OP is a freaking idiot for not wanting police that that psychotic bitch was trying to take her child. I was hoping to hear she punched her so hard, she wouldn’t be able to look in the mirror forever, but nope. You lost that chance, OP. >:(
Because kidnapping is a felony, and an acceptable use for deploying a firearm is preventing a felony from being committed, you can absolutely draw a gun on a Karen for touching your baby
Story 2: Karen: That girl's baby is so small, I tried to save him. Me: Karen, I think the word you're searching for is..."KIDNAP". You tried to kidnap him.
@@Some_Guy6 And yet women are the ones that kidnap more children and babies than men. A man might do it for a wife or girlfriend, but a woman always claims to be "saving the child".
Story 2: ALWAYS press charges against a kidnapping Karen. Just because she wasn't successful in stealing *your* baby does not mean she hasn't tried stealing other people's babies or will continue trying to steal babies.
Story 4: Attempting to not just "replace" the mom, but erase any connection from her while disguising said actions as "She does not love you anymore" is a testament to the level of narcissism that the Step-Mom has. This is often stuff that abusers do. They attempt to isolate the victim. Story 5: And this one was fueled by racism. That's even worse. Yeah, the circumstances are a bit different, but still.
Been there, unfortunately. My stepmother actually forced me to call my mother and while glaring at me, made me tell my mother I never wanted to see her again. I can tell you, I never forgave that woman for all of the mental anguish she put me through over the years, and the only thing I can say is that I am glad she is dead and buried. She was the most evil person in my life that I can ever remember. Luckily, once I was out on my own, my mother and I reconnected, and our relationship got better over the years (as she knew I had been forced into telling her what I did).
@@AurizenDarkstar Wow I'm so sorry your step-monster put you through that. There's a special place in Hell for her and others who do evil things towards kids so I hope she's burning down there and I hope she's writhing in pain.
I wonder what would have happened if Karen tried to defend herself by saying that OP kidnapped her son and she was just trying to get him back? The answer: "Why don't we look at the video footage to see if you're telling the truth?"
Wrong! Support her to call the police first. After they arrive, then you say, "Why don't we look at the video footage to see if you're telling the truth?" 😅
Im quit impacient with children, so i would've Just puncht the Kid Back after He didn't Stop punching It could get me Into some legal stuff, but it wouldn't BE illigal were i live
*Story 4:* What OP went through actually has a more specific name. When you restrict someone's freedom of movement to a single building/area & prevent them from contacting certain people, that is called false imprisonment. Its considered a type of kidnapping. If your boss has ever stood in front of the door and prevented you from clocking out of work and leaving, that is considered false imprisonment too.
I was born premature and was very small, and I'm still small for average at 17. That woman saying the baby is underfed for being a CLEAR PREEMIE is insane!
Same. My mom was dilating at 5 months, she had to take meds to prolong the pregnancy and I was still born weeks early. I was always small, and rn I'm just exactly the average size because my mom went with me to all sorts of doctors since I wasn't growing the amount I should as a kid. And seriously, malnourished babies look way different than premature ones; that woman has the vision of a blind mole, she should get some glasses.
@@gabrielabatista6016 Oh wow! My story was my blood type was different than my mom's, so her body was going to attack and kill me unless I was born early
Story 5: I can almost guarantee that they did get the message about not visiting OP. That's why they came over when they did and said all of those things. They knew that she wouldn't be able to do anything.
@@alexandriav3956 it honestly could have been as this type of stuff happens a lot in TX when dealing with interrace marriages or those who are minority's
Or shoot Karen. She definitely can't hurt anyone else if she's dead. If shooting is not possible, remove her from this Earth by any means available/necessary. If it's one thing the average person will take someone's life over it's their children
Story 6: NO FLUFF! If she had called the cops because of him putting hands on her son that would be one thing. But she tried to get him arrested for kidnapping HIS OWN DAUGHTER! So no, her calling the cops is NOT understandable.
Yeah totally agree, ok he probably shouldn't have touched the son but it's not really a police matter and if you did want to escalate it to a police matter you make it solely about that, you don't accuse him of kidnapping a 4 yo kid.
Totally agreed she a racist and no offense I love Princess Peach more than Mario and Luigi heck I even dress up as her and the dad is right tht kid could gotten hurt
Exactly. Not to mention that all he did was move her son, she literally grabbed his daughter and wouldn't let go even after she said "let go". It made me upset because it sounded like Fluff is making excuses for the woman when the entire reason she called the cops was because she's a bigot.
@@FoxxyFire-HellFrost Fluff was hardly making excuses for that Karen, he was just acknowledging that the OP shouldn’t have handled the Karen’s son like that. I can also very easily see that event being the moment that made her rage peak to the point that she actually decided to call the cops, whereas before she would likely be upset but not call the cops. Getting offended is what makes Karens get so mad, and OP picking up her kid to get him off the slide would absolutely offend her and make her want to bring up the issue again.
Fourth story: The moment I heard the letters and phone calls stopped I knew whst the step monster did. And yes, the father don't knowing what his wife did is the most obvious BS I ever heard.
Okay, treating an infant like it is a doll and then implying that the child would be in better care with them would be the first time I feel that violence is justified when no one has gotten physical yet. Get the child out of their possession, and then teach them a very important lesson.
Nothing worse than a jealous, vindictive, spiteful Karen for a step mum. I had letters stolen too. I thought the other half of my family didn't care about me any more. I ended up in foster care. Social services didn't help me find them either. Instead I got a religious, ignorant, holier than thou Karen foster mum. Out of the trying pan, into the fire. If anyone else out there is going thru this at the moment, STAY STRONG! You WILL get through it! ❤
I was a young mum and the amount of older women trying to tell you how to raise your child is astonishing, I had to tell one or two off but if one had grabbed my stroller I’d have walloped Karen then called the police
Last story. Karen better be glad she was dealing with dad and not mom. If it had been mom, Karen wouldn't have needed the cops, she'd be needing an ambulance.
Dud if that was me in the first story I'd of screamed "GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY CHILD" as loud as my lungs would let me. You DO NOT touch someone's thing, pets or CHILDREN without explicit permission.
Needing to touch a child to prevent injury, is the OBVIOUS exception. His child was coming down the slide! It would be inexcusable to ALLOW a child to be hurt!
Dark Fluff, in the last story she did not call the cops because he was removing her son from a possibly dangerous situation on the slide, she called to have him arrested for "kidnapping" his own daughter. If the call was about her own son, he more than likely have been arrested for it as you don't touch another's child in a non-emergency situation.
Story 3 - OP should pick up outdoor security cameras. If she's willing to let her kid attack OP for no reason, there's a good chance she'll try and get revenge for getting her kicked out, probably petty vandalism but better safe than sorry with an entitled person like her.
Last story: No, Karen didn't call the cops because OP lifted her son off the slide. She called because she thought the child wasn't OP's. She was just trying to force her will on whomever she pleases. OP should not have lifted the child up, but the cops heard nothing of that.
