a $20 option? Blackwing pencil sharpener. Best ever! 🙂
Lee Valley / Veritas makes a small, precision low angle block plane for $41.50. Exceptional little tool for miniature woodworking. Nice cuts right out of the box, even better when resharpend and stropped. It comes in a small hinged boz that look like it was for jewelry.
i think the brass plane sharpener is like a fancy novelty gift for wood workers.
Almost any blade can be kept sharp by honing it. The secret is a piece of Vegetable Tanned Leather glued to a board (a Strop). Using the flesh side, you can pull the blade over the leather to maintain almost any steel cutting edge. Using compound can make it work a bit better. The other secret is to find a way to hold these tiny blades so you can strop them 30 or 40 times in a consistent angle. Those tiny little brass planes probably need the blades sharpened. (look where you got them). As an example, I have an Olfa knife for cutting leather. I strop the edge before every use. I have not had to break the blade off in 2 months. A leather strop for any cutting edge is terrific.
I would say that that sort of sharpener is for a specific method of drawing - the variety similar to sketching with charcoal. Holding the pencil at a length with a longer piece of graphite exposed, things you would typically expose with a knife.
They look like brass planes that violin makers use to smoothen the wood. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the video. I never thought about using a plane for sharpening pencils. My preferred method is the same as yours.
That being said, I have the same Harbor Freight planes that you used.
It didn't cut because they are incredibly dull when new. I spent quite a bit of time sharpening them before they would cut effectively.
Since the invention of the pencil, you can bet there have been carpenters sharpening their pencils with a pocket knife. Nothing will ever be more practical than a simple X-Acto blade or pocket knife.
You're great Peter, you always help me up ( the emotional ladder) rather than down and I appreciate that. I appreciate your one of a kind personality. I just hope you know not everyone can make it on TH-cam. But you can and you're growing beautifully. I've told my friends to watch you, but that was in school , just graduated sadly. But other than that you help me get through the endless change. 2020 is the worst year to graduate
I've started to draw again. Anything that comes to me on a blank page. Such good therapy in these covid times. Nearly as good as listening to Peter!
I absolutely adore your art! Also, your voice is very soothing. I don't know why but I've had a hard time developing habits, I may check out that book. Thanks for making my day oh so much better!
Before you review the Iris, get the $30 version. Search Amazon for: Circle Template Ruler Tool Adjustable Measurement for Drafting Drawing Metal Aluminum(Gold).
This way you can compare two supposedly identical products made of different materials at drastically different prices.
*Before anyone asks, no I have nothing to do with either. I just want to see the comparison*
I use these planes for fine detail work. The one with the blade at the front is a 'bullnose', gets right into corners. The one angled at 90 degrees is a 'scraping plane for fine scraping of surfaces. The last one is a standard angle plane for regular wood planing. They are indeed functional, with tweaking. They're for crafts work. Sometimes they are called violinmaker's planes.
also, the 90 degre angle plane is for the end grain (testa) of a wood piece, you cut perpendicular to the direction of the grain (as in the end of a stave)
Hello Peter! Big fan! I was wondering if you could make a small update or video showing us how your Minecraft world has been going along since you stopped making the series.
Lots of love,
André
I think keeping drawing and streaming separate is a probably a smart thing, having something that makes a stream more worth you streaming to you could change the struggle of having that stop start with a drawing and not taint the drawing process. Having a reason to be live and it not be a video is what I’m trying to say, hope that makes sense I’ve trouble writing and now I’m rambling too 😁
The Blackwing aluminium ( painted black) pencil sharpener is what your looking for! AMAZING SHARPENER
Peter is like that cool subtly supporting teacher who is unaware of his coolness
Who knew sharpening a pencil with a blade would be prime asmr material
Periodic streams would be great! do a little announcement a week or so before and I think it would be a great way to actively interact with us once in a while. Streaming can be taxing, so every other week or month seems great if the TH-cam thing is already working for you.
Peter, I'd love to see you streaming on TH-cam every once in a while. Maybe have an announcement beforehand?
I love how grimey your drawing ended up looking.
Almost 80° out, that sounds so nice, its usually 100° by 1pm
back in school I had a pencil that i used for almost the whole school year, i used and sharpened it so many times over the course of the year i got it all the way down to the eraser. Never done it since but id like to one day again.
