That team was so fun to watch....allot of tuff-guy characters. Allen was a great coach, he had an amazing staff. 1972 was in an era when football was overtaking baseball as America's choice for Fandom. '72 was the year that I became a lifelong fan.(atic). Side note: sports writing was so good back in the day. It wasn't lazy or biased never jejune or plastic, just well written. Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
You're right about football overtaking baseball as America's pastime as fans grew weary of one out of every three baseball games resulting in a shut-out in 1972. There was a reason as to why viewers thought it was boring, so they were turning their attention in greater numbers to the NFL. Regarding sports writing, I think you nailed it, too! It was more professional and almost all scribes wrote in complete sentences, not utilizing phrases and clauses as complete thoughts like so many in recent years.
@@markgardner9460 The 72 Redskins had two of the toughest hombres around!. Fischer of course who didn't shy from contact, and of course, Larry Brown,who may have been the most courageous RB ever!
REDSKINS - REDSKINS - REDSKINS! I was not a fan but I highly respected them. Wish Lombardi had lived longer to coach them. Kilmer was damn tough as nails!
It would have been interesting to see what the roster looked like if Lombardi was still there for a few more years - totally different for sure. I don't know why Kilmer didn't wear a chinstrap. He must have enjoyed getting his helmet popped off.
Allen was a unique coach! Organized methodical and definitely a rah-rah guy! He was a wheeler dealer and obviously preferred experience to youth!.All the trades! The "Ramskins!"
The Redskins defense played relatively well in the Super Bowl Miami had 253 net yards 49 on one Csonka burst and 12 first downs but Miami shut down Washington I think the Redskins longest play was 18 yards remarkable with that offensive line, Brown, Taylor and Jerry Smith!
As a child of the '70s, I love these videos. The NFL meant more to me then than it does now. And I remember all of the players from that era, yet I only know a handful of players on each of the teams now.
Thank you Mark. I quite enjoyed this one & also shared it with my kid brother John who's 3 years younger. We'd only been watching & following the NFL since the late 1960s. I especially like your question at ~11:38 about Ron McDole being the last lineman to wear a basic face guard 😎. As you say in your introduction, "... and some cool music 🎶 too!" (sic) P.S. Some of your viewers may not know that Marv Levy was a successful head coach in the CFL before he moved back South to the NFL.
I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Yes, Marv Levy left after the '72 season to become the Head Coach of the Montreal Alouettes from '73-'77, then moved onto the K.C. Chiefs in '78. Thank you!
"Does This Great Running Back Belong In The Hall Of Fame?" is a video that I published about him. It's in my Playlist in the "Special Features" section.
As always a great video and it features my favorite team although didn’t start following until 2 years later (it’s ok though - plenty of glory in the next decade). Some of this video I’ve never seen. Funny story - even though my parents are/were Jewish from Pittsburgh I’ve been in a Catholic Church more. Because of football - while they were still married they had season tickets and our babysitter would take us to church on those Sundays. (In the front row 😂). Always glad to watch!
@@markgardner9460 glad you enjoyed it. I was 7 at the time and I do not remember enjoying church. My sister was 4 so I’m sure she didn’t either. By that point my mom and dad were almost at the end of their marriage - split April 1973 - and I like to think that the NFC championship game was the last good moment for them… I think they went 😊
For many young children, attending church service stretches the patience threshold. I for one could have been taking in the half hour The NFL Today show!
Not only were there some well known assistant coaches on this staff, three players would go on to become head coaches in the league - Jack Pardee, Sam Wyche, and Richie Petibone. Rusty Tillman would become a respected Special Teams coach and coordinator.
I think that Charlie Taylor doesn't get enough credit as being one of the greatest receivers of all-time. He started out as a Running Back, but was converted to a Wide Receiver. His moves as a running back transferred incredibly well after he caught the ball, as there are few who ran as effectively as he did after the catch.
@@markgardner9460 And he played when defenders were allowed to maul the WRs. ETA: I read Larry Browns biography how he rose from the ghetto to be a great RB. He is also a man I respected immensely.
Yes "I'll Always Get Up" is one of my favorite books. He grew up in The Hill District in Pittsburgh and he said that the higher you went up the hill, the tougher it got.
Born in 1952, I've lived through the same eras you may have my own issues with today's NFL. I'm curious as to what those issues are and the changes that would make the game more watchable for you.
I've been buying old Football Digest magazines from 1979 through 1980 at my local comic/gaming/ sports card shop (for $2.00 each!). They are fascinating time capsules and so enjoyable to read. I love the old Tampa Bay Buccaneers ( feel free to laugh) and I've enjoyed the interviews with Doug Williams, Lee Roy Selmon, and Ricky Bell. If anyone comes across some old Football Digest, pick them up.
Those are terrific - I have some and they're incredible reading....just like the Baseball Digest magazines from the '70's & '80's. They are well worth the money.
Was a fan of those Redskin teams. George Allen is a great coach. It was great that HC Allen was able to acquire some players that did really good. Pat Fischer was one of the best. So was Mike Bass. George Allen was a great Head Coach. Good players and an excellent coaching staff. One of my favorites was the backup MLB who was also a special teams ace, Rusty Tillman. Every week he seemed to be on the Madden Team.
