Queen Rhaenyra's Tax Policy (Dance Of The Dragons) Game Of Thrones History & Lore

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  • Things were going well for Rhaenrya, she had take Kings Landing and claimed the Iron Throne. Aegon was still wounded and missing and she had captured most of the green council. But she did have on huge issue. A lack of Money. With the greens hiding the wealth of house targaryen across the seven kingdoms. There was only one thing to do. Tax
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  • @aegonii8471
    @aegonii8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    This right here is when Rhaenyra lost the war.

    • @evannesbitt7852
      @evannesbitt7852 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Couldn't be helped with the Green sabotage of dividing the treasury.

    • @ktbecstasy
      @ktbecstasy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep 👍

    • @ktbecstasy
      @ktbecstasy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But she had little choice given the situation the greens left her in

    • @SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru
      @SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​​@@ktbecstasyShe could have perhaps asked for a loan from her wealthier allies or from the iron bank perhaps .It was her inability to solve the problem at-hand which had lost her the war and they were in the midst of a war .Of course they would do what they can to screw over the opposing side such as splitting the royal treasury .Perhaps it would have been better if she didn't threw lavish parties when the masses were literally starving due to over-taxation and didn't have a inept master of coin like celtigar guy

    • @michaelyohanes2782
      @michaelyohanes2782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😅 there again blame the green when city is entirely yours ​@@evannesbitt7852

  • @tereza1959
    @tereza1959 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Rhaenyra should have learned from Aragorn, you can only be a good and wise ruler if you don't have tax policies

    • @user-ek5mq7qp5q
      @user-ek5mq7qp5q 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We don't need to hear it, how Aragorn rule is well represented by how he leads his men to battle, Character already flesh out

  • @bryansylvestrew5024
    @bryansylvestrew5024 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Yeah taxing the merchants and traders after forcing a blockade is a sure fire way to get overthrown by the people.. A grade move bythe greens in the long term.

    • @evannesbitt7852
      @evannesbitt7852 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wealthy merchants probably don't constitute a sizeable enough percentage of the population to storm the Dragonpit.

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@evannesbitt7852 Nope, but they can influence a sizable portion of the population to storm the DragonPit.
      To be honest, The Riots of King's Landing reminds me a lot of The Nika Riots in Constantinople.
      Where some rich politicians were influencing the populace to overthrow the current Emperor.
      The riots also originally stemmed from some Chariot matches, its a whole crazy thing, you should actually look into its really interesting.

  • @P-C-Principle
    @P-C-Principle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Maegor’s teets is hilarious

  • @innerpeacefindings671
    @innerpeacefindings671 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    No wonder her nickname is Rhanerya The Cruel. 😊

  • @Morfe02
    @Morfe02 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Argentina policy in 2024, i can confirm

  • @michelm5072
    @michelm5072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    In the books they say whose idea was it to take the gold? It was a very clever move. Smells like Larys Strong or Lannister

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      While safekeeping them in the vaults of the Green houses, keeping them from KL to Braavos is hard or shady considering the entire ordeal that is the blockade and the Triarchy (and it's demise)

  • @ykmani.5860
    @ykmani.5860 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Was there anyway for Rhaenyra to obtain coin without taxing the peasants so much and not gaining the peasants hate.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      maybe if they had enough time, but Aegon and Tyland really did a good job moving the gold, plus the iron bank would not have been a possibly for her so i guess it really was her last resort

    • @zawwin1846
      @zawwin1846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      IOU, fight for me and I will give you the traitor land.

    • @thesecondsilvereich7828
      @thesecondsilvereich7828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Debasement was one way

    • @normtrooper4392
      @normtrooper4392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Seizure of the lands and estates of the traitors

  • @CyberJoeyO
    @CyberJoeyO 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This seems like an echo of the Nika riots in 532 BCE. During the reign of Byzantine Emperor Justinian the first.
    There were rowdy chariot races going on that turned into huge riots against the increasingly unpopular Emperor.
    The riots got so bad that much of Constantinople was damaged and Justinian considered leaving, until his wife convinced him to stay when they were on the docks about to depart on a ship.

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would not surprise me at all if that was George R R Martin's inspiration, the story is full of simlar real world parallels

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh....well someone else made the connection 5 months before I did.

  • @Llegando_Tarde
    @Llegando_Tarde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ty good videos

  • @nunyabusiness6693
    @nunyabusiness6693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    If you are crazy or lazy the throne will cut you.

  • @redadmiralofvalyria867
    @redadmiralofvalyria867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "But love & hate are two faces of the same 🪙" never truer a word for the dance of dragons 🐉

  • @ryanelliott71698
    @ryanelliott71698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Me a tax assistant.
    “Ooh interesting.”

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Fire and Blood is surprisingly in-depth when it comes to tax and the impact of the economy in general

    • @ajaverill08
      @ajaverill08 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Probably because George mentions wanting to know what Aragorn's tax plan was and how he would rule in every day things

  • @catmonarchist8920
    @catmonarchist8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This is economic suicide

    • @whisky_icarus8731
      @whisky_icarus8731 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They stole all her money she had no choice. It was a good way to trap her.

    • @MalikF15
      @MalikF15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whisky_icarus8731 yes but after a bloody war most people don’t want taxes. She could have tried to get a loan from the iron bank.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@whisky_icarus8731 She could have been far more strategic on her taxes and spending. Like less lavish feasts for her sons.

    • @chuckn4851
      @chuckn4851 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@whisky_icarus8731 Lol I love how y'all just go to "hurrr she had no choice." Nah man, borrow from the Iron Bank, call in debts from allies, hell borrow from those allies. Then she wouldn't have needed to tax as hard, plus as the other person said she could have done faaar better on her own unnecessary spendings.