His daughter was just about to go down the slide when the kid ran up it. So, if he was trying to protect his daughter, he had every right to pick him up off the slide. (The kid may not have hurt her, but he seemed to be entitled, so who knows how far up the slide he'd have gone? And who knows if he'd have stepped on the little girl or not. It didn't say how old the boy was. But the little girl was only 4. )
@@HuskerGram There is no evidence he would have hit O.P's daughter and climbing a slide is really common behavior on playgrounds (like every kid does it from time to time). O.P. had no right to touch him, , O.P. could have let the kids try to resolve it themselves. Usually if a kid is being a tool on a slide for too long, the kid at the top will just ram into them (with gusto) and they quickly learn that standing in the way on a slide isn't such a great idea). O.P. could have asked the mother to move the kid (though I'm almost certain the mother wouldn't have cooperated lol) or they could have just left. When I was little and a kid blocked the slide and being a tool about it the adult who was with us would usually say "just go, if they don't want to move that's their problem, they'll move next time". Of course this only applied if the kid was old enough to know better.
@@HuskerGram That's what I was thinking too, when it was commented that OP shouldn't have picked up the boy, that he was in the right to do so as it was in defense of his daughter. One or both of the kids could've been hurt because of what the boy was doing, and I think we all know that Karen wasn't going to do the right thing and deal with her kid herself.
The thing that really bugged me was when the Karen grabbed his daughter he didn’t do anything. The DAUGHTER fought to get away from her and the OP just let the Karen hold her and harass her. Then they STAYED AT THE PLAYGROUND while the Karen was still there????? I can guarantee that if that was my daughter that Karen would regret laying her hands on her or talking to her like that, at the very least I would have called the police.
Story#4: This happened to my daughter. Two of her kids stayed with their dad and when he remarried their step mom started throwing out all the letters and gifts my daughter sent them, telling them she just didn't care about them anymore. It has taken years now that they are grown up for the rest of our side of the family to convince them she lied. Very sad! 😵😭
Proper way there is no proper way to raise a baby. There are dues and don’ts. My blood is boiling as well put the baby down and get out of the freaking house, and you were never welcome in it again after that behavior.
Fifth story: The in-laws should consider themselves lucky that OP doesn't call the cops on them for trespassing, unlawful entry(as they weren't welcome in), and attempt of kidnapping. The trespassing and the unlawful entry charge would only see them get escorted off the property, but the attempt of kidnapping would land them in jail.
3rd story, OP honestly needs to call CPS at that point. I remember you posted the first story with the kid trying to stab his dog. The mother is completely unfit and the child is gonna grow up a psychopath if left in her care.
S2: Seriously even as a new mom she should have been more protective of her kid when it comes to strangers. I use to have complete strangers asking if they could hold my newborn and I told them hell no. My baby isn’t a bloody puppy. They actually looked at me like asked the stupid question of a complete stranger.
I’ve never put my hands on a woman in anger, but anybody tries to grab my child they’re gonna get their face rearranged. My child is more important than that! The cops would have to come and pick this woman up in pieces.
The second story reminds me of my own encounter. I had a high risk pregnancy as well and even though my son was full term he had been born very small due to his body not getting what it needed in the womb. Also at 2 days old he developed meningitis and was refusing feeds and was then put on tube feeding. So 2 weeks later after he was released from intensive care I took him to the supermarket. In the car park an older woman approached me with a smile, I assume to admire the baby. She said an abrupt hello to me and lent into the stroller. All of her sudden her smile froze and she said in baby talk still leaning in to my baby "you are very small, mummy needs to feed you doesn't she". My son upon having a strange lady leaning over him starts to cry. She says, "Yes darling, I know your hungry". She then stood up and glared at me. "I think you should take your son home and feed him". All I could mumble was he was born small. I then made a beeline for the supermarket. Luckily she didn't stop me, but she did follow me around briefly until I was able to loose her. From that point on I made an effort to have my husband with me.
Story #1: The second she asked if OP knew how to feed her own kid, I would have been gone. Stand up and put some space between her and me. I'm not a mother but I wouldn't want someone like that near me. (And yes, I know the tone makes a difference but being safe is what I think is best?)
Last story: Do Karens know that there are all sorts of family in existence? You don't need to look like your parents. You could be adopted. Your parents could be of different races. Your parents could be of the same race with different skin tones. Even siblings of the same parents can have different features...even blood groups...shocking right?
Yeah, my backwards grandfather didn't understand that and thought half of his own kids weren't his own! The family was mixed Cherokee and Irish, so half of their 7 kids were blonde with blue eyes, and the rest were dark-skinned with brown or black hair. My mom said he constantly accused my grandmother of cheating on him!
My daughter had numerous medical issues as a baby and I was extremely grateful that I had background medical knowledge gained from being a Registered Nurse. By the time she was almost a year old, we were coping well, with her medical needs, however, she was extremely small for her age, but other than that, no one would have known that there was anything wrong. I’d had to return to work, but she was extremely well taken care of by my Mom. Every Wednesday morning, my Mom would take her & my 3 year old to a ‘Parent and toddler session’ at the church hall. Now my baby’s 1st birthday was on a Wednesday, so I took leave from work, to spend the day with both of my children. I’d never been to this group before, but we went in & I settled down on the floor with my two daughters and some toys. I’d got the baby sitting on my lap and my 3 year old was playing with other children & then coming back to me. For a while, everything was fine and then I heard, someone shouting ‘what do you think you’re doing!!!’ As I was happily playing with my daughters, I didn’t think it referred to me!!! Suddenly, someone grabbed my arm & pulled me round!!! This woman’s face appeared & she said ‘give her to me!! You’re holding her all wrong!!’ With that, she tried to grab my baby!! I said ‘leave her alone!’ She shouted ‘a baby that age, shouldn’t be sat up, you’ll damage her spine!’ I said ‘for your information, she’s one, so plenty old enough, to be sat up!’ The Karen looked at me and started to laugh, saying ‘don’t be so ridiculous, if she’s 6 weeks, it’s all she is, people like you, shouldn’t have children, if you don’t know how to look after them!’ I started to collect our things together, as I didn’t want her birthday ruined. As I stood up, Karen snapped ‘watch her head, don’t you know anything?!’ Right on cue, the door from the kitchen opened and the organisers came out, carrying a birthday cake with one candle and start singing ‘happy birthday’ to my daughter!!!! The Karen’s face was an absolute picture, her mouth kept opening and closing & no sound was coming out, as she turned a strange colour!! As we were eating cake, she once more came over and said ‘you should have told me, that your baby had medical problems!!!’ I slowly turned & said ‘my baby’s health has absolutely nothing to do with you!!! Now please go away and leave us alone!!!’ She scuttled off & we had a wonderful day!!!
Halftime Isolation: So while kidnapping doesn't entirely fit, it does especially coupled with parental alienation. OP it's better than me, I would've cut contact with Dad and Step Kidnapper.
If I ever have kids, I swear imma be an absolute papa bear/ protector on anyone who tries to give my kids or future wife trouble If a Karen tried to take my kid I would have been using alot of self restraint to try avoid throwing punches and honestly even then I'd be throwing a good verbal bashing her way
My wife and I were waiting for a bus and this old woman came to use and was offering to buy our baby and I got so pissed off and told her you have a few seconds to run and make sure your running fast enough for your feet to hit your ass because I’ll chase you and make sure to bring you to the cop station for what you offered me for my baby. I never seen a 60 some year old run so fast.
