Don’t Forget People Living in Pain: War on Opioids and Chronic Pain Patients during COVID-19
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- Governments are responding to the COVID-19 pandemic by temporarily suspending or relaxing regulations that block access to health care. State and federal officials should also suspend regulations that restrict access to opioids for as many as 50 million adults living with chronic pain.
Social‐distancing measures exist to protect health by stopping the spread of COVID-19. But shelter‐in‐place orders, lockdowns of nonessential businesses, and prohibitions on elective medical procedures can threaten the health of patients suffering from chronic illnesses, immobilizing disorders, substance use disorders, and mental health problems. The combination of preexisting regulatory barriers and social distancing is causing increased suffering, isolation, and despair among these Americans.
Chronic pain patients, those who advocate for them, and those who treat them will discuss how current opioid policy is making the public health emergency doubly dangerous.
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Pain Patients need to come together for a class action lawsuits. This is the most UNDERRATED, UNDER Reported NEWS TOPIC. ITS DEPLORABLE
Problem is none of us feel like coming together. But we’re definitely being denied our constitutional rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
There's actually been a great deal of discussion regarding this over the past 7 years among many chronic pain patients. Unfortunately, most attorneys aren't willing to even look at a case, let alone take an un-winnable case. And unfortunately, when you're fighting govt agencies, it's always considered un-winnable. It would also be incredibly expensive. Unfortunately, chronic pain patients don't have the deep pockets that anti-opioid organizations have.
I have called attorneys across the country, no one will touch this case.
@@Dobviews what is their usual response on why they won't touch the case?
@@HeyIntegrity They either claim they are not taking cases like ours, that it is against the government and they cannot win against state and federal laws and then there are the ones who just hang up mid sentence.
Personally, I think they are all of the opinion that they do not want to take on the cases because they are not guaranteed a win and because it is not politically acceptable to fight for patients to have access to pain meds. Many have bought into the idea we are all junkies looking for a fix.
If I were a "junkie" I would have sought remedy on the streets in 2016 when my meds were cut off. Personally, I am not willing to do that.
1. I would be risking everything my husband and I have, if ever caught with illegal remedies.
2. I am not willing to place myself or family in danger of having unknown substances within my home.
3. I am not willing to take something that I do not know where it came from or how strong it is, I would never place my husband in that situation.
Thank you Richard Lawhern Phd for speaking up for pain patients. It's the 1st time I've heard a doctor speak out in pain patients defense. It actually brought tears to my eyes. Pain patients are afraid to upset our pain doctors. My new pain doctor's wanting to take me off my pain medication I've taken for 20 years when I didn't do anything wrong from the pain contract. I have serious back issues with MRI's to prove my pain. I've had a pain doctor tell me that he sees in the near future that pain medications will only be prescribed if you have a terminal disease like cancer. I'd rather die from a overdose than live in unbearable pain ! Our pain doctors are killing us ! That's discrimination . The govt sets up heroin clinics and methadone clinics for drug addicts , but won't treat chronic pain patients that have legitimate diseases ! This is plain craziness!
You are seeing that medicine is no longer concerned with patients, but the almighty dollar. Medicine and drugs are multi-billion-dollar businesses. The Satler family, of Oxycodone fame took the government years to put them out of business. Follow the money as our politicians are as corrupt as they can be.
I agree with you 100%. They are abandoning legitimate sufferers of chronic pain who have been completely compliant and never abused any medications. We are left to suffer with doctors who won’t treat us. It’s criminal to make so many suffer needlessly.
Your last paragraph beginning with "The govt sets up heroin...." EXACTLY 💯💯💯💯💯%!!!
While my concoctions of daily 2x 30mg Morphine and 4 10/235 oxy haven't always reduced me to much less than a rare 3 on the pain scale for more than 10 hours total, at least I haven't been reduced to tears at the thought of going into withdrawal in order to "try" the injections first then be further scarred up to have this insane heavy round pump placed in my abdomen!!! Why in utter hell didn't/can't they have said pump in a pouch ON the waist for Christ sake?!?
@Laura-bi5dc I believe it's criminal also, and perhaps abandoned pain patients should be talking to a malpractice attorney. Since I saw how the medical system buckled to demands during covid I've lost faith in our medical system ; it's broken and it's corrupt . The govt should never be in charge of our doctors and how they treat us, because the govt is corrupt . I've gotten a lot of pain relief from going to the chiropractor, so try a chiropractor. Good luck !!
Methadone clinics have become pain management treatment for many people but you still get treated like a drug addict.
Thank you all, very much. Thank you for being my voice. Our voice.
PLEASE HELP US GET OUR LEGAL MEDS BACK AND LIVE AGAIN....I BEG OF YOU!!!!
My best friend just passed away at 54 with Small Cell Fiber Neuropathy. She was in so much pain that she just wanted to die. Well she finally did last week due to her disease. The main thing that was so sad about her condition is that she could not get adequate pain relief medication. Watching my friend suffer day in and day out due to her pain was heartbreaking. I think that we as fellow humans should keep fighting along the sides of individuals to get adequate pain management. God bless you Wendy.
Londonbridges9739-I too have SFN and I am in horrible pain. How long did she have the disease? How did she die from it?
Red Lawhern is a hero, thank you Red!
Please CATO do more to get this issue out there covid or no covid. It's a violation of one's natural right to life to be forced to live in permanent crippling pain when there options to relieve it. Entire lives crushed, ruined for nothing.
Isn't that the truth my life has been shattered
I So Much , Agree 30 years in documented pain , and every test proving it ..and now, left to lay in bed , and my daily accomplishment,is to not die .. left with no help , that I had , up till 6 months ago .. and I’m too close , to losing .. the fight , to stay alive .. when each minute , is a very long time in pain ..and unfunctionable .. live alone
I am so deeply sorry 😭😭😭 I have days that I can't get out of bed...it can be a miserable existence. Praying for a better solution. God speed! 🌻
I understand that people have died from overdoses. But it is entirely unfair to make the same rule for everyone. It makes me so angry as a fellow sufferer. There are plenty of other drugs on the market, that people have overdosed on, including antidepressants. Did we see anyone stop prescribing those? Everyone focuses on opioids. Take a look at overdoses done with non-opioid meds. Nobody banned those.
@@tammyshowers6844 “... and I’m too close , to losing .. the fight , to stay alive .. when each minute , is a very long time in pain ...”
We need more pain warriors like yourself to stay alive so that we can have been witnesses to this unconscionable atrocity. Stay involved. When in pain it is difficult to remember that we matter, in a time of extreme sociologic dysfunction. I surely know what that is like bc, I am certainly experienced.
The glory of the garden lies in more than meets the eye.
Rudyard Kipling
I'm waiting for the day that technology advances to the point that a doctor can place pads on me and on themselves and see exactly what kind of pain I'm being forced to live with. When they hit the floor and scramble to pull those pads off I'll be standing there with a big old grin on my face!
I been waiting for the same myself!
They still won't help you
@@johnmitchell8925 You're probably right :(
I would love to see that happen...not to torture anyone, but to PROVE the pain is REAL!
Most of my pain is obvious. 38 major surgeries. Bad motorcycle accident accounts for 7 (+ 10 1/2 weeks in hospital) plus most of the metal in my body. Gunshot to numerous accounts for one. The rest are linked to my birth defect (bladder extrophy).
But even my family forgets....a lot.
I have to hide the fact I'm on oxy....for 11 years now. But during that time I've not gone up in strength....and i refuse to. I'll eat a bullet before that happens.
Time will tell......
It would be nice for others to know what hell my daily (litteraly minute to minute) is.
Thank you all so much for validating us with invisible chronic pain.
Thank you all for addressing this horrible situation. I wish more people would tune in. I happened on this link by accident on another site. People in general are so very unaware of what is going on. They watch news headlines of propaganda and.....SIGH.
Dead on accurate ☝️
Thank you for understanding!
Or in my searches youtube&google has just shadowbanned all of this info??
@@inipara13 Google is controlled and now it's the biggest propaganda machine out here.
