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I love my Swedish and Danish brothers and sisters, hail from Norway!
Love U right back ❤️ ! Greetings from Copenhagen 🇩🇰 !
Skål
@@seproh0 Skål herfra !
Tack, broder Norge :)
Like any siblings we will fight each other, but if someone pick on your Sister or Brother, we will be there to defend. 🇩🇰 🇩🇰
I love my brothers of Norway and Denmark even more after this.
Skål broder
Jeg elsker dit navn looooooool Selvom du ser ud til at være svensk ;)
Right back at U 😀 ! But don't forget our sisters 😊 ! Your all always welcome in Copenhagen...., cheaper Beer 🤣. Guessing your Swedish, in which case I'm so happy to - finally - see U in NATO. We Nordics states need to protect each other. No one "F...s" with the North😀
søta bror. skål og kjærleik fra Norge
Skååååål
I'm Danish 🇩🇰 ! Yeah we did all of that, my Nordic brother said, but the Norwegian 🇳🇴 brothers and sisters did settle Iceland 🇮🇸 and eventually found North America (Canada 🇨🇦 and maybe Virginia 🇺🇸 ). Technically. Norway was part of Denmark, but we can't really take Credit. Those Vikings were Norwegian . The Swedes 🇸🇪 mostly went east and managed to establish a colony called "Russia"! ! Pretty sure they'd stayed home, if they knew what would be going on a 1000 years later 😲 ! Yeah! We do make a lot of fun of each other, and we often do criticize each other! But when the "Sh.. hits the fan" " Don't mess with the Nordic Countries! We may be small, but we hit above our weights 😀, and we don't like to be threatened by some Eastern European "Hitler" wannabe 😒 !
WORD
@@element_five What WORD🤨...!? Just kidding 😎 !
The audacity of that high-pitch speaking, mountain-wandering semi-swede is amazing 😅
What the Romans considered to be "the Goths" included the Norwegians since they labled both the Rugii and Raumirici tribes as gothic, both being from Norway, so I wouldn't give Sweden all the credit for the goths in Rome.
In the Migration Era we also know that Norwegians fought for Attila the Hun based on the large amount of gold medallions found in Norway, the same type of medallions the Huns would give to great warriros fighting for them. The largest deposit of gold in Scandinavia at that time is actually a bunch of such medallions found in Norway.
So remember than when he talks about who did what in each time period he is mostly talking about written sources. Of course all these places had things going on all the time like we see with the hunnic medallions in Norway, alot of it just isn't written down. I have the same thing to say about his take on the technology levels of the pre-viking age. He says that Sweden had the best technology and all that, and I know why he says it, it's because of the Vendel finds. Theres some very nice helmets and swords and stuff found there in Sweden. But he seems to just think it didn't exist in Norway and Denmark simply because we haven't found such a rich grave yet. But we have found pieces of simialr equipment in both Norway and Denmark from the same period, just not full helmets because helmets rarely survive in the ground.
For example, theres only one helmet found from the viking age and it's found in Norway, does that mean only Norwegian vikings had helmets? of course not, we have found pieces everywhere, they're just rusted to nothing. Same with the large Wooden buildings from the viking age that we only see in Norway, they clearly existed in all of Scandinavia but only Norways dry mountains allowed them to survive. I think it is clear that the technology of all of Scandinavia was the same, population density is the biggest difference.
Beowulf is another example I want to talk about, for in the Anglo-Saxon story of Beowulf they don't go into his past, he kind of just starts off going from Sweden to Denmark. But in the Norse version of the story he is called Bodvar Bjarki, and that story talks about his life before he went to Denmark, and in that story he's from Norway somewhere but his brother goes to Sweden and becomes the king of the same place Beowulf is from in the Anglo-saxon version. So theres a clear overlap. The differences are minimal but I think he likes to exaggerate it a bit, not taking source bias into account.
HAHA I'm swedish and all is forgiven as soon as I hear this son of a b north man laugh hahaha love this dude
As a Norwegian I can confirm that we can get a little wild, you might come across this when you drink with a Norwegian 🤣 Skål
I'm Danish! Really! A wild Drunk Norwegian....? Never noticed it 🤣 ! At least you guys stay calm and collected, and nice, even when you get drunk 👍 ! And when you get drunk, we Danes actually start to understand your language 😁😁 !
Confirmed. My first drink was on a scout camp in Norway as a teen. You guys start early. You just hide it well until there's Danes in the room 😀😅😄
Skål min bror
Pretty much how it is today with Danes being more outgoing but bananas, Norwegians being the unruly kid brother and the swedes being the cool, calm, collected and intelligent 😆
Cool, calm and collected? Sure, until someone buys you a beer...
@@Jacob_Junge 🤣😂🤣
swedes being the cool, calm, collected and intelligent 😆HAHAHAhaha you are a funny man ! we all know Denmark was the collected and intelligents ones . Our history says it all !
Spoken like a real partysvenske
@@VulcanM61 th-cam.com/video/45u0JYI8IWc/w-d-xo.html
As Norwegian Swedish and Danish descents gosh I love you all Scandinavian country's can't wait to visit soon 🥺❤️😩❤️
Here is a guide. Go to Denmark for fun, parties and culture. Go to Norway for outdoor purposes(amazing nature) and finally Sweden if you wanna be smug and snobbish.
This guide was presented by a Dane;)
@@MachivelianBear köpenhamn suger
Legoland är rätt grymt dock
@@MachivelianBear Go to Denmark for fun, parties and culture. Go to Norway for outdoor purposes(amazing nature) and finally Sweden if you wan't both.
Come to Visby, brother
As the oldest brother you better not speak bad about Denmark =) nah kidding love you brothers and sisters ! Hail Odinn
The show you recognize pictures from, is Vikings.
The Swedes were also a bit more oriented towards trade as far as I have heard.
🇸🇯 shout out 2 my Norwegian ancestors! I love vikings movies! The northman OMG!
There are a series on Netflix, named Vikings.
It's 6 seasons now, and it's regarded as a very good series.
In a nutshell. Go to Denmark for your Leader, Go to Norway for your Warriors, and go to Sweden for your priest that throws blood on you before the battle.
Sweden have conquered all scandinavian lands so we have some warriors to lol… sweden is the only land in the world that has never been conquered since this time
The Norwegian Vikings founded Dublin Irland, The Danish Vikings founded York England and the Swedish Viking founded Kyiv Ukraina Kyinian Rus ( Rurik from Roslagen in todays Uppland).