Some people haven't had a well deserved smack down and it shows. Anyone dumb enough to grab at a baby definitely deserved to have a momma bear mauling. It's a great attitude adjuster.
That kid (that was hitting OP & saying they didn't like OP) is going to grow up, and someday really hurt someone badly. OP should be calling CPS on his neighbor (or talk to the kids father).
"Not the worst thing she's done"? She falsely accused someone of attempting to abduct her child. If that had been taken seriously and no one was able to refute her claims, that could have been devastating. Even without a conviction, it could have meant court and a tarnished reputation. If that's not the worst thing she's done, I would hate to see what the actual worst thing is.
I have several black belts I taught my daughters how to fight n defend themselves , my oldest broke another students nose on the bus when he kept poking her in the back w a pencil after she warned him to stop n she broke someone arm when they grabbed her !!!
To be fair, there are plenty of parents out there who think that simply being the mother of the child magically makes them know all about how to take care of a child, when in reality, they have no idea. My sister-in-law is a perfect example of this. She's convinced herself she's a great mother, and knows better then others, including my mom who has five kids, three of which are grown adults and the last two are teenagers, where she only has one and she's only 2 and half at this point. The problem is, everytime she does make a few mistakes, which she does because she don't know what she's doing, and others try and help her out, for the child's sake, she gets's super annoyed because she's supposed to know better, being a recent mother where others have adult kids and have more experience. SHe even accuses other of saying she's a bad mom, when no one has actually said that, and it's simply her own insecurity.
My son is due next week; I'm a wheelchair user. As much as I look forward to taking him on walks, to the park, out in public in general - I'm terrified of instances like this. I've seen so many stories about disabled people, infants, and interracial couples being Karen's favorite targets, and my family is the trifecta. Between hearing things like this and "they can't be your child because you're white/not white," I've literally begged my husband to carry a copy of his birth certificate on him at all times. (I plan on doing the same). Better to be safe than be without my child.
I strongly suggest pepper spray, pocket knife, loud alarm/whistle, hell even something that gives you reach to smack them. You might never need them but good to have if the situation arises.
22:36 Nope. The boy running up the slide was posing a safety hazard for both him and his daughter. It is perfectly fine to grab a child out of this situation and set it on the ground. To the contrary, not doing so and something happens to that child is making you partially responsible when something happens in this situation. In this case if the boy slipped, fell face first onto the slide and broke his nose/chipped some teeth OP would be in part responsible because he did not prevent an obvious accident. Hell a strong wind from the side could have led to the boy falling sideways off the slide and breaking his neck. Little boys *always* think they are stronger and/or more stable than they actually are. Little girls "only" are a majority, but not all of them. He did violate the "Don't go against Karens demands!" code, but legally he was totally in the right by even doing a commendable action.
Story #2: I wouldn't have asked, I would have called the police as I ran to the scene!!! I would have also told the EM that she wasn't going anywhere until she was arrested for Kidnapping!!!!!!!!
My brother and sister-in-law adopted a baby from Ethiopia days after he turned a year old. He is black while my brother and wife are white. No matter his color or bloodline, he is family and every single one of us (3 uncles, 1 aunt, tons of younger cousins and siblings and 2 adult cousins) would give our life for him. Color doesn't matter in our eyes. Love is thicker than blood.
Oh hell nah, I would have been throwing hands if a Karen so much as touched my child without permission, let alone taking them out if their stroller! Karen would have been breathing and eating through a tube for months after I got done with her! My wheelchair-bound cousin taught me how to fight, and he taught me to ALWAYS fight dirty if me or my children are threatened by a stranger. I go for the eyes, throat, knees, and groin (if my assailant is male). Karen had better keep her hands to herself with me and mine, unless she wants to lose them!
Yes! I'm surprised anyone would put up with grabbing for their kid. Some parents, especially new mothers can be absolutely feral when it comes to their kids and rightfully so.
Umm...you know that level of response would land you in prison? What happens to your child then? Not saying you shouldn't protect your child, but your post indicates you are a braggart or a psychopath.
@@bcaye um the law and precedent would disagree with you completely. If someone attempts to kidnap your child and you defend your child you will get off of all charges. The only caveat being that your actions cannot be malicious. Meaning you cannot cause harm to the abductor beyond what is necessary to protect your child (which is an incredible gray area). And in a case where a mother or father is defending their child the court will generally rule in favor of the parent. These cases are incredibly rare to actually go to court with the abductor suing as the abductor would have to acknowledge they did indeed touch the child. It’s also considered one of the last fully standing temporary insanity pleas. This is why you never touch someone else’s child without the parent’s permission. The courts will never hear you out unless the child was in immediate danger. The child could be loud obnoxious and hitting other kids and you still cannot touch that child. Entitled parents that know this use it to their advantage.
Someone tried to take my baby. I had my 2 week old unstrapped in his carseat as I had just set him in and I was getting money from the atm. Lady asks to see my baby. I told her no. And she literally snatched him. My twin happened to be coming out of the restroom (we were at the mall) and being the protective auntie she is she barreled over and wrenched my son from her and full on SLAPPED the woman. 😂 the lady tried to call the cops but witnesses told them what she did and she was arrested 😂 serves her right.
Moving the kid safely off the slide is normal decent behavior for those of us who are 50 plus for certain... Its preventing a child from being injured, and setting the child safely down immediately to go play or go to their guardian... Holding another child aloft, insisting she's been kidnapped because Karen is racist and doesn't believe mixed blood kids can look more like one parent is insane.
I am listening to the story w/OP-in-stitches and have only gotten to the part where SIL is saying baby would be better off w/SIL....aaaaaannnnndddd, I am trying to stop MYSELF from reaching for the phone & calling police!
I’m fairly certain story #5 about the baby being light skinned wasn’t in the US. I remember hearing a similar story that took place somewhere in South America I believe, where they favored light skinned people with colored eyes.
no one is allowed to touch a stranger's pram, or even touch a baby without parents permission. I would have called the police myself. Why doesn't those Karen's never learn
Story 1: the correct approach the stranger should have done would be ask if op needs any help and maybe offer a silly story of her own kids being distracted while eating, then leave op alone Friendly conversation, no assumption or belittling, just trying to be kind and backing off when told no
I'm a mum of 5 and I have seen so many people who won't tell their child to not climb the slide the wrong way so I think op was right for moving the child as only obvious that even if you asked politely to speak to there child Karren would cause drama anyway
Those first two stories. Were anyone to try that when my daughter was but a wee lass (she's 30 now), you can bet hands and punches would be thrown and teeth swallowed. Same if it were my nieces and nephews.
Oh No! The story with the woman recovering from the birth of her child??? Why didn't the mother slam the door in the MIL and SIL's face. If they didn't leave, I'd call the cops AND press charges....whatever I could get on them! Especially after they tried to convince the mother to hand her child over. FYI: my mom would have been standing there cleaning her shotgun if it were me that was recovering. No lie!
2nd story with the premature baby - would that really be attempted kidnapping? I'd absolutely call the police. I'm not even sure what I'd say to dispatch or what complaint I could file or what actual crime the offender could be charged with... but I'd be finding out from the cops that showed up because I freakin' called them!
