I have just traded in my Giulietta QV for a Giulia veloce, at first I missed the exhaust note the Giulietta QV made, then you look at the difference in the cars, the Giulia is alot more refined, it's not in your face loud, I find it a lovely place to be then you put your foot down and then you get a huge smile, it's a cracking car, I love mine, and god its quick.
Since this is the car I personally own, I love this car. Its a supreme sport sedan. I have mine equipped with all the carbon fiber pieces as well. Great video Stef!
A stock Ti here in the States will do 60 in 5.1 sec. My Q4 with a $300 piggyback runs 4.4 to 60 with no fuss, which is damn close to QV real world numbers. The QV has the sound and fear factor, but is leagues more expensive to buy and run. Used Tis offering reliable Ferrari engineering for less than 30 grand are an unbeatable enthusiast bargain.
You are correct. For some reason the 2019 models can get to 60 in 4.7 sec. The published time of 5.1 is conservative. It depends on the tires they come with. The stickier tires launch the car a bit faster. These are great cars.
Celtic tuning remap plus exhaust filter upgrade and race mode added and you're up to 350 bhp and low 4's 0 to 60. Map off the limiter and you're up to very very fast top speed too.
I have a 2017 base Giulia, which has the 280 bhp motor in the US. I love it. I tried an aftermarket exhaust but I did not like the tone. Bottom line, it costs a hell of a lot more to get the Quadrafoglio and the 4 cylinder is quick enough for me, old fart that I am.
280 is more than enough on UK roads and hopefully will keep you licence too. The look is amazing, something the Germans will be jealous of. It’s not all about outright speed, handling means a lot more, it’s probably why the Golf Gti is still popular too.
Very nice review, Stef!! In regards with the Giulia Veloce, it's an amazing car. Bought it couple of months ago, couldn't be happier, an absolute dream to drive. Yes, it desperately need an exhaust, but that is part of the charm of later upgrade projects. Also, very much appreciate that you have taken the time to reply to my email from some time ago, when asking about Giulia's steering feel. Thanks again, mate ;)
Greetings from the snow belt, Nebraska, USA. AWD is worth much more than excessive horsepower at the many critical times when I have to get to work. The Giulia Q4 has served me perfectly for 3 years now.
The Veloce is a sensible man's QV, running cost is sensible considering that the speed limit is 20 to 70 mph in the UK and if you reside in London then you will never use the QV up to its potentials stuck in traffic. 280 bhp is more than enough power for the average driver plus the prospect of tuning it and resonate deletes can transform the Veloce. I tried to trick my wife into getting it as our second car two years ago with no joy. Thanks Stef for bring it back to my consciousness.
In the USA this is the Ti Sport model. My 2018 has all the same options except the carbon package (I did add the CF rear spoiler though). Mine is the 4 wheel Drive version. Have 17,000 trouble-free miles on it and loving it! Great video Stef and stay safe from the Plague!
Hi Martyn, good to see you here. We sure do love our Giulia's! We had to turn back in our 2017 lease (2 yr) but we leased another 2019 Giulia. This one has the nero edition pack and I installed all the carbon fiber pieces, it looks great in red! Take care
Nice video! I own a Ti Sport and to tell you the truth I love the sound of it. It has a sporty sound and not to loud. This is just my opinion though. Thanks for the video.
Hi mate it’s Gary from south beach recycling on insta. So I got a veloce after my abarth comp. I’ve got used to the sound after a few months. It’s so much more comfortable as well. Sometimes it doesn’t feel as fast on the motorway it’s just more capable, but where I live in the country on the twistys, it’s phenomenal. I recommend it. I wish I could have had both but this is a fantastic car, and a gateway drug for the qv. So in short I did the upgrade, I adore the car, the only thing I miss is the sunroof and that can be sorted next order
I have gone from a 595c comp to a giulia veloce. I'm very very happy with it. The ti is nice but i couldn't justify they extra cost for what is basically cosmetic differences. The owners groups are also pretty active just like the abarth scene.
Finally where have you been hiding Stef ? Will make sure make notifications is turned on. I saw your X on another channel,still beautiful and red🔥. Can’t wait to see what’s your new ride😁.
I have just purchased the Giulia Nero Edizone great price looks amazing it produces 200bhp and for Uk roads it really is enough although the Veloce is very impressive.
