The Lost Final Fantasy VII For Super Nintendo !? - Gaming History
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- In today's video, we look at the very early development of Final Fantasy 7 and when steps were made to develop the game for the Super Nintendo. Let's take a trip back through time to look at this game's infancy.
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Fun fact, most of the data on each disc are the cinematics. in fact the entire game is on each CD. If you switch discs while the game is running (with the lid sensor down) the game will continue playing until a cinematic loads (Junon elevator and entering/leaving gold saucer are on all discs)
Now that is a cool thing I didnt know, thanks for sharing.
On the original ps1 if you lightly picked up and dropped the console slightly so as to make the disc skip just once it’ll bypass the cinematics and not hinder the in game clock. I did this for a speed run when it first came out. Found out by accident when the controller lead was stuck and the system jostled.
@@hipsteralex6761 lol yeah yeah yeah I do this to my ps5 sometimes. As a preemptive measure
Ridge racer is like 728kb or somethibg. It loads the ebtire game on first run into memory. I used to open the lid and put and juatice for all in
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The transition from 2D to 3D in gaming was a tough one. A lot of games were either left in the dust or lost in the shuffle. Just look at Claw for Windows released in 1997. It's considered an underrated classic 2D platforming game today but when it was first released almost every critic was criticizing it for not being in 3D. It's sad when a great game is forgotten for stupid topical reasons.
Yeah was a funny time back then. Similar thing happened in the next gen with ps2 and gamecube etc Nintendo was heavily hit by it not being mature enough. Which nowadays jsut seems ridiculous.
Holy shit. I forgot about Claw. I loved that as a very young kid.
Well, it was a brilliant move that paid off at the end for Chrono Trigger because it became the BEST RPG of it's time (if anything, all time) but it also worked out at end for 7 as well being on the PS1.
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It's so strange to think that here in the UK, we didn't get any JRPG's up until the PS1, more so during the age of the internet where we can see all of what we missed.
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I remember getting a Next Generation magazine that had a bunch of in game stuff from FFVII for N64. Never heard about the stuff in this video though. Super cool.
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Ten minutes in and still no sign of ff7 for SNES
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I've known about the beta FF7 battle with the FF6 chars for years now, but you produced a lot of info that I've never heard before! Great video! ^.^
PS: That poppy pattern is particularly pretty
That gets me thinking. If there was any code at all for FF7 on SNES, I wonder if it was used for SMRPG instead, as FF7 was to be a 3/4 prospective game, like what SMRPG is. For that matter, maybe people with the skills in hacking SNES games could hack SMRPG into a FF7? That would be fun to see. Any takers? Lol.
As for ideas on how this would work in regards for the size of the game itself, an example I would point out would be that people have hacked the bootleg FF4 on NES to be more true to the SNES original, but was also split up between 3 carts, where each successive cart continues the save file from the previous one.
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I used to have a subscription to a game magazine in the 90's. I used to bring them to school and read them, I swear I had an issue where it had a 3D render of Cloud and it said coming soon for N64. Mighta been Gamepro magazine but can't remember. Wish I kept all of them.
I feel like the popular narrative that JRPGs before FFVII were not received well in the US is oversold. I and others i knew loved Dragon Warrior, the SNES final fantasies, Chrono trigger, earthbound ... Those were all popular here. Maybe not as much as other titles but they had a niche.
I only remember that the game was first announced for the N64. But the modules were not able to play the amount of data and the videos in that format and so it came to the deal between Sony and Squaresoft, because the PS1 simply offered the better conditions at that time. I didn't know about a SNES game, interesting.
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Great video :) , but I Couldn't find this one online ;( Although did find a FF7 for NES and a translation patch :) Epic
I saw that hack too!! Crazy awesome
The game that we in America call Final Fantasy 2 was in Japan originally called Doki Doki Panic.
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In the vein of the master chief collection for Halo, truly it would be great to have something like this for the FF franchise
1 in west was hard as hell in my 6y of age 2 came with my snes loved it wonderfull story 3 was so awsome and got 7 8 9 on pc roms actuall sweet box sets
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Re-Watching the story of final fantasy releases in north America, it's interesting at least how back then (at the very least) squaresoft thought so lowly of the western audience, there is also the example of final fantasy mystic quest, released as final fantasy USA in Japan and one of the most notorious elements was the reduced difficulty, they made that game because western audiences weren't (apparently for them) used to RPG titles so they made them easier on purpose...
