The movie isn't about Marilyn's films. It never was. It is a character study in how childhood trauma overwhelmed and destroyed Marilyn's life. Nothing more. It was adapted from a best selling book that details many of the same scenes. The movie got a 14 minutes standing ovation at the Venice Film festival. The director took existing still photos and film footage and wove a narrative around it. The book did the same thing. The author of the book called the movie brilliant.
@@michaelguest4247 don’t get it wrong right now. the movie is GOOD, it’s filmed wonderfully. it has STUNNING cinematography. however what is this movie based on? marilyn monroe. the story is terrible. ana de armas acted like a baby and even overacted in so many different ways. this movie exploited the story and life of a woman who was already sick of being used and objectified while being alive. i truly believe one of the worst things here is the fact that marilyn monroe has no close family to her, no grandkids and no children who can sue these people who tarnish her name and who use her for financial gains and who use her popularity as “clout” and who make movies objectifying her. how would you like to be imagined in a 3some long after you were dead? if marilyn monroe lived to old age would she still be sexualized as much as she is now? beautiful movie with beautiful shots but disgusting story, should never have been made, or at least create the movie based on a FICTIONAL character and not someone who has lived and has struggled a lot with her image and personal life not going hand in hand if the makes sense.
Oates and Dominic blame Marilyn's suffering on her sexy persona rather than society's inability to believe that a person can be sexy AND deserving of respect and dignity.
It's sad that society just cannot see beyond a person's external appearance. Besides. After all these years this is how men see her. The director needs to be sued.
That’s weird I thought that was exactly the point of the film - to show that society didn’t believe she could be sexy and deserving of dignity and respect…
This! They will use any tactic to paint you as crazy or value less. It’s just sad that these women pay the price for the worlds primitivism when it comes to what it means to be a woman, a full rounded human. Despicable.
The fact that Marilyn was such a smart person. She literally loved reading and self-taught herself a lot. She also really wanted to be a mother but COULDN'T for medical reasons. She helped little girls by saying all girls are pretty, and never put any other women down. She was so talented too :'v
I was infuriated when the writer and others implied it as a feminist film. No you wanted to see a woman tortured for 3 hours. There is nothing feminist or empowering about that.
@@technobrain666 I didn't even think of the prolife agenda til she mentioned! Which just makes me feel more sick over this movie. Marilyn's struggles with fertility in real life in comparison to what the film depicts just further pokes and prods at her issues in such an unsympathetic manner.
@@technobrain666 also i read somewhere that we don't actually know if Marilyn ever had an abortion? it's known that she had a few miscarriages, but nowhere that's said that she for sure had an abortion. i get fiction dramatization etc etc, but this is such a huge thing to just make up, particularly when they more or less centre the entire emotional drive of the movie around it?
In a recent interview with the director Andrew Dominik, he said, “'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' is just a movie about well-dressed whores.” That alone tells me how little respect he has for Marilyn Monroe. This film should have been made by someone who actually did their research about Marilyn and cared enough to portray her in a different light that showed the intelligent and sensitive woman she was.
Considering he admitted that he never watched a single one of her movies, it makes sense that he’s so ill-informed about her and her one-dimensional portrayal
I think this movie still would’ve sucked even if it wasn’t about Marilyn Monroe, or I guess the idea of her, or whatever the hell it was going for, what a mess.
@@kush6846 You're right. There's an overly sadistic tone in this film that it feels like he's doling out his own form of punishment on Marilyn simply for existing. Can't imagine it would have been any better if it were about another female.
God, it's awful that they just heard that her mother was schizophrenic and was in a mental hospital and then they just automatically assumed she was abusive. That's so ableist and disgusting.
Yeah like from what I remember she was a good mother who Marilyn got back in touch with when she was older and who she supported money wise even after death.If anything she was more of a danger to herself than her daughter and that assumption is so awful
@@cheapbongs It's a movie about a real person life. Would you like someone making a 3 hours movie about events that never happened in your life, inventing the fact that your parents beats you and you got rworded ? It's just sick it's not "just a movie"
@@mishadodo4256 its a fictional movie based on a fictional book, are you serious? lmao if you cant interpret meaning from the film effectively thats your fault...may want to stick to watching pixar films
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 I think what he means by letting her rest is let us remember her as we knew her without fiction or falsehoods. Let the memory of her rest as it once was. Don't tarnish her memory.
I read somewhere that the whole thing about Marilyn Monroe going to Mocambo every night for Ella to perform didn't happen. MM was in New York and Ella in Los Angeles at that time.
It is adapted from a bestselling book called Blonde. The author Joyce Carol Oates not only gave her blessing on the script but called the film brilliant.
The director infantilized MM and portrayed her as a hyper-sexualized, dough-eyed wimpy crybaby with daddy issues. Stripped her of any dignity, wits, agency, grace, smarts and spirit. He insists that it's based on fiction and not a biopic, then why go to such lengths to make it look like real events by recreating actual photoshoots, movie scenes and going so far as to film in the actual place where she passed away? Just despicable.
right? like - look at "Spencer" for example. it doesn't try to recreate real life scenes/events - or at the very least, not in a way that makes it integral to the plot - and it's filmed in such a way that it's _obviously_ fictional, an interpretation. we can't control how audiences interpret things sometimes (e.g. i'm sure there must be some that may treat "Spencer" as historical fact, like how others use "The Crown" like a history book, and the director for "Blonde" has been going up and down saying how audiences just dOn'T gET it) but there are times when the author's intentions and idea of a person are _very_ clear in the work.
That’s the point of the film, that’s what the directors vision is with his biopic films. To make her into a spectical, the same way the public/media have done for years
But where did they show she was dumb?? They showed how others saw her. There were scenes where they showed she was smart, well read, knew what she was doing as an actor and stuff
Her acting is GENIUS anyone can see that she is playing the character for COMEDY. And she’s damn good at it too. Girlfriend studied with Lee Strasbourg she did not stay in the film business to play around
This movie reminds me of how the media, producers and movie studios already treated Marilyn when she was alive. You would think that in this modern age where we already know all the hardships Marilyn had to go through for being seen as a dumb sexualised blonde, there would be a movie to demonstrate that in favour of her instead of repeating the same narrative that she’s had for years
@@michaelguest4247 It would succeed if it wasn’t about a real person. Especially since it’s essentially fanfiction with how much of it is inaccurate. I love stories that explore trauma and dark psychological themes but never those attached to real person due the harm it does to their legacy.
There is a bio documentary made by Italians about 10 years ago, which shows better the hardships she had to go through. I remember crying after seeing it, because no one deserves that kind of treatment.
@@lilliethomas3490 but the public already knows that. They could have shown the mistreat through a more empathetic prospective and by taking her side. Not by showing, yet again, how troubled she was and how sexualised she was, that just resulted in another exploitation of her character.
My father who’s in is late 50’s and not especially « woke » or in touch with nowaday’s concerns told us he was so disappointed with this movie. He admired Marylin so much he said the movie had stripped her of any joy she experienced in her life. He said it was extremely sad to watch and like there were never any good things in her life ..
“I don’t think [Marilyn Monroe] was a woman with a lot of female friends.” Um, she had PLENTY of female friends. She got along famously with Jane Russell, Judy Garland, and Ella Fitzgerald to name a few and she allegedly had affairs with women, two of the most famous women being Joan Crawford and Marlene Dietrich. But of course, the director doesn’t know that because he was too busy sexualizing her trauma to do any more homework beyond said trauma. 🙄
I have heard that MM tended to move on from people though. She didn't stay in contact with Jane Russell after their film was completed. I still like to believe they were friends forever, but she seemed to close people off from her life. I think Jack Lemmon had the same experience.
@@dominos6576 in fact it is also a problem that married women in general experienced at the time. When you got married you often ended up making friends with your neighbors, but if you married a man who didn't appreciate your friends, you also risked losing those few friends you had. In summary, the lives of many women were dictated by the decisions of their husbands, so it may be that the presence of her husbands took Marilyn away from deepening her friendships with other women. Then we must remember that she was still a movie star forced to be surrounded by men for work, and maybe, at some point, she did not even feel encouraged to create friendships with other women, as she is not used to it. obviously mine are mainly assumptions
@@ilariaatzei Yeah, that sounds true, but I also think she might have closed people off as a way to protect herself from getting hurt by others. She liked being alone I think. It's all psychological, so I'm not too well read in this area.
Things we could have gotten in a Marilyn Monroe movie: Her childhood in the foster care system Her love of reading, film and acting How she hide her high intelligence with her "dumb blonde" persona being a complete act How her fame started when a magazine released nudes of her without her consent, how she overcame it and made the best out of the situation given the time period she was in How she fought for equal pay in the entertainment industry Her fight for black artists like her FRIEND Ella Fitzgerald The time she shared her dress with black actress Dorothy Dandridge, who was also her friend Her struggles with endometriosis and infertility when she really wanted children Her battles with metal illness (that isn't glorified or fetishized) Her spiritual beliefs Her internal battle with sex and the possibility of her being asexual And how she even planned to open her own equal pay movie studio What we got in this "Marilyn Monroe" movie: Pro life propaganda The continued exploitation and objectification of a real life woman who always deserved better
I'd love a Marilyn movie with a Fleabag style POV where we're let into how witty and complex she was, contrasted to Joe men and the rest of the world view her. It would be great because it would perfectly signify how all these biopics tried to define and dissect her but no one really cares to know the true her and we may never will
She did open her own production company which provided her with leverage to strike a deal with 20th Century Fox ! She produced Bus Stop with it which was critically acclaimed
They can’t let her rest. She died at a young age and you know how Hollyweird acts towards young women. They want to immortalize her and exploit her for as long as they can
People often forget that the reason why they keep using her image is because it makes money. If they couldn't make money from it, Marilyn would have died in 1962.