Being disabled and isolated without medication is cruel and unusual punishment. With no way to visit doctor to refill any medication has left me practically bed ridden. This is a crime. Asking the disabled to go to multiple pharmacies is impossible and a recipe for suicide.
ABSOLUTELY. Another facet of devastation but hang in there...And, drug testing keeps a LOT of people out of P.M. also.
Thank you guys for remembering chronic pain patients. I appreciate you being our advocates. It is getting increasingly difficult to fill opioid pain meds as pharmacies refuse to fill these prescriptions. I did write letters to my Senators and Representatives, and my letters fell on deaf ears. But I’m not giving up! I will continue writing letters and hope we can change the tide for patients who live in pain 24/7.
The real crime is being committed by the DEA's fear of being declared unneeded. Each time they cause another drug to be outlawed it is money in their pockets. Restricting access to pain relief is criminal and is time to end the power of non medical bureaucrats to decide what medical treatment we need.
Bless you for that. I would fight too but I have no fight left
So awesome that you wrote letters. It really makes me mad knowing the government gives out free crack pipes, yet us pain patients are treated like criminals.
@@tiffanytaylor6393 WE WILL FIGHT FOR YOU.
We all need to write letters. We also need to see who is involved with the CDC, most will be shocked.
CATO institute is so powerful...
Why is this problem of targeting the sick, pain patients and aged in mainstream reporting..??? Why is it so hard to understand that addicts have a choice to take drugs to get their highs? We have no choice to get rid of our diseases...???
@lil NYOOM except there is a fundamental difference between somone who if sober wouldn't be suffering from any pain vs people with a legitimate condition who suffer from pain and would be in even worse pain or even worse yet suicide if they were "sober". For addicts the drug causes negative life effects. For dependants the drug is liberating and allows that individual to do tasks they couldn't while in pain.
To put it simply if you put an giant supply of opiates infront of an addict, they will do it all basically as fast as they can to be as high as they can as often. While somone who is dependant and higher functioning would only take what they need to releive the pain in order to do certain tasks and will usually try to limit intake to the lowest amount they can handle before taking another dose. One is using the supply very fast without much thought but the other is trying to prolong the availability of the supply in order to do certain tasks. Like work...
Addiction is dependence despite negative life consequences. If your having positive life consequences such as being able to work when you couldn't because of pain before that would normally be considered a good thing and progress in life...
Exactly. I feel some other country set the guidelines to torcher is in pain and dry up drugs for them to put killer drugs on the streets for addicts to die on. Nobodies winning in their drug war. Addicts keep dying from fentynal and we get left suffering in excruciating pain with to small amounts to manage pain. We the people aren't benefitting from this war.
I am miserable. 54 years old in extreme chronic pain can't rest well and having a hard time getting medicine I need anywhere. Someone needs to help. They're driving people to kill their self of homelessness. It's terrible. Doctors need to be free.
Thank you. I had severe pain for 4 years with unknown cause. I didn't take pain medication the first 2 years and my life was miserable. Absolutely horrible. Then my doctor prescribed me hydrocodone and my next 2 years were nearly back to normal. It helped SO much! Tylenol and Advil didn't touch it and I was blown away at how well hydrocodone worked. I was able to get out and do stuff. I was able to work. I enjoyed my life and wasn't suicidal anymore. I then became pregnant and my pain went 100% away. That was 11 years ago. I always am afraid the pain will come back and I won't be able to get medication again. Thank you for addressing this issue. It's sad that people get addicted and overdose but it is also sad to be in severe pain every day and have no light at the end of the tunnel.
Richard Lawhern, PhD, your comments were totally right on target. I'm an old guy being treated for cancer and I have several severe orthopedic issues that have caused severe, constant pain. Add to that anxiety. Anxiety meds are being lumped right into the pain meds issue. Please keep speaking up on our behalf.
So you're not in a medicinal marijuana state I take it?
Either way, talk about a joke on the American public (having legalized it).
I, personally cannot function high any better than I can in pain. How ignorant. My city alone now has ten MM "dispensaries" more than churches on every corner. And although they cite other reasons, insurance huge increases tell me they are very aware of the untold amounts of people driving high.
@@laurakibben4147 I agree wholeheartedly. I have chronic pain and panic attacks and anxiety. Immense pain definitely puts people into a state of anxiety. Why do we have to choose 1 over the other? I’ve been on anxiety meds for 18 years and pain meds for 15 years. Nothing bad ever happened to me if you take your medication responsibly. I know it’s not right to wish bad on anybody but sometimes I feel the doctors should feel the pain we live with, maybe they would understand way more.
@@laurakibben4147also I don’t want medical marijuana because I like to have my wits about me. I don’t want to deep think either. I’ve had more injections in the past and just don’t want them anymore at all, they never helped but that’s all doctors want to do today is injections or the pain simulator. No thanks. They created opioid pain medication because it works, sadly the nature of it is withdrawals, but that is the only thing that can truly help pain.
Thank you for all your doing . I'm having major panic attacks ever since my surgeon sent me back to my pain management dr for over 10 years . A few weeks ago on day of my appointment I get a call that they can no longer see me cos of these issues. Every pain management dr I call tells me the same. I can barely get through each day with meds surgeon is giving me , and for how much longer since I haven't had any luck so far finding another pain management dr. I'm terrified at what my life would be without the help I have for now. Daily severe panic attacks , all day every day ,can't eat , depressed , pain already affects how much sleep I get & with panic on board its 10x worse so not sleeping much. I asked the last pain management drs office what are we suppose to do & she said I don't know maybe see changes in January! January!?! Maybe!?! I called my surgeons office and ask them what am I suppose to do if I can't find a pain management dr , curl up in a ball & die a slow excruciating painful death ? "Don't think like that " she said well how am I suppose to think ?? Dear God help all chronic pain patients get the care they need. There is no reason people should suffer when there is help out there. I pray my dr helps me until we find a good pain management dr and hopefully these problems are solved. Prayer going up for all 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I hope you find a doctor to help you.be blessed
I feel you,, i get nothing i am just told to take tylenol , i have rods and screws in my back no disk left in my neck 5 different drs pretty much say tough buddy suck it up , i dont even go to the dr anymore
Are you in IL? sounds like my old doc that Got outta here an went to HI!
Theres more suicides now for those of us in pain managment!
Thats what they want! Im not a junkie i love life this shit sucks! I am sick of being still in life an not growing 😒😔
Perhaps you should talk to a malpractice attorney for doctors refusing to treat you or on other grounds...
How are you now? I’m struggling too. I don’t know what to do.
Thank you all for even broaching this topic! It’s nice to hear some common sense in a time when it doesn’t seem to be so common any longer.
I’ve been dealing with chronic pain now for years & I’m currently going through the process of getting a diagnosis. My PCP & I both suspect MS because the symptoms have gotten worse over time & they’re all MS symptoms. Although I’ve had other doctors tell me that MS doesn’t cause pain. 🤷🏻♀️
Touching on what Dr. Trescot mentioned about the physical exam. One of the craziest things I’ve seen was a sign on a dental office saying “ Telehealth appointments available” 🤔
I was a general & surgical dental assistant & I’m still trying to figure out how you’d go about that!
Also now when it comes to dentistry (which can be unbelievably painful) good luck getting anything for pain! It’s not going to happen!
On a side note A story I heard second hand from a very reliable source (someone very close to the doctor) was that a relative of my state’s former governor was prescribed opiates for a legitimate medical condition & our Governor decided to contact the doctor and have their meds pulled!
Of course the doctor obliged as it came from the Governor! Talk about an abuse of power! Now that pos governor is in Washington DC!
Living with chronic pain isn’t something I’d really want to wish on anyone but there are certain people who really should be able to feel what they’re doing to people.
Taking people off their meds who have had NO issues for years is turning many into criminals because some will turn to the streets for pain relief. Our government has done more damage than Purdue Pharma could have ever dreamed of!
If it wasn’t for all of these absurd regulations I whole heartedly believe that we wouldn’t have all this Chinese fentanyl coming in & killing people!
