When can I insist on working from home? [LBC Legal Hour]

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  • @DankanCerisolaThe_Police2024
    @DankanCerisolaThe_Police2024 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are absolutely brilliant brilliant brilliant.

  • @cheeky_monkey_No1
    @cheeky_monkey_No1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wasnt there an update on the flexible working making it a day 1 request and employers were to agree unless it affects business?

    • @pizzaboy4463
      @pizzaboy4463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The right is after 26 weeks. It's a procedural right with no need to justify unless it amounts to indirect sex discrimination or a failure to make reasonable adjustments for a disabled worker.

    • @languageoffootball
      @languageoffootball 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I think the day one right to request comes in this year.

  • @harrismazari5484
    @harrismazari5484 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I work for a great boss, our office has a 3 day work in office policy but she allowed me to come in only 2 days.

  • @roodersclive8654
    @roodersclive8654 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The law has changed since this call I believe?

  • @maccybear8093
    @maccybear8093 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The day my company loses its head and says we're going back to the office full-time is the day I'll hand in my notice. Thank god I'm working for decent people now and they've made it clear many times, we are not going back to the office like some donkeys are!

    • @neojng
      @neojng 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same here, compnay is doing SO well with flexabile working, eveyones so much more happy and the in office visits are so much more productive.

    • @pottr147
      @pottr147 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neojng It's not your gift to give.

    • @neojng
      @neojng หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pottr147 wat

    • @pottr147
      @pottr147 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you don't own the company, you don't get to decide the practices of the business you work for.

    • @neojng
      @neojng หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pottr147 well you kinda do, I am a shareholder but also the workforce refuse to do something replacing them would be way to costly for the business. We have already hired 3 new devs that left their last business purely because they wanted them back in the office, these new devs have been brilliant and super productive.

  • @daryls43
    @daryls43 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Who on earth would be a boss, I'm glad I work on a building site, people like these wouldn't last a minute 😂😂

  • @Danfrank24
    @Danfrank24 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No wonder the country’s on its arse. Imagine saying on national radio I suffer anxiety when in an office setting. I mean get a grip. Go to work or don’t pal your choice.

  • @coderider3022
    @coderider3022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My hr told me to get the requests from my team, wait 3 months then reject on team work requirements. Dean, move on to another company. If you can work from home, you can do it for another company too.

  • @Chris-im3ys
    @Chris-im3ys ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This comment section is gammon central today. Everybody is frothing at the mouth, angry at the idea that working from home just might be less awful.

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wfh is so isolating. Its not healthy to spend all day in your bed room.

    • @funkknuckle
      @funkknuckle หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@nifralo2752 in your opinion

    • @shamimanon6591
      @shamimanon6591 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nifralo2752 being around people like you is not healthy.

    • @harrismazari5484
      @harrismazari5484 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@nifralo2752 Thats so true especially considering your room is in your mum's basement it must get very depressing for you. For others, we have dedicated office space in our houses and loved ones to talk to during breaks.

    • @shatteredteethofgod
      @shatteredteethofgod 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@nifralo2752Most people who work from home don't do that. They tend to have lives. What's your excuse?

  • @DigitalDaffodil
    @DigitalDaffodil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can’t insist anything
    It’s all about what your company wants and where they need you
    I’d you can’t, for a medical reason
    Get a medical note

  • @jekw23
    @jekw23 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you’re contracted out and there’s a clause to work from the office then that’s it.
    You can argue the right and wrong of it but if it’s mandated then I don’t think you can get around it.