That's perfectly what I'm thinking. How is this movie criticizing the sexualization of MM, when the movie itself IS sexualizing her? We don't see a scene of her as a real, individual human being in the whole film, just her persona and her relationship with men/how men saw her
I think the Marilyn estate should sue tbh. They frame these fictional traumas as fact, and romanticise them. It's one of the most vile depictions of imaginary trauma I have ever seen in a film, nevermind in a 2022 film. They portrayed Marilyn as a fragile, crazy but SO SO sexual woman. I understand a lot of the choices here are artistic, however saying that they missed the mark is an understatement. We have spent all these years learning about the abuse that women have been subject to at the hands of men for years. To have a man produce such a tone deaf collection of moving images (not even calling it a film anymore), is just unbelievable. I tried so hard with this movie but im still reeling over it. Poor Norma, poor Marilyn and her poor family. Being slandered in this way. I wish I could personally apologise for this mess. **edit** Saying her estate should sue was just the only thing I could think to say at the time as I was just word vomiting my own feelings on the movie. Thanks so much!
I was shock seeing how bas this movie is. It is objectifying sexual fantasy of victimized woman. You'll think people can do better in 2022... It looked more like start of the porn that real movie. Also it is terrible in portraying mental illness. It is bad and harmful in so many ways...
Why would the Marilyn estate sue this when they are the one's who have the authority to permit people to produce this filth, and they make a lot of money from her image too.
Her estate said they liked the film so clearly they don’t have an issue with it and they do not care for her which is sad. Honestly if they cared, they would have sued Joyce Carol Oates for the Blonde book.
Honestly I don't get the criticism of this movie. Apart from nudity maybe. Noone said its based on facts. Its a work of fiction. It didn't demean her but infact showed her raw disturbing psyche. I think people are having a hard time digesting to realise how troubled and vulnerable she was.
The director is probably one of those creeps who hates Marilyn but simultaneously wants to sleep with her, and gets off on all the abuse. Literally had to switch it off half way
There is an autobiography by Marilyn Monroe herself, which she wrote in the mid 50s called "My Story", and in it, she recounts her childhood and her struggle to fame in great detail. It shocks me to think no one involved in this movie even tried to read that book, as everything in this movie is false- according to Marilyn herself. Just read "My Story" by MM, and you will see how intelligent, independent, and complicated of a person she ways- how she was proud of doing "Gentlemen Prefer Blonds", and how she was so smart in her ways that she studied hard and worked hard to get to where she was, and how she never wanted to be viewed as a victim herself. She even mentions the Aunt character, depicted in the movie as cruelly abandoning her, had no other choice as she was simply broke, and even to later in her life she tried everything to take care of MM, and in reverse how MM later took care of her with great admiration. Everything in this movie is completely fiction, and incredibly disrespectful to Marilyn, especially when she herself WROTE a detailed autobiography of what was going through her head and which events happened- and all was simply ignored so an ignorant male director could use her life as a method to further tarnish her legacy and steal her own narrative from her. This movie is absolutely one of the most dumbest and disgusting attempt on an individual and continues on the horrible abuse media put on her.
It's tradegy porn. Completely devoid of any charm, spirit, and resilience that marilyn had. One scene that stood out to me (although not the worst) was the scene with her meeting Joe dimaggio's family. The ditzy dialogue and the lack of ppl skills they gave her showed how little they knew about Marilyn and how committed they were to depicting her as an airhead. She was known to be helpful around the house and completely friendly with the women she lived with.
Imagine an idiotic viewer that completely misses the point of your film. Imagine the entire world being so retarded that they are enraged because you show them the ugly thuth, and they claim that "since you didn't sugarcoat the violence, it means you support violence". I mean, imagine that. Imagine how much of a joke is modern society. Welp, at least it's better than Marilyn's time.
@Gretchen kushner the entire abortion plotline is fake. In real life, Norma had trouble conceiving, and it was a struggle for her because she wanted to be a mother. The sexual assault plotlines are also made up; as the video said, there is no evidence that her boss at the studio or JFK ever assaulted her. The amount of sex and nudity is fake - in real life she was described as 'prudish' The idea that she had no female friends, or friends in general, is made up, since she was famously friends with many women in the film and music industry The idea that the Marilyn persona was forced onto her is made up, since she purposely kept her stage persona separate from her real personality Her abusive mother is made up, and the idea that her life was endless tragedy and that it was her own fault for being "too sexy" is fake
@@gretchenkushner6449 her alter ego (Marilyn Monroe) being enforced onto her when she made it herself, john f Kennedy having s3x with her, her mother trying to murder Marilyn
lol guys I'm cringing my ass off at all those comments. "Victim blaming" hahaha. Come on, keep it going, what else did this evil film do wrong? Ableist, sexist, ageist.. Racist, was it racist? Fatphobic, homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic, kennedophobic...
If this movie was in the hands of another director, someone who cared. It could have been an inspirational and empowering movie about Marilyn. It could have also shown the other side of her we don’t see, away from the stereotypes. The smart and clever woman who was misunderstood.
Should have been an inspirational and empowering movie about Marilyn, but nope... we can't have that, can we? The "it's her fault" message in the movie is disgusting, it's just outright despicable.. Yuck! What's wrong with these people? No really... What's wrong with these people?
I agree 100% I feel like this movie could’ve been so much better if it was written and directed by a woman a female director would’ve done sooo much for this movie
@@vokkagirl i think ana could've played that marilyn, she's been amazing in everything i've ever seen her in (even when she's playing a tiny role, or starring in a godawful movie), but i also agree that she probably did blonde for the oscar bait. though honestly who can blame her, she's probably desperate to break out of the sidekick/love interest typecasting rut she's been in for most of her career and (wrongly) thought that blonde was going to be the movie to do that for her
the fact she wanted to have kids and had miscarriages irl because her endometriosis but in the movie the depicted her having an abortion because of ableist vaules is sooooo DISGUSTING ugh
I think what emily ratajowski said on her tiktok was the best take on this. I’m paraphrasing here, but she talks about how fetishised female pain and tragedy is. I think this movie takes it to another level. Creating new trauma and travesty for the sake of entertainment for someone who famously struggled with these things is another level of disgusting. It’s like they get off on her pain, even after she died. I hate what people did to her legacy.
sorry but emily whateverthefuckherlastnameis' response to the adam levine drama and tolerating the fact that mistresses knowing fully well the cheater is married yet they stilled egged him on and said they don't deserve the guilt just shows how tone deaf she is and doesn't know that it takes two to tango
Cannot believe how one-dimensional they made her in this. You're telling me all she did was cry and drown in misery and that's all there was to her life? No happy moments whatsoever? Please. She was an extremely talented, smart, funny and witty woman. The absolute nerve they had to portray her as only a sad, naive and honestly? Plain dumb woman.
@@leleprtk no fucking way. Just trash trash trash. I even wish I didn't watch this damn movie but thankfully 😂 it was a pirate site and a watchalong with a TH-camr who already did not rate the director
They probably portrayed her that way because it means they'd have to invest very little effort into it. It takes time and money to research and portray a complicated and multi-dimensional person. Obviously, they felt she wasn't worth it and they passed off this shoddy wreck; an insult to MM and a disgraceful product of the arts.
@@Magicalnora did y’all noticed they turned her death scene into one of her most iconic photoshoots? I said wtf a lot during this movie but the end was wtf wtf wtf wtf. Reunited with daddy’s photograph too.
Thankyou for making this. I thought I might like the movie because the aesthetics and costumes looked appealing, but as a Marilyn Monroe fan, I was disgusted by how they portrayed her 😥😥 She was made into a total joke.
Even worse when she was quoted in an interview saying “Please don’t make me a joke.” It’s something she fought against for so long and we still cannot respect her most basic wishes
The thing I hate most might be that Monroe didn't even enjoy sex, for her it was just kinda there and something she happened to be good at. She wrote extensively that she wasn't very fond of it. How the hell did they ignore that.
Yeah, I had to turn my head in disbelief at that scene. I couldn't believe it, and viewing the instruments going inside from the inside was not necessary at all.
@@trinaq It genuinely seems that it was only there to further the pro life narrative that the fetus is alive and conscious and suffering during the procedure. Couple that with the movie having the child blame Marilyn, yep that's 100% pro life propaganda.