Red Lawhern is truly a wonderful MD that really cares about chronic pain patients. I'd like to thank him publicly here! Well done Dr. Lawhern!
Thank you!
Thank you for speaking out and helping Chronic Pain Patients.
I have a pain management doctor. They refuse to give pain meds, they only offer invasive help (Injections, blocks, surgeries) so those who just don’t do needles are left having to have injections for arthritis that can actually make things worse. They don’t need to be called pain management anymore. They need to be called “get injections or surgery or deal with it “
Exactly.... And they make more money giving those shots!!!
Why don't people go orthopedic doctor they have the authority to prescribed meds.i wouldn't waste my time with pain management
Thank you for sharing this.Good to know you're not going crazy that this is happening everywhere. I have been to 3 of these pain doctors they are quacks.The last 1 said he do a pain contract for tramadol but I could not find any one to fill it as they are red flagged.😏We have gone from a place where the doctors wanted to help us, to each appointment being like a confrontation.If not for my faith and knowing that one day I Would not be in pain I could not get through the day.My saying now is "1 more day He will make a way" I am praying for you right now as well. 💞🙏
Sadly this is so true my son a 2 time cancer survivor was basically tossed into the pain management doctors trash can. One “sells” the newer surgically implanted electro stimulating devices. Cost is huge.
It's all about money. They don't make money giving patients cheap pain pills. They make alot more money with injections that speeds up bone loss and destroys cartilage and tendons and other surgeries like implanting a spinal cord stimulator..its all about money . So they lower or take patients pain meds and then theyll be desperate enough to agree to the surgical options..wtf an implanted spinal cord stimulator?! I told my doctor that I removed breast implants bc they were making me sick and they're a foreign object inside my body and my immune system didn't like it, so I'm not gonna get a spinal cord stimulator foreign object put inside my body and the doctor was speechless and refilled my pain meds , but it's a fight every time I have an appt with him. I get so much anxiety at that appt that my blood pressure goes through the roof high. Top number was 185 !! and they think I need blood pressure meds , it's not my blood pressure bc when I get home and check my blood pressure is normal. It's anxiety about my pain management Dr appt. I feel like I have PTSD from all I've been through with painful back produces and worry about my pain meds being taken away.. this medical system is broken
Thank you CATO institute. Yes, the war on opioids has finally fallen on the doorsteps of the average, law abiding, American citizen. For the millions who experience chronic pain, this war is real, life altering, and often devastating to normal life quality and function.
From the tragedies on display in this comment section, from a relatively small number of viewers of this TH-cam video, one can only imagine this sampling covering the vast population of America- the implication is millions of people suffering just like this.
Imagine prescribers who really want to help, but cower in fear before the all-powerful DEA and their counterparts at the state level.
Something desperately needs to happen an fast. I do believe in action- like vigorously writing congress people, and especially representatives at the state level. Let's know who the are. Know and support pain advocates. Support the CATO institute, too (I'm not affiliated at time of this writing). CATO is an organization that major players listen to!
I thank you ALL for addressing this horrible and traumatic issue for pain patients. To say that CPP are being traumatized daily is truly an understatement. Bless you for sharing your expertise in CP and hopefully at least making others aware of the inhumane and torturous lives that CPP are living with. As tears are running down my face, I have little hope however that things will change.
Why doesn't someone stop this horrific war on patients in horrific pain. Why can't someone stop this war on us. The people stopping us from needed medicine are the ones that need to be put in prison. It's horrific to suffer like that.
Thank you speaking up for us that live everyday with chronic pain. I have been I the place before were I was seriously thinking about putting myself out of the never ending hell that I was in.Things has got to change !!!!!!
The pendulum always swings...Don’t stop the pendulum....
@@Theta-i1n Yes, so true, we are victims of bad policy. It's time to swing BACK for some of us!
I've been left homeless from not being able to have adaquate medicine and I'm not on disability yet, and I have a hard time taking care of what I need because of severe unbearable pain.
This country I don't know what is wrong with this country.sad
@@pursedelighted9020 the MEDIA , we are all addicts , whatever they say , racist, dopehead, whatever they say, is presumed TRUE !
They know better, it’s not rocket science. It’s a matter of not caring.
In Maine. Have MS and get no help. My life is basically a living breathing torture. I know it’s awful to wish it on those responsible but I do and I hope they suffer half as much as I do and are told to take Tylenol. Covid Quarentine changed literally nothing for me.
I know what your going through. We should get a right to sue for being left so miserable. It's unethical what they've done to people in pain.
I say horrible things on fb because I suffer excruciating pain everyday. Noone could stand this.
@@dorisreynolds8904 absolutely get it. And we should be able to sue. Patients rights and all. Know you’re not alone.
I'm glad I moved out of Maine years ago. My doctor, who prescribes pain meds, is in New Hampshire. Is there any way you can get to N.H. for appointments? It would be well worth it. I have M.S. too My doctor is in the Dartmouth Hitchcock system. Family doctors there can prescribe opioid meds. It's less expensive than a pain specialist, and they do a good job while rooting for their patients.
@@klarity1111 wish I could. It’s about two hours from where I live though. I do have relatives in the Berlin/Gorham area and have considered moving after my children are grown. It’s really not that Drs here can’t prescribe it’s that they won’t and what little is available the patient is made to jump through hoops for which is incredibly difficult for anyone actually suffering from chronic pain.
As a former pain patient I can say I'm grateful to be pain free but to all who are currently suffering its Terrible to see how the government is treating everyone by reducing the amount of pain medication they did enough by closing the pill mills and should have stopped right there
Sadly chronic pain patients have been abandoned by the medical community. Doctors have been targeted by the predatory DEA agents who have no boundaries. They have destroyed the lives of thousands of people who suffer from untreated chronic pain. Chronic pain patients have been stripped of their Constitutional rights by the government by creating guidelines that are not required by law for medical care. Yet every state has adopted them and doctors are required to adhere to them in order to maintain their license. This assault on pain management using drugs that are effective in treating chronic pain have lead chronic pain patients to turn to street drugs for relief and others are driven to the point where they end their lives. Is there an end in sight to this madness? This legalized torture has become the norm, when will Washington wake up and face the truth about this cruel act against humanity?
My doctor needs to watch this.
Millions of doctors need to watch this!!!! My Doctor is retiring and he cannot find any doctor who will continue care after 27 years of being on these medications and cutting down to fast heads need to roll over this it is criminal and And violates the oath these doctors
Swear To uphold. Need to get major class action lawsuits going ! This is
Nothing short of genocide!!,
All doctors need to see this they are legal torturers
I think a LOT of doctors need to see this.
They even HEAR the words "chronic pain patient" and they think you're an addict.
In Idaho every emergency room in this state has a placard up in every room that says if you are a Chronic Pain patient for anything OTHER then cancer pain, they will NOT prescribe any opiates to you for any reason.
I had a doctor tell me they (doctors) were blamed for the so called crisis and at risk of loosing their licenses. Doctors are victims of this too.
@@susieferenzi3805 in Texas none for dieing cancer patients !
Thank you for speaking out about this. As a severe chronic pain patient who has safely taken high dose opiates for decades I feel invisible in their narrative. I feel as though they are trying to brush us under the rug until we die off cuz we don't fit into and even defy their progressive narrative about opiates. What I've been thru these last few years has been nothing short of torturous!
Me too. It's hideous.
Its pretty fucked, I always had the additional stigma of being a POC when I went to see the Drs they assumed I was "drug seeking". I avoided getting treatment for my chronic pain due to the fear of being labeled an addict or drug seeker and now that its severe I cant even get a script for vicodin due to the insane new policies. I had like 5 teeth extracted (3 wisdom 2 molars) one time and the drs told me to use tylenol and ibuprofen. Dentist assumed I had ruined my teeth with meth but it was due to un-diagnosed diabetes.
@@jorgevespucci9878 The way the medical system treats people now is just cruel! I was a dental assistant for well over a decade when we were giving people scripts with no issues.
