@@kookbrah640 im absolutely not hating on you man but sometimes it’s baffling to me how something can sound so good to one person but perhaps off beat to another. Either way I appreciate the perspective!
To me, this scene represents a form of reversion back to the most principle understanding of music for both characters. Here, both characters, Fletcher and Andrew, view music as art, as expression, as opposed to an objective format of glory and greatness. It shows how far they've both strayed away from what music actually is to many people, which is ironic considering the ending of the film.
Yes, thank you for writing what I was thinking. Each character in this moment separately understand, in his own way, maybe just on a subconscious level, that this is truly what it’s about.
There’s a beautiful duality with Fletcher in this scene. The sense of defeat because of his fall from grace at Shaffer and the quiet dignity of his overall love for music sitting in with a simple jazz quartet. A lot is happening in just 90 seconds here.
I think I can understand what Andrew is feeling towards the end of Fletcher's playing. As much as Andrew wanted to put jazz behind him after his interactions and experiences with Fletcher, his love for jazz was too great for him to ignore it completely. He looks past his "disdain" for Fletcher and just appreciates the music itself. The actor did such a great job in expressing the longing for getting back his passion. I really love this scene so much because of how I see myself in Andrew.
can’t really describe it, but J.K Simmons acts Fletcher’s character absolutely perfectly, so authentic and so consistent as a personality throughout the film it’s amazing
Heh, you know I thought the exact same thing initially, but thinking about it more, I think the purpose of this song is to shock the audience by showing a very soft, gentle side of Fletcher. It raises some interesting questions about his character. He's a huge asshole when he's "teaching" others how to play; he's chaotic, angry, and seems perpetually unhappy. But when he's actually playing music, he's calm, seems to be at peace, and looks happy. And so it raises the question of why he's devoted his life to teaching music rather than playing it. Also, his instrument is the piano, not the drums, despite his seeming obsession with the drums above all the other instruments in his band, fixating on absolute perfection from the drums - and yet he himself isn't a drummer. That's another little surprise mind-fuck for the audience.
Kanisto also, he didn’t nearly have enough players for a hard bop band, and the club probably didn’t let him play that. Also that audience didn’t seem like. The type to appreciate that kind of jazz
Lame? This is art in motion. And before you say it is easy to play, maybe it is if you’ve practiced for years, but as an experienced musician, I can tell you it’s more difficult than you’d think
I still don't know what this scene means. You know how Fletcher talked about soulless Starbuck jazz? Well it's exactly what he's playing there. So is this scene really clever, giving the realization that he's actually not the great jazz master he's pretending to be, or is it a really bad scene where the writers didn't realize they know nothing about jazz?
I'm only high-school level music geek, but what makes good jazz vs bad jazz?? I found the song here pleasant, if obviously not the white-knuckle performance Fletcher demands of his students.
The guy with the glasses reminds me of Miles Davis, which made me also interpret this setting as some strange universe of old Jazz musicians of the past that Fletcher got swept into after getting fired.
I want to play Piano like this. I said hello to Mr. Simmon on the Elevator on the set of "OZ", He had his Bike. JK is a good guy. I would love to work with him...
I love how this scene basically proves that Fletcher is a complete fraud. The guy who goes on about greatness and virtuosity, who basically abuses his students claiming that it's to push them towards being great, who strives for absolute perfection from those in the big bands he conducts... What does he play at his own gigs? This... Not bad music by any means, it's a pretty melody and easy to listen to, but it's downright mediocre, especially coming from him. It's something you'd hear on a "Starbucks jazz" album that he would decry only moments later. Makes me wonder if Fletcher is so interested in finding the next big jazz star because he knows he can never be great himself, and the anger he feels towards his students is simply him redirecting the anger he feels towards himself over his own failure
이곡을 기본적이고 단순하다고 말하는 사람들을 종종봅니다. 제 의견은 그렇지 않습니다. 특히 저 장면에 사운드 연출은 더더욱 쉽지 않아요. 단순해보이지만 음정도 박자도, 힘조절도 너무나 정교합니다. 솔직히 연주자들은 느끼실거에요. 그래서 플렛처가 이음악을 연주했던건 당연해보입니다. 이영화의 가장 좋아하는 장면과 음악입니다.