I am not sure if they have added a complete carbon package here in the states for 2020 but i know you can have added on as accessories. Eurocompulsion here in the states have gotten 350hp out of the 2.0 with programmer and cai and exhaust. I absolutely love my Ti sport!
Great video. I don't think that the Giulia Veloce is the same kind of car as an Abarth. Different category, different size, different use. I might buy a Giulia Veloce one day, but not as an upgrade of my Abarth. It's true that the sound of the engine might be better. But overall it's probably a very pleasant sedan, with enough hp.
I like the Giulia with this specs. It looks unique same as the QV. Also the videos done by *Stef* conentrated on the Alfas are so existing. As what I read before .. Alfa gonna to upgrade this engine to produce 350 hp to fill the gap between the veloce and the QV , and still nothing happened. I hope Alfa put this engine 300+ hp in the next generation of Guilleitta QV.
Before I purchased my 2020 Giulia Ti Sport I looked into a used QV. Problem is, they were still $20-30k US more than a Ti Sport of the same year/mileage. Too much for me, plus I have a Ducati in my garage to deal with my speed lust.
you can add Race mode ( traction control off) to it by replacing the dna switch and some recoding making it an ever better package and closer to the QV experience
I'd love to see a reaction to a tuned one - these very eagerly make around 400hp with a few modifications. I think that makes this a very serious contender to the Q4 and it's a bit lighter and much easier on the maintenance.
@@bsd103 I'm so jealous of the prices you guys get in the US. The cheapest used Veloce Ti in the UK right now is £31,995. Thats about $42,000. My standard Veloce without any options was £20k used.
That's precisely the car I was looking to lease 2 years ago, but with all the options I wanted, it was way too expensive. If you can live with the basic spec of the Veloce then I think it's a pretty good deal. I am not sure of Alfa's choice of not making it 4wd like it is in the rest of Europe. It would have been a nice car to tune and be able to use all its power.
Great content Stef, thanks for posting. We're looking at having to stay home here in the states for awhile. So your videos are a huge help! Looking my back I should've kept my Guilia Ti Q4 AWD. Exactly right, the lack of a nicer exhaust note was my biggest problem with it. But it was fast enough. The Quad is great but the model I had the rear seats wouldn't go down I guess they've added that now. AWD on the Quad would've been perfect. Now looking at an 2019 AWD Maserati Ghibli SQ4, not sure yet though. Also the big issue is depreciation on these cars, so if you buy new plan to keep it or buy second-hand.😲
Sorry for appearing thick but which Abarth is he referring to? Surely not the matchbox sized Cinquecento, or could it be the MX5 in an ugly frock 124? Neither of which compare in any way to a 4 door, rear wheel drive saloon.
Hey Stef , i got the same car , i changed the exhaust with one from Miltek and it sounds waaaay better . I have an valved non-resonated cat-back exhaust . It‘s not too loud in normal and advanced mode , but if you go to the dynamic mode , it pops and bangs the whole time and is really loud
Black Frogs I am considering Milltek valved non resonated as well, however a little concerned that the elimination of central resonator will result in drone. Does it have any drone in any of the valve modes on/off? How quite is with valves on, can you travel long distances without being annoyed? If by any chance you have videos with it, would be great! Cheers
Felix B hey man , you can drive very quietly with your valves on in advanced mode or even normal mode . Of course if you put the paddle down it get‘s loud . But not annoying at all , it really sounds great . My brother does have a QV Giulia , and he said that mine sounds like his giulia a little bit . But i would not say it is dronning . I had an Abarth before with a straight pipe, that one was dronning :) if you close your valves , it sounds like the normal exhaust . I do have some videos , but not with the valves closed !
I think it's a big upgrade, abarth to Ti. I was looking to get in a veloce but the numbers didn't stack up, I could have had an 595 but went for a Giulietta QV instead. Love the Italian content on this channel 👌👊💙
Would of made a lot more sense if they had included the performance pack (Q2 diff + adaptive suspension) within the 6K premium. Essential items in my opinion, they are standard on the 2022 Veloce.