I remember reading somewhere that George Allen traded so much with the Redskins that they would forget what picks they had and try to draft when they had already traded that pick or trade the same pick to multiple teams and the commissioner had to sort it out.
When I research some matters regarding trades and acquisitions, sometimes I run into discrepancies regarding the year and/or the numbered draft pick. It can be very frustrating to un-Earth the truth, Steven.
Ron McDole, Diron Talbert and I think a young Dave Butz with Coy Bacon what seasoned D line and a damn tough one. Didnt Jake Scott leave Miami to play for Redskins?? Mike Curtis of Cokts fame played his last year 78 in a Redskins uniform. In no expert but the 70s Redskins were one tough and talented group ,and I remember watching them on TV. As always great content here thank you
Yes, George Allen scooped up to sign Dave Butz in '75 after they determined that there was a mistake in his '73 rookie contract. It made him a free agent, but the NFL really made Washington pay because they awarded the Cardinals a 1977 #1, 1978 #1 and the Redskins 1978 #2 draft choices as compensation. That was a lot, but he ended up playing 14 years for Washington!
It's 6:15 am I should get going and get started on my chores for the day........oh wait a minute Mark posted another classic NFL video overnight ? Well then., I've got time another cup of coffee ! Thanks for posting
'Course their was Brown and Taylor. But Jefferson, Smith and Harraway was a great supporting cast. Harraway was good in an era when two backs pretty much shared the carries. I was surprised to hear that the Skins got him from the Browns. So the Browns had Charlie Harraway, Bo Scott (another great supporting caster), Ron Johnson and Leroy Kelly at one point then? That's a pretty good running back room.
Harraway's last season for the Browns was '68, so it was only Kelly and he. In '69 it was Kelly, Johnson and Scott which was still a formidable combination.
Yes he did. Old Charlie hung up his cleats a few years before The Dancing Bear, but those guys were next to impossible to successfully run against. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The Redskins were obviously a tough physical team, good offensive line and a bruising running attack led by Larry Brown ( I think the running game was their identity!) and of course a excellent receiving corp with Taylor, Jefferson and Smith.But speaking for myself what was unique about them was "Over the Hill" defense tough,smart,gamers! McDole,Biggs, Talbot the great LB corp Hamburger,Pardee,McClinton, and Bass Fischer and Brig Owens no real superstars but players who meshed very well!
Harold McClinton was one rough customer. He knocked around Jim Hart and Roger Staubach. That defense played as a team which is preferrable to a bunch of "me! me!" players, in my opinion.
Oh The legendary coach George Allen who was known for trading a way draft picks for veteran players. Reminds me of the Steelers before they got Chuck Noll but the difference was that the Redskins and Allen were much better than those Steeler teams. Also 1972 was also a rememberable year for both the Dolphins and the Steelers the Dolphins finished the year undefeated and the Steelers won their 1st divisional Title in their history on top of the Immaculate reception. I remember watching highlights of the 72 season and remember the 72 skins and the over the hill gang. That team was very good. Oh Marv Levy he became the Head Coach of the Chiefs in 1978 and he Installed a very unusual offense for the NFL the Wing-T because he knew that his defense was a weak point of the team so he wanted to keep them off of the field as much as possible.
I remember when Levy installed the old Wing-T offense in KC. It took the league by storm.....but for only the first 2 or 3 games, then the Defensive Coordinators and defensive players adjusted and greatly reduced it's effectiveness. Marv was very innovative and obviously a terrific coach.
That was an unbelievable trade that shaped some really competitive Redskin teams. I have to believe McDole was the only D-Lineman with the 2 bar mask. I was unable to identify your jersey. Maybe the lighting threw me off. I was thinking about how few stadiums exist from that era. It was strange watching the Skins at Shaeffer Stadium. What a cheap build that place was. Might be a topic for a future video. The stadiums of the 1970’s. Maybe breakdown by division over a few part series. Nice work on this video Mark!
Another viewer commented that the 49ers Charlie Krueger also wore that style facemask. My jersey was Sonny Jurgensen. I read where Schaeffer Stadium only cost $10 million to build. Even in 1970, that's pretty cheap. Thanks, Evan!!
This is definitely one of my favorite all time teams. The defensive effort of only giving up 20 points in 3 play-off games was fantastic! I agree about the goal post. That may have very well been the first Super Bowl to go to OT if not for that. Also, Curt Knight missed a short field goal to cost the Redskins!
The 1972 Redskins were quite a formidable team. It had a tough defense and a pretty explosive offense for the time. Looking at these old videos of Billy Kilmer passing, I see that he threw a perfect deep ball and had the single-bar face mask, which was excellent. Larry Brown looks like he had a similar playing style to Marshall Faulk. I was only 8 when they played in the Super Bowl and had just started understanding football, and I could understand how the Dolphins could only manage 14 points. Now I see how good this Washington team was, and the Dolphins had their hands full. I really enjoy your videos. I like seeing which throwback jersey you will wear.
