I bought an improved tamarillo from you and it’s very good. My tree in just a hand dug hole and lasted three years with abundant fruit sets, before it perished. Now I have five from seed of the same fruits and on mounds this time. 1100 elevation, they seem to love it.
The Tamarillo grows better here than in CA. On the west coast it is bothered by aphids, mites and frost. The sad part of the plant for me is, I do not care for the fruit much. I pushed myself to invent recipes over the years. Most failed a few past the muster but most would be better using some other produce. Interesting plant but difficult to use. If it is cooked with skin and seeds it becomes almost inedible. Raw is about the only reasonable recipe.
I live in New Zealand, my grandfather had a tamarillo tree and it lasted for over 20years, grow about 8 foot tall and was shaped like a palm tree, I love them 👍
The tree must really like New Zealand. In California and in Hawaii they seldom last more than 4 to 6 years. I believe the aphids that attack them carry virus that shortens their life.
I am familiar with the red ones and really don't care for them much. This is a massive improvement over the older forms. I have found a new friend in tamarillo since I found this variety.
Great video!👍 Excellent description. About how long does it take to produce fruit? I got another question off topic. Have you ever heard of freezing pollen for later use?
Under good conditions you can start picking around 18 months with the main crop coming on during the second year. Yes, pollen storage is extensively used for breeding and for raising crops like Cherimoya. We only bother to freeze the stuff if you need to hold it for an extended period. With Cherimoya I just keep it in a cool location.
Tree Tomato has no E at the end but yes, this is the plant they call Tree Tomato but it s the best version of it I have ever grown. I think most types are far too acid. This one is sweet.
I'd say the plant is perfect in zones 11 & 10. It was possible in zone 9 where I lived in CA. In the right micro climate spot with a bit of cold protection it might get by in 8 B. It would be worth a try. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has grown the plant there.
Truth be told, I have tried cooking this fruit in several different ways and find I can only enjoy the flavor when raw. Flavors either from the skins or the seeds enter the mix when cooked and I feel they destroy the delicate flavor. This wasn't true with the original acidic varieties of this fruit but the new sweet types are best raw.
The plants don't tolerate much in the line of freezing weather. They would get by in Fremont, CA USDA zone 9B. Biloxi is rated 9A, there is a chance the plant my grow for you. Seeds can be found on my website. www.greengardenservice.net
You are correct. I no longer have the seeds at this point. I was just checking on my mother plants yesterday. Perhaps later in summer I will have the seed again.
If the plant is in good health otherwise then it possible pollination is lacking. This could be due to temperature range or lack of wind where the plant is placed. If it is indoors you need to put a fan on it occasional or move pollen yourself.
Hi Bill. Do you happen to know the name of that variety? I live in Europe and I know you don't ship outside of the US, so knowing the name might help me get the seeds somehow.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thanks man much appreciated. I ended up repotting a bunch of sabara seedlings and planting 8 avocados trees, by the time I finished digging those holes I was wrecked. Will have to do the pineapples next weekend 😅
I've got some producing from seed I saved from a fruit Musa Marvin gave me when I did the banana farm tour. They aren't bad eaten out of hand and very good just split in half and sprinkled with brown sugar. I tried some in a kuchen (German custard pie) and they were tart, kind of like rhubarb. My neighbor cooked them up in an apple cobbler and that was excellent. The seeds are a bit larger and tougher than a tomato so that has to be taken into account. I've got some new forest tamarillo I just planted but the fruit is supposed to be yellow. No idea what variety is actually is. I also have some dwarf tamarillo which has tiny yellow fruit and very tiny seeds. The fruit is inedible though as the few I've tried were worse than biting into a raw acorn. When your nursery open? I'd like to give your variety a try.
I have grown both of the types you describe and neither were very impressive from my point of view. I thought I was done with Tamarillos in this life until I grew this one. I wouldn't say it is the perfect Tamarillo but it is the best one to date. The plant still has head space for improvement but the seeds were about the same as tomato, the sugar higher than most tomatoes and almost sub acid. Any less acidity and it wouldn't have tasted right.