Lol wrong
i used to be a swede..now im a proud swede..thanks...i loved this story....and just remember you brits.. your DANISH really
Don't forget the Norwegian settlers in Orkney. Lots of Scandinavian heritage in parts of Northern England and Scotland. My family is (very distantly) descended from the Jarls of Orkney.
important point about the swedes...we laugh and joke about them as if it was some kind of national sport...but we love 'em. :)
Honestly would say continue to watch his videos as they are very informative and in most cases the more accurate translation or relay of facts regarding the viking age etc... keep em coming!! 🙌
I have studied English history and the Vikings are a huge influence there, particularly in Ireland and fighting in large parts of England! The Normans who invaded and won England from the Saxons, were predominantly large Vikings from Normandy! The redheaded Irish (enslaved) and Scots (usually paid Dangeld) have strong Viking genes, and many Islands in the North were claimed by Viking warrior Kings! I have a Danish (Australian) brother in law, and worked for Norwegian shipping brokers (🤨), I have met Fins in Australia, but I'm not sure about Swedes? I know a Swedish princess was the first Queen of Kiev, Ukraine! All fascinating stories - Greenland and Iceland (🥶), and somewhere North to America! Must watch that Viking series!! 😄👍
Beowulf is an Anglo-Saxon text that was written after (or in the late part of) the Viking age, around the 10th-12th century. It's in Old English, which is similar to Old Norse because of all those darn Viking settlers lmao. But it takes place in what is now Denmark and tells the story of a young Swedish warrior (Beowulf) and his battle with three monsters (Grendel, Grendel's mother and a dragon).
A young Geate warrior.
The Swedes hadn't conquered the Geates yet at that point.
@@Luredreierut we are the same people götar svear all Swedish . But yes he was Geat
@@user-ys7eh9kx9p No, you *decend* from them, but you and they are different peoples.
Modern swedes are nether Svear nor Götar.
I thought he was a Gute (from Gotland)
The pictures is from the television serie "Vikings" ... its an AWESOME serie ! :)
"why are nordic females so beutiful?
- Vikings only took the good looking with them home"
the TV show u are thinking of is just called Vikings :)
Hej Dar The Travelar
Greetings from Denmark.
I really appreciate your curiosity of different lands and cultures! I can most def relate to your passion and interest of this topic.
Pls let me know if you ever comes to Denmark
I live in the the capital/Copenhagen on Sjælland also called djævleøen/devil island or sealisland in old days the island of seals.
Anyways cheers/skål ❤ I wish you good health!!!
For being, you know, so biased, like he said himself; I have to say: that was a pretty well balanced (albeit superficial (not intended as derogatory)) analysis of the Scandinavian iron age. Now, I am certainly biased myself. I however must interject with: he didn't go into the Swede's (Svear's, Sveas'?) ventures east and south enough. To a degree we (yes, I'm Swedish) laid the foundation upon which Russia and Ukraine of today was based upon. Hell the first "king" of "Russia" was a Swede born in (today's Western) Russia. But all that was a thousand years ago.
Also, knowing the keyboard warrior age, I must add: I am not an expert, I am just a random idiot on the internet. If you have better info or sources, please, do share. I am very open to being wrong. Fuck, I hate disclaimers, albeit they feel necessary nowadays.
The bias certainly wasn't in Norways favor considering how much he relied on the source bias. For example the thing about Swedens technology before the viking age, it's only based on the Vendel finds, whichw as uniquely rich indeed, but similar pieces of helmets and swords have been found in both Norway and Denmark aswell, the swedish examples just survived in the ground better.
We see the same in the viking age, the only viking age helmet found is from Norway but he didn't say that Norway had superior technology in the viking age because that is of course silly, that helmet is only the most in tact piece, doesn't mean it was the only helmet in Scandinavia, the danes and swedes obviously also had them since we have found pieces of helmets there too.
But he still gave that technology benefit to Sweden regardless.
He did the same when talking about the gothic adventures into Rome in migration era, doing the common thing and referring to goths as swedes specifically even though the romans who wrote about this also referred to the Ruggi and Raumarici tribes as gothic, both Norwegian. Clearly the distinction of country borders that didn't exist yet didn't inform their ideas of who were and weren't goths, but he didn't mention that.
Once again with the religious stuff. It is largely based on the later sagas who often paint Sweden as the more pagan place because they were written by a christian icelander who wanted to unify Norway and Iceland as christian nations. But when comparing local traditions surviving into modern times which is a better metric for judging how pagan a region remained after christianization shows no difference between Norway and Sweden.
But what he did was basically just list source-bias sterotypes. In reality the difference is un-noticable outside of faulty written sources. At least between Norway and Sweden.
GREAT reaction vid. Respect and best wishes from the North Sir:) Subbed.
Not only that but my swedish forefathers established Russia :) and also created the Varangian guard in Constantinopel. The private guard of the emperor of last roman empire :)
The show you see is called simply ''vikings'' follows Ragnar lothbrok and his sons and legacy
"Vikings were doing them Boat Drive-bys" lol :P first time I've heard it explained like that.
Yeah my family owes some areas of Great Britain a big apology for those sail bys
I live in Manchester U.K, I'm half English, quarter Scottish, and quarter Irish lol, so basically blood wise half Anglo-Saxon and half Celtic, with possibly some old Viking in there, cool how we all integrated, it's not exactly right England was ever under Viking control, we always kept our King as ruler and gave them Norfolk to settle in.
Russia was founded by Swedish vikings (who assimilated into slavic culture) but there is unfortunately not much saved information about it.
Ukraine not Russia was founded first, and their first Queen, Anna of Kiev, was from Sweden, she was sister to 3 other Queens in Europe, including France! (Information from Ukrainians!) Many Ukrainians have fair hair or red and blue eyes, they are not all Slavic dark! 🧐
Wrong. Danish vikings.
@@saibot7218 What is the source on that? Not even disputing.
@@BigmanDogs what is your sources non. Other some than some Swedish historians thinks Roslagen in Sweden sounds likes the Rus and therefore conclude everything Russian comes from there 😂
So funny
[ 0:29 ] - "Boat drive-bys". That's funny 😁
We are siblings so we make fun of each other, but if outsiders pick on one us..............
Nothing really started with the vikings. Scandinavians lived like this for thousands of years
Well, boats were built and raids and trading started up.
@@kinuuni Yes, but long before the vikings
@@soderlund3610 not really, we had boats some time before the vikings (obviously, stone age people had boats) but more or less as soon as we had refined the boats to the point where they were able to cross larger distances, people jumped in there and started exploring. Of course this process didn't happen from one day to the next but all things considered, as soon as the long ship was finalised in around 800, they were off.
@@kinuuni Raiding and traiding has been going on from Scandinavia since atleast the bronze age. For example the amber road (mostly copper against amber). It went all the way down to the middle east. The zink came from England. The 2600 yo "Hassle treasure" found outside of Örebro, consisted of swords, bronz buckets and other things from Greece, central Europe and Etruscia. Why do you think that most of the thousands of bronze age rock carvings in Sweden consists of boats? And why are the people holding axes, spears, swords and bows? 35 of about 2000 ship barrows in Sweden are from the bronze age. During the migration period (~y 350 - 600) the travelling literally exploded. Of course the Scandinavians had seaworthy boats long, long before the viking age.
@@soderlund3610 I am not sure I see your point. At no point is anyone saying that there was no boats and trading before. More or less all Scandinavian countries have loads of rivers and lakes and smaller islands. Denmark in particular is is more or less made up of islands. So of course they had boats. it is also safe to assume that fishing was a very large part of the culture in general, back to the large amount of water that surrounds countries made up of islands. And as I said, the longboats, specifically for long distance travel, was invented around the year 800's. Trading through Europe, believe it or not, was done more or less entirely on foot (or horse, as it were).
As for why they were buried with weapons, because the Scandinavian germanic tribes were a warrior culture and it is relatively safe to say that the different tribes were warring each other more or less constantly. Some historians argue that one of the reasons they sought to refine their boats and started looking to other nations was because peace between the tribes were being established and resources were becoming more scarce.