About 5 to 10 years ago I started having a variety of different symptoms. With much of it very painful. Within the past 5 years I’ve been trying to get a diagnosis. MS is suspected & I’ll be having an MRI done in a couple weeks. At this point I’ve been tested for all kinds of things & as much as I don’t want to have MS I just want answers. (I just exist I don’t have a life anymore.)
Within this time my teeth started becoming very brittle & breaking. The pain from exposed nerves & infection was excruciating! I went to an office that I had previously worked at but had been sold to another dentist. However there was still some staff there that I had known for years. First round of extractions I didn’t even bring up pain meds & all I got was ibuprofen (which does nothing when you’re in that much pain). Second round of extractions went really bad. Upper left multiple teeth & with a really bad infection that was also affecting my ear. Now mind you I’m 5’5” & 100lbs on a good day so even before this I had always dealt with peoples assumptions that I was anorexic and/or a drug addict. 🙄 (Sorry world but I’m just skinny!)
The appointment didn’t go well from the start. It was a different dentist who was probably no bigger than me! She slipped with the elevator and jabbed me in the soft pallet. I really upset her when I grab her hand to try & stop from being stabbed in the soft pallet!
The way she extracted the molars was towards the buccal or cheek which in turn broke the bone & an adjacent bicuspid (which I had to extract myself in the car before the lidocaine wore off or I was going to be really screwed!)
I was already dealing with pain throughout my body from my other medical issues & the teeth just sent it all to a whole other level!
She asked me at one point how long had I been dealing with my dental problems & I told her it was rapid & that everything fell apart in about a year and a half. Her exact words were “That’s not possible!”
Um yes it was possible because I’m living through it! So at the end of the appointment I asked about antibiotics & pain meds. You would have thought I threatened her child! I couldn’t believe their reactions! The assistant who I had known since I was 15 actually said to me “what did you think we were going to give you a bottle of Vicodin!?”
What!? No not even close!
Honestly I was thinking more along the lines of maybe 5 or 6 Percocet (Vicodin gives me horrible heart burn) to get through the few days after the appointment. I was already in pain & knew from how the extractions went that the pain surely wasn’t over.
They didn’t even give me a script for ibuprofen!
I’m still so infuriated about that appointment.
People look at me and make assumptions because of my size. In this world it’s not possible for someone to be skinny without them having a “problem” & god forbid you have dental problems on top of it! Did they really believe that I would choose to lose my Teeth for some weak painkillers!? This has been a nightmare come true for me. The embarrassment, pain, & not being able to eat has been emotionally & psychologically devastating. And I’m sure it’s not helping my other medical problems.
Dentistry was my career & I won’t deny that I was always a pretty vain person. I just can’t believe how patients are treated now when it comes to pain.
These restrictions have been the cause of this opiate problem getting worse!
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same and ive been on pain meds for nearly 3 decades w/ NO red flags yet im still unable to find a pain doctor and fight monthly for my meds
People aren't just dying from overdoses they are dying from not be able to get pain medicine that suffers horrific pain. My heart bleeds for the patients you are talking about. I have been through the same horrid.
Better living through chemistry, Doris Reynolds. I think plants and people come from the same "p".
As I have frequently stated more and more, I am NOT addicted to pain meds, I am addicted to not feeling my variously located pains for the very few hours they fully work on any given day.
Somebody needs to stop this. There are so many people who have committed suicide and live in horrible misery. You can't blame the doctors when they're being threatened. Someone needs to stop the ridiculissness of govt doing this.
Where is the class-action for the people living and dying in chronic pain? People who had full, happy, productive lives until their physicians abandoned them.
In 2019 I had to tell my children their father was dead of a heroin overdose. He was found in a ditch where he died alone and in pain.
When my brother was 10 years old he climbed a pole to reach a birds nest. He grabbed an uninsulated wire and over 7,000 volts went through his body and exited his head. He has severer internal and external scaring, nerve damage, PTSD..you name it. He was doing great while he was being treated appropriately for pain and anxiety. Now he’s homeless, divorced, suicidal, and addicted to street drugs. Who is taking responsibility for these decimated lives?
I am so glad you are discussing this issue. So many people need pain control and are ignored. Therefore, there are millions of people in chronic pain being under treated. This activity of lack of prescribing pain medicine is unconscionable to so many.
Two years and still nothing has changed 😔
As a recently stricken chronic pain sufferer I am DENIED available care due to social suspicion of opioid medication. Who decides this fate for me?? I am 75 years old, not some young pleasure seeker, and addiction is not an issue anymore, while I am debilitated and suffering the bed-bound misery that COULD be managed. When will this unacceptable situation be corrected??
As a chronic pain sufferer I completely agree with this panel and had many of the experiences mentioned go through… bc ppl like me are in terrible pain! I can go on and on but I will say the other problems are the added stress family members and care givers when patients like myself are being under medicated! I feel like a wounded animal at the side of the road…. I’m in so much pain I can’t even help myself! Why do I feel pain? BC IM TAKING ONLY WHAT IS PRESCRIBED! Hospital lowered my does bc they didn’t feel comfortable with it when I’ve been on it for many yrs! Now that it’s been lowered NO ONE WANTS TO INCREASE IT TO WHAY IT WAS! So that pain doesn’t just Go AWAY bc they lowered my meds!!! So ppl like myself get desperate and will resort to doing other things to get some relief! Does a diabetic need to fight for their meds? Bc my experience is also the ignorant HOSPITAL STAFF will say JUST BC OF THE TYPE OF MEDS I or other are on!!!! It’s terrible! We already feel like a burden to society so to say such things is UNACCEPTABLE! Not having my pain properly managed due to scared doctors had really put ALOT of strain AND stress in my life which already very stressful due to pain! I’d rather have 1yr of life with minimal pain Vs 10 yrs debilitating pain! Hanging on by a tread indeed! AND ITS NOT BC WE ARE Suicidal it’s BC WE ARE TIRED OF LIVING WITH TERRIBLE, EXHAUSTING, AWFUL, DRAINING CHRONIC PAIN! This madness needs to stop! Ppl living like me can’t stand up and fight …. Bc we can hardy make it to the bathroom for the love of GOD! I’m telling you, ppl like me are not weak… bc dealing with ALL these challenges AND more it’s a miracle we made it through the day! I only found this video bc I’m begging pleading for HELP WITH THIS CHRONIC PAIN! I don’t even reply to txt msgs ! Why… bc I’m in such awful pain! Heck, that’s why I’m writing this at 4am…. I CANT SLEEP! WHY? Because of PAIN! I just want this MISORY TO STOP!!!!! They are killings us by not giving us the proper medical care WE SOOOOOOOO DESPERATELY NEED, not WANT…. Need! Just crazy how THIS HEALTH CONDITION IS ONE WHERE U HAVE FIGHT FOR TREATMENTS AND OR MEDICATIONS WHEN OTHER HEALTH CONDITIONS THAT IM AWARE OF…. DONT! I still have sooo much more to say on this subject bc I have dealing with this BS for quite a while now and the kicker is…. I SHOULD’NT HAVE TO!
Who ever is doing this to us need to live with the pain that we are in
I'm so glad this is available since I missed it yesterday. Thanks !
And yes, limited finances are also a barrier to adequate care and just one more thing we struggle with on the long list of difficulties we face.
I have lived with chronic pain for over 35 years. I have lost the ability to find treatment because DRs are afraid of DEA restrictions. It seems illegal drug users are more important than I am. I feel like a criminal just because I ask for help getting some quality of life.
The 2016 Guidelines even state that “legacy patients” (those who have been on opioids for YEARS), are NOT to be considered for forced tapering unless they CHOOSE so to do, and in conjunction with their doctor’s experience with these legacy patients. This language has been ignored completely!
They terrified the doctors by arresting so many so the doctors are afraid to prescribe drugs.
Yep i am one of those 20 year patients they cut mine almost in half, my quality of life has suffered and the screwed up part is i am a US Marine vet with mri's and medical records that show my injuries. did not matter my doctors told me they had no choice they were forced to do it
Where in the 2016 CDC Guidelines can I find the legacy patients language you’re referring to? I began reading the 2016 Guidelines but they are quite long, and seem to repeat a ton of the language over and over again in several different sections. It’s hard going. I commend you for getting through it to the point where you found the legacy patients language you mentioned. Help!