I desperately desire it for me ma, cuz she's gorgeous, taken loving care off me always, worth it and adores one. Sadly to say I can not afford it at this particular moment 😛✌. Great vid 👍
For this price point, they needed an 3rd engine positioned between the 2 liter turbo and the wild Quad engine. 280 HP then 505 HP. Where's the 350 HP choice? Then I'd say it's worth the money.
It's not really going to cost you £55k for a Veloce TI surely? The list price on my Misano Veloce 2 years ago was £40k but I actually bought it for £31.5k. I then added carbon-effect spoiler, mirrors and grill for around £200. So virtually a new TI for under £32k.
Don’t skimp on carbon? I feel the complete opposite. Carbon is so pointless on a car like this, especially interior carbon. I wouldn’t bother unless I had an unlimited amount of money, and let’s face it nobody with an unlimited amount of money would buy one of these because they’d just have the QV instead. And I think it sounds quite good 🤷♂️
Are those TI seats as comfortable as the leather ones in other trims? To my taste the leather ones (with tiny holes) are perfect in all regards but TI has seats which look different.
Uh the Abarth is not even on the same lvl lol. As far as same ZF gearbox, eh a slightly underbuilt version of the one in the QV, as its only rated about 380+ torque the one in the QV is rated over 510 ft lbs.
There is. Remap plus exhaust filter and race mode addition. Oh and gear box remap too. All done by celtic tuning for less than a grand and trust me you have a car that will make you smile all day long
So I should buy a luxury sedan and then turn it into a Honda Civic like the 16 year olds?! 👍 This is a car that’s supposed to exude class and status while providing a sporty feel. Don’t turn this car into a fast n furious prop.
I have just traded in my Giulietta QV for a Giulia veloce, at first I missed the exhaust note the Giulietta QV made, then you look at the difference in the cars, the Giulia is alot more refined, it's not in your face loud, I find it a lovely place to be then you put your foot down and then you get a huge smile, it's a cracking car, I love mine, and god its quick.
The Giulietta was still pretty fast, is the veloce noticeable faster.?? Thanks
This car..... is my flippin dream car. Can't get any better.... Nice video man!
My dad used to have a Giulia Veloce (profile picture). Really a great car I can only imagine how a Quadrifoglio would have been!
What car did he sell it for?
Real world MPG is 29 in mine - done 10k miles in it. Fantastic car, have the same Milano blu 😎
Since this is the car I personally own, I love this car. Its a supreme sport sedan. I have mine equipped with all the carbon fiber pieces as well. Great video Stef!
@Rabbi Shekelberg Well, out here in the wild West, a saloon is a bar for drinking whiskey! lol
A stock Ti here in the States will do 60 in 5.1 sec. My Q4 with a $300 piggyback runs 4.4 to 60 with no fuss, which is damn close to QV real world numbers. The QV has the sound and fear factor, but is leagues more expensive to buy and run. Used Tis offering reliable Ferrari engineering for less than 30 grand are an unbeatable enthusiast bargain.
You are correct. For some reason the 2019 models can get to 60 in 4.7 sec. The published time of 5.1 is conservative. It depends on the tires they come with. The stickier tires launch the car a bit faster. These are great cars.
Imagine with a stage 1 and a full exhaust system
Have a Ti sport as well, what brand did you use?
Dude that's a really fast 4 popper. And 40mpg's?! Thats nOt right is it? Possibly?
@@alexivan8615 The JB4 decreased my fuel economy a fair bit to 32mpg on the highway and 21 around town, though I drive it like I stole it.
Celtic tuning remap plus exhaust filter upgrade and race mode added and you're up to 350 bhp and low 4's 0 to 60. Map off the limiter and you're up to very very fast top speed too.
I have a 2017 base Giulia, which has the 280 bhp motor in the US. I love it. I tried an aftermarket exhaust but I did not like the tone. Bottom line, it costs a hell of a lot more to get the Quadrafoglio and the 4 cylinder is quick enough for me, old fart that I am.
Zero reliability.
What are you basing that on? Do you own one? Have you owned one? What do you drive that’s so reliable?
What Us mpg are you getting ???
@@davidn5334 25 in the city, 30 to 35 on the highway if I drive legally
@@dhmallet 😂😂😂 awesome Don
I’ve got a Veloce in misano and yellow callipers and it turns heads all day long . I’m sticking a Remus exhaust on mine
That will sound great with a Remus
Stef ABtv with a rear box delete it sure will wake the neighbours 😁👌
280 is more than enough on UK roads and hopefully will keep you licence too. The look is amazing, something the Germans will be jealous of. It’s not all about outright speed, handling means a lot more, it’s probably why the Golf Gti is still popular too.