This guy is apparently a Asatru believer and that's colouring his views and his interpretation of the history.
He *is* knowledgeable and there's no outright *wrong* things that he's saying, although the actual impression that you get from listening to him is a bit off...
Swedish Vikings the rus founded the rus-land now Russia and they raided konatantinopel now Istanbul and made it all the way to Iraq.
ragnar lodbrok was not danish but swedish... from the yngling dynasty... his son bjorn ironside was also swedish.. but his other sons ofc were danish due to ragnar later in life became a ruler of denmark. but ragnar was the son of sigurd ring the dragon slayer of uppsala.
True his father was some Swedish lking and he was born in uppsala
the majority of runestones are in Sweden
I have Just done my Ancestry and I am (55% English and western European) (30% Danish and Swedish)( 3 % Norwegian ) ( 6% welsh) and ( 6% Germanic Europe )
30% danish and swedish but 3% norwegian? That's wierd. It should just say 33% scandinavian since danes, swedes and norwegians are all the same people
Yaaaay Great video, thanks for this, such an interesting reaction, Bless!
We a 4ft Deebo, the tiniest of the Scandinavian nations - so that chain draggin on the floor but I prefer the Four Brothers comparison, since we're fighting siblings for real.. Reality though, we only turned Christian to keep Otto from invading our "heathen" lands.
I was reading saxo a guy living in 12 century writing Danish history, he's stories goes back to the time just after Christmas, and it seems to me that Danes was pirates and horrible invaders going back at least that far, in 1200 saxo seems to be exited about the blunt violence by these old tribes, a lot is ofcourse lost because Danes did not write anything down in those days .
Not Christmas but christ, darn auto correction software 😆
hey,he shouted out 2 of my ancestors,harald hairfair and olav tryggvason,most great viking kings in norway came from a small place in norway called namsos.. eric blood axe is another one.. dont mess with scandinavia...
Proud to be Scandinavian :)
@13:42, kind of, we lost Sweden, Norway, parts of Finland, parts of Germany, Iceland, the Orkney isles, the Shetland isles (I know I didn't mention the colonies, like the West Indies and Africa etc., but that is hundreds of years later) and so forth, so we kind of lost our population over time from conflict, migrations, loss of land, diseases etc. And so forth. Its very complicated to explain in a TH-cam comment, but there is a lot of history with our country, I would highly recommend reading about it if you are interested. Also if we are talking about size, don't forget that Denmark owns Greenland and the Faroe Isles, making us almost 3 times the size of Norway and Sweden combined (even with their overseas territories, (I think it's only Norway that have overseas territory, but I can't remember on the top of my head, so correct me if I am wrong here)), and as of a few days ago, we settled on our land border with Canada, so we are the only country in the EU sharing a land border with any North America country. (France owns French Guiana in South America, making them the only country in the EU that shares a border with Latin America, its actually the biggest land border in Europe without being in Europe)
This was so interesting and hilarious I'm now rushing to subscribe to this guy 😂
Hey dar yes the pics in the video is from a tv show its called Vikings and its a really popular tv show following the saga about Ragnar Lothbrok
13:45
as you go closer to poles, area seems bigger than it is. and denmark being in south and more coastal makes it's climate more favorable for farming. that's why human population got much bigger. also sweden and norway was not what it was today. half of their lands were occuppied with eurasian sami people. germanics were on the south, mostly near coasts.
The climat whas warmer at the Viking age though. So the cilmate whas not that different from Denmark in the southern Sweden.
And Swedish Vikinkgs had setelments all alround the baltic sea. And al ot of the Germanic tribes are beleved to have been viking settlers, rather then pure germanic tribes today. Even the Goths where most likley Vikings, or Vikings that got confused as Goths by the rest of the world. And findings at the Swedish island Gotland shows that they had contact with both the Roman/german empiere as well ass the greatset leaders in the Muslim world. So it is hard to tell how many "Swedish" vikings there where at the time.
Norway 🇧🇻 and Sweden 🇸🇪 are MUCH bigger than Denmark 🇩🇰, but they are also much more difficult to approch and travel in - and even more to agriculture - because of the geographie. In Denmark we dont have any mountains at all, no realy big forest and allmost all land is agricultured.
Greetings from Denmark.
Technically speaking Denmark is vastly bigger in size, considering that Greenland is part of the kingdom of Denmark.
RIP Tommy Lister Jr
I loved the video, and i really laughed out loud several times, his humor is great and very Scandinavian. Thumbs up!
But, "Swedish vikings" and "Norwegian vikings" are mostly revisionist history. All through the viking age, the southern half of Sweden, and ALL of Norway, was part of the Danish Empire.
Now you have to go down from Himmelbjerget and take an Gammel Dansk🤣. Denmark was the most vulnerable area in Scandinavia, because it was exposed to pressure from the south. Around the year 800, the pressure came from the Carolingians (French), towards the end of the 10th and 12th centuries from the German-Roman Empire. With the help of their Scandinavian brothers (Norway and Sweden), the Danes managed to mobilize and avoid being swallowed. Denmark got a king early in history. Norway and Sweden for a long time consisted of many small kingdoms that fought among themselves. Around 800 the Danes managed to take control of Viken (Oslo). The king or earl who ruled there had to submit to the king of Denmark. Then Harald Hårfagre comes on the field and gathers Norway under one king. He dies, and there is a civil war in Norway. 1030 The Battle of Stiklestad Olav Haraldsson with the help of the German-Roman emperor takes power in Norway. Opponents ask Denmark for help and promise allegiance to the Danish king if they win. Olav is killed and King Knut becomes king of Norway. But in 1035, Knut the Mighty died. With him, the entire Danish North Sea kingdom disintegrated. For over a hundred years, the Danes had enough to assert themselves against aggressive neighbors, including Norwegians. 1349 The Black Death comes to Norway and only 150 thousand survived in a country that is the 62nd largest country in the world (Denmark is number 132). Queen Margrethe survives, she is a Danish princess and now we get what we Norwegians call 400 years of night.
@@frue1763 I agree that Jutland in Denmark was the most vulnerable, but Denmark in its early nation state was also the most organised in Scandinavia by necessity. By this time, the Romans had already come and been driven out again from Jutland (or the old 'Cimbri' territory, I guess), and the Danes had spread south again and mixed with the people in the modern-day Netherlands, north Germany, and southern England, as I understand it, together with the others, creating the Anglo-Saxon people.
I do also have to agree that a lot of 'Viking' history is revisionary in the sense that people, from outside of Scandinavia, tend to think that it was mainly people from Norway and Sweden, the nations, who traveled a lot to other countries to settle and establish themselves, when this is not true at all. Most of (geographically present-day) Norway's raiding and warring was internally, except for when the chieftains back then banished criminals to Iceland. And Swedes weren't exactly all that inclined to travel much at all, aside from seemingly trading with the Finns.
That said, I think all Scandinavians are stewards of this old culture, and we're all a product of it, in smaller or bigger ways.
