Building Your Wilds of Eldraine Collection: Tips, Events and Packs | MTG Arena Economy Guide

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  • @michaelgriffith7033
    @michaelgriffith7033 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know if it's the "new set crush" feeling I typically get, but I LOVE this set!
    I was (and still am) in love with the LotR set and Brother's War, enjoy the ONE set, and was okay with MoM.
    But WoE feels very fun! I am seeing many interesting cards and combos in games.
    I haven't yet added new cards to decks, but am spotting some potential additions.
    Great video, GSD, as always.

  • @filippoboccaletti9727
    @filippoboccaletti9727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are veeeeeeery well done, helped me loads when i started on arena and they still do, keep up the great work, you deserve way more subs

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, will do! Subs are coming in pretty fast at the moment, so that's very appreciated :)

  • @classicalteacher
    @classicalteacher ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really appreciate your content.

  • @torvaldrunarson4219
    @torvaldrunarson4219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again man for all of the advices

  • @blossom357
    @blossom357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you explain why I should refrain from opening packs until after drafting? I'm toying with the idea of making a new account for more wildcards now that I have a better idea of what kind of deck I want to play and if leaving them unopened for some amount of time is optimal for some reason, I'll have to hold back the urge. Would this apply to the promo codes, as well?

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason why it's generally better to delay opening packs for as long as possible is because rares in packs are duplicate protected, whereas individual card rewards and drafted cards are not protected.
      This means if you pick a copy of a rare that you already own 4x of in a draft, you'll get 20 gems instead of the card, because you can't have more than 4 copies.
      If you open a pack that contains a copy of a rare that you already own 4x of, it will instantly and automatically swap out for a different rare that you don't already own 4 copies of.
      If you open lots of packs first, you're more likely to get a few gems here and there, which are below the value of individual rares. If you open packs later when your collection is more complete, you're more likely to fill out your collection with rares that you don't already own.

    • @blossom357
      @blossom357 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice, thank you. While this is still valuable info, ultimately I think I'll stick with my first account because I need only 8 uncommons for your version of Rakdos Rats. I can look into rares like Karumonix and Lord Skitter, Sewer King later. This deck seems so fun. @@gameschooldadMTG

  • @snackplaylove
    @snackplaylove ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haven’t seen any good info on those ‘blue’ quests that appeared this set. Might be worth a video.
    (Also - because draft also uses a hidden matchmaker like ranked it gets harder the more you play - even in Bronze. For small amounts of drafts it’s not noticeable though)
    Expect the Story Decks that are on the WOTC main page will be great for MWM

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks like the 'Play 3 Quick Draft games' quest is part of the New Player Experience that's just been added, so I think it's just a one-off. There's not much else I can think to say on that, but I'll probably make a post about it to see what other people think.
      I haven't had a good look at the Story Decks on the website yet, but they might be pretty good. I'm sure there are other decent budget decks that could be made to at least get a couple of wins in the event. I'll work on that... :)

  • @Arkavien
    @Arkavien ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Concerning not having enough cards for the Midweek Magic WOE event. This might add some value to Jump In? Basically for 5k-10k gold you'll have 10ish WOE rares and some cards with synergies. Since the cards rewarded are, mostly, predictable; maybe there's a deck or two that can be put together that can scrape out a few wins? That'd likely be prime newbie friendly content. Maybe they'd make fun decks to complete quests with in Play modes while waiting to draft? Jump In's main detriment is the lack of a golden pack after spending 10K gold, as well as the lack of any potential rewards from drafts. But then it can target WOE cards and doesn't require a winrate, while offering a chance to practice and play with WOE mechanics with a somewhat equal playing field before risking resources on quick drafts.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      There are some good things to be said about Jump In, but it's not for everyone. Being able to get a bunch of cards that synergise well is a great help towards building a new budget deck and not having to open any packs or use any wildcards to try it out. Especially if you pick the same Jump In pack more than once and have multiple copies of the cards. The rares in those packs are also often pretty viable in constructed.

