In hermetics the concept of as above so below and vice versa is kind of useful for these sorts of metaphoric visualization of mental constructs. We do this unintentionally and sometimes intentionally all the time, such as calling a persons gaze steely, someones mind clear like a mountain stream. A person whose presence is like a foundation pillar. Ironblooded veterans, a person who is the eye of the storm, someone who is sad is having ther heart clouded. The list is endless. Natural phenomenon is one of the best methods to visualize psychological qualia
I loved this video so much! Your narrative was absolutely beautiful and so descriptive and the images you chose complimented it so much and were a feast to my eyes. I was totally transfixed.
Would love to see more content along these lines. I thought it was brilliant. It just made so much sense to me and opened up avenues for thought. Please develop this more!
It is very interesting to watch this video and compare the elemental attributes given to the functions in Michael Pierce's book "Motes and Beams". The only functions You guys agreed on were the Earth=Sensing functions. It makes me wonder, although there is a difference in labeling, what primary characteristics are at work within the cognitive functions that could reconcile these dichotomies.
Funny was just making this exact case for the functions and most people thought fire would be emotions because in a western view we see it as only passion and no further. But looking at it in eastern/ancient terms and seeing how water is more related to chaos and fire order it makes more sense
Yes, both associations can work depending on how you look at it. That said, feeling =/= chaos unless you don't have your emotional world well-managed or have a more negative orientation toward it as mentioned in the video.
@@Multitudes_ Its more like emotions arent as predictable and come and go like the Oceans tide (sometimes unexplainable) and logic is more structured and predictive. (Easier to explain and lay out. Your taking this as [chaos =bad and order =good]
@@jograves8859 I'm not simply taking it as chaos = bad and order = good. For someone like me, an INFP, the emotional world is in fact more structured, explainable, and controllable than it is for many people - and is generally a peaceful place. Some feelings come and go, but not usually in a chaotic way, and often pretty predictably, especially the better I understand and know how to cultivate them (and there are many feelings that actually remain very stable over time). Whereas the most disordered and chaotic realm of my life is the Te-Se realm. And I do tend to find it easier to explain and lay out my feelings than my thoughts.
@@Multitudes_ Ok I think I see what your saying. Your seeing this as how you personally relate to each cognitive function and not really looking at the ontology of Emotion and logic itself separate from you. Emotion is derived from one’s circumstance, mood or relationship to others/the environment at the time. Logic is conducted and assessed according to strict principles of reality. Maybe this will help you see more of where im coming from. Logic having a more “static” nature and emotion a bit more changeable depending on the situation.
@@jograves8859 The Feeling realm involves much more than just fleeting emotions or reactions to one's immediate environment - especially when you get into things like values, identity, and deep and lasting emotional bonds/investments formed with people and things. Also, to some extent, all convergent functions - including thinking functions - are fluid and changeable. Though this does not mean chaotic, as there also tends to be pretty good control over them. Really, I just didn't think 'chaotic' was the right word - and it's too often an association made with the feeling realm by people who see it as just a bunch of fiery passions and kneejerk emotional reactions - but no worries. :)
Really good analogy of the axes(axiis) and degree of expansion with positive and negative expressions of each. It taps into a way we describe behaviour already and clarifies the focus. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent video! I've always wondered what other people's take on this idea might be, and your take seems artfully constructed. A great video concept could be attributing a more complex elemental combination to each type. For ENTP, I was thinking lightning or electricity. Following the axis, you have the air and sky dominant Ne, and it's Fe (water) pair, giving us clouds. In between, you have Ti--plasma, heat, combustion. Put them together, and you create lightning. Funny enough, there's tons of things that make lightning and electricity seem fitting. Lighting never striking (the same spot) twice, the lightbulb going off, spontaneous and unpredictable energy... Thomas Edison--the first name that comes to mind when thinking of lightbulbs, the metaphorical bread and butter of Ne--was an ENTP. Benjamin Franklin--the man who experimented with lightning and discovered the inherent electricity within--was an ENTP. Fester from The Addams family--a playful pick, with the literal ability to manipulate electricity--was an ENTP. INFJs are close, but instead of lightning, they're more like rain. The Ni indicates a similar sky-orientation, but with higher Fe, there is more water--hence the rain. This also seems fitting, because INFJs often have a gentle, nourishing, and almost cleansing presence. Although, unlike a large body of water with ample nourishment to give on demand, the INFJs seem a little bit farther removed from us, and their presence is--albeit more predictable than the ENTP--not something that is always readily available; they need time to separate and reform, before returning again to nourish and provide. That's just off the top of my head though, I'm sure there's more to this. Whenever I wonder what my type is, I'm just going to remember this comment, lol.