Thank you for watching and commenting! Kilmer received a lot of guff for throwing some wobblers, but I didn't see any when he was throwing td passes in this video. I plan on sporting a jersey that I haven't worn in quite some time for my next video. It's one of my favorites.
@@dang75790 What did the scoreboard say 14-7. Now you being specific . Their offense was shut out not the team. I am not debating whether they were the better team The Dolphins were the only unbeaten team in NFL history. There are three fazes to football offense, defense, and special teams.
When you’re over the hill - it’s all downhill from there, as they say. Very blue collar- like team, with years of experience - both lines were big and solid. They almost did it in ‘72.
You're right; their lines were big with the exception of 235 pound Center Len Hauss, but he was rugged and very durable. The players played team ball and there were no hot dogs allowed on that team.
That's right - basically smash-mouth football with a solid defense. Charlie Brown was the deep receiving threat much like Charlie Taylor was earlier. Art Monk was kind of in the mold of Roy Jefferson, although Monk caught a lot more passes that were a bit on the shorter variety.
@@markgardner9460 I always got the feeling John Madden really liked those Washington Hogs. He wasn’t obvious about it - but you could tell that was his kinda team.
I think that you're right. He admired the smash mouth football that they played, along with the occasional deep pass to Charlie Brown. Their style probably reminded him of his own Raiders teams.
McDole was for sure the last lineman with the 2 bar. Krueger retired in 73 . The only other ones I can think of were Tom Goode and Houston Antwine, very early 70's ( SB V snap for O'brien kick ) and the Giants Henry Reed and Jim Otto but both had U bars as well,
Watching the 1972-73 Washington Redskins dismantle, demolish and destroy my Dallas Cowboys in the 1972-73 NFC championship game in old RFK Stadium was a bad dream, a Sunday afternoon nightmare come true. Washington simply made Dallas look silly in this game.. The final score was 26-3. It felt like 66-3. I caught so much grief from all of the .kids who were Redskin fans in my 5th grade class and who lived in my neighborhood .George Allen's Redskins teams in the early to mid 1970s were truly mean, ornery, nasty, experienced, smart, agile, hostile and mobile.
George Allen was the Defensive Coordinator/Assistant of the 1963 world champion Chicago Bears - The Monsters of the Midway. So he brought that rough 'n tough style to Washington.
6:29 That was not a TD. How could the Ref who was right there not see that Taylor only had one foot inbounds? And a slight correction it was a blocked FG and a Garo Yepremian backwards pass that Mike Bass returned for a TD. It was the only Washington score that day. Which means that it was two Super Bowls in a row where an offense did not score. Washington in those days was like a retirement home for long time vets.
@@markgardner9460 I guess a backward pass can be seen as a fumble. Then again the ball didn't hit the ground after Garo threw it. It was tipped in the air then caught by Bass.
@@markgardner9460 That kick was blocked by Dolphins lineman Bob Heinz. Manny Sistrunk got his forearm undr his facemask and onto his throat, pushing Heinz backward where the kick hit the back of his helmet.
The National Football Guide published by The Sporting News 1973 states that Bill Brundige blocked the kick and the Bass touchdown was via "fumble recovery"
Out of all the NFL running backs I've seen over my life i can't remember one that ran with as much reckless abandon and paid as great a painful price as Larry Brown
Wasn't this the only NFL team to have a fight song? Maybe I'm wrong or just recalling an isolated incident, but it seems like there was a "Hail to Redskins" song.
In 2019, the team finally laid to rest that song. I'm unsure if there wrre other fight songs. "Luv Ya Blue" was the Oilers song in the late '70's, although I don't know if that is characterized as a fight song.
Verlon Biggs was pretty big. 🤣 I think all those old warriors and George Allen was a perfect combination. They gave it their all for one last year in the sun. What happened to them the next year? Did a lot of those guys retire?
They won the Wild Card in '73 and lost to MN in the playoffs 27-20. The team got really old and they replaced the retirees with expensive free agents since they didn't have hardly any draft picks cuz George Allen traded most of them.
@@markgardner9460 True to a degree, but he never had a losing season. His last, I believe in 1977, two other teams kicked field goals / etc, for his 9-5 team to miss the playoffs. IMHO, they would have gone deep. 1978, they started 6-0.
A Super Bowl that the Redskins should have won. Believe it or not the 1973-74 Dolphins were a better team that finished 15-2 with 3 easy post season wins.
@@markgardner9460 The next Super Bowl Csonka rushed for a then record 145 yards and bulled his way into the end zone. In the AFC Championship almost knocked himself out running into the goalpost with 3 TDs. He was the under-rated Dolphin considering.
The 1972 team played no playoff teams during the season the 1973 team played the Raiders Cowboys and Steelers all made the playoffs and beat them during the season
That's right. George Allen sat Larry Brown those last two games in order to rest him for the play-offs which resulted in O.J. Simpson winning the rushing title.
I wonder what other players' jerseys we have in common. I'm going to spring one in my next video that hasn't been shown in quite some time. It's one of my favorites, so we'll see if you have it or the companion jersey.