@@deborahsullivan9765 It was near the end. Can you try a search for LEGACY? SEE ALSO, US DEPT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES LETTER (Never properly distributed!!) from Deborah Dowell, Chief medical officer dated February 28, 2019, to Robert W Carlson, MD, Clifford A. Hudis, MD, and Martha Liggett (“EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE UNTIL TUESDAY, APRIL19, 2019 AT 10:00 AM ET”) Clarifying the 2016 Guidelines, which SPECIFICALLY STATES (page 2, first paragraph): “The Guideline is NOT INTENDED TO DENY ANY PATIENTS WHO SUFFER WITH CHRONIC PAIN FROM OPIOID THERAPY as an option for pain management.” (Emphasis added). This letter NEVER GOT DISTRIBUTED TO HOSPITALS, doctors, nurses, pain patients, nor the general public, which is a DISGRACE.
Doesn’t matter, you can show them the laws and they say, the owners of the company have a one size fits all narrative. I was told I wou
D be treated palliatively and yet, they will not put it on my scripts and still reduced my medications by 75%!
with all the hardware installed in our bodies from operations , PAIN is no life ! HELP US ,HELP PLEASE !!!
Bless your souls for standing up for us pain patients. I am so tired of being treated like an addict and yet our government gives out free crack pipes. What’s wrong with this picture? 🙏🏽❤️
Not to mention they also supply the addicts free needle exchange so they don't get Hepatitis. It's unbelievable that you have to resort to street drugs which I have never do n e and a ome get free help to fight their addiction which is great but the legitimate pain patients cannot get their much help to actually live and not just exist. I would love to be able to work but can't gets meds to work part-time to stay alive as you can't live on disability. Why would I loose my house, marriage an d so much more in exchange for working to survive. It s not like my pain meds give me any euphoria. My euphoria came from working hard to keep my home and food on the table and take care of my children? Only addicts choose that and I an NOT AN ADDICT. BUT I just get deeper into poverty and make 50.00 too much to qualify for any public assistance. Chronic pain sucks and can't get the help I need. Was going to get a pain pump and the doctor was all for it until I changed from PPO TO HMO. IT is not worth it to him as he won't make enough money and working in Healthcare all my life the most important thing is to doctors is $
I'm in pain every waking moment and I'm having a difficult time getting doctors to prescribe me pain meds. I can understand why some people who are in severe constant pain commit suicide.
THANK YOU!! It took me 4 yrs to finally get my pain mgmt doctor, and she literally ABANDONED ME just recently...left no info, no heads up, and treated me like a junkie. I would've gotten better care if I had lied. I was prescribed hydrocodone in my late 20s for back pain..turns out I have quite a few issues..
But she never offered any of my former meds, she said I could only get rx'd antidepressants for my severe and acute pain.. not helpful & I've tried them all back when my pain was so little compared to now, which is where I'm isolated, I want to cry every morning I wake up in pain, I dont know which issue is causing me to feel like I got almost sawed in half (I do have a disc issue & levoscoliosis) but so many other issues. This dr said my pain is from opioids..but...my pain came before ANY opioids. She also doesn't believe diagnoses from other docs. "How did you figure you have Hashimoto's?" Was her response to me telling her I was diagnosed with it..by a doctor.
The more they take pain meds away, the worse this heroin /opioid epidemic will be. I dont understand how medical professionals say they dont know why it is happening.
Oooh sorry I went on a rant. Just, thank you.
Broke my back working at 23 had a lumbar fusion at 25, im 28 now and in alot of pain as it had return almost in full force. Can't get relief. I hope something changes soon because im about to go crazy if I have to spend another day in bed
Thank you! The truth. I’ve been suffering intolerably since this law was passed over into Australia. I’ve not only physically suffered, but I have also been verbally attacked & insulted by people who should be professionals. My life has gone from livable to bedridden. I don’t know how much longer I can go on like this. I spent Xmas day in bed, alone. I have 3 horses that are being fully cared for by my best friend. I am being forced to rehome 2 of my younger horses. As I cannot spend the time with them that they need. I’m losing my life & it appears that no one cares 😔 I also am currently suffering from severe anxiety & depression. I wonder where the hope in all of this, will come from?
I am so sorry .When I because a pain patient I spent a year in bed .I would shower weekly it was bad .I found a way to treat my pain .I has Anxiety from watching doctor after doctor hurting me and not caring as they didnt want to right a prescription for my pain .I was in shock at what they were doing .I went to the emergancy room for my severe pain at that point I had painful undiagnosed Polynueropathy A spine fusion with 1 week of a pain pill for every 8 hours a frozen shoulder permanite nerve damage in my left leg bi lateral oppcipitical nueralgia in my head .THey through me out 3 times .I thought I would die of pain .I made it Find a DR or go to a clinic do what you can to get up .I can get around know I am fully disabled and 4 DRs did this to me .I hope i can live long enouigh to tell them what I think of their cruelty .SAYING A PRAYER FOR YOu .YOU ARE NOT ALONE
I know the feeling.
I don't understand how this is legal to do to pain patients what has happened to us in severe pain. The govt won't even recognize health records proving severe pain. It's not right.
Also, with all of these professional associations why are so many doctors just going along with this intrusion by the DEA and not organizing to fight back against it?
IAMGiftbearer it's because they are afraid of being arrested. The DEA uses tactics like they did with Dr. Thomas Kline. The money and their licenses are more important. The DEA has the power to lock up whoever they want and seize their assets. If patients have to die oh well. Now pharmacists are being sued. It never ends
I am a Disabled VETERAN.... 7 surgeries in 6 years..... just had my #3 LEFT HIP REVISION...... in JUNE.... SURGEON cut me off..... after #3 LEFT HIP..... in 4 years. plus past Cancer Surgeries....Kidney Cancer, Colon Cancer....... CHRONIC PAIN.....I HAVE thought of other options!....the V.A. would NOT fill my Pain Meds from the Private UCHEALTH SURGEON....I had to go to WALGREENS and fill myself. THE DAY OUT OF THE HOSPITAL!!!!! trying to fill an OPIOID PAIN MED AT THE V.A.!!!!!! SICKENING!!!! DISRESECTFUL!..... THIS IS HOW WE TREAT Honest Pain Clients?????? I do my Rehab every day..... rebuilding my Hip....... and NO PAIN MEDS.... LEVEL 8....24/7! SLEEP? thats a joke..... Some dont get it....some HONESTLY DO GET IT!
The people got what they voted for.
Is the daughter of a 3 war veteran And your own sacrifice with being a disabled veteran now, this is infuriating and heartbreaking. I'm wondering how you're doing now? If not for my faith I would despair of this man made cruelty.🙏💞
I am on a kindle and can't edit that comment.I am the daughter of a 3 war veteran I meant to say
I was hit twice, in the same accident, by an 18-wheeler. I was in a coma and in hospital for three+ mos. Then broke my coccyx and had many stitches during the traumatic birth of our third child all because they felt he wasn't being born quickly enough for their schedules. After that, I was in a cycling accident where I fractured much of my spine. I also have severe plaque psoriasis, severe palmarplantar psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, osteoarthritis, and many other painful conditions. I'm immunocompromised and immunodeficient because of my autoimmune disorders.
I have completely lost any semblance of a life. I have four children whom I can't enjoy or participate in their lives. I have a husband I love and can't do much with. I'm bed bound and only leave our home to go to the doctor because it's horribly painful to do anything. I hate going to the doctor and have no primary care physician. I have hypertension and am going untreated because the cardiologist doesn't want to treat me. He's not the cardiologist I asked to see, he's the doctor the cardiology group referred me to after telling me the doctor I asked to see was too busy to see me until a couple of months later. Now my hypertension is going untreated for 6 more months, until I can get in to see another doctor, because he won't treat me.