I loved this thought provoking comment! I'm a divergent ENFJ; if you have any ideas as to what would represent myself I'd greatly appreciate it. Btw what type are you?
@@Tified967 off the top of my head, I am thinking... a river, flowing from the top of a mountain. Having Ni > Se makes me think you'd have some elevation-factor that puts you a bit higher, a bit more removed from the earth--but not entirely. Being feeling dominant, you'd be primarily water--and hence the mountain river. I see some connections here as well. Connected to the INFJ, the rain clouds that help supply water; connected to lower bodies of water, such as a valley river (ISFJ) or lake (ESFJ). A mirror type, the ENTJ, is like a volcano. They have that mountain-orientation, similar to the ENFJ, but with a fiery orientation. They have the capacity to completely level and destroy what surrounds them--laying the foundation for something else entirely. I think the valley river for the ISFJ makes sense, because there's something so earnest, endearing, and humble about a river that's always nearby when you need it, constantly flowing and giving. The ESFJ (lake) is more still, and with its higher Fe (water) it can accommodate many more people. It is also connected to the ISFJ and ENFJ. And I think INTJs are like the sun. Despite having the same Ni dominance as the INFJ, they're seemingly even farther removed. Since they are fire dominant, I would say that the sun is an adequate representation. They have keen, insightful, and philosophical minds that help shed light on the darkness of the universe. Their wisdom and industriousness plays a crucial role in paving the way for life to flourish... but should you stand in rays of the sun too long, you may find that it's easy to get burnt--the judgement of the INTJ is rarely overwhelming, but even though often well-meant, can be too much if taken in too high of a dose. Oh, and I'm fairly certain I'm an ENTP. Well, what I mean is that generally my behavior and test-indications and general understanding of MB + Jungian typology indicate that I'm an ENTP, even though I constantly find myself speculating if I'm another type. I think the only type that I could be--all things considered--would be an INTP. But even then, I'm under the impression that INTPs prefer to take more time to deeply understand their given subjects of interest, and generally feel little (although still helathy) pull toward social interactions. I'd say I'm more isolated as a result of circumstance and having a hard time getting along with people than a lack of desire. It's not that I don't want to, it just seems like every time I try, I'm too unusual in some way and I get burned... and at some point I just finally learned my lesson. Oh, sorry about the tangent. ENTP, I think.
I can see, in a way (depending on how you look at it) both thinking and feeling being described as both fire and water. But i do agree with this analogy. I think that divergent feelers would rather burn down thousand bridges and build them from the ground up (literally or inside their head) than go all in to explore those oceans and swim in them. While convergent feelers don't want to get burnt, convergent thinkers don't want to drown. I like this format it's super colorful and interesting, though i generally prefer it not being too archetypal/stereotypical. I think this method can help many people make this information more tangible. As always, im looking forward to videos as usual about the types and cognition, though some can be this way as well! 😃😊 Loving these illustrative pictures!
Harry, I think that it is awesome that you are applying deep elemental archetypes as foundations for the cognitive functions. It is in these elemental archetypes where the truths of the Universe genuinely show up, and where all function and form are created to scaffold higher and more profound truths. As an ESTP with strong divergent NiTi, I strongly align with the direction that this theme builds upon and am pleased to see you traverse down this deeply archetypal and elemental path.
Man this was beautiful. It took me a few repeats but it really hit home with me today. Thanks for all of your thought provoking content, you're awesome!
This was a lovely video! I really enjoy these metaphoric ways to describe cognitive functions, since it helps to build a better, more interconnected understanding of it! I'm looking forward for the geeky content you mentioned! I myself love DnD haha 😄
I find this highly interesting! As an ENF-T/ENTP I've always told people my own experience of my existence is like air, here one day and gone the other to wherever my musings take me. Bravo Harry
Thank you for this video! I often compare my introspection to diving in the deep (maybe in search of Si diamonds :D), so I'm glad to see that indeed Fi is related to water. The elements appear in many systems, such as four temperaments, so it's great that you've adapted this to CPT as well!
Love the poetry that is your explanation of the elements and how they correspond to cognitive functions. The fire element is very appealing to me, but I would be one who would tread not too closely so that I wouldn't get burned. I respect the water element the most. It's so unassuming! With positives of how it quenches thirst and allows us to marvel at its beauty in all of its forms, (lakes. rivers, streams, and oceans) yet also the treacherous aspect of getting in too deep and struggling with the current. Also, when the ocean is so disturbed that it causes a tsunami to form which can make the landscape really dangerous. Thanks for this. A little break from the scientific with a look into the beauty of cognition.