But Karen didn't call the cops bc he lifted her child. Her reaction was to snatch up HIS child. Making them both wrong for putting hands on kids that aren't theirs. She then calls the cops bc she wasn't getting her way when she was trying to convince the daughter he wasnt her father.
Last story, exactly, op shouldn't have touched the kid, let him get hurt when someone else goes down the slide, nothing like first hand experience to teach a lesson
About the first two stories, why in the world did the two attacked moms didn’t call the police?!? Those crazy ‘Karens’ will certainly do the same s**t to someone else for sure! When facing crazy people like those two, it’s the only thing to do.
I’m a father to a little girl and I’m usually very docile and will avoid violence. But if anyone tries to take my baby without my permission, all bets are off.
When my son was born my wife went and got her CCW. Around the time he was born lots of kids were getting kidnapped. She would kill anyone that threatened his safety.
I'm always amazed how many people in the U.S. feel entitled to even try and touch another person's baby. I haven't heard of that in any other country. What kind of monster tries to take another person's baby just because?!
It may be because I am the daughter of a mother bear, and although I am not a mother, I have the same mother bear instincts towards my little cousins, (there is almost 20 years of difference between the cousin who is next in age to my sister and me) and the mothers in those stories, that the mother automatically does not protest, she roars, screams, defends her baby... the mother in the second story recovers her voice and what happens when the matter was resolved, if the girl had not spoken they would have taken her away. to her baby and her still trying to know what's going on there? not an immediate retort of: no, that's my baby, a stranger had time to intervene, the little girl spoke... my god, and in fact, Darkfluff is right, that is a very common modus operandi; They create a scandal and in the middle of it they take the baby away while the crowd detains the mother, believing her to be the kidnapper... I would have filed a complaint, and let her endure the consequences, better for her than the mother and the baby. In other cases the only proof they have are random photographs on the phone, something that with basic knowledge and a good program can be falsified. My mother carried with her for years in her purse a certified copy of our birth certificates when she went out with us, even when park Personally, in a situation like this, or any other, they ask me if I want to press charges, I say yes. Behavior that has no consequences tends to be repeated. I have lived my life surrounded by entitled people, Karens and Kevins, and the only thing that dissuaded them from continuing with their attacks was repeating themselves to be respected. , is knowing that I will not be passive, that I will always take the appropriate actions without fear of what they will say. that I never attack, but I am not the one who takes the high road, I am one of those who kills the snake by the head, and that although I never start fights, I finish them
No. The Karen in that last story should have just said "Put my son down." and then walked off. Calling the police was the thing she did that was wrong. The guy was trying to keep his daughter safe, and the kid in all honesty. His mother would have been screaming louder if the girl went down the slide with him on it and knocked him off. She was a monster, needed to take her kid and leave, or teach him manners (of course, that's expecting too much since she didn't have manners either.) I'm sad for her son, he's going to have a hard life with a mom who teaches him to be just as entitled as she seems to think she is.
Fifth story: I see clearly what they wanted, total freedom with the baby and the mother unable to fight back. Edit: The moment I heard them wanting to take the baby that's the moment to bring a shotgun.
If a child is going to get hurt, and the parent isn't stopping them, then you absolutely should remove the child from danger. That's all OP did in the past story.
That comment made about the young mom not being able "to cope" seriously boils my blood. People still say that I couldn't cope with my son when he was little and I had very few issues with him at all.
For story 3 with the punch happy mini karen crotch spawn, if I was OP I would have asked the security person if I can get a statement/incident report from them. Then go to the cops and get a restraining order for the woman and her kid. I would also call CPS and report that Karen is putting her in dangerous situations as she is encouraging him to attack people that Karen doesn't like and then also include about how the kid stabbed OP's dog. CPS would be out quick for a surprise inspection and interview of Karen's family and neighbors.
@@miciso666 WAY too nice. If she's not taking care of her child hoe she should and she's basically raising him to be a psychopath, she shouldn't be in custody of the child. The kid will grow up in prison cause he'll just attack everyone he doesn't like
It's beyond stupid to not call police. She most definitely will try and take someone else's baby.
Agreed
She would need an ambulance! I would need a lawyer
@@peekaboo21284 Yep, same! And she'd need some major dental reconstruction! 😡
Agreed ! and she would also need to have major surgery! 😡
OP is a freaking idiot for not wanting police that that psychotic bitch was trying to take her child. I was hoping to hear she punched her so hard, she wouldn’t be able to look in the mirror forever, but nope. You lost that chance, OP. >:(
Story 1: if she was unbuckling your baby and is a complete stranger, accuse her of being a kidnapper
Because kidnapping is a felony, and an acceptable use for deploying a firearm is preventing a felony from being committed, you can absolutely draw a gun on a Karen for touching your baby
@@wyattben123 I won't need a Firearm. I have No Problem to Punch or Kick Kidnappers.
Story 2: Karen: That girl's baby is so small, I tried to save him.
Me: Karen, I think the word you're searching for is..."KIDNAP". You tried to kidnap him.
It's still quite a taboo if a woman does stuff like that.
@@Some_Guy6 Yeah cause ME TOO and all that faggery!
@@Some_Guy6 And yet women are the ones that kidnap more children and babies than men. A man might do it for a wife or girlfriend, but a woman always claims to be "saving the child".
You are damn right
Those karens are actually not just simply dumb or entitled. Some are evil. Always press charges against those monsters
Story 2: ALWAYS press charges against a kidnapping Karen. Just because she wasn't successful in stealing *your* baby does not mean she hasn't tried stealing other people's babies or will continue trying to steal babies.
On that particular case, making Karen unalive is definitely an option too. Messing with people's kids is a number one reason to make anyone unalive.
If you don't press charges they get away with it. Your lucky they weren't sucessful, but maybe next time...
The lady who tried to take OP’s premature son…how do we even know that woman’s daughter is really her real kid?
Good point maybe she was just another baby she "saved" from a mother that she thought was feeding them right or any other delusions she may have.
Story 4: Attempting to not just "replace" the mom, but erase any connection from her while disguising said actions as "She does not love you anymore" is a testament to the level of narcissism that the Step-Mom has.
This is often stuff that abusers do. They attempt to isolate the victim.
Story 5: And this one was fueled by racism. That's even worse. Yeah, the circumstances are a bit different, but still.
That is called Custodial interference and especially if out of the country could rise to the level of Kidnapping.
Been there, unfortunately. My stepmother actually forced me to call my mother and while glaring at me, made me tell my mother I never wanted to see her again. I can tell you, I never forgave that woman for all of the mental anguish she put me through over the years, and the only thing I can say is that I am glad she is dead and buried. She was the most evil person in my life that I can ever remember. Luckily, once I was out on my own, my mother and I reconnected, and our relationship got better over the years (as she knew I had been forced into telling her what I did).
My mother did the same thing to me but with my dad. Didn’t know he wanted to be in my life until I was 18
@@AurizenDarkstar Wow I'm so sorry your step-monster put you through that. There's a special place in Hell for her and others who do evil things towards kids so I hope she's burning down there and I hope she's writhing in pain.