  • @TerryPavlou
    @TerryPavlou 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t get it. Imagine going into work to work

    • @shatteredteethofgod
      @shatteredteethofgod 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would it be necessary if the work can be done from home? Requiring office attendance benefits no one. Employers have to pay the cost of subsidizing travel as well as renting and maintaining office space. Employees are more stressed, less productive and pay monetary costs as well.
      The economic reality of the situation is that offices don't need to exist for jobs that can be done remotely, and that they shouldn't. Imagine what could be done with all the money people spend propping up an employment model that has been irrelevant and ridiculous for DECADES.
      So, you don't get very much of anything clearly. For a massive number of jobs working from home is an objectively superior model from every angle. Employee health and productivity increase, employer costs decrease, untold amounts of money are unlocked from real estate purchasing and maintaince along with all the other costs associated with requiring an office work force that can then be redirected in more profitable directions.
      There is no argument against working from home when it is viable for a position, it simply doesn't make any sense to oppose. You're just afraid of change.

    • @paulreading8980
      @paulreading8980 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Quite simply because productivity of people “working” from home is abysmal it is commonly abused even to the point where people have got their partners to move their mouse so that the employers monitoring software detects activity. You only need to look at the terrible state of HMRC since their staff stopped turning up to work, good luck getting anyone to pick up a phone and they don’t respond to hand written letters. Good luck with a passport that is not ordered on-line because there are few people turning up to deal with physical requests. This country is going to hell in a hand cart, we need to get everyone back in the office full time and get productivity up.

    • @paulreading8980
      @paulreading8980 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Also it is not energy efficient. Heating a lighting a single building with densely packed humans is for more efficient that heating 500 homes with people working from homes. There are many studies on this.
      Lastly I can tell you that I live in the Surrey hills and it has been a complete joke here since covid there are hundreds of cyclists on Fridays riding all over the hills, some in organised packs some with friends and nearly all young people in their thirties not retired people or students who are too lazy to get out of bed. These are quite clearly people “working” from home.

  • @goodolekayjay6096
    @goodolekayjay6096 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They first 15 seconds tells you everything you need to know about the caller… listen to how he frames his stance.
    Flexibilities we’re offered to people by necessity at the time, but now many are interpreting them as an entitlement!
    It’s the company who principally facilitates the employment opportunity, not the other way round. Employees must adhere to conditions set out by the company, assuming ethical conduct etc, and any resentment should become a catalyst to seek employment elsewhere.
    In the case of this caller, I’d STRONGLY suggest he makes himself as valuable as possible right now as proof readers of formal materials are absolutely at risk of being replaced by AI.

  • @AlexBell1991
    @AlexBell1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There always looking for a new job if you aren't happy with it.

  • @originalsuccessjournal8723
    @originalsuccessjournal8723 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will take it inissoles, army, navy or any other collatral at my figer tops. I will take fully paid property, and exclude surfdom. Thank you.

    • @harrismazari5484
      @harrismazari5484 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      can you kindly write that in grown up?

  • @eccentricity9697
    @eccentricity9697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And this is why I work for myself. My life, of which we only get one, and I live it on my terms.
    Just been living in Thailand and Vietnam for the past 9 months.
    Life is just better when you take full responsibility for every aspect of your life, especially how you make your money.

    • @brianbale9511
      @brianbale9511 ปีที่แล้ว

      That life style is your choice and its your opinion

    • @eccentricity9697
      @eccentricity9697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianbale9511 It's brilliant 🙂
      I hear people complaining about their bosses and work colleagues
      I hear people complaining about their job and customers.
      I hear people complaining they aren't paid enough.
      I rarely hear people say they really like or love their job.
      Me and my Partner are living our absolute best lives.
      Loving almost every minute of it.
      When asked how things are going or what it's like working from home or while travelling, we respond life couldn't be better.
      So yes, whilst it may be my opinion, not only does it work for us, but it seems most people are not as fulfilled or as happy as us with their current work situation.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@brianbale9511 that is his opinion, and his life, it obviously works for them it could work for others to, and his opinion is as valid as yours.

    • @andyptv1996
      @andyptv1996 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well good for you, that's the dream. Not all of us have that option.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andyptv1996 exactly.

  • @thomasdalton1508
    @thomasdalton1508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't a failure to consider an application for flexibility fairly and reasonably be a breach of trust and confidence? It seems ridiculous that tribunals don't consider anything other box ticking.