Fun stuff, pretty cool! I really like how the Fire = Thinking reveal caught me off guard, it just seemed so easy and obvious(and lazy) that fire would feeling. What with the concepts lika a fiery passion, being warmheated, emotional warmth, burning desire etc. But i really like the what you did we the rational functions here and stuff like this is just always good fun(as an intellectual excersize), anyways cheers😁
Hey, have you ever considered doing an "ISFJ/ISTJ An Alternate Prospective" video, in the same vein as your "An Alternate Prospective" videos on the ENFP/ENTP? I think those videos would be awesome and well deserved.
I love this. I've often associated function pairs with certain elements and am happy to see you flesh out your own framework. I cant wait to see you combine the elements, or at least dig more into this :D
Ti dom here, this fire meta example immediately reminds me of the theological significance of the adversary archatypes, Lucifer, Seth, etc etc. Supposedly as the universe operates on sequences, and repetitive patterns, a "demiurge" or a deity representing matter, perhaps often also viewed as god by Einstein and some aspects of Catholicism. Then theres the opposite, chaos, and as caro jung says, in chaos there is a hidden order. Lucifer or the adversary representing fire, the breaking of sequences, taking a structure which goes up and down, and rendering it a structure which goes left and right. In this metaphysical example you have a seeming contrast between irrationality and rationality. Very counter to what many would wrongly associate with the 2 words.
I've come to learn that knowing the cognitive functions is a really good tool to learn from and grow, not lock yourself in a box labeled ENTP or ISFP etc.
I understand this way of thinking doesn't come naturally to you, but would it be possible for you to give more concrete examples of the functions being used? Even if just the extraverted ones? I feel as though it would be beneficial in the understanding of your theory, especially for those of us in the land of the sensing haha
Thank you for your video, your explanations seem very intuitive to me. It baffles me how easily we nowadays disregard the value of e.g. elemental systems, seeing as how so many civilizations in different times and different places stumbled upon that idea on their own, and usually with (more or less) the same collection and interpretation of elements. If it is such a recurring theme in human thinking, not to mention intuitively understandable to pretty much everyone (including many of the most intelligent and creative people throughout history), then to me it seems nonsensical and even arrogant to declare so much of human thought irrelevant or irrational. And if it is such a basic feature of the world (otherwise why would we, a part of the world, come up with it again and again?), then surely it must be prominent, efficaciously or at least by analogy, in more specific aspects of being as well. In this case, psychology. I appreciate your effort of reconciling the two. Sorry for the wall of text.
I find I become more earth at times or more manic like in another. I did a video on the functions and the Qabalah with Yesod being intuition, Malkuth Sensing, Hod Thinking, and Netzach Feeking, Chesed being positive in charge and Geburah negative in charge, chokmah is extroversion and Binah introversion.
I figured out that I'm a heavy si te user... I often find myself dreaming about water and the color blue. I know that John Beebe's research would suggest that it is a hint at strong thinking functions, but perhaps water is linked to si... or perhaps I'm a feeler... heh xD Anyways, amazing video
Thank you for such content :) very keen perceptions and observations, and the words could only be as good... From now, this paradigm and its understanding can actually be found, reflected and relied upon as a new landmark for the next ride in events; through out our very experience, to know , then to make clearer* choices.
I've done similar with intuition being wet, and sensing being dry, extraversion being hot, and introversion being cold. This is traditional alchemy. I like you putting the breadth and depth of extraversion and introversion as outside of typical alchemical dichotomies, but I'm not sure if the rational axes and the irrational axes should be grouped together like this. Extraversion and introversion not corrorlating to hot/cold or wet/dry is congruent to CPT ideals because it is a spectrum, but sensing and intuition being in opposite corners with the rational axies in the middle illustrates cognitive elements as ingredients in more complex patterns but it doesn't illiustrate the transmission of one element into another, an indenspensible aspect of alchemy. Without the possibility of Air transmuting into Earth through fire or water you can't have cognitive fluidity.
Hi Harry great content! I'd love to see how you'd relate this to a divergent subtype such as myself considering I have both a positive & negative relationship with fire 🔥. I'd even say I have a somewhat ambivalent relationship with water even as an ENFJ which might be surprising to some. I'd love a D&D style video, so happy to see your geeky side coming out! 😊 "if you come down here on water you're generally gonna get hit back," - love this! The irony is I've always been a water baby - great swimmer and confident in my ability to 'master' this element therefore; must be the Fe dominance haha.
I'm finding this very, very interesting and listening to it over and over, because, I read a lot of Ayurvedic reasonings and I have learned that I am Pitta-Vata with imbalanced Vata. Well, it's all imbalanced, but I am so imbalanced in Kapha most people would assume that's what I am. Pitta is fire and water, Vata is air and space, Kapha is earth and water. Pitta would then be thinking and feeling, Vata would be intuition, Kapha would be sensing and feeling. I think Vata would also be perceiving, but I did not get that from this video. I would like to ramble more on the subject, but I don't know enough to know how, yet.