That’s probably the point. Here’s this gatekeeping, abusive hardass who takes it upon himself to determine who does and does not ‘deserve’ to do their art by seeing how well they meet his impossibly high and confusing standards. And his own art is… just okay. It’s a formative experience for many once they leave art school. It gives you perspective that you just don’t get within the four walls of the institution.
You notice how Fletcher is enjoying playing in this scene, and how Andrew barely is enjoying it in the movie? The thought that was running through my head throughout the entire movie was if you're not enjoying playing music, then you're not playing it right. it's that simple.
@@LeNguyen-yy6vr Los Angeles! Fight Club was filmed on location in Los Angeles, California. Filming also took place at Los Angeles Center Studios and 20th Century Fox Studios.
It's hilarious that when Fletcher plays his own music, he plays this lame-ass entry-level cocktail jazz. Yet another thing that the movie got completely wrong.
This movie is actually really accurate and intentional in how it portrays musical pieces if you decide to just stop being a smartass for more than an hour
That's the point. Fletcher is basically a fraud, he goes on about greatness and jazz is dying in this very same scene, and claims to be abusive for the sake of pushing students beyond what's expected of them, because he himself is a complete mediocrity reduced to playing the very music he so willingly decries just moments later. He knows deep down he can never be great himself, so he probably takes his anger towards his own failings out on his students, while lying to himself saying that he's trying to push them to be better and find the next great jazz musician
This honestly sounds like something that you see at Starbucks, I'm not going to lie a little disappointed from a movie that had such good choices for its major songs
This sound's fantastic. You're just close-minded to bossa nova and smooth jazz. Also the point of this song choice was to juxtapose Fletcher's character. Its purposely not technical, purposely chill. It was a fantastic choice
@@phillystevesteak6982 Nah, it's smooth jazz from decades ago. Jazz isn't dying, Fletcher is (and for that the movie gets it right). Fletcher isn't a genius, he's a conservative mediocre musician.
That's the whole point, Fletcher is a fraud. He constantly goes on about greatness and virtuosity, and this is what he plays at his gigs. Not bad music at all, but it's the very same music Fletcher would decry only moments after this with his "Starbucks jazz" comment, without even a hint of irony
The strange thing is this is not good jazz piano playing - it is poorly constructed and just polite cocktail piano. I don't think the guy who writes music for Chazelle's films understands jazz at all.
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Beginning shot with smooth guy wearing sunglasses - priceless
Details like that make scenes like this so good
Why? I don't debate it isn't, just want to hear your opinion.
Doesn’t make sense to me. Dimly lit club-why wear sunglasses?
oontur- mench He’s in the right mood or something?
Yeah, he looks like Miles Davis🎺
Imagine the bassplayer shouting at him "Not my tempo. Play slower!!"
Lmao
He'd get a piano thrown at him
Dude on the bongos deserves more recognition for this beauty
He wasn’t on tempo
@@kookbrah640 that's bossa Nova for you.
@@kookbrah640 im absolutely not hating on you man but sometimes it’s baffling to me how something can sound so good to one person but perhaps off beat to another. Either way I appreciate the perspective!
@@triple6mafiamafia it’s a joke. Reference to fletcher yelling not my tempo!
@@kookbrah640 ohhh shit. My bad haha. Great joke
To me, this scene represents a form of reversion back to the most principle understanding of music for both characters. Here, both characters, Fletcher and Andrew, view music as art, as expression, as opposed to an objective format of glory and greatness. It shows how far they've both strayed away from what music actually is to many people, which is ironic considering the ending of the film.
Who??
@@Max-bj3mi who are you ‘who?’ing
I think it was just a misrepresenting soundtrack from a classically trained musician with little understanding of jazz.
Yes, thank you for writing what I was thinking. Each character in this moment separately understand, in his own way, maybe just on a subconscious level, that this is truly what it’s about.
he felt guilt and shame AND confusión because he tough he ruined his career
The irony of Fletcher being such a hardass when teaching/conducting only to play the most basic coffee shop shit I've ever heard.
starbucks jazz
I would not call this basic lol
@@Jack-oh3omI read a musicians review of this movie online and he also pointed out this scene destroying all of fletchers credibility
@@AbdulGabagool83i mean it was JK Simmons playing and he’s an actor, not a musical virtuoso
@@rehobalint1100he is also a musician
I just wanna sit in this club and listen to this all night.....gorgeous!