@@pipkin5287 The fact that Denmark was united under one king early in history helped to make Denmark a strong opponent of invading forces. Denmark was in many ways a kind of buffer zone for its more undisciplined brothers in Sweden and Norway. We are all descendants of Germanic tribes. Since the ice withdrew earlier from Denmark than Sweden and Norway, we can assume that there were some "curious Danes", who were the first to go north, to find out if there was ice-free land there as well. The fact that people outside Scandinavia have got a wrong picture of the Vikings is the filmmakers' fault ... I think. It looks more dramatic on film with high mountains and long fjords than flat landscapes and white beaches. Then it does not matter to the filmmakers that the character who originally lived in Denmark stands and looks out over a fjord and high mountains rather than standing on a cliff and looking out over the Skagerrak. The greatest of all Vikings is Knut the Mighty and it is only fact we must accept. Quite simply, the Danes colonized, the Norwegians robbed and the Swedes were traders. For us Norwegians, it is still "It's wonderful to be Norwegian in Denmark".
@@pipkin5287 Swedes not traveling much at all? You know there are records of Swedish vikings interacting with people from the byzantine empire, thats pretty far away bro. The byzantines even gave them a name because they were there so much raiding and such, they called them Varangians, search it up.
@@leonardoden4718 the name Varangian isn't exclusive to Swedes. People from all over Scandinavia were part of that service and place.
I do apologize for my inaccuracy though: I should have said that Swedes did not travel much in comparison to Danes.
My ancestors when they hit here in Ireland I guess r lady's adored them lol there in my family tree lol
To answer your question: When it comes to the population of Norway, Denmark, and Sweden - Norway and Denmark has about the same population, while Sweden is almost double the amount of people :)
DNA tests have been conducted on England and around 33% is from Denmark the rest is Celtic.
maybe Denmark was smaller. but the land is fertile.. norway and sweden only got rocks. until today its hard to grow crops in Norway and north Sweden.
Don't mind the swedish comments, they are always complaining, it's in their DNA.
Remember, Swedish is not a real language, it's just a strange Danish dialect.
Greetings from Denmark
Heeey, im swedish and I was the one recommendeing this video to him months ago!!!!!!!!!!! But yeah many sensitive r3tards in these comments, mostly non-nordic tho it seems.
But about the language..... dont get me started Denmark........... xD xD :') cheers
Tsk tsk im totally convinced danish is just an act and as soon as the swede leaves the room, the danish exhales a sigh of relief and start talking in swedish so people can understand him=)
Pølse med brød broder
C'mon, you Danes don't even understand each other..
Haha im gonna love this argue😅( Danmark )
I would say its the reverse sweden got to be the power nation in europe later viking era was just our start , we conquered finland russia Ukraina denmarl norway estland Poland and more later with Adolphus and the guys
Denmark has been quite a lot bigger than it is now. At the time we were biggest, we had kings that other than Denmark also ruled parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland, England and Greenland. But ofc now we really only have mainland Denmark, the Faroe Islands and Greenland. 😄
Harald Godwinson, that defeated Harald Hårdråde was actually half Dane. Todays British royal family are descendants from the Norse invaders. The Swedish royal family have French roots though. 😂 I don’t know if Jean Baptiste Bernadotte was from Normandie or not. If he was there is a chance he also hade Norse ancestors. 😁
the series is call Vikings
Sweden and Norway are much further north. It is colder than Denmark and that makes it harder to survive.
Much further is a bit of a stretch. The location of Denmark being "behind" Sweden to the east and England and Norway to the west north/west makes the Danish climate less cold. Also, during the viking age, first of all the climate was warmer, secondly the Germanic tribes basically didn't go further up on the Scandinavian peninsular than Bergen.
@@kinuuni What in the world are you saying, there was a gigantic Longhouse in Northern Norway... The entire coast of Norway was germanic, and in the innland there was a weird sami-germanic hybrid. I'm tired of hearing this sami lie that samis supposedly were everywhere and germanics were just in the very south. It's extremely false. It's a sami lie fueled by politics.
Before the samis migrated to Norway everything including Finnmark was wholly germanic, though the north was way more seal-hunter than indo-european genetically still.
Those 3 countrys was not really the 3 countrys we have today, there were more different regions with danes and svear stretching all over the 3 countrys and it changed alot. And they belive that all have the same herritage, so no, danes are not the oldest. And "norsemen" are more a collective name the saxons(?) gave all vikings= men from the north (?). The vikings in the east likely traveled east down to, ateleast, Constantinopel, and the vikings in the south and west likely traveled south/west. I think this dude mix and match between historical facts, myth and legends. And later Finland become part of Sweden for 600 years or so. So in a way Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland is one people (I do wish it would be easier to understand the danish....I won´t even mention Finland!) :)
Denmark is the oldest continual state of the three by far. Denmark and Norway both united into roughly their modern equivalents long before Sweden did (which was for a long time a bunch of minor kingdoms).
Norway was dissolved for periods during the period immediately after the Kalmar Union and before it was revived as a state in the Denmark-Norway union.
Denmark as we know it today was effectively born during the middle of the viking age and stayed in existence uninterrupted since then. Sweden was born later and Norway was born roughly around the same time as Denmark but ceased existing for a period in the middle of the last millennium.
@@NATIK001 It must have been hard for oldDenmark to be fucked upp badly by the (new) one Sweden.
@@NATIK001 Yeah, well that´s true, but as I said, he was talking about Denmark,Sweden and Norway from a modern perspective with a lot of myth and legends (I guess "Vikings" inspired him a bit...;) but at that time it was mixed and regions/kingdoms/tribes changed a lot.
As a exemple, Sweden didn´t start to form to to sweden until Vasa but still it was regions and people was Götar or Svear etc. Swedes didn´t think of themselfes as Swedes until the 1800.
Denmark had a big chunk of Sweden and Norway backand forth, and Norway had a chunk of Sweden and Sweden had a chunk of Norway, but Idon´t think Sweden or Norway had any chunk of todays Denmark? But Skåne was as much Denmark as Jylland. Ah well, it was a mess for a long time.
Anyway, I do think that most of Scandinavia is more or less the same people, both historical and today. Peace
@@fragutopia
It is a huge mistake to conflate nations, nationality and nationalism. Nationalism is not required in any way for a nation to qualify as being "real", nor does the nations borders have to be unchanging/unchanged through time.
Modern nationality concepts pretty much appeared in the 18th and 19th centuries but that is not the question in regards to nations existing or not, whether a person living in Denmark cares about being Danish or not doesn't mean Denmark isn't or wasn't a real nation until everyone got nationalistic about it. History is littered with examples of nations which existed despite no one at all having nationalist feelings about them.
When I studied history I took a few courses on Nordic nationality and the broader development of the idea of nationalism among common citizens. They painted a clear picture that prior to the modern age the common citizenry rarely cared deeply about what country they were a part of (there are cases where they did, like Bornholm's revolt against Sweden after being conquered and asking to rejoin to Denmark, but they are the exception and not the rule).
Despite the average Dane caring little about Denmark as such, the Danish nation and national institutions still existed around them and persisted through the ages and the Danish nation provably existed since the mid to late viking age.