I really feel like it should be illegal to make a movie about a real life person’s life but not make it a biography. It’s like people don’t care about ruining the reputation of someone once they’re dead. This goes not just for well-know people from the 20th century, but all throughout history.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
We live in a world where people wanna capitalize on someone's memory rather than respect their career and acknowledge what they went through when they built that career. In other words, we want to romanticize and fetishize women's trauma instead of admitting that they are legitimate human beings outside of their persona, in this case, Marilyn Monroe's "dumb, sexy blonde" persona
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Dead people can't feel anything, but all she feels now is eternal bliss and happiness? It's called preserving her *actual* legacy. Sounds like you're glorifying death. Bruh you weird fr
Hearing the description of this movie and comparing it to Marilyn's own account of her life in her unfinished autobiography "My Story" is wild. Especially in regards to her account of her mother. The drowning scene is based on Gladys REMOVING HERSELF FROM THE SITUATION when Norma Jeane asked the name of her father. And while it can hurt children whenever their parents shut down on them, it's a far cry from trying to murder them. Monroe emphasizes her mother's love towards her children and what she was willing to sacrifice, telling a story of Gladys traveling hours to see the children of her first marriage after their father kidnapped them only to ultimately give up custody when she realized that they would be much happier living with him. Monroe also describes her mother's mental breakdown that landed her in a mental hospital, but it was only destructive towards herself, rather than being any sort of violent lashing out. It is absolutely sickening to see her be demonized because of the stigma around mental illness when she sounds like she was a decent person who genuinely loved her daughter.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 do you know how many people who can relate to her-- who have gone through similar traumatic experiences? Even if it wasnʻt about Marilyn, thereʻs blatant disgust towards her, a person, who was not only put in foster care, but someone who was a mentally ill AND woman in the 50ʻs. Thereʻs sexual violence too, do you know how tone deaf this is? This isnʻt just hurting an image of a deceased person, this furthers the message of "woman did something bad, so she must be punished." Itʻs sadistic, and itʻs sad. I think you need to reevaluate what youʻre saying here.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 you must be a pro life supporter ???..floating fetus talking fetus is ridiculous and insulting to all woman ...this is propaganda film at its worst.
@@Internet-Alias this is misrepresenting her and her story and her pain ...do the film with a different character ..even though it would still be a sick piece of trash ...at least it would not be a money grab with her image !!!
What’s the sad part of Marilyn’s life? Her legacy after her death. It’s more sad to see people basically treat her like a circus attraction with a lot of conspiracy theories and gossip for audiences to paid and see!
It all makes her life more tragic than what it already was. Isn't that sad? All she wanted was to be loved and be wonderful at what she did. Respect isn't a lot to ask for.
I would say her ending up in orphanage, and multiple fister families can be deemed as sad part of her life. In one of her bios, It is said hiw she never threw away stale bread, because she was alwas given it while in fister care, and how she cried tears of joy when she was finally able to afford fresh bread. The life of Norma Jeane is sad. Why people don't want to see it, is bonkers to me. She was a women who desperately wanted a family, yet couldn't find a man who respected her and treated her as equal. She wanted to be a mother, yet she couldn't keep her pregnancy. She was ambitious acrress, who wanted to do high drama yet was always casted as a dumb blonde or movie bombshell. She was ver inteligent and shrewd women yet everyone percieved her ti be dumb and wanted her to behave that way. Why people want to make her into "girlboss" icon is beyond me.
@@mewtwo6849 stripping her of all her accomplishments and not only focusing, but also amplifying the trauma she faced is pure misogyny. they would never do that to a man. and yes, marilyn was a girlboss. marilyn herself didnt consider herself a victim.. but if you want to wallow in trauma and pain have at it.
@@mewtwo6849 if you read more about her than just the trauma, you will know she’s more than that. She openly talks about her trauma, talks about the wolves in Hollywood, fights with the studio heads, opening a film production company, always tried to improve her acting, married Arthur Miller even he’s in danger of getting blacklist, etc. There’s so many things that her biopic can show instead of just that (gossips and conspiracy theories).
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
I just think it’s hilarious in a shitty way that both Oates and Dominic are all like “sHe WaS a SeXuAL wOmAn WhO iS ReSpOnSiBLe FoR heR oWn dOwnFaLL” and yet both of them have to consistently make shit up in their works to the point that it’s more fictional than anything just to “prove” their point 🙄
i was hoping it wouldn't be terrible before watching but sadly its exactly that. complete exploitation and it objectifies and dehumanizes marilyn and removes her agency all in the name of "art". just an awful movie can't believe how it got made. great review!!
The movie is about how Marilyn's childhood trauma overwhelmed and destroyed her life. That's all. In that respect it is brilliant. Perhaps if you opened your mind and looked at the movie for what it is was instead of what you believed it should be you would have understood the movie better. It is adapted from a bestselling book that has many of the same scenes in the book. It was a lauded and celebrated book. The author vetted the film and calls it brilliant.
@@michaelguest4247 The book was also highly ficticious and showed no real respect for Norma's struggles, so having said author applaud the movie isn't that much of a high praise.
@Michael Guest Okay and? What about it? Are we not allowed to say that the movie is shit and insensitive? Because it is just that, and it seems the books is as well
Lots of shockingly terrible movies have a good response at festivals. Peer pressure, maybe heat of the moment. Maybe a bias that the film must be good if it was chosen for a festival, better not be the one person who didn't 'get' it.
They would have set a better example if they had walked out and condemned this instead. It is only something those involved can appreciate because it would help them understand where they need to improve.
(tw) I finished reading Blonde about a month ago. I think people are kind of off base singling out the director. He was working from a female author's novel. If anything he delivers a diluted version of what she wrote. I hope that the novel gets re-examined in the wake of the film, because I found it unsettling but mostly saw praise for it online before the film came out. Joyce Carol Oates came across as wanting to heap as much humiliation and pain on Marilyn as possible, even sexualizing her as a newborn when she has a man describe her baby vagina as a silk purse. She kept stressing that Marilyn smelled bad sometimes, and most other female characters too. I felt like the whole novel was Joyce Carol Oates venting her internalized misogyny.
Yeah, Joyce Carol Oates is one of those salty women who really fulfills the unfortunate "ugly jealous feminist" (second wave lol) stereotype. Isn't she also a TERF? yuck
Also I'm so tired of seeing sexy women crying in the nude, it's so weird and fetishy. Makes me so uncomfortable because I see myself in these women, I'm large chested and have a few traits that fit the beauty standard. Sometimes it almost feels like I'm being told I'll be sexy if I'm experiencing trauma while nude and that's a horrible thing. Even now if im really upset about something crying has started to feel sexual because of my internalized male gaze. Why the heck are we sexualizing severe trauma and saying it's attractive. Disgusting and I'm tired of it.
I feel for you. What was that quote by Margaret Atwood about being your own voyeur? It really can be hard sometimes to disconnect outside influences from your own perception of yourself. For me personally there is nothing better than to spend time disconnected from the discourse on social media and certain movies and tv series, alone with myself, just experiencing everyday life. I am at a point now luckily where I know what I want to consume and what is not good for my mental health. Wishing you all the best
The amount of men I've encountered who have expressed that women crying and disheveled are hot and don't understand why we (women) are disturbed by this...
I’m so sorry, that’s heartbreaking. I don’t know what to say other than that you’re not alone and I understand. I really do. I think we have to give weight to our own view, they’ll see us how they want but in doing so they’re only revealing their own perverse character. And we see that, we see how disgusting they are. And we also see our own dignity and each other’s. Our dignity exists independently from men’s delusions, they can project their sick fantasies onto us all they like but it doesn’t make them true. That’s what I tell myself. I don’t want to live my life from the viewpoint of someone like that, and as invasive and loud as they might be we don’t have to go along with it. We can stick together and live our own way. I have so much respect for you and for how you’ve put this experience into words. Wishing you safety and healing ❤️🩹
This movie was so awful and unbearable to watch. I was kinda mad at myself for trying to get through it. Marilyn was so much more than her sex appeal, trauma and body. Yes there was pain in her life, but there was so much light and power in her too, it's still why so many women revere her till this day. the parts that had me fuming were the several traumatic abortions and miscarriage in the film being framed in a prolife way. And then giving her DID all coz she said she didn't feel like Marilyn was the real her. Like make it make sense!?! I hope one day the world either let's this woman rest or take care and apply empathy in how they tell her story.
That was the point though - the film made it a point to show that she was more than those things and assuming that was everything was the problem… interesting people don’t see that
@Bfndlsl Cbdns sweetie, have you even seen the video? Or the movie? Seems like you have hard time understanding things, sad and crule doesn't equal deep
You know where the daddy/mommy issues comes from when you see the writer of that trash mention Freud as a sign for being smart and being taken seriously.
I felt dirty watching this movie cause it looked like a "sexy depression" - male fantasy, not a story. Marilyn used like and object here and it feels awful. It is fanfiction, but brought to screen and glorified
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
Milton greene’s wife- who knew Marilyn personally- said she had a wonderful time in life. Really, she wanted to make that clear in an interview she had in her eighties. She is quoted as saying, “ Marilyn wasn’t a victim- she had a blast and a hell of a good time.”