DebsLuvsMusic that's what I feel
Jinny Hyojin Lee me too I love the atmosphere.
You can sit back with your eyes shut and listen to this. It’s beautiful.
NOT MY TEMPO
bruhh its literallly elevator music
I love how resentful neimann looks at the enjoyment fletcher's getting from his music
perhaps, someday i will be so smooth as the guy on glasses at the beggining of the shot
Nós 😢😅😂
Us 😢
I don't know why but he seems like he smells really good
There’s a beautiful duality with Fletcher in this scene. The sense of defeat because of his fall from grace at Shaffer and the quiet dignity of his overall love for music sitting in with a simple jazz quartet. A lot is happening in just 90 seconds here.
I think I can understand what Andrew is feeling towards the end of Fletcher's playing. As much as Andrew wanted to put jazz behind him after his interactions and experiences with Fletcher, his love for jazz was too great for him to ignore it completely. He looks past his "disdain" for Fletcher and just appreciates the music itself. The actor did such a great job in expressing the longing for getting back his passion. I really love this scene so much because of how I see myself in Andrew.
can’t really describe it, but J.K Simmons acts Fletcher’s character absolutely perfectly, so authentic and so consistent as a personality throughout the film it’s amazing
My only wish in life, is to be as smooth as the guy in sunglasses at the start
Cup of whiskey with a cigarette and peacefully listening to this at the venue is all I ask for.
Leave the bottle too.
*flips the piano*
WHAT PART OF NOT MY FUCKING TEMPO DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????!!!!!
Andrew: HOW DOES IT FEEL!!!!!
😂😂😂
WHAT WILL YOU PLAY AFTER 500 YEARS
Demands hard bop from his students, plays the lamest bossa nova tune on Earth.
Heh, you know I thought the exact same thing initially, but thinking about it more, I think the purpose of this song is to shock the audience by showing a very soft, gentle side of Fletcher. It raises some interesting questions about his character. He's a huge asshole when he's "teaching" others how to play; he's chaotic, angry, and seems perpetually unhappy. But when he's actually playing music, he's calm, seems to be at peace, and looks happy. And so it raises the question of why he's devoted his life to teaching music rather than playing it. Also, his instrument is the piano, not the drums, despite his seeming obsession with the drums above all the other instruments in his band, fixating on absolute perfection from the drums - and yet he himself isn't a drummer. That's another little surprise mind-fuck for the audience.
Kanisto also, he didn’t nearly have enough players for a hard bop band, and the club probably didn’t let him play that. Also that audience didn’t seem like. The type to appreciate that kind of jazz
LOL!!! Not exactly Art Tatum or Thelonious Monk eh, Mr. Terence Fletcher???
Adam Kent-Isaac My thoughts exactly
Lame? This is art in motion. And before you say it is easy to play, maybe it is if you’ve practiced for years, but as an experienced musician, I can tell you it’s more difficult than you’d think
Whenever I feel discouraged or lost in life, this is the scene I need for inspiration.
I really like the shot where the camera focuses on Fletchers hands playing the keys on the piano
I love this scene, and this song, so much. Damn.
Mr. Fletcher : He is too strict and cruel to other people, but gentle to himself.
That ending was so in the pocket
love how fletcher is fully playing starbucks jazz before going on a rant at how starbucks jazz is taking over the world for the worst
Best ending to a jazz song I’ve heard in a while
It wasn’t spicy enough for my taste
not quite my tempo
I love this song so much
I demand a long improvised version.
The name of the song is "Fletcher's Song In Club" by Justin Hurwitz
이 연주 너무 좋아 귀가 녹아 내린다 황홀해
this is my favorite part !!
Right on man
soft caressness to the heart
One of my favorite movies ever
Not quite my tempo
That Ab at 0:55 is definitely off tune. That would've given Fletcher a heart attack right there.
THEN WHY THE FREAK DIDN'T YOU SAY SO?!