I wonder what would have happened if Karen tried to defend herself by saying that OP kidnapped her son and she was just trying to get him back? The answer: "Why don't we look at the video footage to see if you're telling the truth?"
Makes you think, what about in the past when cameras weren't a thing?
@@spiritbx1337 A lot of men where faslely accused very easely. Even happens today still with camera's.
@@Some_Guy6 I hate women.
Wrong! Support her to call the police first. After they arrive, then you say, "Why don't we look at the video footage to see if you're telling the truth?" 😅
Im quit impacient with children, so i would've Just puncht the Kid Back after He didn't Stop punching
It could get me Into some legal stuff, but it wouldn't BE illigal were i live
The girl with the preemie should have called the police. Someone tried to steal her baby
This! On top of which, she had a witness. That woman will likely try this again.
Maybe even her daughter herself is a stolen baby! 😰
There's a higher orobability than ine would think.
*Story 4:* What OP went through actually has a more specific name. When you restrict someone's freedom of movement to a single building/area & prevent them from contacting certain people, that is called false imprisonment. Its considered a type of kidnapping. If your boss has ever stood in front of the door and prevented you from clocking out of work and leaving, that is considered false imprisonment too.
I was born premature and was very small, and I'm still small for average at 17. That woman saying the baby is underfed for being a CLEAR PREEMIE is insane!
I was a 2 1/2 pound premie twin, spent 6 weeks in an incubator, still only 5’0” tall at 56. Was extremely skinny until puberty. Wish I still were!
@@quix66hiya22 I feel that! I've always been a bit bigger but my stomach seriously needs to be reigned in
I was the opposite. 2 weeks late, they were obviously worried.
Same. My mom was dilating at 5 months, she had to take meds to prolong the pregnancy and I was still born weeks early. I was always small, and rn I'm just exactly the average size because my mom went with me to all sorts of doctors since I wasn't growing the amount I should as a kid.
And seriously, malnourished babies look way different than premature ones; that woman has the vision of a blind mole, she should get some glasses.
@@gabrielabatista6016 Oh wow! My story was my blood type was different than my mom's, so her body was going to attack and kill me unless I was born early
Story 5: I can almost guarantee that they did get the message about not visiting OP. That's why they came over when they did and said all of those things. They knew that she wouldn't be able to do anything.
Pretty sure it wasn’t in the US either.
@@alexandriav3956 it honestly could have been as this type of stuff happens a lot in TX when dealing with interrace marriages or those who are minority's
Always call police on Karen, save the next person from Karen!
And..... have them check to see if Karen's child was really hers!
Or shoot Karen. She definitely can't hurt anyone else if she's dead. If shooting is not possible, remove her from this Earth by any means available/necessary. If it's one thing the average person will take someone's life over it's their children
Story 6: NO FLUFF! If she had called the cops because of him putting hands on her son that would be one thing. But she tried to get him arrested for kidnapping HIS OWN DAUGHTER! So no, her calling the cops is NOT understandable.
Yeah my thoughts exactly Sonya
Yeah totally agree, ok he probably shouldn't have touched the son but it's not really a police matter and if you did want to escalate it to a police matter you make it solely about that, you don't accuse him of kidnapping a 4 yo kid.
Totally agreed she a racist and no offense I love Princess Peach more than Mario and Luigi heck I even dress up as her and the dad is right tht kid could gotten hurt
Exactly. Not to mention that all he did was move her son, she literally grabbed his daughter and wouldn't let go even after she said "let go". It made me upset because it sounded like Fluff is making excuses for the woman when the entire reason she called the cops was because she's a bigot.
@@FoxxyFire-HellFrost Fluff was hardly making excuses for that Karen, he was just acknowledging that the OP shouldn’t have handled the Karen’s son like that. I can also very easily see that event being the moment that made her rage peak to the point that she actually decided to call the cops, whereas before she would likely be upset but not call the cops. Getting offended is what makes Karens get so mad, and OP picking up her kid to get him off the slide would absolutely offend her and make her want to bring up the issue again.
Fourth story: The moment I heard the letters and phone calls stopped I knew whst the step monster did. And yes, the father don't knowing what his wife did is the most obvious BS I ever heard.
OP needs a restraining order on their neighbor.
And a g*n
Men need a restraining order on WOMEN.
Okay, treating an infant like it is a doll and then implying that the child would be in better care with them would be the first time I feel that violence is justified when no one has gotten physical yet. Get the child out of their possession, and then teach them a very important lesson.
Nothing worse than a jealous, vindictive, spiteful Karen for a step mum. I had letters stolen too. I thought the other half of my family didn't care about me any more. I ended up in foster care. Social services didn't help me find them either. Instead I got a religious, ignorant, holier than thou Karen foster mum. Out of the trying pan, into the fire.
If anyone else out there is going thru this at the moment, STAY STRONG! You WILL get through it! ❤
I was a young mum and the amount of older women trying to tell you how to raise your child is astonishing, I had to tell one or two off but if one had grabbed my stroller I’d have walloped Karen then called the police
Last story. Karen better be glad she was dealing with dad and not mom. If it had been mom, Karen wouldn't have needed the cops, she'd be needing an ambulance.
Dud if that was me in the first story I'd of screamed "GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY CHILD" as loud as my lungs would let me. You DO NOT touch someone's thing, pets or CHILDREN without explicit permission.
That's only part of what you should do. Whooping their ass is also a huge part of what should happen as well.
Needing to touch a child to prevent injury, is the OBVIOUS exception. His child was coming down the slide! It would be inexcusable to ALLOW a child to be hurt!
My son was premature and only weighed 3lbs 8ozs at birth if a Karen would have tried that with me they would have gotten slapped.
From me not slapped decked hard in the face
Third Story - With Karen saying that OP tried to kidnap her child, OP really needs to get a restraining order. That sort of thing could ruin his life.
I would’ve just said
Check the Security Cameras they are good witnesses
Also I’d like to Sue
Dark Fluff, in the last story she did not call the cops because he was removing her son from a possibly dangerous situation on the slide, she called to have him arrested for "kidnapping" his own daughter. If the call was about her own son, he more than likely have been arrested for it as you don't touch another's child in a non-emergency situation.
Story 3 - OP should pick up outdoor security cameras. If she's willing to let her kid attack OP for no reason, there's a good chance she'll try and get revenge for getting her kicked out, probably petty vandalism but better safe than sorry with an entitled person like her.
Last story: No, Karen didn't call the cops because OP lifted her son off the slide. She called because she thought the child wasn't OP's. She was just trying to force her will on whomever she pleases. OP should not have lifted the child up, but the cops heard nothing of that.
His daughter was just about to go down the slide when the kid ran up it. So, if he was trying to protect his daughter, he had every right to pick him up off the slide. (The kid may not have hurt her, but he seemed to be entitled, so who knows how far up the slide he'd have gone? And who knows if he'd have stepped on the little girl or not. It didn't say how old the boy was. But the little girl was only 4. )
@@HuskerGramI agree. I would have moved him aswell. One or both of the kids might have gotten hurt otherwise. 👍🏻
@@HuskerGram There is no evidence he would have hit O.P's daughter and climbing a slide is really common behavior on playgrounds (like every kid does it from time to time). O.P. had no right to touch him, , O.P. could have let the kids try to resolve it themselves. Usually if a kid is being a tool on a slide for too long, the kid at the top will just ram into them (with gusto) and they quickly learn that standing in the way on a slide isn't such a great idea). O.P. could have asked the mother to move the kid (though I'm almost certain the mother wouldn't have cooperated lol) or they could have just left. When I was little and a kid blocked the slide and being a tool about it the adult who was with us would usually say "just go, if they don't want to move that's their problem, they'll move next time". Of course this only applied if the kid was old enough to know better.