I did a similar thing with a bic ballpoint. Used it until it was completely empty. Very satisfying
Just checking out different kinds of sharpeners since you peaked my interest and came across the caran d ache pencil peeler ... $25 but out of stock.
Your honesty makes me so happy. 🐢
PETER It would be really cool to see you create a piece like MC Escher's mixed perspectives, optical illusiony art
I think the one beneficial thing is maybe it works to shape the lead into different shapes like making one side super flat to get thin lines or shape into a square n make a nice square line idk you should try it let us know if it works.
I like the original expensive brass plane pencil sharpener, but not at that price. For the novelty, maybe half that price max, and then I'd wait for a sale. But I do like it. The other three.......eh, just as one person's opinion.
Now the drawing with the shortened pencil is elegant, and it makes me think of a close up of the Big Bang long afterwards, close-up-ing on the part that will eventually become Earth. Time travel would be required to find out what that historically looked like. I love the border. Thank you.
Dude with the whole world going crazy, I come here to calm down! I enjoy every moment! Peter for President 2020!
I read Atomic Habits at the beginning of quarantine! I really enjoyed the book and I got a lot out of it, I hope you do/did as well!
The mini brass planes is for wood work I believe, and it's to crave off on a flat surface so I'm not sure if they are really a sharping tool for pencil
Hey Peter! I agree streaming is so different! I hope you consider doing streams on TH-cam, I believe you should try doing a critic of art work in a live situation. You could ask viewers to submit pictures or just do more reviews of museum art work! There is so much public domain artwork that you can just chat about, maybe you can visit a local studio and just enjoy yourself! I hope you enjoy your time with your viewers. I know we enjoy our times with you!
I think the only reason for it being so expensive is that it's all a solid piece, meaning you can't just assemble it you have to fully machine the whole thing in consecutive steps one at a time, where as the harbour freight ones are of a much simpler design, with flat pieces of brass attached to wood that can be mass made and then quickly assembled.
Also thanks for the idea I'm gonna get some if those planes!
Hi Peter I'm a joiner/carpenter so I use many types of plane in my job and it takes a bit of time to hone your technique. If you don't mind me saying you seem to be focusing on the lead sharping rather than just smooth strokes. 70 dollars compared to a plastic Chinese sharpener or scalpel seems dear but, persevere and I'm sure you will be happy with your choice.
really enjoyed the drawing man, love the attention you gave to value throughout the piece. would love to see you do more pencil brotha
Kudos for giving it a fair shake. Something based on a razor blade that is cheaply and easily available would seem more practical to me or maybe a pocket plane although it's hard to find one that's not the cheese grater style (surform). Although to be brutally honest that seems like adding another layer of complexity to my life without much return on investment.
i'd enjoy a chit-chat with you every once in a while, even if only through a TH-cam livestream
Mr. Dude, your profile picture is awesome 👌
I barely use pencils, even as an artist, and when I sharpen I just use a pocket knife. But am I gonna watch my boy Peter review some mini pencil planes? You're god damn right I am
im looking forward to seeing the Makers Cabinet Iris
I love how he says "my name is Peter" in every video.❤
Really love the idea of intermittent youtube streams. I would definitely be down for that. Kind of like a Peter Podcasts Lite. Also super interested in Atomic Habits myself. I'm currently trying to work on better sleep habits. So far i'm 4 days into a regulated sleep schedule. It's hard to keep to but i think it's a good thing.
You can do it!
idk i would totally be down w a live stream of u just chilling and talking. i would enjoy a little moment like that
Peter, you’re quickly becoming my go to channel, I think it’s your mannerisms.
I don’t do art nor do I use pencils, but now I have a strong urge to buy a pack of pencils to sharpen with a box cutter
I imagine the factory edge on those little plane irons leaves something to be desired too. I've found that even cheapo edged tools can suddenly become really useful when you know how to sharpen. That said, I'm still not sure plane-type pencil sharpeners warrant the high prices when one can opt for a small, sharp knife instead.
There's a Kiwami Japan video where he actually goes through the trouble of not only sharpening the little blades on an ol' fashioned pencil sharpener, but he actually re-does the heat treat in his kitchen. Quite impressive.
I used to work in a city maintenance shop that had a whole tool magicksing department. I still think most of the repairs was done with alchemy but it does show that if there's a will there's a way to sharpen a razor blade.