Dudes in these comments think once you become a professional musician you can’t enjoy simple music
im in love with the film and the song ❤
I still don't know what this scene means. You know how Fletcher talked about soulless Starbuck jazz? Well it's exactly what he's playing there. So is this scene really clever, giving the realization that he's actually not the great jazz master he's pretending to be, or is it a really bad scene where the writers didn't realize they know nothing about jazz?
i think its a good scene. the writters arent that dumb and clearly have some musical literacy and knowledge
I'm only high-school level music geek, but what makes good jazz vs bad jazz?? I found the song here pleasant, if obviously not the white-knuckle performance Fletcher demands of his students.
This is clearly not "starbucks jazz"
@@truestorytyp haha, good joke
@@truestorytyp im a jazz pianist. it is.
beautiful scene
The guy with the glasses reminds me of Miles Davis, which made me also interpret this setting as some strange universe of old Jazz musicians of the past that Fletcher got swept into after getting fired.
I love this song....... It reminds me of a 1950s , Blue Note, simplified, toned down, shorter version of Joe Sample Ashes to Ashes.
after listening to that beautiful piece, i'd wanna buy him a drink 🍺
I want to play Piano like this. I said hello to Mr. Simmon on the Elevator on the set of "OZ", He had his Bike. JK is a good guy. I would love to work with him...
you know you did good when a guy in a jazz bar calls out "right on man"
he bullied andrew because of the incorrectly fast tempo but he actually play slow tempo's song
“Right on, man”
0:03 miles davis
What?
Who?
영화를 보다가 수십번은 돌려서 들었던...
I love how this scene basically proves that Fletcher is a complete fraud. The guy who goes on about greatness and virtuosity, who basically abuses his students claiming that it's to push them towards being great, who strives for absolute perfection from those in the big bands he conducts... What does he play at his own gigs? This... Not bad music by any means, it's a pretty melody and easy to listen to, but it's downright mediocre, especially coming from him. It's something you'd hear on a "Starbucks jazz" album that he would decry only moments later. Makes me wonder if Fletcher is so interested in finding the next big jazz star because he knows he can never be great himself, and the anger he feels towards his students is simply him redirecting the anger he feels towards himself over his own failure
Simple, his body can't keep up with his mind.
kind of sounds like blue in green by miles davis which is funny given the color grade in this scene
Bless you sunglasses man.
0:01 isn't he that bassist who saves his career?
이곡을 기본적이고 단순하다고 말하는 사람들을 종종봅니다.
제 의견은 그렇지 않습니다.
특히 저 장면에 사운드 연출은 더더욱 쉽지 않아요.
단순해보이지만 음정도 박자도, 힘조절도 너무나 정교합니다. 솔직히 연주자들은 느끼실거에요.
그래서 플렛처가 이음악을 연주했던건 당연해보입니다.
이영화의 가장 좋아하는 장면과 음악입니다.
Awesome
악마의 달콤한 속삭임. 악마의 뜨거운 숨결.
교수의 모순된 성격을 피아노 짧은 피아노연주로 표현한것같음. 이장면 너무좋다.
Simple, beautiful, memories
Мощнейший фильм, и трек огонь 👏
me touches this song in a concert
Reminds me of Miles Davis' Blue in Green.
me too
I've seen jazz heads tear this scene to shreds as the dullest jazz ever.
That’s probably the point. Here’s this gatekeeping, abusive hardass who takes it upon himself to determine who does and does not ‘deserve’ to do their art by seeing how well they meet his impossibly high and confusing standards. And his own art is… just okay.
It’s a formative experience for many once they leave art school. It gives you perspective that you just don’t get within the four walls of the institution.
@@Victoria-ty9qv That would be nice, but I think it was meant to be impressive.
Who gives a shit what jazz heads think.. They dont have any special authority on what constitues good jazz music.
This song is a fusion of bossa nova and cool jazz I think
A little trouble there
Right on man.
리듬 느낌 jazz의 모든것
Right on, baby
The piano kind of reminds me of a song in a Final Fantasy game.
Besaid by Masashi Hamauzu
Fletcher was Rushing
Blue in green
Starbucks Jazz
This reminds me of In the Sign of Libra
Un ritmo exquisito
me encanta
So if Andrew didn’t happen to walk into the club that night and see Fletcher, would the whole last scene not have happened?