Very nice review, Stef!! In regards with the Giulia Veloce, it's an amazing car. Bought it couple of months ago, couldn't be happier, an absolute dream to drive. Yes, it desperately need an exhaust, but that is part of the charm of later upgrade projects.
Also, very much appreciate that you have taken the time to reply to my email from some time ago, when asking about Giulia's steering feel. Thanks again, mate ;)
Personally, I like the sound. It's not obtrusive, so it wouldn't get old.
Is this a muted sound? Still sounds amazing!
I think it is the non-opf veloce. Stef ABtv, Correct me if I am wrong
Great video Stefano. Great car, for me anything Alfa is brilliant, I just love them.
Precisely the decision I'll need to make in two years, Stef, so great video to get me thinking. Thanks, as always...
Greetings from the snow belt, Nebraska, USA. AWD is worth much more than excessive horsepower at the many critical times when I have to get to work. The Giulia Q4 has served me perfectly for 3 years now.
The Veloce is a sensible man's QV, running cost is sensible considering that the speed limit is 20 to 70 mph in the UK and if you reside in London then you will never use the QV up to its potentials stuck in traffic. 280 bhp is more than enough power for the average driver plus the prospect of tuning it and resonate deletes can transform the Veloce. I tried to trick my wife into getting it as our second car two years ago with no joy. Thanks Stef for bring it back to my consciousness.
Love my Veloce -great video.
In the USA this is the Ti Sport model. My 2018 has all the same options except the carbon package (I did add the CF rear spoiler though). Mine is the 4 wheel Drive version. Have 17,000 trouble-free miles on it and loving it!
Great video Stef and stay safe from the Plague!
Hi Martyn, good to see you here. We sure do love our Giulia's! We had to turn back in our 2017 lease (2 yr) but we leased another 2019 Giulia. This one has the nero edition pack and I installed all the carbon fiber pieces, it looks great in red! Take care
For a family car it has a very nice sound.
Only Alfa can do this. Italian family want this!!! 🤣🤣🤣 here we have a dynamic family
best sedan on the market, no competition, a car with a soul
Nice video! I own a Ti Sport and to tell you the truth I love the sound of it. It has a sporty sound and not to loud. This is just my opinion though. Thanks for the video.
Hi mate it’s Gary from south beach recycling on insta. So I got a veloce after my abarth comp. I’ve got used to the sound after a few months. It’s so much more comfortable as well. Sometimes it doesn’t feel as fast on the motorway it’s just more capable, but where I live in the country on the twistys, it’s phenomenal. I recommend it. I wish I could have had both but this is a fantastic car, and a gateway drug for the qv. So in short I did the upgrade, I adore the car, the only thing I miss is the sunroof and that can be sorted next order
AHM do a traction control delete plus remap and springs!
I have gone from a 595c comp to a giulia veloce. I'm very very happy with it. The ti is nice but i couldn't justify they extra cost for what is basically cosmetic differences. The owners groups are also pretty active just like the abarth scene.
What U.s. mpg are you getting ?
@@davidn5334 I averaged 32 UK mpg in my giulia. 40 in the 595c. I don't know the conversion factor to us mpg
You can turn off stability control. All you need is qv mode selector, muletiecuscan and adapter for obd2. There are videos on TH-cam how to do this.
Finally where have you been hiding Stef ? Will make sure make notifications is turned on. I saw your X on another channel,still beautiful and red🔥. Can’t wait to see what’s your new ride😁.
I have just purchased the Giulia Nero Edizone great price looks amazing it produces 200bhp and for Uk roads it really is enough although the Veloce is very impressive.
Sounds great, I would buy one
❤Alfa Romeo👍 Blu Misano😍 fantastic colour ❤👍
I am not sure if they have added a complete carbon package here in the states for 2020 but i know you can have added on as accessories. Eurocompulsion here in the states have gotten 350hp out of the 2.0 with programmer and cai and exhaust. I absolutely love my Ti sport!
It sounds very nice!