@@HuskerGram That's what I was thinking too, when it was commented that OP shouldn't have picked up the boy, that he was in the right to do so as it was in defense of his daughter. One or both of the kids could've been hurt because of what the boy was doing, and I think we all know that Karen wasn't going to do the right thing and deal with her kid herself.
The thing that really bugged me was when the Karen grabbed his daughter he didn’t do anything. The DAUGHTER fought to get away from her and the OP just let the Karen hold her and harass her. Then they STAYED AT THE PLAYGROUND while the Karen was still there????? I can guarantee that if that was my daughter that Karen would regret laying her hands on her or talking to her like that, at the very least I would have called the police.
Story#4: This happened to my daughter. Two of her kids stayed with their dad and when he remarried their step mom started throwing out all the letters and gifts my daughter sent them, telling them she just didn't care about them anymore. It has taken years now that they are grown up for the rest of our side of the family to convince them she lied. Very sad! 😵😭
Yeah Karen just wanted to help....... help herself to kidnap the kid.
Proper way there is no proper way to raise a baby. There are dues and don’ts. My blood is boiling as well put the baby down and get out of the freaking house, and you were never welcome in it again after that behavior.
First story: At the moment I saw her hand reaching for the stroller she goes flat on the ground.
Fifth story: The in-laws should consider themselves lucky that OP doesn't call the cops on them for trespassing, unlawful entry(as they weren't welcome in), and attempt of kidnapping. The trespassing and the unlawful entry charge would only see them get escorted off the property, but the attempt of kidnapping would land them in jail.
3rd story, OP honestly needs to call CPS at that point. I remember you posted the first story with the kid trying to stab his dog. The mother is completely unfit and the child is gonna grow up a psychopath if left in her care.
S2: Seriously even as a new mom she should have been more protective of her kid when it comes to strangers.
I use to have complete strangers asking if they could hold my newborn and I told them hell no.
My baby isn’t a bloody puppy. They actually looked at me like asked the stupid question of a complete stranger.
Second story you should’ve press charges what is wrong with people she’s gonna keep doing this to other people she needs to get her karma.🤦♀️
Absolutely call the cops! Let them arrest her once she leaves the ER! 😡
When she picks the wrong person she WILL get the karma she deserves.
I’ve never put my hands on a woman in anger, but anybody tries to grab my child they’re gonna get their face rearranged. My child is more important than that! The cops would have to come and pick this woman up in pieces.
The second story reminds me of my own encounter. I had a high risk pregnancy as well and even though my son was full term he had been born very small due to his body not getting what it needed in the womb. Also at 2 days old he developed meningitis and was refusing feeds and was then put on tube feeding. So 2 weeks later after he was released from intensive care I took him to the supermarket. In the car park an older woman approached me with a smile, I assume to admire the baby. She said an abrupt hello to me and lent into the stroller. All of her sudden her smile froze and she said in baby talk still leaning in to my baby "you are very small, mummy needs to feed you doesn't she". My son upon having a strange lady leaning over him starts to cry. She says, "Yes darling, I know your hungry". She then stood up and glared at me. "I think you should take your son home and feed him". All I could mumble was he was born small. I then made a beeline for the supermarket. Luckily she didn't stop me, but she did follow me around briefly until I was able to loose her. From that point on I made an effort to have my husband with me.
Story 4: Go OP's mom! Don't mess with a mama bear!
Story #1:
The second she asked if OP knew how to feed her own kid, I would have been gone. Stand up and put some space between her and me. I'm not a mother but I wouldn't want someone like that near me.
(And yes, I know the tone makes a difference but being safe is what I think is best?)
Last story: Do Karens know that there are all sorts of family in existence? You don't need to look like your parents. You could be adopted. Your parents could be of different races. Your parents could be of the same race with different skin tones. Even siblings of the same parents can have different features...even blood groups...shocking right?
Yeah, my backwards grandfather didn't understand that and thought half of his own kids weren't his own! The family was mixed Cherokee and Irish, so half of their 7 kids were blonde with blue eyes, and the rest were dark-skinned with brown or black hair. My mom said he constantly accused my grandmother of cheating on him!
Story 3 : yeah, "MOTHER OF THE YEAR" right there !
5:24 OP is understandably shook up, upset and wants refuge away from crazy, but seriously, that Karen should have had a report in about her behaviour.
My daughter had numerous medical issues as a baby and I was extremely grateful that I had background medical knowledge gained from being a Registered Nurse. By the time she was almost a year old, we were coping well, with her medical needs, however, she was extremely small for her age, but other than that, no one would have known that there was anything wrong. I’d had to return to work, but she was extremely well taken care of by my Mom. Every Wednesday morning, my Mom would take her & my 3 year old to a ‘Parent and toddler session’ at the church hall. Now my baby’s 1st birthday was on a Wednesday, so I took leave from work, to spend the day with both of my children. I’d never been to this group before, but we went in & I settled down on the floor with my two daughters and some toys. I’d got the baby sitting on my lap and my 3 year old was playing with other children & then coming back to me. For a while, everything was fine and then I heard, someone shouting ‘what do you think you’re doing!!!’ As I was happily playing with my daughters, I didn’t think it referred to me!!! Suddenly, someone grabbed my arm & pulled me round!!! This woman’s face appeared & she said ‘give her to me!! You’re holding her all wrong!!’ With that, she tried to grab my baby!! I said ‘leave her alone!’ She shouted ‘a baby that age, shouldn’t be sat up, you’ll damage her spine!’ I said ‘for your information, she’s one, so plenty old enough, to be sat up!’ The Karen looked at me and started to laugh, saying ‘don’t be so ridiculous, if she’s 6 weeks, it’s all she is, people like you, shouldn’t have children, if you don’t know how to look after them!’ I started to collect our things together, as I didn’t want her birthday ruined. As I stood up, Karen snapped ‘watch her head, don’t you know anything?!’ Right on cue, the door from the kitchen opened and the organisers came out, carrying a birthday cake with one candle and start singing ‘happy birthday’ to my daughter!!!! The Karen’s face was an absolute picture, her mouth kept opening and closing & no sound was coming out, as she turned a strange colour!! As we were eating cake, she once more came over and said ‘you should have told me, that your baby had medical problems!!!’ I slowly turned & said ‘my baby’s health has absolutely nothing to do with you!!! Now please go away and leave us alone!!!’ She scuttled off & we had a wonderful day!!!
That Karen's an idiot, nothing wrong with sitting a newborn up as long as you support their head.
Halftime Isolation: So while kidnapping doesn't entirely fit, it does especially coupled with parental alienation. OP it's better than me, I would've cut contact with Dad and Step Kidnapper.