I've tried everything for pain Including spinal injections, physical therapy, acupuncture, psychotherapy (which was an absolute joke! Just accept it or distract yourself isn't helpful!), TCM, supplements, herbs, high dose acetaminophen which has messed up my liver, NSAIDS that caused internal bleeding, psychotropic medications and anti-seizure medications, PEMF, Vanderbilt medical magnets, grounding mats, chiropractic, dry needling, incredibly expensive stem cells, rheumatologists, neurologists, yoga, and even (out of desperation) energy and faith healers, etc... Nothing has helped me, other than high dose opioid analgesics, which I can no longer get.
I've become a very lazy person, I have no real life, because I don't have adequate pain mgmt. I'm very grateful for what I do have but unfortunately, my very wonderful PM doctor is currently under fire by the DEA. If my medication is taken away I'll have two options, street drugs which I have no idea where to get, or suicide.
My sister had Multiple Sclerosis and her physicians refused to treat her severe intractable chronic pain. The pain and spasticity got SO bad that she couldn't take it anymore. The same doctors who wouldn't treat her pain, offered her physician assisted suicide. She was so desperate she agreed. They put her in the hospital, on a morphine IV and gradually increased the morphine until she died. I resent losing my sister because doctors didn't want to treat her severe pain! Because the DEA is a rogue agency! I'm headed for the same if my medication is taken away! How can I do that to my husband and my beloved children? I despise the thought but what other alternative do I have? Without opioid analgesics, my pain is unbearable!
How is it that addicts can get nearly 100% of their treatment online through a telemedicine app called PursueCare? They get nearly 100% of their care catered to them, including having their OPIOID MEDICATIONS SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO THEIR HOME through the pharmacy owned by PursueCare called Comprecarerx? How is that? When I'm immunocompromised and yet I have to see my doctor face to face and my prescriptions have to be picked up in person?! Also, this app says they understand that addicts will relapse and take illicit drugs. PursueCare will not quit treating them even if they take illicit drugs! These are people who absolutely deserve treatment but they're also people who, more often than not, made incredibly poor choices. They chose addiction, chronic pain patients through no fault of their own are suffering! We didn't choose chronic pain. Their addiction was based on their choices and bad judgement and yet they get unconditional treatment, Including HAVING THEIR OPIOID MEDICATIONS SHIPPED DIRECTLY TO THEM AT THEIR HOME!!!
Again, chronic pain patients, who through no fault of their own, suffer from severe intractable chronic pain. And if any chronic pain patient would ever have ANY alcohol, medical marijuana, or nicotine in their system, they are summarily and permanently terminated from pain mgmt!
Im in so much unbearable pain from my spine I feel I'm going to lose my mind. I'm having really hard time to get opoids I need for pain. I'm in misery bad. And with the war on drugs it's hard to find anybody that understands there is that much pain because everybody is brainwashed to think people are just being addicts. My spine is so bad I suffer unbearably.
I’m so sorry to hear that 💕 , if it’s any comfort. I’m fighting the same fight 💕
I hope you feel better.
When I read something like you have described I wonder NOT where you are, but “where you’re AT” now. The thing about corruption is it generally backfires. M/w, we are in combustion mode. Hang in there bc it ain’t over till the fat lady sings...although...w/all the writhing going on, probably ain’t many of US fat.
So sorry! I too can’t bear the pain.!😮
try kratom !
I would like to mention to Dr. Trescot that all of this started in Washington State by the director of the University of Washington Medical Clinic in 2011. Even though doctors went to the state and warned them that the path they were taking would backfire and they would see rising deaths from the use of illicit drugs if the state followed through with their plans to cut opiates [which is of course is exactly what did happen]. We also can't forget PROP's role in CDC's guidelines that soon followed in every state in this country. So I would like to ask Dr. Trescot if she had any role in the implementation of the current pain patient environment that came out of the university she was at and if she had any part in creating the nightmare now experienced by CPP? Oh, unless you are very wealthy, famous, or best of all a politician, which I am sure they have no problem getting whatever pain medication they need for themselves and their families. To the other's on the panel, thank you for your continued efforts to help end this modern-day witchhunt and for all the advocacy you continue to do. Let's just pray it changes soon for the sake of the millions who are suffering.
Good points 👍
Very interesting comment. Very accurate.
All terrible laws passed by any govt politicians do not apply to the them. That's why bad laws get passed bc they never affect the politicians and their families !!
"Ratchet down production numbers"? And now, three years later in 2023, we are in the middle of a narcotic prescription supply crises. Where is the transparency of all this for pain patients?
It angers me that there has been such a public out lash on opioids when so many people truly need them for chronic pain. It makes opioids seem like the worst possible solution. Yet I was non-functional. I almost killed myself. And it was only through very compassionate doctors who started at conservative methods such as physical therapy and then ramping up to injections. It wasn’t until I finally called and told my physicians I couldn’t live in excruciating pain day after day. I was ready to die.
That was when my physicians finally prescribed these medications to me. And I have not increased my dose for over a decade. I am an example of someone who has thrived and can focus on work and family with these medications. And I don’t know why the medical community cannot do studies on people like me. I work in a highly technical field.
I don’t think most people understand that these meds don’t get you high when you have real pain.
Purdue Pharma was definitely in the wrong with the way they sold OxyContin however our government has created an even bigger problem than Purdue did. Our government has sentenced patients to Insane amounts of pain and basically open the floodgates for all this Chinese fentanyl to come in and kill people! I still want to know who’s making all the money off of narcan!
That’s me 2; surgeries and counting.
Each day I spend laying on the ground and watch everyone else .
Drs are so afraid to prescribe them so people like me suffer.
I am im my 60s and never did drug's and never miss used any prescription i have taken .I have severe osteoarthritis and its very very painful. In the winter its so bad i want to just give up.I have to lay in bed under heating blanket all the time .This just isn't right for us older people who live alone with no younger ones to help us.So i pray that something is done for us who are suffering.
Hello Doris.I do the same thing plus I also have fibromyalgia.now also I need double knee replacement.take care
Hello.i am 64 and have fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. I live alone also and have to do the same thing in the winter.i love my electric blanket.take care
I'm 41 how many years do I have left to live ? Give me my freaking pain meds and leave me alone !
My mom dying of Lung Cancer was monitored on her pain meds...fucking really?
Who the hell cares if she was dependent or if I am ?
they left us with no option but suicide. there is nothing but pain in my world. I can't even fix dinner or sleep.
I don't see how are govt can do what they have over drugs keeping them from patients in need and taking the chance of drug shortages. The war on keeping drugs from patients has went way way past insanity.
I feel like dea and cdc must work for another country of harm or something it's awful what they've been doing to people in pain last several years just horrid.
They're the true dictators of this country under the guise of helping tackling the drug epidemic
I just found a new pain management doctor who prescribed me pain medication, it took two weeks for my pharmacy to fill it, they questioned my doctor about the need and quantity prescribed, my health insurance wouldn’t cover it and it’s generic so I paid cash, I feel bad for all the people who are in extreme pain and getting screwed by the new laws or doctors afraid to prescribe them anything, at one point I thought about ending my life
I have been on pain meds for 7 years for various conditions. I have been taken off high powered opiates 3 times by 3 different doctors with no refills or help. One week ago today my most current pain dr cut my off Percocet...... the only reason I'm alive right now is because I had to buy some from someone I know. I have given up on this fight. I am tired of my life revolving around Dr's and the dea . I can't say I won't end my life but I can say that my dr did
The war is by people with to much power that doesn't suffer chronic pain. It shouldn't be legal.
I had a doctor that had my pain under control, switch to a different doctor due to insurance. Dr. didn’t Ring me off made me go cold turkey. I’m in severe pain no withdrawals, why is this happening? I was taking four day no drug abuse of any kind. Pain management doctors are not very good. At least mini art. regular position did a better job controlling my pain. He took blood test make sure liver and kidneys were good function and he did not have a hard time keeping track of what was going on. What can I do? I just want my life back. When the doctors are going to fight back? We could kill babies but we can’t treat people with severe or moderate pain because of diction. And that is not true because not everyone that drinks is an alcoholic. This is a bunch of BS and people should not be suffering. If someone’s taking 4 to 6 a day it’s not bad. When you’re taking 15 to 30 a day that’s a different story, they need to have some common sense it’s not rocket science.