Glasses guy cool
Well, THAT was how you call your self music
You notice how Fletcher is enjoying playing in this scene, and how Andrew barely is enjoying it in the movie? The thought that was running through my head throughout the entire movie was if you're not enjoying playing music, then you're not playing it right. it's that simple.
Ya like jazz?
Is this the end of the movie? Isn’t fletcher fired?
Pretty close to the end but there's a more important story after this.
hay un guiño a Green in blue de miles davis?
nombre de la melodia porfavor
“Fletchers song in club”justin hurwitz
Where is the club where the fletcher plays the piano in whiplash?
fightclub
@@anythingstudio5208 Thank you so much. But in real life where is this club?
@@LeNguyen-yy6vr Los Angeles!
Fight Club was filmed on location in Los Angeles, California. Filming also took place at Los Angeles Center Studios and 20th Century Fox Studios.
@@anythingstudio5208 thank god when you let me know that. That amazing and thank you so much!
@@LeNguyen-yy6vrI'm Kidding bro, that's not the real address, you khờ vkl
Anyone know what kind of bass that is, at 0:43 ? Very unusual shape, never seen another one like it.
Double bass
Good job, Jeff bezos
One problem Fletcher. Not my tempo.
Wasnt there a song that used this tune? I cant find it help
anyone know the name of this club
yawwwwwnnnnnnn
Is this piano song impromptu? I'm sooooo curious!!
When the males made his student kill himself:
this is so funny if you actually play jazz mr elitist music man playing babys first piano solo in a live gig 🤣
Hate Fletcher but that was fucking beautiful
Is this jazz. If so what type of jazz
Soft jazz probably
What's the name of this song?
What genre of Jazz is this?
Kinda late but im guessing its like a slow bossa nova maybe? Ill look into it
It’s slow late night jazz
Song name?
Imagine having your drumming self-esteem destroyed by a piano player who plays such basic ahh solos.
0o
Sadly not my tempo
It's hilarious that when Fletcher plays his own music, he plays this lame-ass entry-level cocktail jazz. Yet another thing that the movie got completely wrong.
I think thats the point.. those who cant do, teach.
@@UrbanNinja1497 Agreed.
@@UrbanNinja1497 then how are they able to teach at all, if they don't have something to share?
What else does the movie get wrong?
This movie is actually really accurate and intentional in how it portrays musical pieces if you decide to just stop being a smartass for more than an hour
Not my fucking tempo
I have always been annoyed with the elevator music they had him play. This .an would be playing shit that was barely recognizeable as music
That's the point. Fletcher is basically a fraud, he goes on about greatness and jazz is dying in this very same scene, and claims to be abusive for the sake of pushing students beyond what's expected of them, because he himself is a complete mediocrity reduced to playing the very music he so willingly decries just moments later. He knows deep down he can never be great himself, so he probably takes his anger towards his own failings out on his students, while lying to himself saying that he's trying to push them to be better and find the next great jazz musician
This honestly sounds like something that you see at Starbucks, I'm not going to lie a little disappointed from a movie that had such good choices for its major songs
This sound's fantastic. You're just close-minded to bossa nova and smooth jazz. Also the point of this song choice was to juxtapose Fletcher's character. Its purposely not technical, purposely chill. It was a fantastic choice
@@phillystevesteak6982 agree
@@phillystevesteak6982 Nah, it's smooth jazz from decades ago. Jazz isn't dying, Fletcher is (and for that the movie gets it right). Fletcher isn't a genius, he's a conservative mediocre musician.
That's the whole point, Fletcher is a fraud. He constantly goes on about greatness and virtuosity, and this is what he plays at his gigs. Not bad music at all, but it's the very same music Fletcher would decry only moments after this with his "Starbucks jazz" comment, without even a hint of irony
The strange thing is this is not good jazz piano playing - it is poorly constructed and just polite cocktail piano. I don't think the guy who writes music for Chazelle's films understands jazz at all.
I don’t think this was meant to be straight up jazz in this scene
It’s not the best jazz piano playing but it’s not bad either. I like this song.