Road from Beaconsfield to Maidenhead, good for a motorbike cruise :)
That's a lovely looking car, and I'm sure I wouldn't be disappointed if I could only afford that and not a QF 👍
I bought one for my wife. She would hate a loud sound. However she likes the red leather interior.
Great video.
I don't think that the Giulia Veloce is the same kind of car as an Abarth. Different category, different size, different use. I might buy a Giulia Veloce one day, but not as an upgrade of my Abarth.
It's true that the sound of the engine might be better. But overall it's probably a very pleasant sedan, with enough hp.
I like the Giulia with this specs. It looks unique same as the QV. Also the videos done by *Stef* conentrated on the Alfas are so existing.
As what I read before .. Alfa gonna to upgrade this engine to produce 350 hp to fill the gap between the veloce and the QV , and still nothing happened.
I hope Alfa put this engine 300+ hp in the next generation of Guilleitta QV.
Can you do a vid on the Giulietta. Such and underrated car in the Alfa world.
Its a Fiat Punto with a Alfa bench.
Flo A lol. No my old Mito was a fiat punto
Giulietta is the Fiat Brava underpinnings. of course I am biased but they are pretty cars
Beautiful car 😍
Before I purchased my 2020 Giulia Ti Sport I looked into a used QV. Problem is, they were still $20-30k US more than a Ti Sport of the same year/mileage. Too much for me, plus I have a Ducati in my garage to deal with my speed lust.
lol, i changed my Abarth for one of these but Q4. Superb car.
Awesome! They are good cars
you can add Race mode ( traction control off) to it by replacing the dna switch and some recoding making it an ever better package and closer to the QV experience
I'd love to see a reaction to a tuned one - these very eagerly make around 400hp with a few modifications. I think that makes this a very serious contender to the Q4 and it's a bit lighter and much easier on the maintenance.
In terms of price, a used one of these could be found for $19k USD last year (a little over $16k GBP). That's a stellar deal.
@@bsd103 I'm so jealous of the prices you guys get in the US. The cheapest used Veloce Ti in the UK right now is £31,995. Thats about $42,000. My standard Veloce without any options was £20k used.
That's precisely the car I was looking to lease 2 years ago, but with all the options I wanted, it was way too expensive. If you can live with the basic spec of the Veloce then I think it's a pretty good deal. I am not sure of Alfa's choice of not making it 4wd like it is in the rest of Europe. It would have been a nice car to tune and be able to use all its power.
Great content Stef, thanks for posting. We're looking at having to stay home here in the states for awhile. So your videos are a huge help! Looking my back I should've kept my Guilia Ti Q4 AWD. Exactly right, the lack of a nicer exhaust note was my biggest problem with it. But it was fast enough. The Quad is great but the model I had the rear seats wouldn't go down I guess they've added that now. AWD on the Quad would've been perfect. Now looking at an 2019 AWD Maserati Ghibli SQ4, not sure yet though.
Also the big issue is depreciation on these cars, so if you buy new plan to keep it or buy second-hand.😲
Sorry for appearing thick but which Abarth is he referring to? Surely not the matchbox sized Cinquecento, or could it be the MX5 in an ugly frock 124? Neither of which compare in any way to a 4 door, rear wheel drive saloon.
Great video Stef,nice car,but I would stick to an abarth 595👌😀
Hey Stef , i got the same car , i changed the exhaust with one from Miltek and it sounds waaaay better . I have an valved non-resonated cat-back exhaust . It‘s not too loud in normal and advanced mode , but if you go to the dynamic mode , it pops and bangs the whole time and is really loud
Black Frogs I am considering Milltek valved non resonated as well, however a little concerned that the elimination of central resonator will result in drone.
Does it have any drone in any of the valve modes on/off?
How quite is with valves on, can you travel long distances without being annoyed?
If by any chance you have videos with it, would be great! Cheers
Felix B hey man , you can drive very quietly with your valves on in advanced mode or even normal mode . Of course if you put the paddle down it get‘s loud . But not annoying at all , it really sounds great . My brother does have a QV Giulia , and he said that mine sounds like his giulia a little bit . But i would not say it is dronning . I had an Abarth before with a straight pipe, that one was dronning :) if you close your valves , it sounds like the normal exhaust . I do have some videos , but not with the valves closed !