Now that I realize there's an alchemical component to it as well. When water and fire enter into contact with each other that is thinking and feeling and fire evaporates water it creates gas. And since you said that intuition is gas. Could it be then that intuition as gas can be seen as an alchemical product based on the interactions between water and fire?
Hey i bought your book it's good although i wanna it in pdf, i bought by kindle. Its good your book. thanks for it. I have a idea could you create a cpt community by discord or any other place?
Hi! I have a small question. I'm wondering how compatible MBTI/CPT is with the Enneagram. What I mean is, can some types be contradictory (e.g., INTJ with type 7 or INFP with type 8), or are they more like completely separate systems with no rules about type contradictions?
Better to treat them as separate systems, though a person's core drives/wounds (however people like to refer to them) will probably show up in subtype and aux networks outside of type
Not to refute Harry's function-element correlations, but I've always felt it's easier to correlate the 4 elements with temperaments than directly to cognitive functions, and so, like this: ExxJ / Extroverted Judging = Choleric = Fire IxxP / Introverted Judging = Phlegmatic = Water ExxP / Extroverted Perceiving = Sanguine = Air IxxJ / Introverted Perceiving = Melancholic = Earth
Great video! It's been a while since your last fictional character typing Harry. Do you have any plan for this? Maybe GOT? 😅😄 I'm really interested to know your opinion on Jon Snow personality.
Harry did mention Jon Snow as a potential ISTP with a great Fi dip from the dominant Ti in a patreon video which initially I didn't think about but now I'm warming to it.
I very much would like a video comparing and differentiating INTJs and ENTJs, I am either of the two, I always thought I were an INTJ, but I have been doubting that recently. I've noted how dominant me Te really is in my life and how I'm a lot more reactive to the external world than lost in my own mind. Is this a more mature INTJ who can make better use of his extroverted functions, or really an ENTJ all along? Thank you nonetheless
Jung compared Ne to swimming in water. I prefer CSJ's: 🔥 = Ni 💧 = Ne Air = Se Earth = Si. As the 4 original elements are not rational but are perceived. Also I would argue 🔥 relates more to feeling than thinking. And a thirst for knowledge represents 💧.
There actually are a couple! They're just older, so you may have to dig a little. I think the 'INFP vs INTP in 10 minutes' video is particularly good. (Sorry if this was already said in the other reply, which is not showing up for me.)
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@@zakariaelidrissi3001 Ah, I see. Yeah, that would probably be useful. I feel like those are quite distinct types in CPT, but they can still get confused, especially for those who have seen too many stereotypical MBTI takes on them.
didn’t know i needed the elements and the functions together so much
In hermetics the concept of as above so below and vice versa is kind of useful for these sorts of metaphoric visualization of mental constructs.
We do this unintentionally and sometimes intentionally all the time, such as calling a persons gaze steely, someones mind clear like a mountain stream. A person whose presence is like a foundation pillar.
Ironblooded veterans, a person who is the eye of the storm, someone who is sad is having ther heart clouded.
The list is endless. Natural phenomenon is one of the best methods to visualize psychological qualia
I loved this video so much! Your narrative was absolutely beautiful and so descriptive and the images you chose complimented it so much and were a feast to my eyes. I was totally transfixed.
Would love to see more content along these lines. I thought it was brilliant. It just made so much sense to me and opened up avenues for thought. Please develop this more!
It is very interesting to watch this video and compare the elemental attributes given to the functions in Michael Pierce's book "Motes and Beams". The only functions You guys agreed on were the Earth=Sensing functions. It makes me wonder, although there is a difference in labeling, what primary characteristics are at work within the cognitive functions that could reconcile these dichotomies.
Funny was just making this exact case for the functions and most people thought fire would be emotions because in a western view we see it as only passion and no further. But looking at it in eastern/ancient terms and seeing how water is more related to chaos and fire order it makes more sense
Yes, both associations can work depending on how you look at it. That said, feeling =/= chaos unless you don't have your emotional world well-managed or have a more negative orientation toward it as mentioned in the video.
@@Multitudes_ Its more like emotions arent as predictable and come and go like the Oceans tide (sometimes unexplainable) and logic is more structured and predictive. (Easier to explain and lay out. Your taking this as [chaos =bad and order =good]
@@jograves8859 I'm not simply taking it as chaos = bad and order = good. For someone like me, an INFP, the emotional world is in fact more structured, explainable, and controllable than it is for many people - and is generally a peaceful place. Some feelings come and go, but not usually in a chaotic way, and often pretty predictably, especially the better I understand and know how to cultivate them (and there are many feelings that actually remain very stable over time). Whereas the most disordered and chaotic realm of my life is the Te-Se realm. And I do tend to find it easier to explain and lay out my feelings than my thoughts.