As for your Sweden example, the same applies currently to a nation like India, or the United Kingdom, France for most of its history was a bunch of duchies/petty kingdoms united under a king or emperor, it is very recent that French people really feel united as French, however all these nations exist and are/were cohesive regardless because of national institutions. If you examine Sweden you see that the Swedish nobility considered themselves distinct from Danish or Norwegian nobility (and vice versa) long before Swedish nationalism appeared among the lower classes. The breakdown of the Kalmar Union traces in part to tensions between Swedish nobility and the Danish royals/nobles.
Certainly Denmark changed a lot over the years, hell it's under 200 years ago that Denmark ceased being an absolute monarchy but regardless of how much Denmark changed you can draw a continual uninterrupted line between Denmark in the viking age and Denmark now.
A nice video, and it is a fun story this guy tells, however, make no mistake, it is story telling rather than history.
He evidences some rather hefty biases in how he chooses to present his knowledge of the sagas, he also points to the sagas as primary sources, which is a dead giveaway that he is not as knowledgeable as he presents himself to be (Most of the Sagas he points to were written in the 1300's, by Christians, some 300-600 years after the events they describe, and are based on older manuscripts, lost to us now, and/or word of mouth).
On top of that, a lot of it goes counter to the current knowledge, I'd suggest looking at a bit more than only this guy before you make a conclusion, no matter how entertaining he is in his delivery. Just one point to show how he is biased, the people he points to as leaving Norway because of freedom, consisted of a rather large part who were banished for breaking laws, laws that, if current knowledge is correct, predated Harald Fairhair.
In short, his delivery is a form of "skaldekunst", the art of the skald, and skalds embellished and changed the story, depending on the listener and the skalds agenda. There are some truths, but there are also a lot of twists, and perhaps a dose of wishful thinking.
I do not have any links at hand for vids with a more neutral view, but may come back with them in an edit.
By the way Beowulf is an Old English legend, and it is thought to have happened in area of Denmark/Sweden, for a bit more information you can follow this wiki link
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf
i think he was trying to say the tribes that made England where danish which is not true, probably because the certain anglo saxon groups trace their history to Jutland (denmark) even though danes didnt live their yet
@@KurtFrederiksen im talking about the migration where danes came from sweden or southern sweden or maybe from the islands that current day denmark owned. Im defintely.
ive found very little evidence on anything relating to any of the germanic tribes so this could just be due to the lack of research or evidence on the topic that we have different opinions
How can you say it isn't true?? What is Danelaw then.... and of course there lived danes in Jylland at that time... During the Viking Age the population was bigger in Denmark than in Sweden and Norway... So i am just wondering...
denmark so proud to live in 1 of hte best contry in the world
It's unfortunate that so many young Scandinavians lost the ability to understand each other's languages.
I wish that Denmark, Finland, Estonia, Greenland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway and Sweden is one country name Vikings where they speak Old Norse.
Not only that I want all of Canada to belong to Vikings.
Murmansk, Karelia, Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Tver, Leningrad, Saint Petersburg, Novgorod and Pskov will belong to Finland Estonia will have Pskov
Finland area: 567,034 sq miles that's 436,356 sq miles added to Finland.
Population 320,000,000 4.1% of the world population
Estonia will get a 21,400 sq miles from Pskov Oblast
Estonia area: 38,505 sq miles
Vikings area: 6,678,042 sq miles
Population: 1,481,000,000
Age Pyramid
0-14 38%
15-55 30%
56 and older 24%
Government: multi party presidential constitutional republic
Upper House Senate
Lower House Representatives
GPD $180,000
Nominal $180,000
Currency Vikings currency symbol lighting bolt
Banknotes 1,5,10,20,50,100
Fertility Rate 7.9% birthrate 201.16 per 1,000
Demographics
White 98%
Native American 1%
Black 0.50%
Asian 0.25%
Racial mixed 0.25%
Native Languages: Old Norse, English, German, Sami Languages, Native American Languages, Russian
Immigrant Languages: Afrikaans, German, French, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Thai
Culture
Viking citizens are sociable and expressive instead being loners and lack people skills.
Vikings has a lower tax rate taxes will be the same as in the United Arab Emirates.
Cashless areas will be nonexistent.
Gun rights will be the same as the United States.
Citizens wear traditional medieval or old fashion clothing.
Norse and English speakers are given jobs more than other language speakers.
School hours 5 hour with three day weekends.
Summer vacation from May 1st to August 3rd 156 days for students 153 days for school staff
Summer school if you do summer school you can focus on the classes you want or the activities.
Students celebrate their birthday at school during lunch before or after lunch or both.
Students can do class work early so they can have longer class breaks every class has thirty minute breaks.
Graduation children from all grades celebrate graduation for 31 days from kindergarten to 12th grade.
Work schedule 6 hours with three day weekends.
Facial description
Blonde hair with blue eyes 80%
Brown hair with brown eyes 10%
Brown hair with blue eyes 6%
Blonde hair with any eye color 1%
Black hair with blue eyes 1%
Red hair with any eye color 1%
Other 1%
I wish this was real life not fantasy.
If Russia ever came after Norway or Sweden, U bet my Danish ass would be on the the front line defending them.
Oh, so this guy is not really norwegian. Makes sense that his english is so good. No norwegian would pronounce Knut like that 😂
The Viking Age is usually counted between the 790s and 1066 (over 250 years), and the dominance varied several times between the Scandinavian countries. It must be remembered that most of what is written is from Christian monks in the 13th century (about 200 years after the Viking Age). So you have to take these fairy tales with a big pinch of salt. Denmark and Norway ravaged most to the west, while Sweden ravaged most to the east, although they sometimes ravaged each other.
Sweden had great power until even Eric the Victorious at the end of the 10th century when, in addition to the coastal areas of Finland, Russia and the Baltic countries, they also conquered Denmark for a short time. Eric's son Olaf the Swede, on the other hand, was a weaker king. He made peace (ca. 1000) with Danish Sweyn Forkbeard who regained Denmark from Olaf. Sweyn then made himself king of England (ca. 1013) and his son Cnut the Great also made king of Norway (ca. 1030s). By then, Sweden had fallen back while Denmark had risen to the top. After Cnut's death (ca. 1035), his empire fell apart. Norway ravaged a lot in other countries, i.a. England which they tried to conquer but failed. They never conquered any major land except the Scottish islands and Iceland which was more or less uninhabited except for a few Irish monks who fled.
Regarding the delay of about 200 years before writing it down.
There is evidence that the stories is copied word by word, due to the language is older than the time they were written. It shows that they memorize it word for word, just like you memorize old traditional rimes or songs..
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The Swedes peaceful?
Yeah right...
The Baltic Sea had as much raiding going on as Denmark and Norway had and both Swedes and other ethnic groups took part.
Indeed Baltic peoples quit going on Viking rates later then any Scandinavians.
Just to put perspective.. although I’m proud of my heritage us vikings was a slave culture and we were not exactly know for our softness when out on conquest … but it’s just the way it was we have grown up.
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That sounds more like German fairytales then nordic ones...
Donald Trump did try to bay Grenland from Denmark. The Danish just laugh of him.