Dominique was asked by someone "what do you think about Marilyn Monroe?" And gave the most under-researched, sexist, misogynistic, selfish, self-insert opinion of her and thought it was so good he based his movie on that alone. This movie says more about HIS character then anything to do with Marilyn. He made a caricature of Marilyn from his opinion. The worst thing is, lots of people will take it as the truth instead of digging deeper or questioning his motives 🤦♀️
There was a filmmaker who made a movie about an actress and it was quite similar. The male gaze will have you believe that witnessing trauma is how you interact with trauma on screen.
@@dominos6576 Hi Domino! The “male gaze” is quite often used to characterize the sort of male directing that often frames women more as sexual objects, or frames their achievements as connected A: to male characters, B: as a result of sexual exploits, or C: as a result of trauma that a male character must help her overcome. Think Michael Bay’s Transformers as an extreme example. The male gaze within this movie frames Marilyn’s achievements as intertwined with sex, as opposed to real-life examples, like her amazing work ethic and determination to make something of herself. Hope this helps! Edit: this isn’t to say that all male directors frame women this way, but it is a trend within male-directed media. Think how Patty Jenkins frames the Amazons in Wonder Woman as strong, interesting warriors with real and practical armor as opposed to Whedon’s framing within Justice League, where their armor is more sexual than useful.
i was FURIOUS when i heard about the talking fetus scene. how disgusting to insert a blatantly anti-choice scene like that, especially since it's so dishonest and fake since marilyn desperately wanted kids and couldn't have them in real life
Anti-choice is just a disgusting worldview to have, period, but that's largely because of how blatantly manipulative it always is. It's obvious enough that someone doesn't care about women when they promote such foul propaganda, but here is NOT the place to do that. How utterly repulsive and childish. Anti-choicers will truly never see the light it seems.
Tbh I don't think pro-life propaganda is bad, there's so many pro-choice propaganda too in media. They disrespected Marilyn's memory and the movie is poorly executed and this is the problem ig
people are forgetting that Marylin had an IQ of 160, she was an insanely intelligent woman but always depicted as the dumb blonde. she did have a hard life, but this movie romanticises every little detail
There is no factual evidence that Marilyn ever had her IQ tested. 160 would put her at the same level as Steven Hawking and Linus Pauling. Only one in 30k people have an IQ score that high. Not saying that it is impossible, but there is no use in throwing around unlikely claims like these without any sort of proof.
I love Marilyn to death and wish the film had shed light on her avid intellectualism, I 100% agree with that! But there isn’t any evidence that she had a 160+ IQ. There is no record of her having ever taken an IQ test. Her favorite book was The Brothers Karamazov (a highly sophisticated piece of Russian literature, for those who may not know) so she was 100% extremely bright… but this particular IQ score is very arbitrary. IQ tests were not even available for adults until 1955 when she was almost 30.
@@somesweetdreamm Yeah, that is so true. No evidence of IQ test exist for MM, and I don't think it's an accurate measurement of intelligence anyway. She was obviously intelligent, so that's enough.
Honestly? If the director wanted to create a punishment and rescue fantasy so bad with so much fictionalized sex, then he should have just made regular porn without dragging a historical figure through the mud. Edit: spelling
The nude scenes (all of them) were unnecessary and I believe it was done with the intention to exploit Marilyn's legacy as well as the actress playing her. It's true Marilyn lived a difficult life but instead of showing her as a victim of circumstance she should have been shown as a resilient ,smart, witty she was. She had a lot of highs and lows in her career but only focussing on her personal relationship with men who were abusive is making her out to be some helpless damsel who needed rescuing
It also kinda feels like Hollywood doubling down and showing Ana de Armas her place, after she went for more action oriented roles that didn't even need her to be sexy. Watching her in this fealt like some studio executives yelling: "You're supposed to show us your tits!" at her.
Couldn't agree more with the nudity. That one scene where her 1st husband (forget his name) came marching into the home after buying her nudes off those guys and she's on the floor with no top, just white underwear (almost like she's wearing just a diaper like a baby) and she keeps calling him daddy in that scene, ugh... just no
Thing is, Ana has a history of being in movies where she is an object for the male gaze (THE PURPLE ADV SCENE in Blade Runner still makes me fucking GAG) and I wouldn't be surprised had they told me she was cast because of this and not just the resemblance. She's just falling in the same place Marilyn was - an object to mistreat because you like the way it cries. I hope she can get better roles
@@giuliad223 Ana has had a LONG and successful career before Hollywood and English language media. saying she has a history of being in movies where she is the object of male gaze or whatever is totally ignoring the work she has done before these Hollywood movies. She was already a household name in Spain and Spanish language TV before you knew about her and it isn’t fair to reduce her to only these roles whatever you mean by that. It is also really insulting to her intelligence, talent, and hard hard work. She has the right to chose the work she does and be proud of it without people shaming her for it. People should be talking about the fact that she learned to speak English very well in a very short amount of time we’ll into adulthood. People should be talking about her talent.
@@xxo5294 I'm sorry, you're right. What I meant to say was that Hollywood specifically is sexualizing her so much in my opinion. Which is extra disrespectful considering she's, like you said, already an important name in her country.
I’d like to make a movie about all the worst parts of Andrew Dominick’s life. Then I’ll add in some more bad parts just because I can. I won’t bother to clarify it isn’t true. And I’ll call it art. But really. He is such a creep. Marilyn has always been misunderstood by those too shallow to actually get to know her.
Honestly, the book shouldn't even have been written. Writing a fictional novel about a _real person's life_ is really irresponsible imo, and even more so for someone like Norma Jean whose image has been exploited decades after her death. The movie is just straight up torture p*rn and while some of the cinematography is gorgeous, it's not enough to save this boring train wreck of a film.
@@eliminator173 nah. I don't intend to buy it. Why would I buy a book if I intend to burn it? Simpler to not give the author any money by not buying it in the first place.
Blonde humiliates Marilyn in every way possible, it's supposed to be "human" but instead de-humanizes her to sell her suffering. Is terribly gross and it shouldn't exist
The more I hear about this movie I'm disgusted. How could no one have the foresight to leave the poor woman alone? Why do they keep tainting her memory even in death?! It is honestly appalling. Thank you for shedding more light on the nature of this movie, I will be sharing this video with my friends so that they don't watch it either
I wanted to see more of her childhood moving from foster home to foster home.. I want to know her as a human and her background not her being objectified
“The relationship is purely sexual, but portrayed as liberating for Marilyn because it’s her only consensual scene-“ Holy shit, could they have handled these serious topics any worse? The whole “healing through sex” trope is _such_ a shallow, self-serving interpretation of trauma. It’s _not_ something you can fetishise. Plus, the idea that a woman SA survivor needs to be “liberated” (?) by men is so tone deaf that it actually hurts. And can we talk about how weird it is to write this shit about real people? Turning everybody into an abuser and adding graphic content that never happened for ✨ drama ✨ is incredibly disrespectful to say the least.
@@army4chair345 omg that was literally the first thing that came to mind 😭 Also, there’s a huge difference between a fanfic that was probably written by a teenager and a full-on Hollywood movie. The entire production team should have known better, they have 0 excuses with all the resources at their disposal.
So we got ableism, misogyny, anti choice propaganda, objectification, fetishization, victim blaming and other generalized exploitation in one movie? Do the filmmakers not know that this shit isn't tolerated in 2022, especially with a person who isn't here to defend herself? Please, please let her rest in PEACE.
This must be the worst year for the icon Marylin. See her beautiful dress throw on someone else and now this movie. Forgetting all the hard hard work she had put into becoming perfection
@@casuallym3 She was also infertile in real life. She, literally, could not even GET pregnant, let alone have an abortion. She would NOT have been haunted by the ghost of her child, since it was impossible for her child to even be conceived.
I feel like Ana de Armas is equally exploited. She said she's exhausted from a year of method acting and learning about her, amd having to depict her through acting. Nothing but love for Norma and Ana.
@@lulucica1 i understand. I don't know their process though and what was the idea that had De Armas enamored to do the story. I'm sure she admires Monroe and that had gotten her on board. I just don't have anything bad for De Armas since it's being shown a lot of this issue came from writing and the direction of the movie, unless she too had a bigger hand on it than method acting and following script.
I am so happy that you also found this movie to offer gratuitous in sexualizing her! I actually had to walk away from it 45 minutes in, and then come back to it two days later. I also agree that the estate should sue. This reeks of a female author who hates beautiful and successful women, and the director simply being the HS boy who holds a grudge against pretty girls who turned him down.
the 'estate' is a big corporation who are more interested in making money because of her name. they don't care anything about the real life person that Norma Jean/Marilyn was.
I think this movie would have been so much better if it was directed by Emerald Fennell who directed "Promising Young Woman" because MM's story has a lot to do with the themes of "Promising Young Woman", about how many times we see ourselves as innocent for we do not abuse people while allowing others to do it, not helping the victim because we are quick to judge them. How many people saw what she went through and didn't do ANYTHING, because they judge her as promiscuous or even an instigator of her own suffering...