Yes, but I didn't find they grew well in California. I am not sure what they would do in Hawaii. Finding this fruit was almost by accident. I had given up on Tamarillo because the fruit was acid and they were pest prone in CA. I just happened to be at a Hawaii Tropical Fruit Growers seed exchange when a guy presented me with this fruit claiming it was the best tamarillo to date. He was right and so I am back on the tamarillo train.
I came hunting for this tree tomato video when i was checking for a Asian (Nepali) tree tomato pickle recipe. Checked in few store in Chicago. Couldn't find. What should i search for ?
@@111humtum There used to be a California growers of exotic produce that distributed these but the price was very high. It appears to be a vegetable that requires a spot in the home garden.
You must mean back to the Mainland, Hawaii is one of the states! Thanks for the feed back on the channel. I can ship back to the Mainland if you live in the 46 lucky states. If you live in CA, AZ, TX or LA I can't ship there. Because inspection is a 50 mile round trip the order has to be large enough to make it worth while. Use my email for more information. greengardenservice@yahoo.com
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Gotcha Bill I live in L.A. AKA lower Alabama. I visited your web page this morning. You should include a link in your video description. Plan to order some plants from you in February or March. This Tamarillo and your large passion fruit are on the top of my list. But man you are living in paradise 😊😊 you damn sure did something right in your life!!
I just follow my nose in life and don't pay much attention to other peoples opinions about what is right here. Hence my life is mine to live and I enjoy myself. Mostly our lives are the product of our beliefs and intent. I have very few beliefs and my intent is to leave the world a better place than I found it, if possible. Sometimes I do put the link in, sometimes I forget. I have a lot on my mind most of the time. I just added it to the video because of the reminder. I like the link for seed sales, I don't like it for plants because mostly I intend to sell the plants on the Island and do not like shipping them. This causes internal conflict while posting and showing plants in the video. I fully understand why you would want me to include the link though. Aloha, Bill
my seeds are located at the website. www.greengardenservice.net At the moment I am out of seed for this tree tomato for about a month. The see will come back as the new crop ripens.
If you live in Hawaii you can walk into my nursery anytime the gate is open and buy plants from the table. If you live in the Mainland you can order seeds from my website. www.greengardenservice.net
Here you are. I am looking for over and over how to have a Tree Tomato aka Tamarillo just like in your video, would you please tell me how to I order tree or seed from you. Thank you.
Sure. You can order these seeds off of my website. www.greengardenservice.net The seeds are under the Products for Sale button on the left margin. Aloha
I just returned from my website www.greengardenservice.net Everything is normal there and the sight functioning. No idea what you might be referring to.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 using chrome I got a security warning and it shows "Not secure" on the top left by the URL. After I click the button to do it anyway, everything works just fine, but to anyone coming to the site for the first time, it's not going to look legit.
@@huzbum This message probably occurs because my greengardenservice address actually rides inside Fremontica.net. All it is telling you is do not to use your credit card directly on the sight. When you cash out you are transferred to paypal and their sight is secure. I wish google would not do this but there is nothing I can do to control what their AI does. Aloha
The website is open to the public so I am confused as to why you aren't able to use the same means everyone else uses. Anyway, late summer I should have this type back again. Right now I have a Hawaiian pure orange form and the classic red.
The life span will depend on your climate, care and pest issues. The plants were 7 years old in California before I chopped them down because of mites. Here we do not have mites and the plants have remained healthy for the past 4 years. I doubt it is worth pushing them past 5 to 7 years. They get weak with old age.
@@mauricekeith2920 Yes, you will have to. They do not survive sub freezing weather. It takes about 18 months of good weather to get them to fruit. California, Florida and Hawaii are they only places where they are hardy in the garden.
I prefer to use my cherry tomatoes but it would work. It has a tough skin so you either scoop it out, peel it or cook it and run it through a food mill.
It is possible since they are in the same family. I am not sure what the advantage would be. I think disease tolerance between tomato and tamarillo are similar.
Would love to get that variety you have. For whatever reason, here in the Bay Area I have trouble getting mine to grow. It looks good, just sort of sits there though. Little growth, no flowers yet. Been in the ground since spring, about 3 feet tall. Any advice?