  • @ZEhamster
    @ZEhamster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait for the MS video. It looks like there are a lot of changes and its value is even greater now.
    Also, there are new free rewards (lvl.3, 7, 9, etc.) added, aren't they?

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those green extras are apparently linked to the Renewal Egg, so they're just extras for this set.

    • @ZEhamster
      @ZEhamster ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gameschooldadMTG oh, a little sad :(

  • @DX100HHH
    @DX100HHH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would you take late in draft? A card you have 4of already or a card you havent maxed yet?

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably one I haven't maxed yet, but it depends on what it is.

  • @Duckycide
    @Duckycide ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey thanks for the content, just recently got into MTG for the first time through MTG Arena and your videos have helped me a lot.

  • @Urdimbre18
    @Urdimbre18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about jump in events? How often give you cards of the new set? And the new rewards for draft are only a one time price o will they reapear every week/month/new set? Thanks!!!

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I should have mentioned Jump In events at least briefly in this video, but I didn't think about that because I've got another video coming out on that format shortly. The short answer is: I would only recommend to do Jump-In events if you've done them a lot in the past and have already picked lots of older Standard packs (if your focus is to specifically build your Eldraine collection). If you want to build a wider Standard-legal collection (if you're very new to Arena) then they might also be good for that, but not for Eldraine specifically.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And that 1,000 gold for completing 3 Quick Draft games looks the same style as other New Player Experience rewards, and there isn't anything else that replaces it when you've done the 3 games either. So that all points to the fact that it's probably just a one-off reward to incentivise players to try out different formats.

    • @arduano7872
      @arduano7872 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't play any Jump In! events since Streets of New Capenna in 2022 (I have been out of the game for a year, restarted a couple of weeks ago). I tried Jump In! yesterday, just after the Wilds of Eldraine release, and had 1 WOE-package in my first choice (Bittersweet) and another in my second choice (Faeries), the rest of the packages was from older sets (LTR, DMU, BRO, ONE). Don't know if you're guaranteed 1 package of WOE if you didn't chose it earlier or I just got lucky. Will keep playing with my Bittersweet-Faeries deck until quick drafts come along (have to save gold for those quick drafts). 😛

  • @katalik5536
    @katalik5536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, thanks for the explanations, as always.
    I don't like drafting because that's very stressful for me. Moreover it's always at this moment you will lose connexion (it happened to me yesterday and I could not choose my cards after the first booster... Still managed to get 4 wins, thanks to the tough cookie. Very powerful card !)
    I prefer to play non ranked game after getting platinum rank and just do my daily quests/wins. 1 hour a day is enough to do so.
    I get most of the cards like that and it's ok for me.

    • @nathanparker3776
      @nathanparker3776 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So you just buy packs at that point? I’m fairly new and have never drafted before so i’m not sure what else to do since there doesn’t seem to be a jumpstart

    • @katalik5536
      @katalik5536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, welcome ! I think you can follow the advices of Game School Dad. He wrapped up everything well in this video. (and the other ones on this subject)
      About me, I did not buy packs yet with the gold I saved for now (I was not interested to play Lotr so I did not buy anything)
      I still have one draft token to use (and the new one I will get with the mastery pass)
      After that, I will just make my daily wins and daily quests each day (1 hour per day as I said).
      And buy few packs with my gold (1 or 2) as a reward until I run out of gold.
      It's not very optimal, but I think fun is an important part of the game, I enjoy to do things like that now.

  • @arduano7872
    @arduano7872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My plan for building a WOE-collection:
    1. Playing the Jump In! event to get the 10 new WOE-packages and getting my 4 daily/15 weekly wins the easy way
    2. From September 15th on doing 5-10 quick drafts for set sollection + getting enough gems to buy the Mastery Pass
    3. Hopefully I have enough gems now to buy the Mastery Pass
    4. After rank reset on October 1st using my draft tokens from the Mastery Pass and the store with discount to do 1-3 Premier drafts to get gems back for next set’s Mastery Pass.
    5. Excess gold can now be used to buy packs
    6. Opening packs
    I have a question though: Are the Mythic card rewards from the Mastery Pass duplicate protected?