Did Jack Pardee always look like he was like 50 or something ? Sometimes you see these old footage and everyone looks well " over the hill " I guess :) Maybe they smoked a lot of butts and drank and had jobs in a factory in the off-season. Maybe that's why everyone looked so old
George Allen liked veteran players over rookies because they don't make mistakes, yet Billy Kilmer threw 2 interceptions to Jake Scott in the Super Bowl
@@markgardner9460 now what are the chances that a guy that has an SI that old might have some old Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazines layin' around? If you do, I envy you. The names that pop up on old high school teams are astounding.
Although I have a ton of baseball and football magazines, I do not have any Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazines. I love reading high school stats of players from the '60's and '70's though! I have a mountain of statistical notes and anecdotes, some of which will comprise an upcoming vudeo.
If the Redskins had continued to be a winning franchise during the Snyder era, I suspect Chief Two Guns White Calf would still be honored on the side of the helmet. Instead, losing, with an unlikeable owner, and hyper PC times, doomed the team's tradition. Now, all the virtuous managed to do was erase another reference to NA's. They could've changed it to the Potomacs (local tribe) and kept the imagery. FSU pays the Seminole Nation a buttload of cash and the SN has told all the do-gooders to stuff it if they don't like it.
Is it fair that Redskins had a soft spot for not so Athletic questionable sobriety type QB's Jurgenson- Kilmer?. They were certainly ready game day,and Entertaining. 😂😂😂
They overused him, which us what he spoke about in his autobiography entitled "I'll Always Get Up". If a Head Coach had a big gun, he shot it as often as possible back in the day.
Defensive End Jack Gregory made the Pro Bowl after his 18 1/2 sack season, but that was exactly half of the team's yearly total. They gave up 4.6 yards per carry which is not good, to your point.
I don’t feel your comments re: Pat Fischer are necessarily justified. I’ve watched lots of film on him and he was beaten constantly. Additionally, he was a DIRTY player. He’s not in HoF and there’s a reasons. Totally overrated.
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As a former Redskins fan these videos make me sad that they are gone. hail to the Redskins !!
Perhaps gone in some cases, but definitely not forgotten.
They are crying looking down on what the NFL has become.
Agreed. I miss the team I grew up with. Hope the Commanders lose every game they play even against Dallas. Hail to the Redskins!
As a Viking fan I miss them too💜
I am hearing rumors that they may return.
That team was so fun to watch....allot of tuff-guy characters. Allen was a great coach, he had an amazing staff.
1972 was in an era when football was overtaking baseball as America's choice for Fandom. '72 was the year that I became a lifelong fan.(atic).
Side note: sports writing was so good back in the day. It wasn't lazy or biased never jejune or plastic, just well written. Thanks brother, you're appreciated.
You're right about football overtaking baseball as America's pastime as fans grew weary of one out of every three baseball games resulting in a shut-out in 1972. There was a reason as to why viewers thought it was boring, so they were turning their attention in greater numbers to the NFL.
Regarding sports writing, I think you nailed it, too! It was more professional and almost all scribes wrote in complete sentences, not utilizing phrases and clauses as complete thoughts like so many in recent years.
@markgardner9460 Also in 1972 a strike wiped out the first week of the season that could have turned many fans away
Indeed. Great point!
Pat Fisher vs. Harold Carmichael was always a classic.
That's a fact! David vs. Goliath. Fischer gave up a full foot in height - great match-up
@@markgardner9460 The 72 Redskins had two of the toughest hombres around!. Fischer of course who didn't shy from contact, and of course, Larry Brown,who may have been the most courageous RB ever!
Brilliant video, loved the skins of past!
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you!
REDSKINS - REDSKINS - REDSKINS! I was not a fan but I highly respected them. Wish Lombardi had lived longer to coach them. Kilmer was damn tough as nails!
It would have been interesting to see what the roster looked like if Lombardi was still there for a few more years - totally different for sure. I don't know why Kilmer didn't wear a chinstrap. He must have enjoyed getting his helmet popped off.
Mark do the 72 Redskins fare better with Allen or Lombardi?
Allen was a unique coach! Organized methodical and definitely a rah-rah guy! He was a wheeler dealer and obviously preferred experience to youth!.All the trades! The "Ramskins!"
Wow! Interesting Ron McDole face mask!
The Redskins defense played relatively well in the Super Bowl Miami had 253 net yards 49 on one Csonka burst and 12 first downs but Miami shut down Washington I think the Redskins longest play was 18 yards remarkable with that offensive line, Brown, Taylor and Jerry Smith!
As a child of the '70s, I love these videos. The NFL meant more to me then than it does now. And I remember all of the players from that era, yet I only know a handful of players on each of the teams now.
I'm with ya - I know the big names of today and that's about it. Back in the day I was familiar with probably 80% of all players.
Loved this team & the Dolphins
Thank you Mark. I quite enjoyed this one & also shared it with my kid brother John who's 3 years younger. We'd only been watching & following the NFL since the late 1960s.
I especially like your question at ~11:38 about Ron McDole being the last lineman to wear a basic face guard 😎.
As you say in your introduction, "... and some cool music 🎶 too!" (sic)
P.S. Some of your viewers may not know that Marv Levy was a successful head coach in the CFL before he moved back South to the NFL.