The worst thing about all of the fetishisation surrounding Merilyn is that she wanted to die in piece. Not be sexualised, analysed or anything of the sort. The fact that so many powerful people refuse to respect the most basic of wishes is horrifying.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@sg-yq8pm are you fucking serious? You’re blaming Marilyn for the fictional crap people produce about her? People aren’t entitled to defamation. Marilyn has no one on her side to protect her.
I feel like the fact that this movie is called "blonde" is the first red flag. Queens/Freddie Mercury's Movie is called Bohemian Rhapsody, Elton John's movie is called Rocketman, Elvis Presley's movie is called Elvis. The point is that it's named after their "most recognisable work" or its usually just their last name because it's ment to be a movie about their life. The fact that this was named "blonde" is the first sign of disrespect. If this movie wanted to be a good depiction of Marilyn Monroe's Life it would've just been called Monroe
In fact, screw a documentary, I'd rather watch actual people discuss various aspects of her life and works on TH-cam than this one guy or group of guys 🙄🙄
@@Magicalnora there is a netflix documentary the mystery of marylin monroe: the unheard videotapes. It deals with the issue a lot better and a lot more respectfully
I don't understand why they made this film at all. It was supposed to be about Marilyn because it is based on a book about Marilyn not an original character.
@@dominos6576 The book itself is also fictional. So if they wanted to make a film based on the book they could've easily changed the character's name and make it known that the movie is fictional. Instead, they marketed and filmed it in a way that it comes across as a biopic.
@@sjna3493 People will believe anything in films regardless of how it is marketed. It's just how it is. No one wants to make an effort to know what is true and what isn't. Some do but not many.
They could've marketed it as an elseworld story, like in some weird horrendous other planet this is what happened to who we know as Marilyn. But no, they insist to confuse the public with this film to create outright false stories about her.
They just nitpick the most tragic and intimate moments in Marilyn's life, yeah sure she had a rough life but I'm 100% there were days she was truly happy and felt genuinely loved but I guess those parts of Marilyn's life were not edgy enough to gain profit from it for them
This is what I was thinking! Some people have lives replete with misery, but I'm sure everyone will have at least one single moment of joy or laughter or something that makes them smile in their lifetime.
I don't understand how it's even allowed to imply that actual real people committed crimes without any proof. How do the living relatives of these people even allow it when a dead family member is portrayed as a sexual predator/ rapist without any proof just for the sake of a fictional story? This was easily one of the worst movies I've ever watched, not only diminishing and insulting Marilyn but also dragging through the mud people that actually existed and may have done nothing wrong.
as a survivor of sa i gotta say this film is absolutely disgusting. all the way from the objectification of marylin and fetishizing her trauma to the horrid handling of sexual violence. im so sick of hollywood making what’s essentially emotional torture porn, thanks for reminding me you dont see women as actual people but sexual objects you can exploit andrew! i hope he never works in film again
I literally wanted to know what the fuss was about and watched it recently, and I literally had to physically stop watching when the POV shot of her being chased in the hospital screaming, “no.” came up…I’ve never been more disgusted by filmmaking.
I haven’t seen it but it sounds like the film equivalent of those jerks who bought the burial plots next to her “to sleep with her forever”. This poor woman.
Because of the things I've heard about this movie I am never watching it, ever. Hearing about it more in-depth in this video honestly disgusts me. Also the pro-life agenda for some reason??? The director obviously doesn't give a shit about Marilyn Monroe. They can claim it's not supposed to be a biopic as much as they want but they went to so many lengths to recreate things from her life for it not to be. If it's not a biopic and not based on facts about Marilyn's life then what is the point of this movie? It adds nothing to her story, it was just an excuse to bring the fetishization of Marilyn to life on screen. Ana de Armas honestly looks stunning but everything else about this movie is atrocious.
I also love how most of the male comments on Rotten Tomato's either said they liked it, it was the most honest about her, or that it only focused one one aspect and wasn't a bio....
And the production has the audacity to call this movie feminist? That's the excuse Hollywood uses every single time they fail at portraying a female character. The worst of this entire movie, is this isn't 'Marylin', what they portrayed was a caricature of the director's depraved fetishes and fantasies. Honestly, this is the type of movies and people we should be actively cancelling.
Yes! You said this so well! The amount of gaslighting going on about it is ridiculous too. People who say but it’s a critique about movies are the same people who say it’s just a joke after harassing someone. They literally made a pov shot of medical sa and reproductive abuse?? How is that even allowed? I’m so done with men and hollywood
My mom and I went into this film expecting a biopic about her life, even if it was embellished. But we stopped not even halfway through because we couldn’t behind how fetishized everything was. Marilyn Monroe is such as strong, intelligent and interesting person with a fascinating life. There are so many untouched stories in her life that we never get to see because people only want to focus on the “dumb sexy blonde” aspect and it’s a real shame.
The director openly admitted he never watched any of Marylin’s movies and it fucking shows
That's further proof that the film was only made to cash in on the success of a Hollywood Starlet who died tragically young.
really shows just how little he actually cares about Marilyn, it’s the BARE MINIMUM to watch movies about the incredibly famous figure you’re covering
there’s no fucking way
The movie isn't about Marilyn's films. It never was. It is a character study in how childhood trauma overwhelmed and destroyed Marilyn's life. Nothing more. It was adapted from a best selling book that details many of the same scenes. The movie got a 14 minutes standing ovation at the Venice Film festival. The director took existing still photos and film footage and wove a narrative around it. The book did the same thing. The author of the book called the movie brilliant.
@@michaelguest4247 don’t get it wrong right now.
the movie is GOOD, it’s filmed wonderfully. it has STUNNING cinematography.
however what is this movie based on? marilyn monroe. the story is terrible. ana de armas acted like a baby and even overacted in so many different ways.
this movie exploited the story and life of a woman who was already sick of being used and objectified while being alive.
i truly believe one of the worst things here is the fact that marilyn monroe has no close family to her, no grandkids and no children who can sue these people who tarnish her name and who use her for financial gains and who use her popularity as “clout” and who make movies objectifying her.
how would you like to be imagined in a 3some long after you were dead?
if marilyn monroe lived to old age would she still be sexualized as much as she is now?
beautiful movie with beautiful shots but disgusting story, should never have been made, or at least create the movie based on a FICTIONAL character and not someone who has lived and has struggled a lot with her image and personal life not going hand in hand if the makes sense.
Oates and Dominic blame Marilyn's suffering on her sexy persona rather than society's inability to believe that a person can be sexy AND deserving of respect and dignity.
THAT part!
It's sad that society just cannot see beyond a person's external appearance. Besides. After all these years this is how men see her. The director needs to be sued.
That’s weird I thought that was exactly the point of the film - to show that society didn’t believe she could be sexy and deserving of dignity and respect…
This! They will use any tactic to paint you as crazy or value less. It’s just sad that these women pay the price for the worlds primitivism when it comes to what it means to be a woman, a full rounded human. Despicable.
@@xxo5294 The film doesn't show her any dignity or respect and takes her agency away.
The fact that Marilyn was such a smart person. She literally loved reading and self-taught herself a lot. She also really wanted to be a mother but COULDN'T for medical reasons. She helped little girls by saying all girls are pretty, and never put any other women down. She was so talented too :'v
It’s really unsettling to turn someone’s deep desire to have a child and inability to carry to term into an abortion fantasy.
seriously, she never had any confirmed abortions so wtff was that about
I was infuriated when the writer and others implied it as a feminist film. No you wanted to see a woman tortured for 3 hours. There is nothing feminist or empowering about that.
true! also the pro life propaganda, trying to guilt trip women is of course suuuuper feminist
@@technobrain666 I didn't even think of the prolife agenda til she mentioned! Which just makes me feel more sick over this movie. Marilyn's struggles with fertility in real life in comparison to what the film depicts just further pokes and prods at her issues in such an unsympathetic manner.
@@technobrain666 also i read somewhere that we don't actually know if Marilyn ever had an abortion? it's known that she had a few miscarriages, but nowhere that's said that she for sure had an abortion. i get fiction dramatization etc etc, but this is such a huge thing to just make up, particularly when they more or less centre the entire emotional drive of the movie around it?
I agree... 'Feminist?' HA! It was one of the most misogynistic films I have ever (half) seen (as I really couldn't finish it.)
"but Men are the ones torturing her, isn't that what feminism is about??"
In a recent interview with the director Andrew Dominik, he said, “'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' is just a movie about well-dressed whores.” That alone tells me how little respect he has for Marilyn Monroe. This film should have been made by someone who actually did their research about Marilyn and cared enough to portray her in a different light that showed the intelligent and sensitive woman she was.
Considering he admitted that he never watched a single one of her movies, it makes sense that he’s so ill-informed about her and her one-dimensional portrayal
I think this movie still would’ve sucked even if it wasn’t about Marilyn Monroe, or I guess the idea of her, or whatever the hell it was going for, what a mess.
@@kush6846 exactly he’s just an awful director
@@kush6846 You're right. There's an overly sadistic tone in this film that it feels like he's doling out his own form of punishment on Marilyn simply for existing. Can't imagine it would have been any better if it were about another female.
This makes me BOIL
God, it's awful that they just heard that her mother was schizophrenic and was in a mental hospital and then they just automatically assumed she was abusive. That's so ableist and disgusting.