Thank you so very much!!! Dr Red Lawhern is an amazing advocate who we are all indebted to for his help freely given. Dr Thomas Kline an Honorable Harvard educated Dr of Rare disorders has begun the National Pain Council. Please research these two heros! They are helping us! I am so grateful. Thank you!
I’m 61 and on disability due to failed back surgeries. I’ve been on pain meds for many years. A month ago out of the blue my Dr forced me to taper. It’s a living hell let me tell you. Drs reason was because he was being looked at. O my dear god really? I can’t believe I was even told that. So I’m sitting in my house detoxing with my blood pressure seriously to high. The taper was to fast for my system. I can’t even believe this is legal. Shameful. Thank god I record all Dr visits. If something happens to me as a result of this forced taper I’ve got proof it was nothing I did.
Gaylea griffin9733 how are you doing right now?
Why can't someone do something to help us.
How can this country sanction Russia or China when our govt is making people who suffer chronic pain not be allowed to have medicine they need. Who are the people that are inhumane any way?
I recommend that anyone that lived as pain patient out there get copies of all there MRI”s or anything that shows that you have been diagnosed with pain the dea has took my copies from pain clinics that they decided to shut down for unknown reasons luckily I always keep a copy of my procedures
Thank you for bringing this up!! I have been unable to get to my child on the spectrum in nyc due to the b.s. i have been dealing with since being stuck in virginia. I have all my documents confirming past surgeries and medicine. I even went without for 6 months or more due to drs. taking liberties and not giving me what i need.
I fear for my daughter and fear that i may continue to get worse and be unable to care for my son who is with me.
I have rsd, &copd,scoliosis, &arthritis, been on OPIODS for multiple yrs, never a problem -now that I am on SSDI can’t get my pain meds! Unfair!
Same here
Do you go to pain clinic.you can also go to an orthopedic doctor they can prescribed meds.take.care
Dig deep, and you'll be shocked to find out who is on the board of the CDC. When you find out who on the board, you'll figure out who's controlling this shortage of pain meds, who's telling doctors they can't prescribe pain meds. It's appalling...
I hope and pray every day that people wake up. A small group of humans, control 99% of the human race.
I think the people not in chronic pain not allowing medicine to be prescribed to patients should be put in prison.
Could it be that opioid hyperalgesia is an all too convenient "excuse" to change the medicine out of "medical ignorance" or stereotyping naturally inadequate patient communication
Bingo
Sometimes I think it is a slick way to make money of suing pharma companies and legalizing marijuanna, and the money made sending pain patients to different therapies that leave them in pain but makes them more money then simply writing a prescription for adaquate amount of opoids that stop pain. Sometimes I think it's a big scandal to make money.
Absolutely!
There have been very few proper studies about what % of the general population is hypersensitive and even capable of developing a serious opioid addiction. Mostly these people only look at addicts and then conclude that anyone can get addicted, which is wrong.
And all of this unsound science leads to things such as this, and no politician or doctor is ever held accountable, because "rules are rules, deal with it"
When you have multiple chronic diseases and are suffering extreme continuous pain becomming addicted to an opiod is a minor negative.
"No one ever died of pain?"... People die of tachycardia/ heart rate disturbances that lead to death, shock, adrenal system failure from pain, blood clots/infected bed wounds from being bedridden, more rapid degeneration and deterioration from illnesses due to being in continuous pain /stress on the body and cortisol elevation, being more accident prone from increased physical disability and cognitive impairment from pain and yes, Suicide.... Pain Kills... And there's not a person on the planet that can endure intractable pain 24/7 365 days a year at high levels and not die from it one way or another... Guys: if we're going to find this highly unethical inhumane treatment of our most disabled it MUST BE DONE IN OUR HIGHEST COURTS ON THE GROUNDS OF CONSTITUTIONAL, CIVIL RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS... WE NEED LAWYERS as much as we need humanitarian ethical doctors that can be both protected and provide services for our most chronically ill. This MUST be the focus if we are to win our Human RIGHTS; We MUST as a collective of advocates, physicians and patients with incurable pain disease inundate our courts with complaints to be heard against ALL of the violating parties.
Brother, I hear you loud and clear
I am in pain24/7 ,had a fusion of my cervical spine c2 to t1,left hip replacement, right shoulder replacement degenerative disc disease, and spinal stenosis in thoracic spine,and lumbar spine is compressing on nerves.I have to say that I am familiar with pain,enough to harm myself enough to draw attention to the lack of pain control available to the blue collar man ,or should I attempt humor, and say us " working stiffs" ,the tradesmen that built houses, buildings ,and showed up every day to carry out an allegedly mundane,yet necessary job to help keep progress moving forward. It is now a revolving door from Dr , to pain clinic,where they will do injections,infusions ,and not give pain medication .The ER tries to help,but they can't much,so its back to the Dr,then Pain Clinic,then ER.In my honest opinion it is quite apparent that I need to die,but not on any of the 3 above mentioned watch,for the fear of losing their job is a real problem. There has to be a way to keep us comfortable by switching from different types of opiods to fool the brain,and go back and forth.Otherwise was Jack Kevorkian really such a bad person for supplying a " relief clause" from
Chronic pain that's just going to escalate as we age? I hope there are some answers,right now it guess work,and if you guess wrong,you will most likely fall into the category of " addict" if something happens, and whiner if you keep living with such pain.......God help us somehow,where money isn't king
That happens too. You get a prescription then your lucky if pharmacy will fill it. Why can't our voice be heard and stop the attack on doctors and patients.
I stopped going to major pharmacies like CVS and Walgreens. I go to a.small independent owned pharmacy and haven't had any problems getting my medications plus I can get free delivery. Take care
It's great they are talking about this, meanwhile chronic pain patients are getting drugs from the street or killing themselves, and sometimes both
Its getting worse, too
@@Killmaisy 100% it's scary to even consider going in for surgery now when you are afraid you won't even get anything to help with the break through pain of an operation now
If more doctors had chronic pain... They would have an idea what is like to try to make it through the day when they are suffering so badly.
Thank you Dr. Lawhern. My pain doctor, an immigrant, has PTSD from the secret police. I told his story to the Medical Board of California, a group of people who are not chosen for their fearlessness.
We need an investigation why doctors and govt been attacked this way and how they can get by leaving patients to suffer.
I mean find out why govt and dea doing this to doctors and patients why is this happening.
Is it Obamacare??
Defund the DEA, seriously.
@@dorisreynolds8904 no
Me- cancer patient...My doctor who did prostate cancer laser surgery on me said to try Tylenol for pain. We live in a new cruel America.
Why can't we all get heard?? If there is such a thing as equal rights or any kind of freedom of speech. In America. Why are we not heard. You can't live in this kind of pain.
My wife is in constant pain due her diabetes, blood pressure, arthritis and a couple of more ailments she has, in addition to her anxiety due to losing her Mon and another love family, she has beg and beg this doctors to no avail and she is getting to the point that sue them will cost us all our savings so something needs to be done the CDC has to wake up and act on this problem.
My life ended when I was no longer able to get my medication 5 years ago. My doctor retired and I was no longer able to get anything. I was forced into having to go on Suboxone, which does absolutely nothing for the pain. I'm 39 and I pray that I go to sleep and don't wake up.
I was put on suboxone last year too and just this week taken off of it cold turkey. It was a horrible drug for me, it made me feel like absolute crap but I didn't have much of a choice because no one will prescribe anything else. Suboxone was all I could get but I wasn't happy with the doctor prescribing it because she failed to take my depression into account along with the pain. I'm desperate for help, every doctor I see shoves me off onto the next. I'm 24 and my life has been on hold for 8 years now, I know how you feel and everyone says hang in there and its so much easier said than done. Living day to day isn't fair, being deprived the things I used to enjoy doing because of pain, kills me inside. Anyways, Mary, I'll pray for you. Hopefully soon, we will find help. Stay strong, sending my love, you aren't alone. -Jamie
@@jamielassalle6177 thank you God bless you!!!! Hope that you get through the withdrawals as painless as possible. It sounds tedious to hear it over and over again but it will get better, I promise!!!!!!! God is good, all the time!🙏💚💛🧡
@@jamielassalle6177 fyi, this is all the result of government getting involved in healthcare. And it's only going to get much worse.