I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Yes, Marv Levy left after the '72 season to become the Head Coach of the Montreal Alouettes from '73-'77, then moved onto the K.C. Chiefs in '78. Thank you!
Larry Brown doesn't get his due as one of the great all-time running backs.
"Does This Great Running Back Belong In The Hall Of Fame?" is a video that I published about him. It's in my Playlist in the "Special Features" section.
As always a great video and it features my favorite team although didn’t start following until 2 years later (it’s ok though - plenty of glory in the next decade). Some of this video I’ve never seen.
Funny story - even though my parents are/were Jewish from Pittsburgh I’ve been in a Catholic Church more. Because of football - while they were still married they had season tickets and our babysitter would take us to church on those Sundays. (In the front row 😂).
Always glad to watch!
Thank you, David. That was a funny story about the football game/church!
@@markgardner9460 glad you enjoyed it. I was 7 at the time and I do not remember enjoying church. My sister was 4 so I’m sure she didn’t either.
By that point my mom and dad were almost at the end of their marriage - split April 1973 - and I like to think that the NFC championship game was the last good moment for them… I think they went 😊
For many young children, attending church service stretches the patience threshold. I for one could have been taking in the half hour The NFL Today show!
Not only were there some well known assistant coaches on this staff, three players would go on to become head coaches in the league - Jack Pardee, Sam Wyche, and Richie Petibone. Rusty Tillman would become a respected Special Teams coach and coordinator.
That's right. Thank you for bringing that up!
I moved to Camp Springs Maryland in 71 and became a Redskins Fan and Charlie Taylor was my favorite player. The NFL today is unwatchable.
I think that Charlie Taylor doesn't get enough credit as being one of the greatest receivers of all-time. He started out as a Running Back, but was converted to a Wide Receiver. His moves as a running back transferred incredibly well after he caught the ball, as there are few who ran as effectively as he did after the catch.
@@markgardner9460 And he played when defenders were allowed to maul the WRs. ETA: I read Larry Browns biography how he rose from the ghetto to be a great RB. He is also a man I respected immensely.
Yes "I'll Always Get Up" is one of my favorite books. He grew up in The Hill District in Pittsburgh and he said that the higher you went up the hill, the tougher it got.
Born in 1952, I've lived through the same eras you may have my own issues with today's NFL. I'm curious as to what those issues are and the changes that would make the game more watchable for you.
I've been buying old Football Digest magazines from 1979 through 1980 at my local comic/gaming/ sports card shop (for $2.00 each!). They are fascinating time capsules and so enjoyable to read. I love the old Tampa Bay Buccaneers ( feel free to laugh) and I've enjoyed the interviews with Doug Williams, Lee Roy Selmon, and Ricky Bell. If anyone comes across some old Football Digest, pick them up.
Those are terrific - I have some and they're incredible reading....just like the Baseball Digest magazines from the '70's & '80's. They are well worth the money.
Great stuff, as usual.
Thanks again!
Was a fan of those Redskin teams. George Allen is a great coach. It was great that HC Allen was able to acquire some players that did really good. Pat Fischer was one of the best. So was Mike Bass. George Allen was a great Head Coach. Good players and an excellent coaching staff. One of my favorites was the backup MLB who was also a special teams ace, Rusty Tillman. Every week he seemed to be on the Madden Team.
From '79 through '91 he was the Seahawks Special Teams Coach
I remember reading somewhere that George Allen traded so much with the Redskins that they would forget what picks they had and try to draft when they had already traded that pick or trade the same pick to multiple teams and the commissioner had to sort it out.
That's true. It happened at least twice and The Sporting News newspaper issues, registers and guides have been fouled up on account of it.
I saw that!
When I research some matters regarding trades and acquisitions, sometimes I run into discrepancies regarding the year and/or the numbered draft pick. It can be very frustrating to un-Earth the truth, Steven.
@@markgardner9460 Yes that would be difficult to keep track of!
Hahaha 🤣. As they often say at games and stage productions:
"You can't follow the players without a program."
Ron McDole, Diron Talbert and I think a young Dave Butz with Coy Bacon what seasoned D line and a damn tough one. Didnt Jake Scott leave Miami to play for Redskins?? Mike Curtis of Cokts fame played his last year 78 in a Redskins uniform. In no expert but the 70s Redskins were one tough and talented group ,and I remember watching them on TV. As always great content here thank you
Yes, George Allen scooped up to sign Dave Butz in '75 after they determined that there was a mistake in his '73 rookie contract. It made him a free agent, but the NFL really made Washington pay because they awarded the Cardinals a 1977 #1, 1978 #1 and the Redskins 1978 #2 draft choices as compensation. That was a lot, but he ended up playing 14 years for Washington!
It's 6:15 am I should get going and get started on my chores for the day........oh wait a minute Mark posted another classic NFL video overnight ? Well then., I've got time another cup of coffee ! Thanks for posting
If one cup of coffee is good, then two has to be better, right? Especially if there's a new SportsStatsNGab video that has been released. Thank you!!