One of the worst things that happened to Denmark was the introduction of the potato. Somehow they thought it was a good replacement for the larynx (vocal cords). That is why it is almost impossible to understand Danes when they talk....Danish is actually one of the languages that takes the longest to learn. Children at 2 years in general have the same vocabulary as 1 year olds in other countries. There are even parodies about the danish language...:Sorry danes...This one always makes me lauigh: th-cam.com/video/s-mOy8VUEBk/w-d-xo.html
The Roman Catholic church was a hell of a lot worse for the culture, economy and well-being. And of course the cool hair style 😎 😅
Kamalåsus.🇩🇰😆🍻
There's a lot of inaccuracies in this vid. As a swede, there's no actual evidence that the goths that marched on Rome came from here. There's just a lot of theories, mostly based on the names we still use today. Like Gotland, Götaland. Those kind of mean, land of the geats/gutar/goths. But there's no real evidence. He said Swedish vikings did not settle and such, and that is mostly because the Kievan Rus, that was sort of like a rest stop on the way to Constantinople. A lot of Swedish vikings were hired by the Byzantine emperor, called varangians. And there's even an inscription in Hagia Sofia, that still remains visible efter 1000 years they were there. Sweden was great at trading at the time and he mentioned a buddha statue and such. Some egyptian stuff has also been found. The varangians most likely got involved in the trade market in constantinople and then bringing them home to sell them there. In my neighbourhood there was an old sword found a couple of years ago that was still mostly intact, so Sweden is definitly the most preserved and peaceful. Also been to a fair few of the runestones and they are absolutely stunning places. To think that more than 1000 year history is described on them and still being able to understand them is quite special.
you are wrong, the goths themselves said they came from a cedar-leaf-shaped island in the middle of the baltic................................... couldnt be more obvious
I saw something about Goths on a youtube video - so it must be true ;)
@@audhumbla6927 where did you get that info? Definitly need a source. I've never heard people actually describe it like that before
Sweden constantly raided and settled Finland tho, and im guessing the same all the way to constantinople?
@@audhumbla6927 The goths said they came from the Island of Scandza. Which was said to be huge, it's much more likely that they referred to the penninsula of Scandinavia AKA Norway and Sweden. They just didn't know that it connected to Finland at the top so they called it an Island. This is backed up by the fact that the Rugii and Raumarici tribes are also referred to as goths despite being from Norway. The country lines of course didn't exist yet, but this explains why there were so many goths. The idea that they all came from Gotland is silly. That was certainly their latest dwelling place though, as seen by the evolution of the language there, explaing how it seperated from old norse.
i would argue with the phrase "all of England was under Danish rule" yes king Cnut was a Dane who became king of England Denmark AND Norway, but he was crowned as king of England first in 1016 before being crowned in Denmark and Norway in 1019 and 1028 respectively .
so technically wouldn't that have made Denmark and Norway under the rule of the English crown???
No, Knud/Canute was a Danish prince and was not the first Dane to have territory in England. Knud was from the Jelling Dynasty in Denmark and His father, Svend Tveskæg, was also king of England before him.
he was only the king of Norway for 7 years.
Basically if a few boatloads of armed warriors show up to your village, you obey.
I cant speak for Sweden, but for our part(Norway), there are two big reasons that we have such a small population compared to the area of our country.
Mainly it is because about 60% of our country is mountains, and in the modern day, only 3% of our country is farmable land(the real number is probably somewhat higher, as farming has become much more efficient, but farmable land has always been a very scarce resource here).
Secondly we were hit very hard by the Black Plague(1347-1353), so much so that it killed off 2/3 of our population.
So we have never really had or been able to sustain a "large" population until modern times, which likely has led to us having a somewhat more insular, nature loving and rough culture than Sweden and Denmark.
and vikins were the fisrt 1 to discores usa not christoffer columbus by about 200 year
500 years
That guy is bending a lot of history to suit his personal views. Good reaction tho! Keep it up
True. totally forgets Alfred the Great who together with the anglo-saxons defeated the Danes and reconquered England.he also omits to mention that the anglo-saxons or English again under king Harold had repelled a viking invasion army at Trent Bridge then marched straight down the length of the country to engage the Norman invasion at Battle near Hastings where they succeeded in stalling the Norman advance until Harold was slain and the army charged downhill making them easy meat for the Norman cavalry.
@@robertsibley6330 you saxons are just viking cousins who got converted by the false christian desert god earlier than the rest of the germanic tribes
Alcohol is cheap in Denmark, not so in Norway and Sweden. The 2 countries have had issues with drinking in the past, and it is heavily regulated. Home distilling is huge in Norway and Sweden, if they made bread of all the yeast they sell in their stores, you could feed all of Africa ;-)
Love my Skandinavien brothers hil fra DANMARK
Hey man.. There are no swedish and danish vikings.
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My lineage on my father's side has been traced back to a single Viking, by the name of Baldwin Ironhand (my paternal grandmothers' family name was Baldwin.)
I feel like we came from Denmark; not because of the mass raiding, just because of the potato-eating.
I fucken love spuds!
Mmmmmm.....baked potato.....mashed potato.....hot chips.....
I'm going to make hot chips!
Baldwin? Not very Norse. As a Danish historian who lives with an archeologist whose hobby it has been to trace family lineages over the past 15 years, how in the world did you manage to find this out? There are no records that far back. In fact even records of the nobility did not start being a things before the end of the viking age when Christianity had taken a firm hold of the countries. DNA wise you can trace lineages but the closest you can tell from that is maybe second or third cousin. Anything closer than that is not possible.
Also potatoes were not a thing in Europe until the 1500's as they are native to the US And they did not come to Denmark until French settlers brought it with them up here in the beginning of the 1700's. it is safe to say that no viking ever saw a potato much less ate one.
I've never heard of Baldwin Ironhand, does not sound Scandinavian. Maybe it can be: Baldwin I (probably 830s-879), also known as Baldwin Iron Arm, was the first margrave of Flanders, which evolved into the County of Flanders. In that case, however, he can not be counted as a traditional Scandinavian Viking.
ur grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand- grand--grand- grand- grand-... grandmother was raped.
then you must start eating danish Christmas dinner-3 kinds of potatoes is incl. : boiled potatoes with brown sauce, caramelized potatoes -(potatoes roasted in butter and sugar)and potato chips(crisps) you eat that with pork roast or duck, and red cabbage
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No, Beowolf does not *come* from Sweden.
It's a Anglo-Saxon myth.
The Anglo-Saxons where a Germanic people in England that emerged from the mixing of the four Germanic tribes that invaded England during the migration periode when Rome no longer controlled England and France.
Those tribes where the Frisians (roughly from what's the Netherlands today), the Angles (from northern Germany), the Saxons (from northern Germany) and the Jutes (from the peninsula part of what's today Denmark, the current kingdom of Denmark and much of its culture and language originated from the islands further east)
Anyway, the Jutes, the Danes and the Geates interacted, traded, raided and probably shared stories.
So the setting of Beowulf is set in the land of the Danes, at this time that didn't include the peninsula where the Jutes lived, Jutland (literally the land of the Jutes), but was the islands between the peninsula in Denmark and the mainland of what's today Sweden, although the Swedes at the time didn't hold power that far south.
The hero wasn't local but a hero among the Geates who came to aid the Danish king against a dragon that was terrorizing his halls.
So Beowulf sailed south from his homeland, the land of the Geates and down to the land of the Danes where he defeated two dragons, saving the kingdom.