You can find the seeds for this plant on my website at www.greengardenservice.net I figure you have been in the ground for about 6 to 7 months. Tamarillo usually take 18 to 24 months before they fruit. Most are around 6 feet when they start to flower. You are about 1/2 way there in size and about 1/3 of the way there in time line. The plants do not like hot dry weather. Mulch and keep the roots moist. They also get aphids in CA so watch for this. The aphids spread virus that weaken the plants and make them less productive.
If you have something that I am interested in I may consider a trade. You would have to produce a list of your seeds for me to peruse first. my website address is good. If you can't get the link to work just type the address into google. I just checked it and it works fine. www.greengardenservice.net
it's a fruit to its own class great line bill that can describe some of the politicians but we won't get into that we will we, just curious would that be good off the tree with garlic salt sprinkled over as you eat it with a spoon this is how I assault my garden and Jill knows that I won't come out for a while when walking over to the garden with garlic salt in hand. have a good day Professor say hello to Ellen.
Up to the point of this video eating the fruit fresh from the plant was the only way I'd consumed it I actually think that is the best way to eat it. I made a batch of Tamarillo, Pineapple and Jalapeno salsa. It was okay but I prefer tomatoes. I made another batch of Tamarillo spaghetti sauce and it was okay too but still, my sauce tastes better from tomatoes. I have decided fresh is the way to go. The flavor changes when it is cooked.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 I really enjoyed your video. This plant is so prolific in it's fruiting, it's just another way to enjoy it. Raw, No Seeds, beautiful color, blend with water, strain, dilute to taste. OMG, I encourage you to try it. I'm on the big island
@@cherylgriffith2682 Okay, different strokes for different folks. I've grown this fruit for decades and never really thought much of it's quality. The old acid forms were okay peeled, seeded and used in salsa. I've tried several ways to eat this sweeter form of the fruit and found fresh out of the hand was the only way I could do it. The purple juice around the seeds in this type does have a very nice grape juice taste. It gets lost as soon as it is mixed with the pulp and there isn't enough to collect on it's own. I find the seeds and the skin to have an off flavor.
I bought an improved tamarillo from you and it’s very good. My tree in just a hand dug hole and lasted three years with abundant fruit sets, before it perished. Now I have five from seed of the same fruits and on mounds this time. 1100 elevation, they seem to love it.
The Tamarillo grows better here than in CA. On the west coast it is bothered by aphids, mites and frost. The sad part of the plant for me is, I do not care for the fruit much. I pushed myself to invent recipes over the years. Most failed a few past the muster but most would be better using some other produce. Interesting plant but difficult to use. If it is cooked with skin and seeds it becomes almost inedible. Raw is about the only reasonable recipe.
You really tempted me so I had to place an order for seeds just now. I am excited to try growing this tree.
I got your order and will ship tomorrow. Aloha.
I live in New Zealand, my grandfather had a tamarillo tree and it lasted for over 20years, grow about 8 foot tall and was shaped like a palm tree, I love them 👍
The tree must really like New Zealand. In California and in Hawaii they seldom last more than 4 to 6 years. I believe the aphids that attack them carry virus that shortens their life.
Same here. My grandmother used to grow them in Papamoa and would sell them at the Turner's fruit auctions in Tauranga 👍😀
I recently had one that I found at a market in San Jose. It was the red imported from New Zealand. To me, the flavor is a mix tomato and lilikoi.
I am familiar with the red ones and really don't care for them much. This is a massive improvement over the older forms. I have found a new friend in tamarillo since I found this variety.
Thank you , Sir!
You are welcome!
Great video!👍 Excellent description. About how long does it take to produce fruit? I got another question off topic. Have you ever heard of freezing pollen for later use?
Under good conditions you can start picking around 18 months with the main crop coming on during the second year.
Yes, pollen storage is extensively used for breeding and for raising crops like Cherimoya. We only bother to freeze the stuff if you need to hold it for an extended period. With Cherimoya I just keep it in a cool location.
I live in New Zealand. Yes you can freeze them, they are great with ice cream, makes good jam, yummy in fruit salad
I wander if this is the same one they call, tree tomatoe. I enjoy your shows Bill, great job!!!