'Course their was Brown and Taylor. But Jefferson, Smith and Harraway was a great supporting cast. Harraway was good in an era when two backs pretty much shared the carries. I was surprised to hear that the Skins got him from the Browns. So the Browns had Charlie Harraway, Bo Scott (another great supporting caster), Ron Johnson and Leroy Kelly at one point then? That's a pretty good running back room.
Harraway's last season for the Browns was '68, so it was only Kelly and he. In '69 it was Kelly, Johnson and Scott which was still a formidable combination.
I think Charlie Krueger of the 49ers wore the same face ask as Ron McDole. Man I love these old clips!
Yes he did. Old Charlie hung up his cleats a few years before The Dancing Bear, but those guys were next to impossible to successfully run against. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The Redskins were obviously a tough physical team, good offensive line and a bruising running attack led by Larry Brown ( I think the running game was their identity!) and of course a excellent receiving corp with Taylor, Jefferson and Smith.But speaking for myself what was unique about them was "Over the Hill" defense tough,smart,gamers! McDole,Biggs, Talbot the great LB corp Hamburger,Pardee,McClinton, and Bass Fischer and Brig Owens no real superstars but players who meshed very well!
Harold McClinton was one rough customer. He knocked around Jim Hart and Roger Staubach. That defense played as a team which is preferrable to a bunch of "me! me!" players, in my opinion.
His life was tragically cut short when he died of injuries sustained from being hit by a vehicle while stopping to help someone change a flat tire.
Oh The legendary coach George Allen who was known for trading a way draft picks for veteran players. Reminds me of the Steelers before they got Chuck Noll but the difference was that the Redskins and Allen were much better than those Steeler teams. Also 1972 was also a rememberable year for both the Dolphins and the Steelers the Dolphins finished the year undefeated and the Steelers won their 1st divisional Title in their history on top of the Immaculate reception. I remember watching highlights of the 72 season and remember the 72 skins and the over the hill gang. That team was very good. Oh Marv Levy he became the Head Coach of the Chiefs in 1978 and he Installed a very unusual offense for the NFL the Wing-T because he knew that his defense was a weak point of the team so he wanted to keep them off of the field as much as possible.
I remember when Levy installed the old Wing-T offense in KC. It took the league by storm.....but for only the first 2 or 3 games, then the Defensive Coordinators and defensive players adjusted and greatly reduced it's effectiveness. Marv was very innovative and obviously a terrific coach.
That was an unbelievable trade that shaped some really competitive Redskin teams. I have to believe McDole was the only D-Lineman with the 2 bar mask. I was unable to identify your jersey. Maybe the lighting threw me off. I was thinking about how few stadiums exist from that era. It was strange watching the Skins at Shaeffer Stadium. What a cheap build that place was. Might be a topic for a future video. The stadiums of the 1970’s. Maybe breakdown by division over a few part series. Nice work on this video Mark!
Another viewer commented that the 49ers Charlie Krueger also wore that style facemask. My jersey was Sonny Jurgensen. I read where Schaeffer Stadium only cost $10 million to build. Even in 1970, that's pretty cheap. Thanks, Evan!!
This is definitely one of my favorite all time teams. The defensive effort of only giving up 20 points in 3 play-off games was fantastic! I agree about the goal post. That may have very well been the first Super Bowl to go to OT if not for that. Also, Curt Knight missed a short field goal to cost the Redskins!
He missed to the right on a short 32 yarder!!
Good job again. These Redskins were an odball quirky team but they fit together so well.
I think it demonstrates that players with a team-first concept is almost always preferrable to a bunch of self-centered players.
@@markgardner9460 I would take it a step further and say always preferable to self centered jerks!
The 1972 Redskins were quite a formidable team. It had a tough defense and a pretty explosive offense for the time. Looking at these old videos of Billy Kilmer passing, I see that he threw a perfect deep ball and had the single-bar face mask, which was excellent. Larry Brown looks like he had a similar playing style to Marshall Faulk. I was only 8 when they played in the Super Bowl and had just started understanding football, and I could understand how the Dolphins could only manage 14 points. Now I see how good this Washington team was, and the Dolphins had their hands full. I really enjoy your videos. I like seeing which throwback jersey you will wear.
Thank you for watching and commenting! Kilmer received a lot of guff for throwing some wobblers, but I didn't see any when he was throwing td passes in this video. I plan on sporting a jersey that I haven't worn in quite some time for my next video. It's one of my favorites.
The dolphins shut them out in the Super Bowl.
@@dang75790 The Dolphins didn’t shut them out. Their offense didn’t score. No team has ever been shut out in the Super Bowl.
@Buc27blount the only reason they didn't on the scoreboard. was the dolphins special teams. The redskins offense never scored. They got shutout.
@@dang75790 What did the scoreboard say 14-7. Now you being specific . Their offense was shut out not the team. I am not debating whether they were the better team The Dolphins were the only unbeaten team in NFL history. There are three fazes to football offense, defense, and special teams.
SKOL 💪💪 Kramer is my all time favorite Viking
Two Minute Tommy was the man. I was able to see him out on the town a couple of times. He was somethin' else!