Of course the Jutes living west of the Danes heard his story and brought it with them to England.
So the story isn't from Sweden, nor was Beowulf a Swede.
But some of his descendants, if he had any, may have become Swedes as the Swedes eventually conquered the Geates.
That said, there's been some theories about *some* of the Anglo-Saxons originally being Geates (and that would explain why a story with a Geatish hero ended up in England)
Genetically they're not different. But in the Norse version of the story, Beowulf is called Bodvar Bjarki and it says hes from Norway somewhere. Norwegian tribes were also referred to as goths so it does make sense, the Saga of Hrolf Kraki just goes into more detail about "Beowulfs" early life and lineage.
@@vergil8833 Actually genetically they might have been *quite* different back then.
*Now* all Swedes, Norwegians and Danes have mixed so much genes that it's hard to tell us apart, let alone the individual tribes and petty kingdoms etc that we decend from.
But if you go far enough apart we genuinely decend from multiple different ethnic groups that lived in different numbers in different areas.
Battle axe peoples, bell beakers, etc, etc.
Different Swedes where not all the same back then.
Nor different Norwegians.
A geate and goth is two different things.
But more importantly, a Geate and a Swede where genuinely seen as just as different as we today see different countries, like say Iceland and Denmark.
Honestly perhaps more so.
People would have different gods and rituals and many people had probably never left their tribe, others would seem way more foreign and exotic them they do for us.
There was no TV showing others like Danes or Swedes to us, letting us get used to them and their ways.
People from other tribes where dangerous and unpredictable foreigners.
And many had blood feuds far more bitter then any modern wars.
Like between the wolves and the dogs.
(The Lombards who later conquered northern Italy being the dog tribe, and the Ylvings of the eastern Geates being the wolf tribe, the two very much hating each other)
@@Luredreier No, a geate and a goth would not be very different as they would both be a combination of Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers and Indo-Europeans, same as all other scandinavian peoples. These groupings are not ethnic distinctions, they're just petty kingdoms.
Rituals would vary from town to town just like how folk traditions have up until modern times, that don't make them very different. Their gods seem to have been even less distinct considering how identical the gothic rune stones on Gotland are to other depictions of norse myths and artstyles.
And thats late period stuff, the further back you go the more similar all germanic people would be.
And all this is of course backed up by the genetic material we've tested. Every time we test an ancient germanic person their DNA always comes out as almost identical to one of the 4 main germanics, Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, and Icelanders. And the difference ebtween them in always miniscule.
This is also why we use teeth to see what region certain people were from rather than their genetics. The genetics in all of Scandinavia are too similar, but by the teeth you can see exactly which body of water in the world the person grew up drinking.
There of course some distinctions. Norwegians and Swedes tend to be more similar to each other for example, but it's all miniscule.
Geats are Swedish and Beowolf is a geat
@@user-ys7eh9kx9p First of all, the Geats didn't *write* Beowolf, they where just the ethnicity of the hero.
It's possible that the story existed there as a oral tradition at the time, but there's no evidence of that.
Secondly, no, the Geats where *not* Swedish, rather Swedes decend from among other tribes the Geats.
But like other tribes they migrated, the longboards in northern Italy for instance where likely Geates too or their neighbours at least as they had a long standing feud with the Ynglings.
But they're now Italians.
Calling them Swedish is like Germans calling all germanic speaking tribes in the migration period for Germans.
You don't know where all of them ended up.
This stuff happened in prehistoric time for us, no one was writing anything down.
So Geates may have migrated to many countries without you knowing anything about it and all we know about Beowulf is that he belonged to that tribe.
Not necessarily exactly where his homeland nor where his ancestors or descendants may be found.
We *do* know that a lot of Geates still lived in the parts of Sweden going by the tribes name by the time writing was a thing.
This is far enough back that Norwegians, Swedes, Danes etc didn't exist yet as the modern ethnic groups that we are.
These modern peoples are mixed ethnicities with mixed cultures.
Norwegians for instance are a mix of the local seal hunting hunter gatherers (who later became goat herders I believe) who themselves decend from at least two different groups of hunter gatherers who survived the ice age in different parts of Europe, from farmers from what's today Turkey, and from horse riding Indo-European speaking peoples of the Russian steppes, possibly around Ukraine...
They all contributed to the Norwegian genepool, but non of them can be called Norwegians.
Culturally we have more in common with the invaders of the south then the locals for instance.
I am from Denmark 🇩🇰
You say Sweden is larger than Denmark. That is true today. But not in Viking times. You need know Sweden have it current boarders out of colonisation and war. We been even larger but almost half of the area once Sweden dis we lost again in other wars.
I love Norway, mine we are a little better :0) (DK)
Skål Norge and Danmark!!! Kärlek från Sverige!
Haha! Go Nowray!
Fun video but, he don't know much enough to make a video like this. Maybe all the oil money he got have made him buy too much of the grate Danish beer, that ewen a Swedish viking like myself enjoy.
Sadly he got the history rather wrong. The porblem with the "Viking sagas" is that they often are made up to make some familys look grater then they where. The same way as our history got written by people that wanted to pleace our kings, rather then beeing historicly correct. One of the royal historians listed a lot of biblical kings as kings of Sweden too. King David from the bible is one of them.
The Vikings from Norway was tradesmen and explorers. He got that right. But he left out how inportant they where to build and develope the Viking ships that was what the Vikings whas all about.
The Swedish Vikings served as mercnerys and tradesmen all around the world. They made up a wast part of Charles the Greate's lifeguard. As Swedish Vikings vas not Muslims, Jews or Kristians, they often served as the "middle man" between rulers and traders that chould not deal wit each oteher, dew to the politics and the theological issues. So the Swedes where the ones getting written about by Roman/German empire as well as the Muslim's learned men, while the Danish and Nowegian vinings just sat back at home and dreaming up the sagas. ;)
But as the consept of Nordic Nations in the Viking age is kind of misleading on its own, as it whas a lot of viking chiefs serving under an elected "king". At least that i true for the SWE-Viknings. Today there is arveological and DNA that proveides more data the the dreamed up Sagas. So we know that the Swedish Vikings where spread out all around the Baltic Sea. But they where of diffrent tribes called "Svear" and "Götar". Sweden did not become a nation with one king untill year 1251 when the last war between Svear and Götar took place some where close to the svedish town "Västerås". If that name sounds familiilar you probarly have been watcing Game Of Thromes. And it is beleved that the Sweidihs Vikings also had a lot of Viking priests that aided the rulers and leaders of the viking culture. Most grate rulers came to the the greate mass meetings at the sacred grounds that whas lokadet cloce to a town called "Uppsala" here in Sweden.
And it can be fun to know that the Swedish flag is the second oldest nation-flag in the world. I will not tell witch nation that got the oldest flag, as I don't want to talk any more about Denmark... ooops!
the oldest flag still in use-since 1219 , there were flags before that also in Denmark , we had "The Raven flag" I'm sure Sweden also had an earlier flag
@@veronicajensen7690 Yes there where flags before, but not none that whas the symbol of a nation.