@@Multitudes_ Ok I think I see what your saying. Your seeing this as how you personally relate to each cognitive function and not really looking at the ontology of Emotion and logic itself separate from you. Emotion is derived from one’s circumstance, mood or relationship to others/the environment at the time. Logic is conducted and assessed according to strict principles of reality. Maybe this will help you see more of where im coming from. Logic having a more “static” nature and emotion a bit more changeable depending on the situation.
@@jograves8859 The Feeling realm involves much more than just fleeting emotions or reactions to one's immediate environment - especially when you get into things like values, identity, and deep and lasting emotional bonds/investments formed with people and things.
Also, to some extent, all convergent functions - including thinking functions - are fluid and changeable. Though this does not mean chaotic, as there also tends to be pretty good control over them.
Really, I just didn't think 'chaotic' was the right word - and it's too often an association made with the feeling realm by people who see it as just a bunch of fiery passions and kneejerk emotional reactions - but no worries. :)
Wake up guys!! It's time for a new CPT lesson.
It's always good to see you around, Harry.
Really good analogy of the axes(axiis) and degree of expansion with positive and negative expressions of each. It taps into a way we describe behaviour already and clarifies the focus. Thanks for sharing!
This was so brilliant, loved it 💨🔥🌊🌎
I love this fresh, imaginative look at CPT and would be excited to see more videos based on it.
Excellent video! I've always wondered what other people's take on this idea might be, and your take seems artfully constructed. A great video concept could be attributing a more complex elemental combination to each type.
For ENTP, I was thinking lightning or electricity. Following the axis, you have the air and sky dominant Ne, and it's Fe (water) pair, giving us clouds. In between, you have Ti--plasma, heat, combustion. Put them together, and you create lightning. Funny enough, there's tons of things that make lightning and electricity seem fitting. Lighting never striking (the same spot) twice, the lightbulb going off, spontaneous and unpredictable energy...
Thomas Edison--the first name that comes to mind when thinking of lightbulbs, the metaphorical bread and butter of Ne--was an ENTP.
Benjamin Franklin--the man who experimented with lightning and discovered the inherent electricity within--was an ENTP.
Fester from The Addams family--a playful pick, with the literal ability to manipulate electricity--was an ENTP.
INFJs are close, but instead of lightning, they're more like rain. The Ni indicates a similar sky-orientation, but with higher Fe, there is more water--hence the rain. This also seems fitting, because INFJs often have a gentle, nourishing, and almost cleansing presence. Although, unlike a large body of water with ample nourishment to give on demand, the INFJs seem a little bit farther removed from us, and their presence is--albeit more predictable than the ENTP--not something that is always readily available; they need time to separate and reform, before returning again to nourish and provide.
That's just off the top of my head though, I'm sure there's more to this.
Whenever I wonder what my type is, I'm just going to remember this comment, lol.
I loved this thought provoking comment! I'm a divergent ENFJ; if you have any ideas as to what would represent myself I'd greatly appreciate it. Btw what type are you?
@@Tified967 off the top of my head, I am thinking... a river, flowing from the top of a mountain. Having Ni > Se makes me think you'd have some elevation-factor that puts you a bit higher, a bit more removed from the earth--but not entirely. Being feeling dominant, you'd be primarily water--and hence the mountain river. I see some connections here as well. Connected to the INFJ, the rain clouds that help supply water; connected to lower bodies of water, such as a valley river (ISFJ) or lake (ESFJ). A mirror type, the ENTJ, is like a volcano. They have that mountain-orientation, similar to the ENFJ, but with a fiery orientation. They have the capacity to completely level and destroy what surrounds them--laying the foundation for something else entirely. I think the valley river for the ISFJ makes sense, because there's something so earnest, endearing, and humble about a river that's always nearby when you need it, constantly flowing and giving. The ESFJ (lake) is more still, and with its higher Fe (water) it can accommodate many more people. It is also connected to the ISFJ and ENFJ.
And I think INTJs are like the sun. Despite having the same Ni dominance as the INFJ, they're seemingly even farther removed. Since they are fire dominant, I would say that the sun is an adequate representation. They have keen, insightful, and philosophical minds that help shed light on the darkness of the universe. Their wisdom and industriousness plays a crucial role in paving the way for life to flourish... but should you stand in rays of the sun too long, you may find that it's easy to get burnt--the judgement of the INTJ is rarely overwhelming, but even though often well-meant, can be too much if taken in too high of a dose.