I think I may have whiplash from shaking my head so hard from these stories. Karens need serious therapy and/or imprisonment for their actions.
As someone whose parent didn't try fighting to see them, I'm very happy that OPs mom was trying her hardest
If I ever have kids, I swear imma be an absolute papa bear/ protector on anyone who tries to give my kids or future wife trouble
If a Karen tried to take my kid I would have been using alot of self restraint to try avoid throwing punches and honestly even then I'd be throwing a good verbal bashing her way
Hell hath no fury, she better get John wick to protect her ass.
Uncle for 3 kids and agreed. I would go ham on kidnappers
I’ve found my community,protection At All Costs
My wife and I were waiting for a bus and this old woman came to use and was offering to buy our baby and I got so pissed off and told her you have a few seconds to run and make sure your running fast enough for your feet to hit your ass because I’ll chase you and make sure to bring you to the cop station for what you offered me for my baby. I never seen a 60 some year old run so fast.
Some people haven't had a well deserved smack down and it shows. Anyone dumb enough to grab at a baby definitely deserved to have a momma bear mauling. It's a great attitude adjuster.
If some random woman attempted to take my son out of a stroller uninvited and she doesn't stop after I told her to. I would knock her the FO!!!
That kid (that was hitting OP & saying they didn't like OP) is going to grow up, and someday really hurt someone badly. OP should be calling CPS on his neighbor (or talk to the kids father).
What a wonderful young mom taking her son to play, have fun and be social with other kids; moms need to uplift other moms
When my son was a baby, I was SUPER protective of him and was forced more than once to deal with women who tried to get handsey with my kid.
But the last Karen didn’t complain that op picked her kid off the slide, she complained that op kidnapped his own child!
Story 4: No, that's not technically kidnapping. It's overt Custodial Interference. The courts usually don't take kindly to that.
"Not the worst thing she's done"? She falsely accused someone of attempting to abduct her child. If that had been taken seriously and no one was able to refute her claims, that could have been devastating. Even without a conviction, it could have meant court and a tarnished reputation. If that's not the worst thing she's done, I would hate to see what the actual worst thing is.
I have several black belts I taught my daughters how to fight n defend themselves , my oldest broke another students nose on the bus when he kept poking her in the back w a pencil after she warned him to stop n she broke someone arm when they grabbed her !!!
To be fair, there are plenty of parents out there who think that simply being the mother of the child magically makes them know all about how to take care of a child, when in reality, they have no idea. My sister-in-law is a perfect example of this. She's convinced herself she's a great mother, and knows better then others, including my mom who has five kids, three of which are grown adults and the last two are teenagers, where she only has one and she's only 2 and half at this point.
The problem is, everytime she does make a few mistakes, which she does because she don't know what she's doing, and others try and help her out, for the child's sake, she gets's super annoyed because she's supposed to know better, being a recent mother where others have adult kids and have more experience. SHe even accuses other of saying she's a bad mom, when no one has actually said that, and it's simply her own insecurity.
Story 5: EB SIL"that baby probably isn't yours"
She should have responded to that with jokers infamous "you wanna know how I got these scars" quote
My son is due next week; I'm a wheelchair user. As much as I look forward to taking him on walks, to the park, out in public in general - I'm terrified of instances like this. I've seen so many stories about disabled people, infants, and interracial couples being Karen's favorite targets, and my family is the trifecta. Between hearing things like this and "they can't be your child because you're white/not white," I've literally begged my husband to carry a copy of his birth certificate on him at all times. (I plan on doing the same). Better to be safe than be without my child.
I strongly suggest pepper spray, pocket knife, loud alarm/whistle, hell even something that gives you reach to smack them. You might never need them but good to have if the situation arises.
22:36
Nope.
The boy running up the slide was posing a safety hazard for both him and his daughter.
It is perfectly fine to grab a child out of this situation and set it on the ground.
To the contrary, not doing so and something happens to that child is making you partially responsible when something happens in this situation. In this case if the boy slipped, fell face first onto the slide and broke his nose/chipped some teeth OP would be in part responsible because he did not prevent an obvious accident. Hell a strong wind from the side could have led to the boy falling sideways off the slide and breaking his neck.
Little boys *always* think they are stronger and/or more stable than they actually are. Little girls "only" are a majority, but not all of them.
He did violate the "Don't go against Karens demands!" code, but legally he was totally in the right by even doing a commendable action.
Story #2: I wouldn't have asked, I would have called the police as I ran to the scene!!! I would have also told the EM that she wasn't going anywhere until she was arrested for Kidnapping!!!!!!!!
My brother and sister-in-law adopted a baby from Ethiopia days after he turned a year old. He is black while my brother and wife are white. No matter his color or bloodline, he is family and every single one of us (3 uncles, 1 aunt, tons of younger cousins and siblings and 2 adult cousins) would give our life for him. Color doesn't matter in our eyes. Love is thicker than blood.
Oh hell nah, I would have been throwing hands if a Karen so much as touched my child without permission, let alone taking them out if their stroller! Karen would have been breathing and eating through a tube for months after I got done with her! My wheelchair-bound cousin taught me how to fight, and he taught me to ALWAYS fight dirty if me or my children are threatened by a stranger. I go for the eyes, throat, knees, and groin (if my assailant is male). Karen had better keep her hands to herself with me and mine, unless she wants to lose them!
Yes! I'm surprised anyone would put up with grabbing for their kid. Some parents, especially new mothers can be absolutely feral when it comes to their kids and rightfully so.
I would have g*nn3d her down. Ain't no one kidnapping my child or animal.
I don’t like violence but touch my child and your dead.
Umm...you know that level of response would land you in prison? What happens to your child then?
Not saying you shouldn't protect your child, but your post indicates you are a braggart or a psychopath.
@@bcaye um the law and precedent would disagree with you completely. If someone attempts to kidnap your child and you defend your child you will get off of all charges. The only caveat being that your actions cannot be malicious. Meaning you cannot cause harm to the abductor beyond what is necessary to protect your child (which is an incredible gray area). And in a case where a mother or father is defending their child the court will generally rule in favor of the parent. These cases are incredibly rare to actually go to court with the abductor suing as the abductor would have to acknowledge they did indeed touch the child. It’s also considered one of the last fully standing temporary insanity pleas. This is why you never touch someone else’s child without the parent’s permission. The courts will never hear you out unless the child was in immediate danger. The child could be loud obnoxious and hitting other kids and you still cannot touch that child. Entitled parents that know this use it to their advantage.
Someone tried to take my baby. I had my 2 week old unstrapped in his carseat as I had just set him in and I was getting money from the atm. Lady asks to see my baby. I told her no. And she literally snatched him. My twin happened to be coming out of the restroom (we were at the mall) and being the protective auntie she is she barreled over and wrenched my son from her and full on SLAPPED the woman. 😂 the lady tried to call the cops but witnesses told them what she did and she was arrested 😂 serves her right.
Story 3 -- em:"...my son just wants to play."
Me:"Your son hits me again and I'll play football with him, by seeing how far he can punted."
Second story: This one is worse. Touch stroller, your hand goes with the stroller.
I'd tell her, "Let go or pull back a bloody stump, B!" 😡
Moving the kid safely off the slide is normal decent behavior for those of us who are 50 plus for certain... Its preventing a child from being injured, and setting the child safely down immediately to go play or go to their guardian...