Nonsense, the Romans thought of Norwegian tribes as gothic aswell, as seen by their descriptions of the Ruggi and Raumarici. The claim that all the goths that the romans talk about are swedish is nonsense by their own words. They considered all the tribes from Scandza to be gothic, the goths supposedly said so themselves. Scandza obviously being the southern parts of Sweden and Norway. We see this again with the Huns who said that their influence stretched to the "northern most island". We know that they actually referred to the penninsula of Scadinavia AKA Norway and Sweden. We know this because Norway held the largest gold deposit from the migration period, a deposit of hunnic medallions that Attila the Hun gifted to those who fought for them.
So no, the Romans did not write about swedes while everyone else just sat back in Scandinavia, modern swedes have just convinced themselves that "goth" refers to swedes alone because of 2 place names.
I see it so often that these comments by swedes and danes always glos over Norway, like how you jst now mentioned swedes as mercenaries as if norwegians weren't? Surely this comes from the weird thing I see time and time again where swedes think varangians were only swedes, or even majority swedes, theres nothing to suggest this. The most famous varangian is literally a norwegian king...
And religious pagan events happend everywhere, Uppsala is only considered special for it because of said sagas you like to discredit, though I agree that Grammaticus is the cringe version of Snorre Sturlason. Some sagas are poetic but some are obviously aslo real accounts of events since we see evidence of it in the real world, like sites of battles.
I just feel the need to say that the Swedish Vikings did settle in other places like Finland, Estonia, latvia and Russia and following the rivers down through the Caspian and black sea. There are grave fields found along valga and djepnr rivers documenting this. ofcourse there were already people there so they kind of integrated after while. They traded as far down as Constantinople and served as the royal guard (varengian guard) for Byzantine empire, and even down to Bagdad in Iraq. There is Viking runes graffiti carved in the Hagia Sophia church from this time, basically saying "halvdan was here" . They also settled in smaller numbers in Ukraine and Belarus. And later became intermingled with Slavic and Finnic people's to form the Kievan rus.
You havent seen the tv show vikings? Sigh...
The viking saying "God, save us from the plague, the fire and the Kurshi (Curonians)" was found inscripted on a Danish church, dated to the 11th-12th centuries.
have ya´ll ever wondered why all the Nordic vikings only went west... :D and to think why Curonians raided only to the north.....who was the last tribe never concurred by anyone... and to this day surrounding locals still fear and respect them...
what are u on about? the "nordic vikins"??? all vikings were nordic XD "only went west"???? noooo, the swedes went east.....................
Who the F are "Curonians"? never heard of.
For your information, the Curnians were regarded as brothers. In the saga, their place of residence is called Kurland. In Egil's saga, it is told about how he and his men were with the Kurons (Curnians) in attack on Sigtuna, which was the capital of Sweden at the time. Before the Vikings went down the rivers in Russia, the Vikings stopped by Kurland to hoard. There was also a «recruitment office» there and a «bank». That is, when the Vikings were on their way home after a raid and did not want to share everything with their boss at home or the king, they traveled to Kurland and left part of the booty there. In the saga you can read, beautiful ladies, skilled warriors and in Kurland also lived the most powerful wizards.
Ehhhh.. The Swedish vikings went east, not west.
The Swedes mostly went east.
about size of countries,, just comparing Denmark and norway, when all you're land is..somewhat able to grow crops on (Denmark), and 60% of your lands is mountains you cant grow shit on (Norway) size does not matter xD, and i have not even mentioned the Arctic areas :P
vikings from swedish descent did nothing.. NOTHING?!? :D :D
this must be a norweigian, as we other nordic couuntries sees norway, like the slightly uneducated relative that you always imbarred buy, but you love him dearly anhow!
he mentioned "Olaf Skötkonung" start there in wikipedia.
you should soon se more words to search by... like Novgorod (connection to Skötkonung "Ingegerd Olofsdotter" or "anna the holy of novgorod" )
and from there you can see the the rise of the kievan rus..
and Ruric was swedish. So you can blame us for Putin i guess? ( fine by me)
a writer called "Adam of Bremen" travveled around appearantly 200 years before snorre... just found that out :)
thats why you are reacting to this guys videos, not mine, i just rember, im dont have the actual exact sources in my head or time to do a paper on it :)
but the general picture i would agree on :) it just needed som arguments for this smear piece of what was to become sweden. Swedish vikings were called "Rus" by the ppl that was living in the eastern parts of whats to become sweden (now called finland) ... Are therre a Nation that is already linked that is called something like... Rus... land of the Rus? Russland (russia in english)
Nah, if someone blame the mongols. Kievan Rus was a thriving kingdom and Moscow didn't even exist when Kiev was a big metropolis.
When the mongols came they destroyed the city and was laid to waste. After the mongol empire was split and on the decline, only then came Moscow. Then growing and growing and eventually became the big kingdom/tsardom in the area. Taking city after city and renamed themselves Russia. As you said, it means land of the Rus, so Russia took the name of the swedish vikings. In my opinion, Russia has always been aggressive like that, caring little of what others has done and care more about their expansion, something that still goes on to this day.
The guy that made the og video is not an expert. In fact, I think he makes a lot of assumptions and leaps of faith. He does not represent Norway in general, and I find it a bit odd that you get that flustered about that, calling an entire country inbred because you were insulted.
@@AdaKitten He obviously did not lissen what the guy said.. he clearly stated that Swedes where number 1 ... and he said they did colonize east for the most part, but where more spiritual and that is true... most of our spiritual places where in Sweden after all...
And the original guy the norwegian do clearly know what he is talking about .. sure he do make a few punches to our neighbours but he does so with a laugh.
@@arcticblue248 Ok,, that is fair.
@@arcticblue248 I think he heard one thing he didn't like and just blocked out the rest of the video.
Harald Hårfager🙂
Russia is basicly descendants of drunk swedish vikings who sailed in the wrong direction :D ..With love from Denmark
This video is thick with inaccuracies. Djiiiiis
such as?
@@shizza82 instead of repeating what has already been written, I suggest you read the comments.
LOl, you cant even point out ONE, lolololol shut up then
Danish historian here. A lot of hot takes and of course it is a short video so generally summaries but I am not really seeing any inaccuracies.
@@kinuuni danish historian, huh? Biased? As an historian you should know that Wisigoths and Ostrogoths where from väster- and Östergötland (we thinner) but they are more myth, than true history. Mostly invented by Swedish nationalists in the 1800’s. We had a migration period, but that took several hundred years. To say that the people who reached Rome, were Swedish, is simply moronic. Saying that swedes didn’t influence much during the Viking age, is simply not true. The real difference is in -where- that influence took place. Norway and Denmark went west- and southward, true. Swedes went east and south and the written records of this are several, not the least in Baghdad and Constantinople (the runes in Haga Sofia a funny example). The impact on Russia (from the word Rus, which is the name of the swedes living in the eastern part of Sweden) was massive.
That there’s not Hollywood production around it, doesn’t mean anything.
Norway became Christian around the year 1000, Sweden around 100-200 years prior (the stuff about paganism being part of the unofficial culture’s true though).
Rune stones were primarily erected by Christians, not by pagans, both in Sweden, Denmark and Norway. If they sport ornamentations, they’re young and Christian. The older are written in the old futhark, and not ornate.
But of course you know this…being a danish historian and all.