    • @CaligulatheEmperor
      @CaligulatheEmperor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whisky_icarus8731 I guess starving people to death just so you can sit in a chair is good as long as a girl boss is doing it let’s see you keep that same energy with real world people like Kim Jong Un

  • @Qbgarden
    @Qbgarden ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like that we get to see which story tellers know what they're talking about because of the show, so we know which maesters words can be trusted for other events.

    • @PzY-Reviews
      @PzY-Reviews 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Only mushroom dosnt lie

    • @stew-03
      @stew-03 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The book and show are separate canons. GRRM stated that himself.

  • @happycake2234
    @happycake2234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    It’s quite hypocritical in a sense that the Lords who supported a woman’s right to write to the throne didn’t support women in general potentially inheriting the lands and titles which is interesting and I think it’s quite a bit of a hilarious hypocritical irony

    • @happycake2234
      @happycake2234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *Inherit the throne

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      it all comes down to what suites them politically at the time. Backing Rhaenyra helped them in some way, while backing women in a wider sense was not in there best interests.

    • @happycake2234
      @happycake2234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@WorldOfWesteros good point and I have a question where do you think this entire situation of women’s rights to the throne really began?

    • @connormurphy8230
      @connormurphy8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Faith of the seven maybe or maybe the chances of dying in childbirth leaving a young child in charge and all the troubles that bring
      So men became a better choice even though they could die young as well

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would think with Rhaena. She was the first born child of a king, but her younger brother was made king. There were those who commented Rhaena was first born, but Aegon the uncrowned was always acknowledged as Aenys heir. Marrying Aegon and Rhaena solved the issue until Argon is killed by Maegor then Jaehaerys is named king by Rogar Baratheon. There was a argument then the Rhanea's daughter by Aegon should be Queen, but it was again clear most of the realm was backing Jaehaerys and there was a legitimate argument that Aegon was never crowned, but it was very reaching. All we can know for sure is Rhanea definitely felt her or her daughter should have been queen. But its not until we get to Rhaenys vs Viserys for the crown we had what i would call a real solid case where Rhaenys definitely had a legitimate case. In the heir is who the king wants the heir to be, or who at the time of the kings death has the most political backing, hence why we get a situation like the dance of dragons.

  • @holly-hobbiest3141
    @holly-hobbiest3141 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Corlys could of knighted balea or rhaena as queens

  • @rleonardgreen78
    @rleonardgreen78 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    She had no choice really. The Hightowers looted the majority of the gold from Kings landing.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      She should have chosen a better Master of Coin. And been more strategic on taxes.

    • @Heisenberg882
      @Heisenberg882 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      She could've not thrown lavish parties while the people starved.

    • @chuckn4851
      @chuckn4851 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol there were so many options like they stated. Also she could have called in debts, borrowed from allies, hell borrow from the damn Iron Bank. Anything would have been better. Literally ANYTHING.

  • @Riku-zv5dk
    @Riku-zv5dk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wars are expensive endeavours, as they say.

  • @Argos-xb8ek
    @Argos-xb8ek หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What should Rhaenyra have done to address this

    • @technoswitch3296
      @technoswitch3296 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Borrow loans from her leal lords ,Iron banks is one.
      Not throw lavish feats.
      Maybe she could also have seized some of fallen green's land

  • @deviousalemanni4235
    @deviousalemanni4235 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She should have given the lordships.

  • @thesecondsilvereich7828
    @thesecondsilvereich7828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If she needed money she could of debased the gold n silver.

  • @jlshel42
    @jlshel42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious how HotD will handle this. Perhaps an honest master of coin with agents who run wild, or whispers from the Clubfoot, or price gougers at inns and brothels

    • @luizandrade6900
      @luizandrade6900 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rhaenyra and her council are more than capable of being incompetent without any help.
      Although I fear the writers are either going to skip this plotline entirely (unlikely) or heavly change it like you said, to try to show her in a more sympathetic light as they have done for two whole seasons.

    • @Mutazili
      @Mutazili หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@luizandrade6900 They will make it like its not her fault but the 'mEn' around her...

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Mutazili I sadly believe you guys are right, they'll make Rhaenyra look good and will actually see that "it was really such and such's fault" which is really annoying.
      It makes her so less interesting, Rhaenyra in the books is far better because she has actual moral ambiguity, and I say that as a Black Council supporter.

  • @simonbrushes
    @simonbrushes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Pretty sure they are going to skip Rhaenyra getting stout in the show because of childbirth. It’s unnecessary and doesn’t add to the plot.

    • @slis3578
      @slis3578 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Unfortunately,
      No way would HBO want someone “stout” as the star of their show.
      And of course, none of the fans would want that either.

    • @anitat9727
      @anitat9727 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@slis3578 Which is sad tbh. It kinda adds to the hatred between them

  • @stefanciocan1605
    @stefanciocan1605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    House of the Dragon will be a disaster...I have this feeling..

    • @WorldOfWesteros
      @WorldOfWesteros  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I do have to admit, the more casting i've seen the more worried i've become, i won't judge till i've seen it, but i do worry there not going to stick to the source material which is where game of thrones fell flat. Ultimately the casting has been very underwhelming.

    • @billychops1280
      @billychops1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah my expectations aren’t super high for that show

    • @jakehames727
      @jakehames727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@WorldOfWesteros I saw they'd cast Steve Toussaint as Corlys Velaryon which is strange considering the Velaryons are related to Targaryens and even share similar traits to them. Maybe the shows diverging from the source material. It wouldn't be the first time.

    • @22s22a
      @22s22a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Have a feeling this comment won't age well

    • @stefanciocan1605
      @stefanciocan1605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@22s22a honestly ...? We shall see