When you’re over the hill - it’s all downhill from there, as they say. Very blue collar- like team, with years of experience - both lines were big and solid. They almost did it in ‘72.
You're right; their lines were big with the exception of 235 pound Center Len Hauss, but he was rugged and very durable. The players played team ball and there were no hot dogs allowed on that team.
@@markgardner9460 The 80’s Redskins carried some of the same characteristics as this team - with the “Hogs” and the punishing running game.
That's right - basically smash-mouth football with a solid defense. Charlie Brown was the deep receiving threat much like Charlie Taylor was earlier. Art Monk was kind of in the mold of Roy Jefferson, although Monk caught a lot more passes that were a bit on the shorter variety.
@@markgardner9460 I always got the feeling John Madden really liked those Washington Hogs. He wasn’t obvious about it - but you could tell that was his kinda team.
I think that you're right. He admired the smash mouth football that they played, along with the occasional deep pass to Charlie Brown. Their style probably reminded him of his own Raiders teams.
McDole was for sure the last lineman with the 2 bar. Krueger retired in 73 . The only other ones I can think of were Tom Goode and Houston Antwine, very early 70's ( SB V snap for O'brien kick ) and the Giants Henry Reed and Jim Otto but both had U bars as well,
Ah, yes, Houston Antwine! I definitely recall Otto, but had not recalled Henry Reed. Thanks for the heads up!
I will have to research Tom Goode, as I don't recall him.
Great video. Kilmer’s three interceptions cost him and the team a Super Bowl trophy.
Yeah, the one that he threw to Jake Scott in the end zone was really bad. Thank you!
No Name Defense shut them down totally..It was an incredibly boring game..
Could you imagine what Lombardi would have done with Jurgensen and Larry Brown and company. As a Cowboys fan glad they didn’t have to face that long.
It's too bad that he only had the one year with those guys.
Watching the 1972-73 Washington Redskins dismantle, demolish and destroy my Dallas Cowboys in the 1972-73 NFC championship game in old RFK Stadium was a bad dream, a Sunday afternoon nightmare come true. Washington simply made Dallas look silly in this game.. The final score was 26-3. It felt like 66-3. I caught so much grief from all of the .kids who were Redskin fans in my 5th grade class and who lived in my neighborhood .George Allen's Redskins teams in the early to mid 1970s were truly mean, ornery, nasty, experienced, smart, agile, hostile and mobile.
George Allen was the Defensive Coordinator/Assistant of the 1963 world champion Chicago Bears - The Monsters of the Midway. So he brought that rough 'n tough style to Washington.
New Years Eve in Washington it was a happy one for the Redskins
Charley did not get both feet down at 6:29.
You're right - he didn't even get the 2nd foot down out of bounds!
6:29 That was not a TD. How could the Ref who was right there not see that Taylor only had one foot inbounds? And a slight correction it was a blocked FG and a Garo Yepremian backwards pass that Mike Bass returned for a TD. It was the only Washington score that day. Which means that it was two Super Bowls in a row where an offense did not score. Washington in those days was like a retirement home for long time vets.
Pro Football Reference has the touchdown in question as a "49 yard special teams fumble return"
@@markgardner9460 I guess a backward pass can be seen as a fumble. Then again the ball didn't hit the ground after Garo threw it. It was tipped in the air then caught by Bass.
@@markgardner9460 That kick was blocked by Dolphins lineman Bob Heinz. Manny Sistrunk got his forearm undr his facemask and onto his throat, pushing Heinz backward where the kick hit the back of his helmet.
@@6400az So Manny inadvertently blocked it. 🤣
The National Football Guide published by The Sporting News 1973 states that Bill Brundige blocked the kick and the Bass touchdown was via "fumble recovery"
Out of all the NFL running backs I've seen over my life i can't remember one that ran with as much reckless abandon and paid as great a painful price as Larry Brown
He's one of my favorites. "I'll Always Get Up" is a very good autobiography of his.
Wasn't this the only NFL team to have a fight song? Maybe I'm wrong or just recalling an isolated incident, but it seems like there was a "Hail to Redskins" song.
In 2019, the team finally laid to rest that song. I'm unsure if there wrre other fight songs. "Luv Ya Blue" was the Oilers song in the late '70's, although I don't know if that is characterized as a fight song.
Verlon Biggs was pretty big. 🤣
I think all those old warriors and George Allen was a perfect combination. They gave it their all for one last year in the sun.
What happened to them the next year? Did a lot of those guys retire?
They won the Wild Card in '73 and lost to MN in the playoffs 27-20. The team got really old and they replaced the retirees with expensive free agents since they didn't have hardly any draft picks cuz George Allen traded most of them.
George Allen - "The future is now"
He subscribed to the motto of "live now, pay later", so to speak.
@@markgardner9460 True to a degree, but he never had a losing season. His last, I believe in 1977, two other teams kicked field goals / etc, for his 9-5 team to miss the playoffs. IMHO, they would have gone deep. 1978, they started 6-0.
Not many people realize that George Allen signed about 1/3 of the key players that won the first superbowl under Joe Gibbs
Theismann and Riggins were the biggies, but there were a lot of other key players, too, as you mentioned.
