The ‘call and response’ patch you created on the Arbhar is amazing-it’s probably my favourite patch I’ve heard on it. Would love to see more of this in the future (or a patch diagram :)
@@wilhelm_yells Hi! Thanks for the kind words. I will try to incorporate more patch diagrams in the future :) The gate pattern of the main synth is a "bouncing ball patch" (not sure if thats the official name): One looping envelope with its release time modulated by a second envelope. In the beginning the release time is short so many envelopes are triggered, the longer the release time becomes, less envelopes will be triggered. Make Noise Maths is an easy module to set this up with / I am actually explaining this gate sequence in more detail in my next video coming out end of the week :)
Thanks for making this! Exactly what I needed. I typically use the Morphagene as the path to run my OP-1 Field into my Modular. I find that my Morphagene has a really loud noise floor so it’s difficult to record. Is that just mine? Is your Arbhar more quiet?
I normally prepare my samples in a DAW and put them on the SD card for use, just to avoid any noise problems in modular - so i cannot comment much on the noisefloor of the Arbhar. The OP-1 is line level. Line levels occassionaly need a bit of special treatment in modular because they are comparatively quiet. The Morphagene has multiple input gain settings you can change, maybe try the +6dB setting, or run the OP-1 into a pre-amp you trust.
Thanks! That was cool! You have actually shown what Morphagene can do... I didn't get it before (typical for me with MN modules....). Damn, another to add to the ever growing list!
Very nice comparison video. Came here thinking the Morphagene was what I was looking for, but now I’m intrigued by Arbhar. I’ve already got Mojave and Beads, so I feel covered in terms of granular textures, but this seems to being another level of control
Glad to hear the video helped! Yeah, I would say Arbhar and Morphagene are quite different to Mojave and Beads as Mojave and Beads focus on granular live processing whereas I normally use Arbhar and Morphagene with pre-made samples. Mixing 6 samples into one granular cloud is what stands out on the Arbhar for me, whereas the Morphagene will give you a very different flavour of sample slicing compared to the other 3. I think it comes down to how big your Eurorack case is, much you love the granular sound and if you can justify having a third granular engine.
@@TheSoundConvergence yeah all great points for sure. I'm in the process of trying to put together a compact 64HP ambient system, so space is limited. Likely gonna grab a uBurst to accompany Morphagene to still get that granular flavor while maintaining a small footprint. So many ways of doing things! Thanks again for the reply and the great video.
Morphagene was the reason why I became an eurorack junkie, so much so that I will get a Morphagene tatoo in a month. I also own arbahr. both will stay in my system forever. Gosh I love these 2 modules. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
As an amateur engineer, for a while I was seeing digital emulation as the end of advancing a lot of underdeveloped technologies but fortunately "maker" culture has actually resulted in the slow growing advancement and popularity of systems stylized in tradition but provided modern advancements. *It's a huge difference between a simulation on a touch screen and actual hardware that does what the simulation replicates due to the way most people learn and remember.* Even with such impressive simulations, *dedicated hardware is still superior and still far from going out of style or being left behind by technological advancements.*
I feel embarrassed to ask but can you tell me which module is to the left of the Arbhar 2hp expander? Is it an Instruo licensed module or a third party expander of Arbhar by chance? Thanks so much and I really enjoyed this video. I hope you continue uploading these quality videos. 🙏🙏❤️❤️
It's the relatively new USB expander by Instruo! It is now part of every Arbhar you buy (marketed Arbhar 2.0) or can be bought separately for 100€-ish. All it does is it makes the USB input from the back of the Arbhar available on the front, for easy sample swapping via USB stick.
Totally, Arbhar is in regular mode (not follower mode) and the intensity is set to 0. In the patch a gate triggers 2 envelopes, the first envelope is controlling a VCA and with that the volume of my main synthesizer. The second envelope is set up to increase Arbhars intensity value once envelope 1 is falling and we can barely hear the synth anymore. So in the patch you will hear either main synth or Arbhar at a time. It is call and response because whenever the main synth is playing it is also recorded into the Arbhar (you can see the record button is on at those times), so when it is Arbhars time to play, it will repeat and granularize the synthesizer phrase just heard, thus call and response. Hope that helps!
