Why are you *still* talking about Lenire even though it's been officially confirmed to be a "Habituation Device", ergo it does *NOT* decrease tinnitus objectively?
@@pipebomber04 "Lenire works to counter the maladaptive neuroplasticity and negative reactions associated with tinnitus. It does this by retraining the brain to reduce its attention and sensitivity to the tinnitus sound that was previously active in the brain." - direct quote from the device description file.
Sound therapy is good for distraction sometimes but little else at least for me. Hearing aids help, but the Susan Shore device or some other treatment that actually changes brain response for production of "ghost sounds" and thus tinnitus perception is what I am waiting for.
Of course Lenire will say everyone is a candidate, they just want to sell you this expensive device, I’ve read it made their tinnitus worse.😢 I want to see an actual ENT Dr who also has tinnitus and tell us himself what helps him, that would be awesome.
@@BlingyBea unlike Lenire, the Michigan device is actually supported by real data and evidence and is currently in the process of FDA approval. From my research I would say this is the most promising upcoming tinnitus treatment and I am very hopeful for its release. Do not lose hope.
@@JoeThompson12345 thank you, I did read her Q&A and I’m very hopeful. I did see from her comments that you will only be able to get in from an audiologist, I’d prefer for her team and hope they have one I can trust and not someone just trying to sell them. I’ll go to Michigan to see them if they have a referral there. I’m hopeful.
Sound therapy only helps mask the sounds coming from your head at night. I have been sleeping with bass noise/brown noise every night for a year. Nothing really changed. What really makes difference is your diet
This is the case for you specifically, but for many others like myself, diet doesn't matter in the slightest and it comes down to distracting the brain away from the noise of our tinnitus
Diet only affects a small amount of tinnitus sufferers….for most if has no effect. It’s unfortunate people ignore the data and believe their experience is indicative of everyone. It is simply not so.
I have been discussing the Lenire with my audiologist and although I am slightly outside of the optimal range, I may be a candidate. The only problem at the moment is cost and so far insurance companies don't seem to be covering the costs of it. I called my insurance and they could not or would not tell me if it would be covered without a diagnosis code. When I contacted my Dr about that she said that she is not surprised and that she has heard the same story from several patients. I have tried the sound therapy that comes with my HA, but that has done next to nothing in about 15 months. The videos on YT or audio files with binaural sounds, pink noise, running water, cicadas, crickets, whatever only mask the perception of the sound while I am listening to them. The other problem with some of those is that sometimes they are as annoying for extended periods as the tinnitus itself.
No! It’s a 5 grand risk. Most people don’t find it very helpful….even treble health who offers its service say less than half who use the device find any real help. Why spend 5k on something that statistically bats less than even?
@@DrCliffAuD I know the tests didn't factor in the placebo effect. Only the tinnitus functional index was used instead of a more objective method (like minimal masking level). And I know its now rebranded as a "habituation device" in order to avoid legal trouble due to its ineffectiveness.
@@DrCliffAuDtreble health has even made publicly clear who do offer the device that less than half find any real help from it. That is not anecdotal from a few users….but a very telling admission. For 5 grand you have perhaps a 50 percent chance of success is not justified. Not hating on a device…just the facts. By the way calling a one point or two point upswing on the THI score a success (as they did) is very misleading.
Why are you *still* talking about Lenire even though it's been officially confirmed to be a "Habituation Device", ergo it does *NOT* decrease tinnitus objectively?
How was it officialy confirmed as habituation device?
@@pipebomber04 "Lenire works to counter the maladaptive neuroplasticity and negative reactions associated with tinnitus. It does this by retraining the brain to reduce its attention and sensitivity to the tinnitus sound that was previously active in the brain." - direct quote from the device description file.
Sound therapy is good for distraction sometimes but little else at least for me. Hearing aids help, but the Susan Shore device or some other treatment that actually changes brain response for production of "ghost sounds" and thus tinnitus perception is what I am waiting for.