Not sure it that was just square executives making random assumptions, if they actually made a market study or just the regular japanese gaijin-complex in another level, but at least is an interesting point
When you think about it actually kind of makes logical sense to make final fantasy 7 Super Nintendo but the problem with that would be will we ever be on on the same page as Japan when it comes to the franchise if at was still Super Nintendo
I wish Nintendo would release the games that almost were. With such love for 8 and 16 bit still alive, surely itd be worth it for them to make the games
Okay, that makes a bit more sense. When I saw the title, I assumed it was originally going to be a SuperDisc game, which wouldn’t really add up with the timeline. By the time VII would have been under production, the SuperDisc had already been canceled.
Wow that’s so dope. I was wondering what was going on at the time with various shipping delays due to resource constraints. Dope! Great episode
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for Super Nintendo? I heard about them making it for Nintendo 64 but got Scrapped due to the N64's Limitations! "Get N or get out!" Yeah for Square they got out!
I love the Final Fantasy 2 ,4.
Hey, I’m not sure if this is in the range of what you cover here since it’s from about a decade and a half ago, but there was a planned 3D remake of FF6 that was being made by Square Enix
There’s very little known about it, mostly just that it was being planned back in 2010 and that Tetsuya Nomura wanted to work on it
Might be a dead end but you were able to find info on the SNES FF7 project so maybe not? 🤷♂️
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the actual content related to the video title starts at around 6:20.... yep, 6:20 min intro.
Was My understanding that there is 4 final fantasy 7's in total. The playstation version we know. Another version of the play station version we know which had to get axed. An N64 versions and a snes version.
I've looked into this extensively in the past and you still showed me something I hadn't seen before with the image of a 16-bit game for FF7. There's usually always something more to see/learn out there!
Have you ever gone into the cut content for FF7? There's some real interesting stuff involved with that and some of it relates to the FMV scenes we got in the official game. :)
My favorite game growing up got it on the first day it came out at Electronic Boutique. Even picked up a copy of Tobal#1 in order to play the demo that was included as a bonus disc 🤩😘😍😉😜 wow those were the days .
Those days sucked and we're boring. Those games are still around today
Reminds me back then (don't know if they still do, I don't visit EB anymore) they had a 10 days return policy for any reason. I would buy a game, finish it then return it because "I didn't like it" and grab the actual game that I was going to buy. Buy one game but get to play 2.
Everyone went to help with chrono trigger but couldn't come up with a sequel
I wish it would have been 2D sprites. PS1 era polygons haven’t aged well.
Parasite Eve is based on a book. So it wouldn't be unused Final Fantasy ideas.
Where is the connection between ff7 and xenogears? I heard Takahashi was involved in the early stages of development and then he and his wife moved and formed monolith soft. Interestingly xenogears is a 2d sprite game in a 3d environment and ff7 the opposite. And I heard xenogears story was first intended to be the the one for ff7. Right?!
It is not possible for the idea of parasite eve to be a planned ff vii on the snes for one simple reason. The game is based on a novel and eventually a movie of the same name. It has no link to anything FF.
Maybe you should have researched parasite eve first.
yeah i feel like final fantasy would fit more as a snes game because well the fx chip
I think I have the original Final Fantasy in the UK on the Gameboy.
Can anyone tell me if this came out on pal or it was another FF game I had?
If so that must have been the only release in PAL.
I'm not in the U.K. so maybe it's different but here in the U.S. there four games released on the Gameboy using the Final Fantasy name. There was The Final Fantasy Adventure and Final Fantasy Legend 1-3. None of these were Final Fantasy games. Adventure was a retitled Mana game and the Legend trilogy was from the SaGa series. Proper Final Fantasy games only because available on the GameBoy Advance. They were ports/remasters of the the first 6 except for 3.
Kefka villian from FF3
I've been aware for sometime that Final Fantasy VII was not only planned for the N64, but originally for Super Nintendo before it.
My first experience with RPGs was Secret Of Mana, then Super Mario RPG and then Breath Of Fire II before finally getting into the Final Fantasy Franchise.