Tree Tomato has no E at the end but yes, this is the plant they call Tree Tomato but it s the best version of it I have ever grown. I think most types are far too acid. This one is sweet.
Looks almost the same as tomate de arbol here in Ecuador, you have to make some juice or mix it with milk about 2 or 3 per litter and a lot of sugar
The mystery fruit I used to eat as a kid. The locals called it a ketchup berry.
Never heard that one before. Wish I could make a decent ketchup from it. It is okay fresh but I don't like it cooked.
For us we called it spanish tomato
Bill do think they would do well in Hammond, La. Zone 8b? Thanks Bob.
or 8b in Florida big bend?
I'd say the plant is perfect in zones 11 & 10. It was possible in zone 9 where I lived in CA. In the right micro climate spot with a bit of cold protection it might get by in 8 B. It would be worth a try. I wouldn't be surprised if someone has grown the plant there.
Another tip, boil them with cinnamon and them remove the skin and make some tm juice with it
Truth be told, I have tried cooking this fruit in several different ways and find I can only enjoy the flavor when raw. Flavors either from the skins or the seeds enter the mix when cooked and I feel they destroy the delicate flavor. This wasn't true with the original acidic varieties of this fruit but the new sweet types are best raw.
Good Video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Hi Mr Bill I was watching your tree tomatoe video from New Zealand,will they grow in southern Ms.and do you have any seeds?
The plants don't tolerate much in the line of freezing weather. They would get by in Fremont, CA USDA zone 9B. Biloxi is rated 9A, there is a chance the plant my grow for you. Seeds can be found on my website. www.greengardenservice.net
I checked your website and didn't see seeds. Do you still have them?
You are correct. I no longer have the seeds at this point. I was just checking on my mother plants yesterday. Perhaps later in summer I will have the seed again.
Mine is flowering but not fruiting, they’re falling and some are drying. Any solution please?
If the plant is in good health otherwise then it possible pollination is lacking. This could be due to temperature range or lack of wind where the plant is placed. If it is indoors you need to put a fan on it occasional or move pollen yourself.
Hi Bill. Do you happen to know the name of that variety? I live in Europe and I know you don't ship outside of the US, so knowing the name might help me get the seeds somehow.
It didn't come to me with a name. The Hawaiian Tropical Fruit growers only described it as a new variety from New Zealand.
Hi Bill, if you were planting a row of tamarillos, how much space between plants would you allow?
And also how much space between pineapples?
6 foot. Pineapple spaced 12" appart in triangulated triple rows. They hold each other up this way.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thank you mate, planting today 👍
@@BuenavistaNZ Aloha
@@GreenGardenGuy1 thanks man much appreciated. I ended up repotting a bunch of sabara seedlings and planting 8 avocados trees, by the time I finished digging those holes I was wrecked. Will have to do the pineapples next weekend 😅
Where can I purchase seeds for the variety in your Video?
The tree tomato listed on my website is the one in the video. www.greengardenservice.net
I've got some producing from seed I saved from a fruit Musa Marvin gave me when I did the banana farm tour. They aren't bad eaten out of hand and very good just split in half and sprinkled with brown sugar. I tried some in a kuchen (German custard pie) and they were tart, kind of like rhubarb. My neighbor cooked them up in an apple cobbler and that was excellent. The seeds are a bit larger and tougher than a tomato so that has to be taken into account.
I've got some new forest tamarillo I just planted but the fruit is supposed to be yellow. No idea what variety is actually is.
I also have some dwarf tamarillo which has tiny yellow fruit and very tiny seeds. The fruit is inedible though as the few I've tried were worse than biting into a raw acorn.
When your nursery open? I'd like to give your variety a try.
I have grown both of the types you describe and neither were very impressive from my point of view. I thought I was done with Tamarillos in this life until I grew this one. I wouldn't say it is the perfect Tamarillo but it is the best one to date. The plant still has head space for improvement but the seeds were about the same as tomato, the sugar higher than most tomatoes and almost sub acid. Any less acidity and it wouldn't have tasted right.
Hi, will this take in SoCal?
Yes. I grew them in the Bay Area
GreenGardenGuy1 nice!! Thank you
Also, have you had the little dwarf tamarillos? They are very small and yellow.