A Super Bowl that the Redskins should have won. Believe it or not the 1973-74 Dolphins were a better team that finished 15-2 with 3 easy post season wins.
The goal post upright probably cost the Redskins one touchdown on the Kilmer pass that hit it.
@@markgardner9460 The next Super Bowl Csonka rushed for a then record 145 yards and bulled his way into the end zone. In the AFC Championship almost knocked himself out running into the goalpost with 3 TDs. He was the under-rated Dolphin considering.
Miami won because they pretty much contained Larry Brown the whole afternoon thanks to Manny Fernandez
The 1972 team played no playoff teams during the season the 1973 team played the Raiders Cowboys and Steelers all made the playoffs and beat them during the season
The 1972 Dolphins only played 2 teams with winning records. The aging Chiefs with an 8 & 6 record and the Giants who also had an 8 & 6 record.
The Redskins won 11 of their first 12 games they lost the last 2 to Dallas and Buffalo when they had a playoff spot wrapped up
That's right. George Allen sat Larry Brown those last two games in order to rest him for the play-offs which resulted in O.J. Simpson winning the rushing title.
Hi Mark - have my sonny Jorgensen #9 Redskins white for this one…. Your my twin with the Red one
I wonder what other players' jerseys we have in common. I'm going to spring one in my next video that hasn't been shown in quite some time. It's one of my favorites, so we'll see if you have it or the companion jersey.
Verlon Biggs Redskins gamer was for sale on EBay - I also have a Larry Brown red tog like in the video
I've got to do a better job of keeping an eye out for that stuff. Thanks for the heads up!
Chris Hanberger “and Fries 🍟 😊😊😊
Want cheese on that, Chris?
An ancient team but they won like that for 4,5 years .
Experience is the best teacher they say. That squad didn't make too many mistakes.
George Allen brought half the 1969 Rams team with him when he came to Washington
Yes, because of a blockbuster trade
@@michaelleroy9281 no doubt .the 69 Rams only lost 1 game
Did Jack Pardee always look like he was like 50 or something ? Sometimes you see these old footage and everyone looks well " over the hill " I guess :) Maybe they smoked a lot of butts and drank and had jobs in a factory in the off-season. Maybe that's why everyone looked so old
His hair thinned prematurely. Even when he was young, he looked old.
No one looked older than Y.A. Tittle.
George Allen had a habit of trading Rookies and perferd veterans Washington lost SB 7 in 1973
George Allen liked veteran players over rookies because they don't make mistakes, yet Billy Kilmer threw 2 interceptions to Jake Scott in the Super Bowl
I wonder if Theismann ran a one bar at Notre Dame or just imitated Billy when he got to the Redskins.
I have a Sports Illustrated and he's donning a double bar facemask. I think all of the photos I've seen of him in college, he's wearing that.
@@markgardner9460 now what are the chances that a guy that has an SI that old might have some old Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazines layin' around? If you do, I envy you. The names that pop up on old high school teams are astounding.
Although I have a ton of baseball and football magazines, I do not have any Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazines. I love reading high school stats of players from the '60's and '70's though! I have a mountain of statistical notes and anecdotes, some of which will comprise an upcoming vudeo.
If the Redskins had continued to be a winning franchise during the Snyder era, I suspect Chief Two Guns White Calf would still be honored on the side of the helmet. Instead, losing, with an unlikeable owner, and hyper PC times, doomed the team's tradition. Now, all the virtuous managed to do was erase another reference to NA's. They could've changed it to the Potomacs (local tribe) and kept the imagery. FSU pays the Seminole Nation a buttload of cash and the SN has told all the do-gooders to stuff it if they don't like it.
Is it fair that Redskins had a soft spot for not so Athletic questionable sobriety type QB's Jurgenson- Kilmer?. They were certainly ready game day,and Entertaining. 😂😂😂
MacArthur “Park” Lane! 😮😮😮😮😊😊😊😊
He was 220 pounds and his backfield mate was John Brockington who weighed 225 pounds. Big backfield!
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@6:29, how the heck does the ref call that a TD?
I know. That was a total miss. He didn't even tap his second foot out of bounds, let alone in bounds.
Larry Brown sure got used up in a hurry .😢
They overused him, which us what he spoke about in his autobiography entitled "I'll Always Get Up". If a Head Coach had a big gun, he shot it as often as possible back in the day.
I can't help but notice how many highlights feature the NY Giants. That team was bad
Defensive End Jack Gregory made the Pro Bowl after his 18 1/2 sack season, but that was exactly half of the team's yearly total. They gave up 4.6 yards per carry which is not good, to your point.
I don’t feel your comments re: Pat Fischer are necessarily justified. I’ve watched lots of film on him and he was beaten constantly. Additionally, he was a DIRTY player. He’s not in HoF and there’s a reasons. Totally overrated.
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. He played 17 years in the NFL, made 3 Pro Bowl teams and one 1st team All-Pro, so he wasn't too bad.
Billy Kilmer threw some ugly looking passes, but this video shows not all of them were wobblers.
Yes, he along with Joe Kapp were knocked for their propensity of throwing "wounded ducks", but Kilmer came out looking fine in the video.