@@NoahLifMusic The synth that is heard playing before the Arbhar's response is also routed into the Arbhar - the Arbhar records that synth sound and plays it back changed a few moments later.
I have a Morphagene, but I don't have an Arbhar. You did a great job clarifying their strengths and differences. Plus you present some nice Morphagene techniques.
@@sebastianlexer4591 sadly it doesn't. it's a slow and clumsy way of repitching that could otherwise be fun and musical. Just would be great to have the option. If you plug a 1v/oct CV source in then it's super cool. Just would be nice to do that with the knob that's already on the module. I work with a lot of other musicians and producers and i'm scared to touch the pitch knob because retuning with accuracy is difficult, and since the new pitch only plays with the next triggered grain i'm just sat there nudging it this way and that trying to get it close and totally unable to play melodically with the knob. Don't get me wrong, i love the module otherwise! Just would really love to see this feature added. And to control the onboard reverb with a button hold + knob twist would be great, so as to not need a whole other module just to add some verb.
@pico_cole, can you not just patch some offset (from an attenuator, joy stick, whatever) into the v/oct and twist that instead? Dont really understand the issue
Excellent indepth dive. Thank you for your effort.
The ‘call and response’ patch you created on the Arbhar is amazing-it’s probably my favourite patch I’ve heard on it. Would love to see more of this in the future (or a patch diagram :)
And actually, how are you creating that gate pattern?
@@wilhelm_yells Hi! Thanks for the kind words. I will try to incorporate more patch diagrams in the future :)
The gate pattern of the main synth is a "bouncing ball patch" (not sure if thats the official name): One looping envelope with its release time modulated by a second envelope. In the beginning the release time is short so many envelopes are triggered, the longer the release time becomes, less envelopes will be triggered. Make Noise Maths is an easy module to set this up with / I am actually explaining this gate sequence in more detail in my next video coming out end of the week :)
@@TheSoundConvergence fabulous! Yes have seen this patch long ago. I’ll try this again!
Keep up the great work
Thanks for making this! Exactly what I needed. I typically use the Morphagene as the path to run my OP-1 Field into my Modular. I find that my Morphagene has a really loud noise floor so it’s difficult to record. Is that just mine? Is your Arbhar more quiet?
I normally prepare my samples in a DAW and put them on the SD card for use, just to avoid any noise problems in modular - so i cannot comment much on the noisefloor of the Arbhar.
The OP-1 is line level. Line levels occassionaly need a bit of special treatment in modular because they are comparatively quiet. The Morphagene has multiple input gain settings you can change, maybe try the +6dB setting, or run the OP-1 into a pre-amp you trust.
Subscribed! Thanx for the good quality content! Would be nice to see more of your exact Patching in the future. Its easier to follow.
Thank you for the feedback, will try to show the full patches in the future!
Thanks! That was cool! You have actually shown what Morphagene can do... I didn't get it before (typical for me with MN modules....). Damn, another to add to the ever growing list!
Glad to hear that. Totally agree that the layout of all MN modules is just confusing, but they are so hands-on once you spend some time with them!
Very nice comparison video. Came here thinking the Morphagene was what I was looking for, but now I’m intrigued by Arbhar. I’ve already got Mojave and Beads, so I feel covered in terms of granular textures, but this seems to being another level of control
Glad to hear the video helped! Yeah, I would say Arbhar and Morphagene are quite different to Mojave and Beads as Mojave and Beads focus on granular live processing whereas I normally use Arbhar and Morphagene with pre-made samples. Mixing 6 samples into one granular cloud is what stands out on the Arbhar for me, whereas the Morphagene will give you a very different flavour of sample slicing compared to the other 3. I think it comes down to how big your Eurorack case is, much you love the granular sound and if you can justify having a third granular engine.
@@TheSoundConvergence yeah all great points for sure. I'm in the process of trying to put together a compact 64HP ambient system, so space is limited. Likely gonna grab a uBurst to accompany Morphagene to still get that granular flavor while maintaining a small footprint. So many ways of doing things! Thanks again for the reply and the great video.