Yeah like from what I remember she was a good mother who Marilyn got back in touch with when she was older and who she supported money wise even after death.If anything she was more of a danger to herself than her daughter and that assumption is so awful
its a fictional movie lmao
@@cheapbongs It's a movie about a real person life. Would you like someone making a 3 hours movie about events that never happened in your life, inventing the fact that your parents beats you and you got rworded ? It's just sick it's not "just a movie"
@@mishadodo4256 its a fictional movie based on a fictional book, are you serious? lmao if you cant interpret meaning from the film effectively thats your fault...may want to stick to watching pixar films
@@cheapbongs It's a fictionnal book about a REAL person are you playing dumb or what.
Just let Marilyn rest!!! The movie was nothing more than a cashgrab under Marilyns name
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 I think what he means by letting her rest is let us remember her as we knew her without fiction or falsehoods. Let the memory of her rest as it once was. Don't tarnish her memory.
Honestly a film about the friendship between Ella Fitzgerald and Marilyn Monroe would be a movie that I would watch.
I read somewhere that the whole thing about Marilyn Monroe going to Mocambo every night for Ella to perform didn't happen. MM was in New York and Ella in Los Angeles at that time.
@@dominos6576 Idk if she attended every show but it did happen, its in Ella Fitzgerald's biography.
@@meikoblock yeah and there’s a picture of them I believe
I would love that so much!!
@@dominos6576 Ella talked about it, though.
imma say it again: the director watched Cassie in Euphoria S2 and felt inspired
Exactly
And you didn't read the novel blonde ¿right?
@@LuisGarcia-wx4hq no not interested
Men need to discover Ao3 as an outlet because giving them a budget for thier fanfictions is always a mistake
This the one
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Some stuff on it is literal masterpiece
It is adapted from a bestselling book called Blonde. The author Joyce Carol Oates not only gave her blessing on the script but called the film brilliant.
Unfortunately, the book it's based on was written by a woman, who has shown in interviews that she also has no respect for Marilyn.
The director infantilized MM and portrayed her as a hyper-sexualized, dough-eyed wimpy crybaby with daddy issues. Stripped her of any dignity, wits, agency, grace, smarts and spirit. He insists that it's based on fiction and not a biopic, then why go to such lengths to make it look like real events by recreating actual photoshoots, movie scenes and going so far as to film in the actual place where she passed away? Just despicable.
It's doe-eyed. Not dough.
Exactly. The new Elvis movie is so stylized that I don’t think anyone would mistake it for aiming for any accuracy.
right? like - look at "Spencer" for example. it doesn't try to recreate real life scenes/events - or at the very least, not in a way that makes it integral to the plot - and it's filmed in such a way that it's _obviously_ fictional, an interpretation. we can't control how audiences interpret things sometimes (e.g. i'm sure there must be some that may treat "Spencer" as historical fact, like how others use "The Crown" like a history book, and the director for "Blonde" has been going up and down saying how audiences just dOn'T gET it) but there are times when the author's intentions and idea of a person are _very_ clear in the work.
Netflix specifically writes that it is fictional in the description up front.
That’s the point of the film, that’s what the directors vision is with his biopic films. To make her into a spectical, the same way the public/media have done for years
Not only am I disgusted about how this movie portrays a fictional rape, it lies about someone being a rapist too. It disrespects both Marilyn and JFK.
fr like even if the plot is fiction, those are real ppl theyre talking about
They really did her dirty. She was an amazing, smart, and witty woman.
Seconded, not that this film would have you believe that.
And hard working as well.
But where did they show she was dumb?? They showed how others saw her. There were scenes where they showed she was smart, well read, knew what she was doing as an actor and stuff
@@yanan4249 Absolutely. She made her career a success and made herself into an icon.
Her acting is GENIUS anyone can see that she is playing the character for COMEDY. And she’s damn good at it too. Girlfriend studied with Lee Strasbourg she did not stay in the film business to play around
This movie reminds me of how the media, producers and movie studios already treated Marilyn when she was alive. You would think that in this modern age where we already know all the hardships Marilyn had to go through for being seen as a dumb sexualised blonde, there would be a movie to demonstrate that in favour of her instead of repeating the same narrative that she’s had for years
It is a study in how childhood trauma can overwhelm and destroy an adult later in life. In that respect it succeeds brilliantly.
@@michaelguest4247 It would succeed if it wasn’t about a real person. Especially since it’s essentially fanfiction with how much of it is inaccurate.
I love stories that explore trauma and dark psychological themes but never those attached to real person due the harm it does to their legacy.
There is a bio documentary made by Italians about 10 years ago, which shows better the hardships she had to go through. I remember crying after seeing it, because no one deserves that kind of treatment.
@@lilliethomas3490 but the public already knows that. They could have shown the mistreat through a more empathetic prospective and by taking her side. Not by showing, yet again, how troubled she was and how sexualised she was, that just resulted in another exploitation of her character.
@@chrys8991 yeah fair point I agree
My father who’s in is late 50’s and not especially « woke » or in touch with nowaday’s concerns told us he was so disappointed with this movie. He admired Marylin so much he said the movie had stripped her of any joy she experienced in her life. He said it was extremely sad to watch and like there were never any good things in her life ..
“I don’t think [Marilyn Monroe] was a woman with a lot of female friends.” Um, she had PLENTY of female friends. She got along famously with Jane Russell, Judy Garland, and Ella Fitzgerald to name a few and she allegedly had affairs with women, two of the most famous women being Joan Crawford and Marlene Dietrich. But of course, the director doesn’t know that because he was too busy sexualizing her trauma to do any more homework beyond said trauma. 🙄
I have heard that MM tended to move on from people though. She didn't stay in contact with Jane Russell after their film was completed. I still like to believe they were friends forever, but she seemed to close people off from her life. I think Jack Lemmon had the same experience.
@@dominos6576 in fact it is also a problem that married women in general experienced at the time. When you got married you often ended up making friends with your neighbors, but if you married a man who didn't appreciate your friends, you also risked losing those few friends you had. In summary, the lives of many women were dictated by the decisions of their husbands, so it may be that the presence of her husbands took Marilyn away from deepening her friendships with other women. Then we must remember that she was still a movie star forced to be surrounded by men for work, and maybe, at some point, she did not even feel encouraged to create friendships with other women, as she is not used to it.
obviously mine are mainly assumptions
She was also friends with Dorothy dandridge
@@ilariaatzei Yeah, that sounds true, but I also think she might have closed people off as a way to protect herself from getting hurt by others. She liked being alone I think. It's all psychological, so I'm not too well read in this area.
Also I believe she was good friends with Henry Rosenfeld, her designer.
Things we could have gotten in a Marilyn Monroe movie:
Her childhood in the foster care system
Her love of reading, film and acting
How she hide her high intelligence with her "dumb blonde" persona being a complete act
How her fame started when a magazine released nudes of her without her consent, how she overcame it and made the best out of the situation given the time period she was in
How she fought for equal pay in the entertainment industry
Her fight for black artists like her FRIEND Ella Fitzgerald
The time she shared her dress with black actress Dorothy Dandridge, who was also her friend
Her struggles with endometriosis and infertility when she really wanted children
Her battles with metal illness (that isn't glorified or fetishized)
Her spiritual beliefs
Her internal battle with sex and the possibility of her being asexual
And how she even planned to open her own equal pay movie studio
What we got in this "Marilyn Monroe" movie:
Pro life propaganda
The continued exploitation and objectification of a real life woman who always deserved better
I just want one movie about Marilyn where she is real person with smarts and humor, not sexy doll((
I would love to see/read more about this. I don't think there would ever be such a movie but are there any books that address these things?
Yes, she was friends with Ella and her big fan! I totally forgot that.
I'd love a Marilyn movie with a Fleabag style POV where we're let into how witty and complex she was, contrasted to Joe men and the rest of the world view her. It would be great because it would perfectly signify how all these biopics tried to define and dissect her but no one really cares to know the true her and we may never will
She did open her own production company which provided her with leverage to strike a deal with 20th Century Fox ! She produced Bus Stop with it which was critically acclaimed
There are times when Ana de Armas look uncannily like Marilyn, especially when she smiles. It’s such a shame that casting was wasted on this film :/
💯 what I thought after watching the film
She was the prettiest girl to portray Marilyn unlike the previous Marilyn's they casted but her acting wasn't good and her accent still slips through.
I wish Hollywood would stop capitalising off of her, she’s been dead for a long time and she’s still everywhere, they need to let her rest.
They can’t let her rest. She died at a young age and you know how Hollyweird acts towards young women. They want to immortalize her and exploit her for as long as they can
People often forget that the reason why they keep using her image is because it makes money. If they couldn't make money from it, Marilyn would have died in 1962.
@@dominos6576 hence why I said I wish they would stop? i don’t understand what you’re trying to tell me, I already know.
@@urhexgirl Well, it's nice that you already knew that. I already knew that too.
@@dominos6576 cool?
Even after death, Marilyn can’t escape the perversion and cruelty of the entertainment business
Perfect line! Most of the time men destroy what they don't understand or what make them insecure would be mine.