Yes, but I didn't find they grew well in California. I am not sure what they would do in Hawaii. Finding this fruit was almost by accident. I had given up on Tamarillo because the fruit was acid and they were pest prone in CA. I just happened to be at a Hawaii Tropical Fruit Growers seed exchange when a guy presented me with this fruit claiming it was the best tamarillo to date. He was right and so I am back on the tamarillo train.
I came hunting for this tree tomato video when i was checking for a Asian (Nepali) tree tomato pickle recipe. Checked in few store in Chicago. Couldn't find. What should i search for ?
If you are asking me for the recipe or how to find it I have no idea. Probably try using the original Nepali name for the food.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 i was hunting for the tomato in stores.
@@111humtum There used to be a California growers of exotic produce that distributed these but the price was very high. It appears to be a vegetable that requires a spot in the home garden.
Loving your channel. By chance do you have any plants you would be willing to ship back to the states?
You must mean back to the Mainland, Hawaii is one of the states! Thanks for the feed back on the channel. I can ship back to the Mainland if you live in the 46 lucky states. If you live in CA, AZ, TX or LA I can't ship there. Because inspection is a 50 mile round trip the order has to be large enough to make it worth while. Use my email for more information. greengardenservice@yahoo.com
@@GreenGardenGuy1 Gotcha Bill I live in L.A. AKA lower Alabama. I visited your web page this morning. You should include a link in your video description. Plan to order some plants from you in February or March. This Tamarillo and your large passion fruit are on the top of my list. But man you are living in paradise 😊😊 you damn sure did something right in your life!!
I just follow my nose in life and don't pay much attention to other peoples opinions about what is right here. Hence my life is mine to live and I enjoy myself. Mostly our lives are the product of our beliefs and intent. I have very few beliefs and my intent is to leave the world a better place than I found it, if possible.
Sometimes I do put the link in, sometimes I forget. I have a lot on my mind most of the time. I just added it to the video because of the reminder. I like the link for seed sales, I don't like it for plants because mostly I intend to sell the plants on the Island and do not like shipping them. This causes internal conflict while posting and showing plants in the video. I fully understand why you would want me to include the link though. Aloha, Bill
@@GreenGardenGuy1 bill I would like to buy some cuttings of your tamarillo trees. Do you sell them?
@@conniejones8588 I can. On occasion I have propagated them with cuttings. Right now all them in the nursery are seedling.
Bill,
Do you have a link or email address so I can purchase a couple of these and have them ship to Texas?
Texas will not allow me to ship seed for the plant but not the fruit or the plant. If you want seed it is listed at www.greengardenservice.net
Hi Bill, is it possible i can get seeds from you. With same and other varieties?.
my seeds are located at the website. www.greengardenservice.net At the moment I am out of seed for this tree tomato for about a month. The see will come back as the new crop ripens.
Do you have them for sale?
I have one plant in the nursery or I have seeds.
How do I go about buying a plant or some of these seeds......
If you live in Hawaii you can walk into my nursery anytime the gate is open and buy plants from the table. If you live in the Mainland you can order seeds from my website. www.greengardenservice.net
Here you are. I am looking for over and over how to have a Tree Tomato aka Tamarillo just like in your video, would you please tell me how to I order tree or seed from you. Thank you.
Sure. You can order these seeds off of my website. www.greengardenservice.net The seeds are under the Products for Sale button on the left margin. Aloha
Just an FYI, the SSL certificate on your site is expired or something.
I just returned from my website www.greengardenservice.net
Everything is normal there and the sight functioning. No idea what you might be referring to.
@@GreenGardenGuy1 using chrome I got a security warning and it shows "Not secure" on the top left by the URL. After I click the button to do it anyway, everything works just fine, but to anyone coming to the site for the first time, it's not going to look legit.
@@huzbum This message probably occurs because my greengardenservice address actually rides inside Fremontica.net. All it is telling you is do not to use your credit card directly on the sight. When you cash out you are transferred to paypal and their sight is secure. I wish google would not do this but there is nothing I can do to control what their AI does. Aloha
Do you have seeds available?