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mythic ICRs should work the same way as normal. If you get one that you haven't got 4x yet, you get the card. If you have already got 4x of the card, you'll get 40 gems instead.

    • @arduano7872
      @arduano7872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gameschooldadMTG Thanks for the clarification! So, it does really matter to wait for those rewards before opening the packs as the rare/mythics in the packs are duplicate protected.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arduano7872 Yes, but I don't worry about it too much. I'll open some packs before completing the mastery pass and risk losing some value, but I won't craft 4 of certain cards unless I really want to use it immediately.

    • @xblowsmokex
      @xblowsmokex ปีที่แล้ว

      Jump in is brutal right now, played for an hour last night and lost every game. Seems people held onto to their LOTR jump in packs and are steamrolling WOE packs

    • @arduano7872
      @arduano7872 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xblowsmokex I have quite the opposite actually, a winrate of 8-3 at the moment with the Bittersweet/Faeries packages.

  • @lukeshaw4070
    @lukeshaw4070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve also notice that the longer the set has been out the more chance you have of the rare’s being past to you in premier drafts, I’m assuming it’s because people have built their collection up and are just focusing on building a better draft deck rather than rare grabbing. Has anyone else noticed this too?

    • @LastEsper
      @LastEsper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can prove this statistically via 17lands. Rares like MOM's Invasion of Theros is utterly useless in draft. During the first 2 weeks, it's last seen until around pick 4. Afterwards, it's last seen around pick 5.
      I still wouldn't recommend rare drafting until after pick 6 or 7. That's my method and usually finish each draft with around 5 rares and 3.5+ average wins per draft. Don't ever rare draft pick 1-4 especially - pretend those rares are commons.
      Premier draft really, really penalizes you for averaging less than 3 wins, at which point you'll certainly be better off rare drafting in quick draft even if you get 8 rares each draft. Sorry for long rant.

  • @roy4173
    @roy4173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question (which you don't need to make a video about because I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority), but how much am I shooting myself in the foot if I forgo the mastery pass and only spend all of my currency on drafting? I really enjoy drafting and limited formats, and don't really want to save gems for the mastery pass, but I wonder if the payout is worse for limited purists like myself? 😅

    • @xblowsmokex
      @xblowsmokex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you’re only concerned about limited the main thing you’re missing is a draft token in the mastery pass. That’s assuming you don’t care about opening packs or collecting cosmetics

    • @electra_
      @electra_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Given you complete the mastery pass, you get 1200 gems, 4000 gold, and a draft pass. 4000 gold is equivalent to 600 gems at the rate at which you'd spend them on a draft (40% of one), and a draft pass is of course worth 1500 gems. In total, that's 3300 gems worth of drafting from the mastery pass - and you spent 3400 to get it. So as long as you complete the mastery pass up to the last relevant reward (level 48) you're only losing 100 gems, 1/15 of a draft, in order to get all of the bonus packs/cosmetics. If you really don't care about packs, wildcards from packs, comsetics, or rewards to any degree and *only* play limited, then you are throwing away 100 gems. But if you care even a little bit about that stuff, the amount you get is certainly worth the 100 gems.
      If you didn't think you'd complete much of the mastery pass or don't want to wait until you hit level 48 to spend those 3300 gems worth on drafting, that'd also be a reason to skip the pass.

  • @thatblueone8787
    @thatblueone8787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So with the release of WoE there was a ban announcement in game. If I craft these cards from wildcards now, like you said in your wildcards video, would I still get wildcards back? Because I have no idea how to find out which cards are gonna get banned before they tell us in game.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Usually they are announced before they are banned. The Historic cards that have come along with WOE were pre-banned, so there's no way to get a wildcard refunded for crafting those ones.

    • @thatblueone8787
      @thatblueone8787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gameschooldadMTG
      I see, thank you for the reply.
      And also for your videos. They've helped me quite a bit. I've started around a month ago and feel like I've been doing quite well thanks to you.