Holding another child aloft, insisting she's been kidnapped because Karen is racist and doesn't believe mixed blood kids can look more like one parent is insane.
I am listening to the story w/OP-in-stitches and have only gotten to the part where SIL is saying baby would be better off w/SIL....aaaaaannnnndddd, I am trying to stop MYSELF from reaching for the phone & calling police!
I’m fairly certain story #5 about the baby being light skinned wasn’t in the US. I remember hearing a similar story that took place somewhere in South America I believe, where they favored light skinned people with colored eyes.
no one is allowed to touch a stranger's pram, or even touch a baby without parents permission. I would have called the police myself. Why doesn't those Karen's never learn
the karen's kid in the second story is sweet. hope that lasts into adulthood.
11:38 I called it. The father was in cahoots.
Story 1: the correct approach the stranger should have done would be ask if op needs any help and maybe offer a silly story of her own kids being distracted while eating, then leave op alone
Friendly conversation, no assumption or belittling, just trying to be kind and backing off when told no
dude, karens don't do 'correct'... They litterly can't cause their ego keeps yelling in their ear to go for it.
Glad Fluff had the same reaction as me to OP in the last story grabbing the Karen's son! That definitely didn't sound right
Story #1 & #2 is a great way to have a closed casket funeral.
Edit #5 is as well.
I'm a mum of 5 and I have seen so many people who won't tell their child to not climb the slide the wrong way so I think op was right for moving the child as only obvious that even if you asked politely to speak to there child Karren would cause drama anyway
Those first two stories. Were anyone to try that when my daughter was but a wee lass (she's 30 now), you can bet hands and punches would be thrown and teeth swallowed. Same if it were my nieces and nephews.
7:37 Actually, punching someone's leg is Battery. Assault is yelling at somebody in a threatening manner.
Oh No! The story with the woman recovering from the birth of her child??? Why didn't the mother slam the door in the MIL and SIL's face. If they didn't leave, I'd call the cops AND press charges....whatever I could get on them! Especially after they tried to convince the mother to hand her child over. FYI: my mom would have been standing there cleaning her shotgun if it were me that was recovering. No lie!
Stranger grabs my 4 yo daughter and won't let go. She wakes up with a broken jaw.
2nd story with the premature baby - would that really be attempted kidnapping? I'd absolutely call the police. I'm not even sure what I'd say to dispatch or what complaint I could file or what actual crime the offender could be charged with... but I'd be finding out from the cops that showed up because I freakin' called them!
But Karen didn't call the cops bc he lifted her child. Her reaction was to snatch up HIS child. Making them both wrong for putting hands on kids that aren't theirs. She then calls the cops bc she wasn't getting her way when she was trying to convince the daughter he wasnt her father.
Last story, exactly, op shouldn't have touched the kid, let him get hurt when someone else goes down the slide, nothing like first hand experience to teach a lesson
The Karen in the last story didn't call the cops because he picked up her son. She did it to cause problems.
Agreed her son is annoying
About the first two stories, why in the world did the two attacked moms didn’t call the police?!? Those crazy ‘Karens’ will certainly do the same s**t to someone else for sure! When facing crazy people like those two, it’s the only thing to do.
I’m a father to a little girl and I’m usually very docile and will avoid violence. But if anyone tries to take my baby without my permission, all bets are off.
One of my cousins used a small sock as a onesie when she was born. Some babies are just born small... she's now a healthy, average-sized adult!
She attacks the daughter. Oh please tell me you press charges please.
I would've called the police in every single one of these. Attempted kidnapping is a very serious crime.
I absolutely agree with you.
When my son was born my wife went and got her CCW. Around the time he was born lots of kids were getting kidnapped. She would kill anyone that threatened his safety.
I'm always amazed how many people in the U.S. feel entitled to even try and touch another person's baby. I haven't heard of that in any other country. What kind of monster tries to take another person's baby just because?!
It may be because I am the daughter of a mother bear, and although I am not a mother, I have the same mother bear instincts towards my little cousins, (there is almost 20 years of difference between the cousin who is next in age to my sister and me) and the mothers in those stories, that the mother automatically does not protest, she roars, screams, defends her baby... the mother in the second story recovers her voice and what happens when the matter was resolved, if the girl had not spoken they would have taken her away. to her baby and her still trying to know what's going on there?
not an immediate retort of: no, that's my baby, a stranger had time to intervene, the little girl spoke... my god, and in fact, Darkfluff is right, that is a very common modus operandi; They create a scandal and in the middle of it they take the baby away while the crowd detains the mother, believing her to be the kidnapper... I would have filed a complaint, and let her endure the consequences, better for her than the mother and the baby.
In other cases the only proof they have are random photographs on the phone, something that with basic knowledge and a good program can be falsified. My mother carried with her for years in her purse a certified copy of our birth certificates when she went out with us, even when park
Personally, in a situation like this, or any other, they ask me if I want to press charges, I say yes.
Behavior that has no consequences tends to be repeated.
I have lived my life surrounded by entitled people, Karens and Kevins, and the only thing that dissuaded them from continuing with their attacks was repeating themselves to be respected.
, is knowing that I will not be passive, that I will always take the appropriate actions without fear of what they will say.
that I never attack, but I am not the one who takes the high road, I am one of those who kills the snake by the head, and that although I never start fights, I finish them
You want to hear about someone entitled? My dog thinks she’s entitled to MY FOOD.
Shocking!!! 🤣😂
No. The Karen in that last story should have just said "Put my son down." and then walked off. Calling the police was the thing she did that was wrong. The guy was trying to keep his daughter safe, and the kid in all honesty. His mother would have been screaming louder if the girl went down the slide with him on it and knocked him off. She was a monster, needed to take her kid and leave, or teach him manners (of course, that's expecting too much since she didn't have manners either.) I'm sad for her son, he's going to have a hard life with a mom who teaches him to be just as entitled as she seems to think she is.
"Do you know how to feed him?" Oh my god. I'm childfree and I know how to feed a baby.
Why do people never call the police?
Fifth story: I see clearly what they wanted, total freedom with the baby and the mother unable to fight back.
Edit: The moment I heard them wanting to take the baby that's the moment to bring a shotgun.
If a child is going to get hurt, and the parent isn't stopping them, then you absolutely should remove the child from danger. That's all OP did in the past story.
That comment made about the young mom not being able "to cope" seriously boils my blood. People still say that I couldn't cope with my son when he was little and I had very few issues with him at all.
For story 3 with the punch happy mini karen crotch spawn, if I was OP I would have asked the security person if I can get a statement/incident report from them. Then go to the cops and get a restraining order for the woman and her kid. I would also call CPS and report that Karen is putting her in dangerous situations as she is encouraging him to attack people that Karen doesn't like and then also include about how the kid stabbed OP's dog. CPS would be out quick for a surprise inspection and interview of Karen's family and neighbors.
Yeah people are to nice here.
@@miciso666 WAY too nice. If she's not taking care of her child hoe she should and she's basically raising him to be a psychopath, she shouldn't be in custody of the child. The kid will grow up in prison cause he'll just attack everyone he doesn't like