Subscribed.....looking forward to more quality content such as this!
Thank you for the kind words!
Awesome stuff! Subscribed, thanks!
good video/ Just got eh arbhar next to my morphagene, sharing your experience helps alot.
Glad it helped!
Morphagene was the reason why I became an eurorack junkie, so much so that I will get a Morphagene tatoo in a month. I also own arbahr. both will stay in my system forever. Gosh I love these 2 modules. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
As an amateur engineer, for a while I was seeing digital emulation as the end of advancing a lot of underdeveloped technologies but fortunately "maker" culture has actually resulted in the slow growing advancement and popularity of systems stylized in tradition but provided modern advancements.
*It's a huge difference between a simulation on a touch screen and actual hardware that does what the simulation replicates due to the way most people learn and remember.*
Even with such impressive simulations, *dedicated hardware is still superior and still far from going out of style or being left behind by technological advancements.*
great Video ! thank you
Brilliant video.
I feel embarrassed to ask but can you tell me which module is to the left of the Arbhar 2hp expander? Is it an Instruo licensed module or a third party expander of Arbhar by chance? Thanks so much and I really enjoyed this video. I hope you continue uploading these quality videos. 🙏🙏❤️❤️
It's the relatively new USB expander by Instruo! It is now part of every Arbhar you buy (marketed Arbhar 2.0) or can be bought separately for 100€-ish. All it does is it makes the USB input from the back of the Arbhar available on the front, for easy sample swapping via USB stick.
Can you share anymore on the call and response patch, really nice just don’t follow 100% how you’ve set this up and what mode arbhar is in?
Totally, Arbhar is in regular mode (not follower mode) and the intensity is set to 0. In the patch a gate triggers 2 envelopes, the first envelope is controlling a VCA and with that the volume of my main synthesizer. The second envelope is set up to increase Arbhars intensity value once envelope 1 is falling and we can barely hear the synth anymore. So in the patch you will hear either main synth or Arbhar at a time. It is call and response because whenever the main synth is playing it is also recorded into the Arbhar (you can see the record button is on at those times), so when it is Arbhars time to play, it will repeat and granularize the synthesizer phrase just heard, thus call and response. Hope that helps!
@@TheSoundConvergence Thank you for this. I see a patch into the capture input -- what is feeding this?
@@NoahLifMusic The synth that is heard playing before the Arbhar's response is also routed into the Arbhar - the Arbhar records that synth sound and plays it back changed a few moments later.
Nicely done.
I have a Morphagene, but I don't have an Arbhar. You did a great job clarifying their strengths and differences. Plus you present some nice Morphagene techniques.
Excellent vid 🙏❤️
Subbed! Always ask myself if I need a morphagene too :)
Morphagene for rythmik and abhar Textur es
Love it
Short and concise! Exactly how I normally use them, too.
@9:04 this is bad ass
subscribed!
Well its like they say...get both.
Arbhar is the right for me, i just suck at it :)
Arbhar is forward thinking,
greeting
Okay, so... both I guess.
The inability of Arbhar to retune via the pitch knob in quantized steps is maddening, otherwise great module. Just always out of tune
Quantised steps are available in the latest firmware when using Track&Hold feature! Hope that helps.
@@sebastianlexer4591 sadly it doesn't. it's a slow and clumsy way of repitching that could otherwise be fun and musical. Just would be great to have the option. If you plug a 1v/oct CV source in then it's super cool. Just would be nice to do that with the knob that's already on the module. I work with a lot of other musicians and producers and i'm scared to touch the pitch knob because retuning with accuracy is difficult, and since the new pitch only plays with the next triggered grain i'm just sat there nudging it this way and that trying to get it close and totally unable to play melodically with the knob. Don't get me wrong, i love the module otherwise! Just would really love to see this feature added. And to control the onboard reverb with a button hold + knob twist would be great, so as to not need a whole other module just to add some verb.
@@pico_cole Have you contacted instruo with a feature request about that?
@pico_cole, can you not just patch some offset (from an attenuator, joy stick, whatever) into the v/oct and twist that instead? Dont really understand the issue