  • @torvaldrunarson4219
    @torvaldrunarson4219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering, because I've read it somewhere but I'd love someone to confirm : Do events like draft, constructed etc, pair you with people that have the same amount of wins ?

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They is definitely an element of skill-matching in the Draft games, but I don't think it's confirmed anywhere if it's based solely on number of wins in that specific event, or on your general win rate for the event type.
      In Constructed there's also some leaning towards being matched up against players with a similar win rate, which keeps the games more balanced and fair.
      I'll have a video on the matchmaker and all that coming out in the near future, but there's a lot to be said about Eldraine at the moment :)

    • @torvaldrunarson4219
      @torvaldrunarson4219 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot@@gameschooldadMTG

  • @SlapshockPlays
    @SlapshockPlays ปีที่แล้ว

    did they offer like a bundle pack for WOE? I bought one for ONE, MOM but seemed to overlook.this set cause I did not buy the LOTR.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they have had the Pack bundle, Play bundle and Pass bundle available up until the launch day, like they've done before.

  • @Ensteir325
    @Ensteir325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9-10 daily wins at some point u dont get battle xp, but can get miniscule gold and cards at max 15 wins

  • @Undesired_Hero
    @Undesired_Hero ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you notice they nerfed the way you get golden packs now? For me who doesn't have any of the legal sets it's horrible that I only can get golden packs from woe packs...

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wouldn't necessarily call that a nerf. The bonus was always given for buying the most recent packs. They included MOM and Aftermath together because they're kind of the same set, and when LTR came out, they kept them in for non-Alchemy players to still get golden packs. That just made an exceptional situation where technically 3 sets could all contribute to golden packs.

    • @AdamGoldbergOmaha
      @AdamGoldbergOmaha ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@gameschooldadMTG
      It was the same with phyrexia, its alchemy, and shadows over innistrad. All 3 would contribute to golden pack progress.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdamGoldbergOmaha yes, that's true, but I guess the intention is still to be the most recent Standard set, or Alchemy if that's more recent, without punishing non-Alchemy players.

    • @iP3RFEKTIONoO
      @iP3RFEKTIONoO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s always been that way, the most recent set(s) (includes alchemy sometimes) produce gold packs happened with ONE and MoM

    • @DaveMartinCanuck
      @DaveMartinCanuck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I Often wait 2 to 4 weeks into the most recent season to see if a discount on the latest Alchemy set materialises. E.g 15 Alchemy for 10k gold.
      I'm not one to drop $50 to US$100 to fund my pack habit.
      I prefer standard cause I'm trash at choosing draft so not fun to grind out sets for myself.
      I spend around 50k to 100k gold on packs 3 to 5 times a year.
      Keeps me sated

  • @CristianKrause1
    @CristianKrause1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of my accounts did not receive draft tokens

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      The draft tokens I've got are from the previous Mastery pass and the special daily deals. Where were you expecting to receive draft tokens from?

  • @reidyo5404
    @reidyo5404 ปีที่แล้ว

    After drafting, standard events are the best way to build your collection. Especially if you pay gems, you only need 3 wins to come out ahead of buying packs. The beginning of a set is a good time to run these too because more people experiment with janky decks.

    • @gameschooldadMTG
      @gameschooldadMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment. 3 wins in a Standard Event costs you 375 gems to get back 200 gems and 1 pack. That's actually slightly worse than just buying packs in the store.
      You'd need at least 4 wins in the event to actually profit at all, and even then it's only a tiny profit, and still net-negative in gems, which isn't ideal because it's not sustainable.
      5 wins is where it really makes a difference, and you'd need a consistent 62% win rate to be able to farm that regularly, which is pretty unrealistic over the long term.

    • @reidyo5404
      @reidyo5404 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gameschooldadMTG 62% win rate seems high but the competition is a lot lower. I think most tryhards are in competitive. I’m not the greatest player but I win enough to almost break even on gems not counting packs. Just need to find a good deck