Yes. They are listed at www.greengardenservice.net
where is the wed site link?
www.greengardenservice.net
Seeds for this variety?
www.greengardenservice.net
When will you have fresh seeds ?, also when you do can you send me a PayPal invoice instead. I can’t seem to go into your website.
The website is open to the public so I am confused as to why you aren't able to use the same means everyone else uses. Anyway, late summer I should have this type back again. Right now I have a Hawaiian pure orange form and the classic red.
How long will they live I cant find it online lol
The life span will depend on your climate, care and pest issues. The plants were 7 years old in California before I chopped them down because of mites. Here we do not have mites and the plants have remained healthy for the past 4 years. I doubt it is worth pushing them past 5 to 7 years. They get weak with old age.
Okay thanks for the info I live in Ontario Canada i will be bring them in doors if I will grow it
@@mauricekeith2920 Yes, you will have to. They do not survive sub freezing weather. It takes about 18 months of good weather to get them to fruit. California, Florida and Hawaii are they only places where they are hardy in the garden.
how does it work for a burger tomato?
I prefer to use my cherry tomatoes but it would work. It has a tough skin so you either scoop it out, peel it or cook it and run it through a food mill.
You could actually graft actual tomato plants to the rootstock of the tamarillo tree I guess
It is possible since they are in the same family. I am not sure what the advantage would be. I think disease tolerance between tomato and tamarillo are similar.
Brasil !!!
Aloha from Hawaii.
Would love to get that variety you have. For whatever reason, here in the Bay Area I have trouble getting mine to grow. It looks good, just sort of sits there though. Little growth, no flowers yet. Been in the ground since spring, about 3 feet tall. Any advice?
You can find the seeds for this plant on my website at www.greengardenservice.net
I figure you have been in the ground for about 6 to 7 months. Tamarillo usually take 18 to 24 months before they fruit. Most are around 6 feet when they start to flower. You are about 1/2 way there in size and about 1/3 of the way there in time line. The plants do not like hot dry weather. Mulch and keep the roots moist. They also get aphids in CA so watch for this. The aphids spread virus that weaken the plants and make them less productive.
Can i trade seeds with you, for the new sweet variety?
the website link isnt working for me.
If you have something that I am interested in I may consider a trade. You would have to produce a list of your seeds for me to peruse first. my website address is good. If you can't get the link to work just type the address into google. I just checked it and it works fine. www.greengardenservice.net
it's a fruit to its own class great line bill that can describe some of the politicians but we won't get into that we will we, just curious would that be good off the tree with garlic salt sprinkled over as you eat it with a spoon this is how I assault my garden and Jill knows that I won't come out for a while when walking over to the garden with garlic salt in hand. have a good day Professor say hello to Ellen.
Up to the point of this video eating the fruit fresh from the plant was the only way I'd consumed it I actually think that is the best way to eat it. I made a batch of Tamarillo, Pineapple and Jalapeno salsa. It was okay but I prefer tomatoes. I made another batch of Tamarillo spaghetti sauce and it was okay too but still, my sauce tastes better from tomatoes. I have decided fresh is the way to go. The flavor changes when it is cooked.
Make fresh juice dilute with water
Sorry but that sounds awful! Why dilute it?
@@GreenGardenGuy1 I really enjoyed your video. This plant is so prolific in it's fruiting, it's just another way to enjoy it. Raw, No Seeds, beautiful color, blend with water, strain, dilute to taste. OMG, I encourage you to try it. I'm on the big island
@@GreenGardenGuy1 oh yeah, Rind not included in Juice
@@cherylgriffith2682 Okay, different strokes for different folks. I've grown this fruit for decades and never really thought much of it's quality. The old acid forms were okay peeled, seeded and used in salsa. I've tried several ways to eat this sweeter form of the fruit and found fresh out of the hand was the only way I could do it. The purple juice around the seeds in this type does have a very nice grape juice taste. It gets lost as soon as it is mixed with the pulp and there isn't enough to collect on it's own. I find the seeds and the skin to have an off flavor.
@@cherylgriffith2682 That would help. The rind and seeds leave much to be desired. I once cooked the skin with the pulp and it was terrible.
You mean acidic. Not acid
You mean acidic. I mean acid. Get a life.