That's perfectly what I'm thinking. How is this movie criticizing the sexualization of MM, when the movie itself IS sexualizing her? We don't see a scene of her as a real, individual human being in the whole film, just her persona and her relationship with men/how men saw her
@@PuripuriDrawings its honesty gross
@@martinnijs8317
men love to jerk it off the idea of our suffering that they themselves brought to us and then blame it all on us
Someone finally said it
I think the Marilyn estate should sue tbh. They frame these fictional traumas as fact, and romanticise them. It's one of the most vile depictions of imaginary trauma I have ever seen in a film, nevermind in a 2022 film.
They portrayed Marilyn as a fragile, crazy but SO SO sexual woman. I understand a lot of the choices here are artistic, however saying that they missed the mark is an understatement.
We have spent all these years learning about the abuse that women have been subject to at the hands of men for years. To have a man produce such a tone deaf collection of moving images (not even calling it a film anymore), is just unbelievable.
I tried so hard with this movie but im still reeling over it. Poor Norma, poor Marilyn and her poor family. Being slandered in this way. I wish I could personally apologise for this mess.
**edit**
Saying her estate should sue was just the only thing I could think to say at the time as I was just word vomiting my own feelings on the movie.
Thanks so much!
I was shock seeing how bas this movie is. It is objectifying sexual fantasy of victimized woman. You'll think people can do better in 2022... It looked more like start of the porn that real movie. Also it is terrible in portraying mental illness. It is bad and harmful in so many ways...
Why would the Marilyn estate sue this when they are the one's who have the authority to permit people to produce this filth, and they make a lot of money from her image too.
Her estate said they liked the film so clearly they don’t have an issue with it and they do not care for her which is sad. Honestly if they cared, they would have sued Joyce Carol Oates for the Blonde book.
Honestly I don't get the criticism of this movie. Apart from nudity maybe. Noone said its based on facts. Its a work of fiction. It didn't demean her but infact showed her raw disturbing psyche. I think people are having a hard time digesting to realise how troubled and vulnerable she was.
how does it romanticize it those scenes are literally made to look disgusting
The director is probably one of those creeps who hates Marilyn but simultaneously wants to sleep with her, and gets off on all the abuse. Literally had to switch it off half way
not "literally"
The ugly woman that wrote the book is the same.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 why not?
THANK YOU
Didn't even watch it because of this
There is an autobiography by Marilyn Monroe herself, which she wrote in the mid 50s called "My Story", and in it, she recounts her childhood and her struggle to fame in great detail. It shocks me to think no one involved in this movie even tried to read that book, as everything in this movie is false- according to Marilyn herself. Just read "My Story" by MM, and you will see how intelligent, independent, and complicated of a person she ways- how she was proud of doing "Gentlemen Prefer Blonds", and how she was so smart in her ways that she studied hard and worked hard to get to where she was, and how she never wanted to be viewed as a victim herself. She even mentions the Aunt character, depicted in the movie as cruelly abandoning her, had no other choice as she was simply broke, and even to later in her life she tried everything to take care of MM, and in reverse how MM later took care of her with great admiration. Everything in this movie is completely fiction, and incredibly disrespectful to Marilyn, especially when she herself WROTE a detailed autobiography of what was going through her head and which events happened- and all was simply ignored so an ignorant male director could use her life as a method to further tarnish her legacy and steal her own narrative from her. This movie is absolutely one of the most dumbest and disgusting attempt on an individual and continues on the horrible abuse media put on her.
The fact that they shoot her death scene in the actual room marylin died in…of course you felt a presence in the room Ana, it was Marylin in pure rage
That is twisted. Did they really film that in the same room she died in?
Where did Ana say that(interview)? I really wanna read that … thx!
@@Nina-vi2ix It sounds true. It's in the trivia section of IMDB.
@@dominos6576 yep
@@thepandoricaoffandomsbacku7349 That is disgusting.
It's tradegy porn. Completely devoid of any charm, spirit, and resilience that marilyn had. One scene that stood out to me (although not the worst) was the scene with her meeting Joe dimaggio's family. The ditzy dialogue and the lack of ppl skills they gave her showed how little they knew about Marilyn and how committed they were to depicting her as an airhead. She was known to be helpful around the house and completely friendly with the women she lived with.
True trauma porn fanfic
Imagine a sadistic director making a movie of all your life trauma and not focusing on your strengths at all...
Imagine an idiotic viewer that completely misses the point of your film. Imagine the entire world being so retarded that they are enraged because you show them the ugly thuth, and they claim that "since you didn't sugarcoat the violence, it means you support violence". I mean, imagine that. Imagine how much of a joke is modern society.
Welp, at least it's better than Marilyn's time.
Yeah.. that was Barbie Life in the Dreamhouse for me 🫠
@@katherineraquelle1930Huh?!.
The victim blaming is truly amazing. Marilyn had a lot of real trauma in her life, making up fake stuff and blaming her for it is gross.
What exactly is fake?
@Gretchen kushner the entire abortion plotline is fake. In real life, Norma had trouble conceiving, and it was a struggle for her because she wanted to be a mother.
The sexual assault plotlines are also made up; as the video said, there is no evidence that her boss at the studio or JFK ever assaulted her.
The amount of sex and nudity is fake - in real life she was described as 'prudish'
The idea that she had no female friends, or friends in general, is made up, since she was famously friends with many women in the film and music industry
The idea that the Marilyn persona was forced onto her is made up, since she purposely kept her stage persona separate from her real personality
Her abusive mother is made up, and the idea that her life was endless tragedy and that it was her own fault for being "too sexy" is fake
@@gretchenkushner6449 her alter ego (Marilyn Monroe) being enforced onto her when she made it herself, john f Kennedy having s3x with her, her mother trying to murder Marilyn
@@gretchenkushner6449 she was never raped, she never had abortions, and she was a very smart, determined and ambitious woman.
lol guys I'm cringing my ass off at all those comments. "Victim blaming" hahaha. Come on, keep it going, what else did this evil film do wrong? Ableist, sexist, ageist.. Racist, was it racist? Fatphobic, homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic, kennedophobic...
If this movie was in the hands of another director, someone who cared. It could have been an inspirational and empowering movie about Marilyn. It could have also shown the other side of her we don’t see, away from the stereotypes. The smart and clever woman who was misunderstood.
i don't think ana de armas could play that marylin either though, she seemed to only want some miserable crying girl oscar bait role
@@vokkagirl it does seem like the only thing this movie is aiming for is a couple of Oscars
Should have been an inspirational and empowering movie about Marilyn, but nope... we can't have that, can we?
The "it's her fault" message in the movie is disgusting, it's just outright despicable..
Yuck! What's wrong with these people? No really... What's wrong with these people?
I agree 100% I feel like this movie could’ve been so much better if it was written and directed by a woman a female director would’ve done sooo much for this movie
@@vokkagirl i think ana could've played that marilyn, she's been amazing in everything i've ever seen her in (even when she's playing a tiny role, or starring in a godawful movie), but i also agree that she probably did blonde for the oscar bait. though honestly who can blame her, she's probably desperate to break out of the sidekick/love interest typecasting rut she's been in for most of her career and (wrongly) thought that blonde was going to be the movie to do that for her
the fact she wanted to have kids and had miscarriages irl because her endometriosis but in the movie the depicted her having an abortion because of ableist vaules is sooooo DISGUSTING ugh
I think what emily ratajowski said on her tiktok was the best take on this. I’m paraphrasing here, but she talks about how fetishised female pain and tragedy is. I think this movie takes it to another level. Creating new trauma and travesty for the sake of entertainment for someone who famously struggled with these things is another level of disgusting. It’s like they get off on her pain, even after she died. I hate what people did to her legacy.
It does seem like a disturbing fap fest doesn't it?
"they get off on her pain" yeah that's it! that's exactly it
sorry but emily whateverthefuckherlastnameis' response to the adam levine drama and tolerating the fact that mistresses knowing fully well the cheater is married yet they stilled egged him on and said they don't deserve the guilt just shows how tone deaf she is and doesn't know that it takes two to tango
so true ..thanks for your great insight .
Agreed 100%. Men will literally fetishize anything. Anything.
And apparently also JCO, because the book wasn’t better
Cannot believe how one-dimensional they made her in this. You're telling me all she did was cry and drown in misery and that's all there was to her life? No happy moments whatsoever? Please. She was an extremely talented, smart, funny and witty woman. The absolute nerve they had to portray her as only a sad, naive and honestly? Plain dumb woman.
No she had one happy moment. When she overdosed and her ghost was happy to be dead. I lost it at that, it was so gross
@@Magicalnora and to think they shot that in the same room she actually died in 😡
@@leleprtk no fucking way. Just trash trash trash. I even wish I didn't watch this damn movie
but thankfully 😂 it was a pirate site and a watchalong with a TH-camr who already did not rate the director
They probably portrayed her that way because it means they'd have to invest very little effort into it. It takes time and money to research and portray a complicated and multi-dimensional person. Obviously, they felt she wasn't worth it and they passed off this shoddy wreck; an insult to MM and a disgraceful product of the arts.