I agree with you, that the expensive brass planes are not the best way to sharpen pencils, if you restrict yourself to pencils that have to be sharpened. On the other hand, I discovered that I don't particularly care for sharpening pencils at all. To that end, mechanical lead holders are FAR superior to any wood-cased pencils. I've been writing Blick Art supplies and Prismacolor trying to convince them to offer their colored leads in a size that fits a standard mechanical lead holder (preferably 2 mm), to both save on trees and make it so that you don't spend all your time breaking soft color leads in something like the Prismacolor Premier line. I seriously don't plan on ever buying another wood-cased pencil in my life.
He really tried one plane from harbor freight and said f no to all the others. He needs to play with them, figure them out. This mans makes me mad 9/10 but I still love his art and videos ughhh
Definitely do some livestreams! I'd love to watch you draw in real time.
$70 buys a real block plane! That can also be used for making wooden things. Needs to be sharpened often though. Knives with disposable blades are usually quite hard/brittle compared to blades meant to be abused and resharpened (e.g. pocket knife, chisel, plane). The disposable blades stay sharp longer when cutting abrasive things like pencil graphite (clay) and recycled paper. Doesn't take much to sharpen all these things, but if you'd rather be drawing the utility knife is perfect.
“I don’t wan’t to be just a pencil hipster” while holding a $70 solid brass pencil plane he bought for his asmr drawing channel. Glad he instantly recognised the ridiculousness of the statement. And peter what you want is a toymakers plane, I think it’s a number 101* ? I will dig one out and send a photo.
Hi Peter.. I found the Veritas Miniature Low angle Block Plane way better than the little cheap brass ones, I got it for half price on ebay (in UK). I love it. It stops me breaking the pencil point with my pen knife and I can shape the lead with it too. I have hundreds of pencils, I'm a total pencil freak. THe angle of the blade on the cheap brass ones was too large, and kept digging into the wood of the pencil without shaving it.
if you do end up doing those streams on youtube that sounds like a great idea
Oi! I love that dwaring Peter. I like that you seem to be using a lot of black fill ins\bgs in the art you do lately. I think it givrs the piece so much interesting depth. Hope your bike ride was joyous. Proud you are developing good habits Peter.
BTW Happy Belated Birthday wishes to you! Don't worry - the 30s decade is a very learned decade in that I believe it is when you make a lot of self discoveries and put away many useless things that hinder your life. In my 30s I had the guts to make some very positive changes to myself and my family. Just saying. Mk - Sandman summons me. Seeya soon. Oh! Yep, chatting once in awhile on TH-cam would be so cool. 😎 Sweet offering of yourself to those of us who have grown to love your channel here. ❤
That drawing really turned out great.
About Twitch, it's fine. We just miss hanging out. There's a wise saying that goes something like, fill your own cup so that it runs over and flows onto others....something like that. Take care of your own needs so that you may be able to share your joy with others.
A happy Peter means more joy going around for everyone 😊
i saw a video covering this plane by adam savage before watching your first video... and if u havent checked out their channel yet I'm sure u would find it satisfying btw. While there is a brand premium, it is more so the metalwork itself that makes the object expensive. it takes a lot of skill to make something like that
What do you think about art discords? Do you like the communities? Do you think being a solo artist is lonely or do you think solo artists have more time for their art?
Brass has a certain aesthetic...reminds me of horses and military honors and english bars. Some people are superstitious about types of metal.
Damn I remember Harbor Freight. 🤔 I bought a lot of my first household tools there.
I hope you can enjoy coffee again someday. Maybe you could start with a nice, smooth sumatra.
Hey Peter,
I used to love to watch videos on pencil sharpers a while ago. Just letting you know they’re are thousands of hipsters and would be cool to see you review other fancy pencil sharpeners!
This dude is adorable in a way kinda like the kid at school that you gatta protect from bullies
I used to draw a lot when I was a kid. Pencils were my favorite, however there was a long period in the 90s when you could not get a decent pencil sharpener to save your life. Even pencils had flakey wood and brittle lead. It contributed in no small way to me becoming more of a musician instead.
youtube live once or twice a month would be great! I miss getting to chat on twitch!
Thought of you today when my magnetic compass came...I'm a circle girl and compass challenged. Got it from Amazon. They had several. I got the only one with 5 stars
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