Oh, and I'm fairly certain I'm an ENTP. Well, what I mean is that generally my behavior and test-indications and general understanding of MB + Jungian typology indicate that I'm an ENTP, even though I constantly find myself speculating if I'm another type. I think the only type that I could be--all things considered--would be an INTP. But even then, I'm under the impression that INTPs prefer to take more time to deeply understand their given subjects of interest, and generally feel little (although still helathy) pull toward social interactions. I'd say I'm more isolated as a result of circumstance and having a hard time getting along with people than a lack of desire. It's not that I don't want to, it just seems like every time I try, I'm too unusual in some way and I get burned... and at some point I just finally learned my lesson.
Oh, sorry about the tangent. ENTP, I think.
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked.
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This was awesome Harry, very interesting! I would definitely love to see more of of this!😄
I can see, in a way (depending on how you look at it) both thinking and feeling being described as both fire and water. But i do agree with this analogy.
I think that divergent feelers would rather burn down thousand bridges and build them from the ground up (literally or inside their head) than go all in to explore those oceans and swim in them. While convergent feelers don't want to get burnt, convergent thinkers don't want to drown. I like this format it's super colorful and interesting, though i generally prefer it not being too archetypal/stereotypical. I think this method can help many people make this information more tangible. As always, im looking forward to videos as usual about the types and cognition, though some can be this way as well! 😃😊
Loving these illustrative pictures!
Harry, I think that it is awesome that you are applying deep elemental archetypes as foundations for the cognitive functions. It is in these elemental archetypes where the truths of the Universe genuinely show up, and where all function and form are created to scaffold higher and more profound truths. As an ESTP with strong divergent NiTi, I strongly align with the direction that this theme builds upon and am pleased to see you traverse down this deeply archetypal and elemental path.
Man this was beautiful. It took me a few repeats but it really hit home with me today. Thanks for all of your thought provoking content, you're awesome!
This was a lovely video! I really enjoy these metaphoric ways to describe cognitive functions, since it helps to build a better, more interconnected understanding of it! I'm looking forward for the geeky content you mentioned! I myself love DnD haha 😄
I find this highly interesting! As an ENF-T/ENTP I've always told people my own experience of my existence is like air, here one day and gone the other to wherever my musings take me. Bravo Harry
Thank you for this video! I often compare my introspection to diving in the deep (maybe in search of Si diamonds :D), so I'm glad to see that indeed Fi is related to water. The elements appear in many systems, such as four temperaments, so it's great that you've adapted this to CPT as well!
Yes Harry! Love your approach; More content! 🔥 💧 ⛰️ 🌪
I also love how poetic this explanation is! Much water! 🌊🤍
My partner and I communicate these kinds of ideas through colors.
Love the poetry that is your explanation of the elements and how they correspond to cognitive functions. The fire element is very appealing to me, but I would be one who would tread not too closely so that I wouldn't get burned. I respect the water element the most. It's so unassuming! With positives of how it quenches thirst and allows us to marvel at its beauty in all of its forms, (lakes. rivers, streams, and oceans) yet also the treacherous aspect of getting in too deep and struggling with the current. Also, when the ocean is so disturbed that it causes a tsunami to form which can make the landscape really dangerous. Thanks for this. A little break from the scientific with a look into the beauty of cognition.
Dude this was so cool! Looking forward to having more neat perspectives like this❤
I always thought of you harry (lol) as a wizard teaching some mystery sorcery haha
Such a beautiful and helpful explanation! Loved it
Fun stuff, pretty cool!
I really like how the Fire = Thinking reveal caught me off guard, it just seemed so easy and obvious(and lazy) that fire would feeling. What with the concepts lika a fiery passion, being warmheated, emotional warmth, burning desire etc.
But i really like the what you did we the rational functions here and stuff like this is just always good fun(as an intellectual excersize), anyways cheers😁
Hey, have you ever considered doing an "ISFJ/ISTJ An Alternate Prospective" video, in the same vein as your "An Alternate Prospective" videos on the ENFP/ENTP? I think those videos would be awesome and well deserved.
Lol when I saw this video my geeky heart 😩😩🤫😱😂😂😂😂😂🥴🥴😂🥴🥴🥴
Fantastic video, Harry, and merry christmas!
Great job on this video. I am looking forward to whatever direction you decide to take the channel. Show us your geeky side!
Best hair yet! Off topic yes I’m aware.
I love this. I've often associated function pairs with certain elements and am happy to see you flesh out your own framework. I cant wait to see you combine the elements, or at least dig more into this :D
This is a more intuitive / less technical way to look at the elements that form the functions. I like it.
I've often envisioned venturing out into the deep or juggling fire. ❤ the imagery, such fun!
Ooh, would love to see a D&D style way of looking at these!