    • @amritlohia8240
      @amritlohia8240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A tribunal doesn't have a general jurisdiction to consider breaches of trust and confidence. It can only consider such breaches through the prism of a claim for constructive dismissal.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amritlohia8240 Agreed, that would be the route to get it before a tribunal. You could just go to county court with a breach of contract claim, I believe, but that would probably need a lawyer and you would be risking costs.

    • @amritlohia8240
      @amritlohia8240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasdalton1508 Yes. Of course in practice, bringing such a breach of contract claim may well provoke a dismissal - ironically, on grounds of breakdown of trust and confidence.

    • @shez4058
      @shez4058 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, as an employer although must give consideration to a FWR, there is no obligation for them to accept it, if they can show a business need. Unless, the reason you were asking for a FWR was due to a protected characterstic under the EQA 2010 (such as disability) then that request should take form by way of reasonable adjustments and not a FWR.

    • @amritlohia8240
      @amritlohia8240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shez4058 Thomas Dalton's question proposed a failure to give such consideration. It didn't concern any "obligation to accept it".

  • @Asif24960
    @Asif24960 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What a horrible employee. Wouldn’t want to recruit him

  • @thecamil10
    @thecamil10 ปีที่แล้ว

    No legal right to appeal a flexible working request, but in general employers allow it.

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When it says you can in your contract.

  • @andrewlevett4274
    @andrewlevett4274 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just grow a pair and go to work!

  • @DigitalDaffodil
    @DigitalDaffodil ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go and do your work, at work

  • @holdenmcgroin3995
    @holdenmcgroin3995 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um

  • @brianbale9511
    @brianbale9511 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stop the 2020 excuses and work in the office its easy pickings sitting in your home feet up 😮😮😮

  • @tracer1127
    @tracer1127 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Remember back to when men were men, what a load of snowflakes some of us have become. Dear me it’s embarrassing, the previous generation and the generations before them would never have even thought of some of the crap people come up with today. Get back to work like the rest of us. Never mind lodging an appeal it’s beyond me why they haven’t given you the sack because clearly you are not suitable for the job roll. I suffer with a bad back,aching joints and bad knees, I man up and go to work every day and get on with it.

    • @1471perry
      @1471perry ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i totally agree with u and i bet u anything he is going to go on sick leave because work is to stressful for him

    • @MrWillyMrBrightside
      @MrWillyMrBrightside ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, when men were men! Not whinging about things in TH-cam comments

    • @tracer1127
      @tracer1127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1471perry yes it’s funny how you never hear of a self employed person having time off with the reasons as someone who gets paid each week and has sick pay etc.

    • @shamimanon6591
      @shamimanon6591 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      wow who is a big boy? you are! well done!

  • @christophergray1977
    @christophergray1977 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Get back to work! What is happening with office workers these days? I’m a gardener and like many others have no choice unlike these snowflakes who appear to be frightened of their shadows.

    • @MrWillyMrBrightside
      @MrWillyMrBrightside ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surely if you're a gardener you deal with a lot more snowflakes? Well during winter, that's for sure. Don't tend to get much snow in the summer I'll tell you that for free

    • @barryboom717
      @barryboom717 ปีที่แล้ว

      We'll get an office job then and stop moaning in the TH-cam comments about home workers you snowflake.

  • @Nightstalker321
    @Nightstalker321 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dean needs to go down to B&Q and see if he can buy a backbone or pop down to boots and buy a load of tampons

    • @richardhands904
      @richardhands904 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You need to go pick up a pack of gammon, although I suspect you already have that in droves.

    • @P.G.Wodelouse
      @P.G.Wodelouse ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardhands904 Nice racist language you lot never fail in your bigotry

    • @illnamethisaccountlater4762
      @illnamethisaccountlater4762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Such a random comment, that is irrelevant

    • @Danfrank24
      @Danfrank24 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@richardhands904Dean just wants to be at home bollocks he’s got anxiety from being in the office he’s frightened of work nothing else.