@@maryargenziano5379 oh golly I know I didnt realize it until watching these videos. I thought it was just awful doctors. One time I went to ER I was passing a kidney stone and the doctor told me I was going to end up a street junkie. It's weird I dont get withdrawls from the suboxone, I'm not sure why, but thank goodness. So good to hear from someone with similar struggles. It's such a lonely battle.
My doctor won’t even prescribe Tylenol 3 for moderate Arthritis in knees and my entire back. I wake up everyday worse than before. Their solution “take Prozac”
Yes because that’s gonna cover up pain.
We are being tortured because of those who dont need it & abuse it for $$ or addiction.
The blonde pain interventionalist made some huge mistakes regarding pain science, things are far more glum for patient and the health care workers are profiting, Red got it right, the doctors made mistakes especially in the hyperalgia discussion.
My Mom has had to choose between getting her pain medication or exposing herself to Covid-19. Her pain clinic has decided that it is perfectly safe for her to come for in-person visits, even though she has COPD and the numbers are only getting worse as of today (October 19, 2020). This is an outrage! It is time for fundamental change regarding telemedicine and long-term pain patients.
Me too! I was forced to go into an office that refused to clean. I had to use a tablet to,sign in and even though I registered online, I was forced to fill out the same forms in the office! I have an autoimmune disease and three spinal,diseases as well and they refused to let me to telehealth until the vaccine came out and then they allowed tele health visits, but instead of monthly, I had to do them every two weeks!
My doctor was treating me like an addict. She even told me I sounded like one. Finally I got in to see a pain specialist. I needed emergency surgery on my neck, the very issue that had me called an addict. They removed 5/7 lamina in my neck and fused c2-T1. Due to the delay in looking into this problem I had my spinal cord was very compressed (myelopathy) that turned into compression with damage that was restricting blood flow to my brain. This explained why laying in bed made things easier I was falling down a lot. This is a symptom that was ignored. I was even asked “Why do you keep falling?” I replied “if I knew, I wouldn’t fall!”. I couldn’t believe what was happening. In 2012 I was on a lot of heavy pain meds after a car accident. I had a bad reaction to nucynta which was slow release. I started using medically prescribed cannabis. 6 grams a day. I was married and it made things harder financially but we managed. I became a single mom and couldn’t afford it anymore. Im glad I get my script now of Percocet and dislike hydromorphone. Personally I don’t think that hydromorphone metabolizes very well with me. Im being honest. I didn’t even have Tylenol in my home for quite sometime. My family Dr (I’m back tracking here prior to surgery, had offered me Fentanyl!!!! The sane doctor that called me an addict. When I said no, I just feel safer on Percocet. I’ve taken it off and on without issues. To me Percocet is just a bit stronger than T3. She went off about how Percocet had a street value! She mustn’t watch the news as fentanyl that she offered is killing people. Anyways, I am writing a lot. I just wanted to share. Everything i complained about basically was being ignored. Then when I had x-rays, MRI’s ect that proved I had issues that were all under the broad spectrum of chronic pain causes. Be your own advocate. Don’t allow people or doctors to put you down. Only you know your health.
Term "opioid Crisis" is so overused, where is all the chatter on a "meth crisis", huh?!
A common phrase in life is "I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy" but you know what?
Over the years, I actually do hope and wish these doctors end up in the same kinds of pain and look back and think to themselves "these people weren't lying".
Sorry not sorry.😢
i'm living with Chiari Malformation and Pseudotumor Cerebri and Severe Stenosis they put me on Palliative care But my Pain Clinic cut me off cuz i can't have injections due to Chiari . there seems to be alot of Clinics that will only give a Person in Severe Pain a small amount as long as they can have injections.
That's because the injections, which often cause more damage to the surrounding structures due to the corticosteroids used, makes them boatloads of money. It's all about $$$.
Hi Debbie ,I see you speaking on these sights ,I am on also as I have Oppcipitical Nueralgia bilateral in my head .From severe Arthritis in my C spine .I had a fusion on C spine 5 and 6 but I have facet joint arthritis through out my spine .I have Nueripathy in my hand and feet .I also was just diagnose with inoperable nerve damage in both Elbows so my arms wrist and hand and fingers .I have pain all over .I have been treated horrible and suffer .I would like to speak to someone like you as only pain patients like us can relate .I don't know how to contact you .I am a 54 year old women .I Live in Massachusetts .I check out Dr Klines Videos .Maybe if you leave a coment on one of his Videos we can get I. contact .I just need to talk to a pain patient that is a women who is suffering like me .Maybe we can cheer each other up .have a great Day Debbie .I hope you check out the Video .
I don't understand how a govt with any intelligence can treat people with chronic severe pain so horrible. Not even allowing adaquate amounts to keep pain managed. They think they're saving people from having to many drugs to get addicted or die on and have no concept some people are just in horrific pain and it's not about abuse. It's like taking tylenol except opoids actually stop the pain. Whoever is regulating the medicine is looking at it as only for abuse and making it agony on the patients needing it. Someone needs to stop whoever is trying to prevent addiction and prevention on pain patients and let people in agonizing pain have medicine. They're turturing people in pain.
Sometimes I think it's fueled by other countries using the ignorance of our leaders to harm people in america on purpose.
I can't even explain the horrid pain I'm in it's an emergency I can't get adaquate amount of medicine for.
I hope You have gotten some pain relief .I have been there .YOU are not alone DORIS.
I'm there now as well. Extreme pain from being tapered off my meds and no one will help me or explain to why their taking me off my meds all of a sudden. Everyday death is looking better and better.
I wish we had amazing people like you all here in Australia. Our health system is going down this road too. I have MS and suffer chronic pain every minute of the day, my dr and pain specialist prescribed me Targin after a long road of trial and error. Targin was a life saver! Literally! Before this I was depressed suicidal and had no quality of life. All through my late teens and early 20s I was isolated due to the pain.
We have been "out of stock" or low on stock of targin for over 3 months. Due to this I have had to call around and travel to different chemists that happen to have a box here or there.
Because I went to different chemists, Medicare flagged me and called my dr, who now is extremely hesitant to prescribe my medication..even though she was aware of the shortages, I literally told her everytime!! I take 2 different strengths 20mg and 10mg , 50 a day. She refuses to prescribe me my normal dose and only gave me a script for 10mg..thats 5 a day, 28 pills in a box 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ that last 5 days and a bit. I am hoping to see my neurologist soon and preying she can help.
As I was told by my doctor when asked what will replace the opiates I depend on for my chronic pain. His answer to the opiate replacement was PAIN !
Situation is horrible for chronic pain 5 Surgeries on spine Husband not allowed any meds come Hell or high water Systems and law need to stay out medical care
These viewpoints are right on the money. I lived a full healthy and active life and was in truth a bit suspicious of chronic pain complaints. I'm now 75 with two issues that have virtually stopped my life leaving me crippled and bed bound:. A concussion which left me with neu
Neuroinvolvement which has continued to impair mobility and second, chronic pain issues from at least arthritic source and other issues affecting my lower back, hips and up to shoulders. The pain is constant and varies to severe on some days where I can barely move a muscle. I have a PCP from a visiting physician service. I cannot get opioid prescriptions which is all I have found gives me ANY relief. I have tried and tried every brain path modality I can find. Being bed bound precludes me from many options. It does not MATTER if I am addicted, in any case I am dependent. I am non-productive in any case and in my condition and age, if I should make a mistake and overdose it will only hurry my approach to death by a little bit. I am not wanting to suicide, though continued severe pain could wear me down. I am
The best video I have seen yet on this subject. I am in such pain that there are days I WANT TO GIVE UP! WHY STILL ARE DOCTORS AFRAID!! M HOPING TO FIND A TELEMEDICINE SITUATION! GOD HELP ME!