@@alfageorge6432 Thanks mate! Do you have the video's posted somewhere? Would really like to hear them :). Cheers
Felix B just add me on facebook ? I will do some better video’s the next days because they are not good enough to put on youtube 😅 Grüneisen Anthony
I think it's a big upgrade, abarth to Ti. I was looking to get in a veloce but the numbers didn't stack up, I could have had an 595 but went for a Giulietta QV instead.
Love the Italian content on this channel 👌👊💙
Would of made a lot more sense if they had included the performance pack (Q2 diff + adaptive suspension) within the 6K premium. Essential items in my opinion, they are standard on the 2022 Veloce.
I desperately desire it for me ma, cuz she's gorgeous, taken loving care off me always, worth it and adores one. Sadly to say I can not afford it at this particular moment 😛✌. Great vid 👍
When I have the money it's a Quadrifoglio. It's a no brainer. If I can't I "settle" for the Ti.
But with the SPORT package.
Giulia the best!!
Beautyfull car!!!!
For this price point, they needed an 3rd engine positioned between the 2 liter turbo and the wild Quad engine. 280 HP then 505 HP. Where's the 350 HP choice? Then I'd say it's worth the money.
I went from several modern Alfas to my Comp. I didn’t see it as a downgrade at all. Just no need for a big car anymore.
Doesn't sound that muted, you're in a big saloon car so what do you expect?
Can the traction controll "issue" be fixed with removing ABS fuses?
It's not really going to cost you £55k for a Veloce TI surely? The list price on my Misano Veloce 2 years ago was £40k but I actually bought it for £31.5k. I then added carbon-effect spoiler, mirrors and grill for around £200. So virtually a new TI for under £32k.
42 mpg?? I struggle to get 30 out of mine.
42mpg imperial not US gallons
Their "gallon" is smaller that ours
Don’t skimp on carbon? I feel the complete opposite. Carbon is so pointless on a car like this, especially interior carbon. I wouldn’t bother unless I had an unlimited amount of money, and let’s face it nobody with an unlimited amount of money would buy one of these because they’d just have the QV instead. And I think it sounds quite good 🤷♂️
I love these things so much only reason I didnt get it is the no traction control shut off:(.... so i bought a 124 abarth and love it lol
Mark Catenacci Celtic tuning can retro fit Race mode to a Veloce now which turns off TC
Are those TI seats as comfortable as the leather ones in other trims? To my taste the leather ones (with tiny holes) are perfect in all regards but TI has seats which look different.
I think it sounds great. Just think the sound isolation is bigger for better comfort I guess
If I could get it in a manual ... and map it to circa 300-320hp.. that’s already a Veloce status...
I guess yes but i enjoyed the video
Hi Stef, nice video. I was wondering how I can contact you to discuss something? I couldn't see a way to reach you on youtube or Instagram.
Could be a shady deal.
pecato alfa only make 1 v6 model any more. with the old busso they had the 2l v6 turbo, the 2.5 v6, the 3 l v6 and
in the end 3.2 v6.
Uh the Abarth is not even on the same lvl lol. As far as same ZF gearbox, eh a slightly underbuilt version of the one in the QV, as its only rated about 380+ torque the one in the QV is rated over 510 ft lbs.
Veloce is all the car you need. In 21st Century UK, the QF is redundant..
OMG dude !!
You was driving on the wrong side of the road!!
5.7？ i thought its 4.9
Yes it is.. that's it
Si Giulia è la migliore!!!
Giulia the best!!!!
It depends on the target market. I don't care about the sound.
Too bad there's not a "middle child" version of the Giulia, with a single turbo V6, and priced between the Veloce and QV.
There is. Remap plus exhaust filter and race mode addition. Oh and gear box remap too. All done by celtic tuning for less than a grand and trust me you have a car that will make you smile all day long
Have you lost weight stef? Take it as a compliment lol
No TCS OFF, defeats the whole purpose of bying a sporty RWD car. No thx till they fix it.
you can pull out the fuse for the esp by yourself.
So I should buy a luxury sedan and then turn it into a Honda Civic like the 16 year olds?! 👍 This is a car that’s supposed to exude class and status while providing a sporty feel. Don’t turn this car into a fast n furious prop.
Finally, if you want it to sound like a Ferrari.....then buy a fckin Ferrari
NO NO NO