This is going to help me explain to my children the functions in a way that they can understand.
Ti dom here, this fire meta example immediately reminds me of the theological significance of the adversary archatypes, Lucifer, Seth, etc etc. Supposedly as the universe operates on sequences, and repetitive patterns, a "demiurge" or a deity representing matter, perhaps often also viewed as god by Einstein and some aspects of Catholicism. Then theres the opposite, chaos, and as caro jung says, in chaos there is a hidden order. Lucifer or the adversary representing fire, the breaking of sequences, taking a structure which goes up and down, and rendering it a structure which goes left and right.
In this metaphysical example you have a seeming contrast between irrationality and rationality. Very counter to what many would wrongly associate with the 2 words.
I've come to learn that knowing the cognitive functions is a really good tool to learn from and grow, not lock yourself in a box labeled ENTP or ISFP etc.
Awesome video! I like being able to compare the elements with how I feel when I'm with different types of people.
I understand this way of thinking doesn't come naturally to you, but would it be possible for you to give more concrete examples of the functions being used? Even if just the extraverted ones? I feel as though it would be beneficial in the understanding of your theory, especially for those of us in the land of the sensing haha
This was awesome! YES, I absolutely would want to see more of things like this. As for me, I'd be very interested in the geeky side of your interests!
Love the isomorphism between the two systems.
Are you going to write another book in order to deeply elaborate your new ideas?
I would love more videos like this! 😊
I really enjoyed this video. I'm looking forward to more like this 😀
Thank you for your video, your explanations seem very intuitive to me. It baffles me how easily we nowadays disregard the value of e.g. elemental systems, seeing as how so many civilizations in different times and different places stumbled upon that idea on their own, and usually with (more or less) the same collection and interpretation of elements. If it is such a recurring theme in human thinking, not to mention intuitively understandable to pretty much everyone (including many of the most intelligent and creative people throughout history), then to me it seems nonsensical and even arrogant to declare so much of human thought irrelevant or irrational. And if it is such a basic feature of the world (otherwise why would we, a part of the world, come up with it again and again?), then surely it must be prominent, efficaciously or at least by analogy, in more specific aspects of being as well. In this case, psychology. I appreciate your effort of reconciling the two.
Sorry for the wall of text.
I find I become more earth at times or more manic like in another. I did a video on the functions and the Qabalah with Yesod being intuition, Malkuth Sensing, Hod Thinking, and Netzach Feeking, Chesed being positive in charge and Geburah negative in charge, chokmah is extroversion and Binah introversion.
I wonder what FiSi would be...earth beneath the water? 🌊
Or something like diamonds in the ocean? I like to play around with these interpretations :)
Thankyou for making cool videos. I really enjoy listening to your theories. They're always very thought invoking. 😊
Beautifully explained, bravo
I figured out that I'm a heavy si te user... I often find myself dreaming about water and the color blue. I know that John Beebe's research would suggest that it is a hint at strong thinking functions, but perhaps water is linked to si... or perhaps I'm a feeler... heh xD
Anyways, amazing video
Thank you for such content :) very keen perceptions and observations, and the words could only be as good... From now, this paradigm and its understanding can actually be found, reflected and relied upon as a new landmark for the next ride in events; through out our very experience, to know , then to make clearer* choices.
Very good
I've done similar with intuition being wet, and sensing being dry, extraversion being hot, and introversion being cold. This is traditional alchemy. I like you putting the breadth and depth of extraversion and introversion as outside of typical alchemical dichotomies, but I'm not sure if the rational axes and the irrational axes should be grouped together like this. Extraversion and introversion not corrorlating to hot/cold or wet/dry is congruent to CPT ideals because it is a spectrum, but sensing and intuition being in opposite corners with the rational axies in the middle illustrates cognitive elements as ingredients in more complex patterns but it doesn't illiustrate the transmission of one element into another, an indenspensible aspect of alchemy. Without the possibility of Air transmuting into Earth through fire or water you can't have cognitive fluidity.
Hi, I like your content very much, I'm a bit confused between the two types of INTJ and ISFP, can you make a video comparing these two types?
This is so confusing, I think those metaphores make it only too complex. I dont know how to imagine cog functions in such way like being water.
Hi Harry great content! I'd love to see how you'd relate this to a divergent subtype such as myself considering I have both a positive & negative relationship with fire 🔥. I'd even say I have a somewhat ambivalent relationship with water even as an ENFJ which might be surprising to some. I'd love a D&D style video, so happy to see your geeky side coming out! 😊 "if you come down here on water you're generally gonna get hit back," - love this! The irony is I've always been a water baby - great swimmer and confident in my ability to 'master' this element therefore; must be the Fe dominance haha.