Of course Lenire will say everyone is a candidate, they just want to sell you this expensive device, I’ve read it made their tinnitus worse.😢 I want to see an actual ENT Dr who also has tinnitus and tell us himself what helps him, that would be awesome.
Ah yes the best way to learn is from experience especially if the person treating you has it
Dr Susan Shore Michigan Device
@@JoeThompson12345 thank you, I just read up on her, hopefully it gets approved. Sounds interesting since she does have a very mild case of tinnitus.
@@BlingyBea unlike Lenire, the Michigan device is actually supported by real data and evidence and is currently in the process of FDA approval. From my research I would say this is the most promising upcoming tinnitus treatment and I am very hopeful for its release. Do not lose hope.
@@JoeThompson12345 thank you, I did read her Q&A and I’m very hopeful. I did see from her comments that you will only be able to get in from an audiologist, I’d prefer for her team and hope they have one I can trust and not someone just trying to sell them. I’ll go to Michigan to see them if they have a referral there. I’m hopeful.
Nothing works
Not true, I have been able to reduce my tinnitus.
@@markmark35how, please
@@markmark35 yours isn't as severe then.
@@rowandoggo as if you would know? Stop being a hater and try it!!!
Right now nothing you can buy can work.
Sound therapy only helps mask the sounds coming from your head at night. I have been sleeping with bass noise/brown noise every night for a year. Nothing really changed. What really makes difference is your diet
Eh so I've heard
Changing my diet didn't work, that is bunk IMO. The brain is the issue, that has to be fixed to stop overcompensating.
This is the case for you specifically, but for many others like myself, diet doesn't matter in the slightest and it comes down to distracting the brain away from the noise of our tinnitus
Diet only affects a small amount of tinnitus sufferers….for most if has no effect. It’s unfortunate people ignore the data and believe their experience is indicative of everyone. It is simply not so.
Thank you for this great video very helpful.🐎😜🛸😁🤸♀️😃🤭😇🧐👍
To bad Lenire is so expensive.
To bad it doesn't work
I have been discussing the Lenire with my audiologist and although I am slightly outside of the optimal range, I may be a candidate. The only problem at the moment is cost and so far insurance companies don't seem to be covering the costs of it. I called my insurance and they could not or would not tell me if it would be covered without a diagnosis code. When I contacted my Dr about that she said that she is not surprised and that she has heard the same story from several patients.
I have tried the sound therapy that comes with my HA, but that has done next to nothing in about 15 months. The videos on YT or audio files with binaural sounds, pink noise, running water, cicadas, crickets, whatever only mask the perception of the sound while I am listening to them. The other problem with some of those is that sometimes they are as annoying for extended periods as the tinnitus itself.
Save your money it doesn't work and may even make you worse. Wait for the shore device
Strange how there is no way to stop tinnitus. 🤕
Could this work for hyperacusis?
It makes the sound less overwhelming for me, and sometimes thats all you need
I literally get that from calm music though
Seems like an advertisement for a $5,000 device. Is there a money back guarantee?
No! It’s a 5 grand risk. Most people don’t find it very helpful….even treble health who offers its service say less than half who use the device find any real help. Why spend 5k on something that statistically bats less than even?
😢😢😢
Tinnitus is not the problem, hyperacusis IS.
Stop endorseing lenire its a scam and both you and they know it.
Have you actually seen the data or just made up your mind on a few anecdotal reports on forums?
@@DrCliffAuD I know the tests didn't factor in the placebo effect. Only the tinnitus functional index was used instead of a more objective method (like minimal masking level). And I know its now rebranded as a "habituation device" in order to avoid legal trouble due to its ineffectiveness.
@@DrCliffAuDtreble health has even made publicly clear who do offer the device that less than half find any real help from it. That is not anecdotal from a few users….but a very telling admission. For 5 grand you have perhaps a 50 percent chance of success is not justified. Not hating on a device…just the facts. By the way calling a one point or two point upswing on the THI score a success (as they did) is very misleading.
NO🖕