Super Mario RPG is an absolute classic.
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I knew it was supposed to come out on N64 but I never knew snes wow great video
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I found someone trying to sell a final fantasy 7 for the NES on ebay for $50 which of course if fake I’ll never pay anyone for fake copies if you see any Super Nintendo versions you should know that’s fake also the game didn’t release on any of those consoles until the PS1 was here if you want final fantasy 7 then go buy it for the PS4 PS5 PC or Xbox series X whenever it gets released on Xbox
Final fantasy 7 for the nes does exist. It's a Chinese bootleg version. Look it up.
Nobody needs to look up anything that wasn’t published by square enix
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@@samamir8765 I agree he really needs help he probably still plays on the NES today his mind isn’t right
I'm surprised no one has a 2D version for the SNES, especially after the NES version. I guess legal risks were too high.
FF7 should be remade in HD-2D
@@mikej2020 I'm pretty sure if it was officially remade in 2D, it would be in HD if released on modern hardware.
@@derossetmyers47 HD-2D is what the Octopath Traveler engine is called… it’s been used already to remake Live A Live and Dragon Quest 3.
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FF7 couldve come out around 1999 on the N64, they did RE2!
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Final Fantasy 7 also had a tech demo for the Nintendo 64, however if you look at the characters used they were based on the Final Fantasy 6 cast of characters to test the battle system.
Everywhere in the Americas they got FF1. It’s the same market as the US
Pretty sure the likes of Cuba, Venezuela etc didn't get Final Fantasy...when I went to Cuba it was close to impossible to get a Potato!
@@LadyDecade I’m from Venezuela. You could buy the game at the store.
snes?? as far as i remember it was never meant for snes , but i do remember seen some n64 pictures of a prototype
“Chrono Triggin”
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If ff7 came out on snes the graphics would have aged better but it would not have sold as well as it did
FF 6 and 3 confuses me, how do i buy all of the FF games?
I want them all on PlayStation consoles but am willing to get them on Nintendo.
Square just dropped a collector's edition with all the games in one place. I don't know about Xbox, but Nintendo and PS5 have all games. Nintendos ff15 is different and XI is probably missing.
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I dont fully understand your problem here 🤔
They N64 was far superior but their choice to break the contract with Sony to use their CD drive was terrible. That decision not only opened the door for Sony to become a direct competitor but it pushed away developers and gamers. They really thought that little to no load times along with MUCH better real time 3D rendering would win over long movie quality cutscenes, long load times and lesser realtime rendering. I mean, from a nerdy tech loving point of view it makes sense but they weren't nor are (nor any console maker) catering to that crowd.
Square betrayed Nintendo, the same way Nintendo betrayed Sony.
So the FF7 Super Famicom team were moved to work on a game that's better than the final product that would be Final Fantasy 7, which is Chrono Trigger.
thought it was planned for the n64 but the carts wouldnt allow the quality and size they needed and wanted for ff7 and its fmvs. closest we ever got to this are the chinese ff7 made by some rando company, the fan made ff7 snes version and rumors mixed up. FF probly woulda died if it went on the crappy in comparion tech of the n64. The fact they needed an expansion pack to get more ram and the general awfulness of the cart tech it was a no brainer.
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They could never have released Final Fantasy 7 on the Super Nintendo, it would have taken over 88 cartridges.
Not a 2d version, which is how they would have made it. It would have been just like six with different sprites, duh
ff6 worker fine.
@@jim-es8qk ff6 wasn't 1.3 gigabites.
@@kennymetz187 that would have been for all intents and purposes a totally different game.
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I still have my boxed Final Fantasy after all these years (complete with map and manual in primo condition, too!) and I keep it in my area of my collection with the other great Final Fantasy titles as they deserve their own area to showcase along the 1500+ games and consoles I have in my man cave. I was very young when it first came out and had no understanding to the game mechanics, but later as I grew older I played it and loved the turn-base style! I've always been a D&D fan and although this is not exactly the same genre, it does have a throwback to it being turn-based and who would not love it?
FFVII was for nes
it's quiet impressive if a developer chooses their platform best matching to fulfill their vision.
Why didn't Nintendo just design the N64 with a disc reader? That system would have dominated its generated and gave the next one a run for its money.