Very cool. Quiet, but cool.
I'm finding this very, very interesting and listening to it over and over, because, I read a lot of Ayurvedic reasonings and I have learned that I am Pitta-Vata with imbalanced Vata. Well, it's all imbalanced, but I am so imbalanced in Kapha most people would assume that's what I am.
Pitta is fire and water, Vata is air and space, Kapha is earth and water.
Pitta would then be thinking and feeling, Vata would be intuition, Kapha would be sensing and feeling. I think Vata would also be perceiving, but I did not get that from this video.
I would like to ramble more on the subject, but I don't know enough to know how, yet.
Wow! please continue
I love this video. Im pretty geeky too. 😂
Now that I realize there's an alchemical component to it as well. When water and fire enter into contact with each other that is thinking and feeling and fire evaporates water it creates gas. And since you said that intuition is gas. Could it be then that intuition as gas can be seen as an alchemical product based on the interactions between water and fire?
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This was cool ❤
Socionics calls Ne potential energy and Se kinetic energy.
I would be 🌊 🌬️ 🌎🔥
Great video! I just think the volume is too low? I've noticed that in your recent videos, so it's a bit difficult to hear it without using headphones.
Good video but years of playing Magic: The Gathering have trained me to think of water as thinking and fire as feeling.
Hey i bought your book it's good although i wanna it in pdf, i bought by kindle. Its good your book. thanks for it. I have a idea could you create a cpt community by discord or any other place?
Now to find the link between CPT and astrology
Hi! I have a small question. I'm wondering how compatible MBTI/CPT is with the Enneagram. What I mean is, can some types be contradictory (e.g., INTJ with type 7 or INFP with type 8), or are they more like completely separate systems with no rules about type contradictions?
Better to treat them as separate systems, though a person's core drives/wounds (however people like to refer to them) will probably show up in subtype and aux networks outside of type
Dude looks like a wizard on your cover
Clever model.
Not to refute Harry's function-element correlations, but I've always felt it's easier to correlate the 4 elements with temperaments than directly to cognitive functions, and so, like this:
ExxJ / Extroverted Judging = Choleric = Fire
IxxP / Introverted Judging = Phlegmatic = Water
ExxP / Extroverted Perceiving = Sanguine = Air
IxxJ / Introverted Perceiving = Melancholic = Earth
This was an impressive alternate perspective, thank you for this 😊
Great video!
It's been a while since your last fictional character typing Harry.
Do you have any plan for this?
Maybe GOT? 😅😄
I'm really interested to know your opinion on Jon Snow personality.
Yes and yes!
@@CognitivePersonality Yesssssssss, It's great!
Thank you
Harry did mention Jon Snow as a potential ISTP with a great Fi dip from the dominant Ti in a patreon video which initially I didn't think about but now I'm warming to it.
@@Tified967 Wow, this is new! I thought he is an ISFP! Thank you for your response.👍
Pitta is Thinking/ Feeling, Vata is double Intuition, Kapha is Sensing /Water. I can't make it work. Bummer
I very much would like a video comparing and differentiating INTJs and ENTJs, I am either of the two, I always thought I were an INTJ, but I have been doubting that recently. I've noted how dominant me Te really is in my life and how I'm a lot more reactive to the external world than lost in my own mind.
Is this a more mature INTJ who can make better use of his extroverted functions, or really an ENTJ all along?
Thank you nonetheless
Jung compared Ne to swimming in water.
I prefer CSJ's:
🔥 = Ni
💧 = Ne
Air = Se
Earth = Si.
As the 4 original elements are not rational but are perceived.
Also I would argue 🔥 relates more to feeling than thinking.
And a thirst for knowledge represents 💧.
I would really appreciate to see a type comparison between INTP and INFP. There no video about it in your channel, and i can't figure out why
th-cam.com/video/nNd7o5C8I_k/w-d-xo.html He already has a video about it here.
There actually are a couple! They're just older, so you may have to dig a little. I think the 'INFP vs INTP in 10 minutes' video is particularly good. (Sorry if this was already said in the other reply, which is not showing up for me.)
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@@Multitudes_ damn it, i was trying to say intp and intj, and i don't know how i wrote infp instead...
@@zakariaelidrissi3001 Ah, I see. Yeah, that would probably be useful. I feel like those are quite distinct types in CPT, but they can still get confused, especially for those who have seen too many stereotypical MBTI takes on them.
Words you use are so high and big I'm trying my best to understand 😭
Socionics shows thinking and sensing is external. Feeling and intuition is internal.
Socionics calls the cognitive functions information elements.
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The volume is so low, I can't listen well!
This is marvelous! I’d love to see more videos that expand on this elements-cognitive functions connection! 🪨🌊 💖