@@Magicalnora did y’all noticed they turned her death scene into one of her most iconic photoshoots? I said wtf a lot during this movie but the end was wtf wtf wtf wtf. Reunited with daddy’s photograph too.
it scared tf outta me how inappropriate it got.. i didnt know they were gonna portray her like that.. how evil.
omg inappropriateness... truly the plague of our times
@@keyser9537?
Thankyou for making this. I thought I might like the movie because the aesthetics and costumes looked appealing, but as a Marilyn Monroe fan, I was disgusted by how they portrayed her 😥😥 She was made into a total joke.
Agreed, it was a mockery to the real lady herself. I hope that you post a rant video on this movie, Serena.
@@trinaq I talked about it on my tiktok a couple of days ago, but i might do a whole video about it honestly
@@trinaq I'm glad that ModernGurlz talked about it though
@@SerenaSkybourne Coolness, I'm a huge fan of your videos, so I look forward to a potential video.
Even worse when she was quoted in an interview saying “Please don’t make me a joke.” It’s something she fought against for so long and we still cannot respect her most basic wishes
The thing I hate most might be that Monroe didn't even enjoy sex, for her it was just kinda there and something she happened to be good at. She wrote extensively that she wasn't very fond of it. How the hell did they ignore that.
They ignored everything ..
“Compilation of her worst moments” is a PERFECT way to describe this film. Absolutely dreadful.
the abortion scene literally made me gasp, what a horrible depiction of a very traumatic event wth
Yeah, I had to turn my head in disbelief at that scene. I couldn't believe it, and viewing the instruments going inside from the inside was not necessary at all.
Nyphomanic vol 2 did a better job.
Seconded, they didn't even need to depict the abortion on screen. It seemed to be only there for shock value alone.
@@trinaq The whole film was shock value.
@@trinaq
It genuinely seems that it was only there to further the pro life narrative that the fetus is alive and conscious and suffering during the procedure. Couple that with the movie having the child blame Marilyn, yep that's 100% pro life propaganda.
I really feel like it should be illegal to make a movie about a real life person’s life but not make it a biography. It’s like people don’t care about ruining the reputation of someone once they’re dead. This goes not just for well-know people from the 20th century, but all throughout history.
I really feel like it should be illegal for you to make retarded comments like that.
Blonde is Hollywood’s revenge porn against Marilyn and why the men there still feel the need to do this will forever haunt me
Exactly !! Well worded
Perhaps they are jealous of Marilyn’s success
why can’t Marilyn just rest in peace ? from her interpretations, to Kim wearing and tearing apart her dress and now this !?
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 dead people can definitely get pissed off, never seen a ghost? Ghosts are typically depressed or angry
We live in a world where people wanna capitalize on someone's memory rather than respect their career and acknowledge what they went through when they built that career. In other words, we want to romanticize and fetishize women's trauma instead of admitting that they are legitimate human beings outside of their persona, in this case, Marilyn Monroe's "dumb, sexy blonde" persona
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Dead people can't feel anything, but all she feels now is eternal bliss and happiness? It's called preserving her *actual* legacy. Sounds like you're glorifying death. Bruh you weird fr
@@marissacantu8577 not everyone believes in ghosts, and this is not a good argument because it’s a BELIEF.
*it's time to let marilyn monroe and diana spencer rest in peace. enough with the biopics*
EXACTLY👏
Yeah, this will never happen whilst they can make money out of it. It is all about money nothing else.
Agree and agree. No more biopics
It wasn’t a biopic? I thought it was an art film
I agree on that
Hearing the description of this movie and comparing it to Marilyn's own account of her life in her unfinished autobiography "My Story" is wild. Especially in regards to her account of her mother.
The drowning scene is based on Gladys REMOVING HERSELF FROM THE SITUATION when Norma Jeane asked the name of her father. And while it can hurt children whenever their parents shut down on them, it's a far cry from trying to murder them.
Monroe emphasizes her mother's love towards her children and what she was willing to sacrifice, telling a story of Gladys traveling hours to see the children of her first marriage after their father kidnapped them only to ultimately give up custody when she realized that they would be much happier living with him.
Monroe also describes her mother's mental breakdown that landed her in a mental hospital, but it was only destructive towards herself, rather than being any sort of violent lashing out.
It is absolutely sickening to see her be demonized because of the stigma around mental illness when she sounds like she was a decent person who genuinely loved her daughter.
This might be one of the most misogynistic movies ever made
Yup. And it’s super gross.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 do you know how many people who can relate to her-- who have gone through similar traumatic experiences? Even if it wasnʻt about Marilyn, thereʻs blatant disgust towards her, a person, who was not only put in foster care, but someone who was a mentally ill AND woman in the 50ʻs. Thereʻs sexual violence too, do you know how tone deaf this is? This isnʻt just hurting an image of a deceased person, this furthers the message of "woman did something bad, so she must be punished." Itʻs sadistic, and itʻs sad. I think you need to reevaluate what youʻre saying here.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 you must be a pro life supporter ???..floating fetus talking fetus is ridiculous and insulting to all woman ...this is propaganda film at its worst.
@@Internet-Alias this is misrepresenting her and her story and her pain ...do the film with a different character ..even though it would still be a sick piece of trash ...at least it would not be a money grab with her image !!!
What’s the sad part of Marilyn’s life? Her legacy after her death. It’s more sad to see people basically treat her like a circus attraction with a lot of conspiracy theories and gossip for audiences to paid and see!
It all makes her life more tragic than what it already was. Isn't that sad? All she wanted was to be loved and be wonderful at what she did. Respect isn't a lot to ask for.
I would say her ending up in orphanage, and multiple fister families can be deemed as sad part of her life. In one of her bios, It is said hiw she never threw away stale bread, because she was alwas given it while in fister care, and how she cried tears of joy when she was finally able to afford fresh bread.
The life of Norma Jeane is sad. Why people don't want to see it, is bonkers to me. She was a women who desperately wanted a family, yet couldn't find a man who respected her and treated her as equal. She wanted to be a mother, yet she couldn't keep her pregnancy. She was ambitious acrress, who wanted to do high drama yet was always casted as a dumb blonde or movie bombshell. She was ver inteligent and shrewd women yet everyone percieved her ti be dumb and wanted her to behave that way.
Why people want to make her into "girlboss" icon is beyond me.
@@mewtwo6849 stripping her of all her accomplishments and not only focusing, but also amplifying the trauma she faced is pure misogyny. they would never do that to a man. and yes, marilyn was a girlboss. marilyn herself didnt consider herself a victim.. but if you want to wallow in trauma and pain have at it.
@@mewtwo6849 if you read more about her than just the trauma, you will know she’s more than that. She openly talks about her trauma, talks about the wolves in Hollywood, fights with the studio heads, opening a film production company, always tried to improve her acting, married Arthur Miller even he’s in danger of getting blacklist, etc. There’s so many things that her biopic can show instead of just that (gossips and conspiracy theories).
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
It 👏🏼 was 👏🏼 fan 👏🏼 service, he could’ve just made a gruesome pervy movie without using Marilyn Monroes life and name
They literally made her death look aesthetic☠️
not "literally"
Exactly. They completely fetishized and glamorized these false narratives about her
Even bi girls fetishize Marilyn by making rumors she was bi lmao
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety what?
@@AntiStraightMaleSocietylmao you sound so stupid. Marilyn talked about a lot things like that
Thanks, won't watch it. Enough fetishising on women's pain
Literally, it's a moral decision not to watch it for me
Amen
@@basicradical3581 the real Marilyn deserves better.
@@basicradical3581 not "literally"
I just think it’s hilarious in a shitty way that both Oates and Dominic are all like “sHe WaS a SeXuAL wOmAn WhO iS ReSpOnSiBLe FoR heR oWn dOwnFaLL” and yet both of them have to consistently make shit up in their works to the point that it’s more fictional than anything just to “prove” their point 🙄
i was hoping it wouldn't be terrible before watching but sadly its exactly that. complete exploitation and it objectifies and dehumanizes marilyn and removes her agency all in the name of "art". just an awful movie can't believe how it got made. great review!!
The movie is about how Marilyn's childhood trauma overwhelmed and destroyed her life. That's all. In that respect it is brilliant. Perhaps if you opened your mind and looked at the movie for what it is was instead of what you believed it should be you would have understood the movie better. It is adapted from a bestselling book that has many of the same scenes in the book. It was a lauded and celebrated book. The author vetted the film and calls it brilliant.
@@michaelguest4247 The book was also highly ficticious and showed no real respect for Norma's struggles, so having said author applaud the movie isn't that much of a high praise.
@@D0MiN0ChAn Of course the writer would applaud the film that is based on her book. It makes her more money too.
@@michaelguest4247 all of that is speculative, take it as fiction, and not a reality-based look into her real life.
@Michael Guest Okay and? What about it? Are we not allowed to say that the movie is shit and insensitive? Because it is just that, and it seems the books is as well
they clapped this for 14 minutes in venice film festival ?? wtf
That's not really a good standard tho lol those film festivals are, most times, just for snobs to feel better about themselves
Lots of shockingly terrible movies have a good response at festivals. Peer pressure, maybe heat of the moment. Maybe a bias that the film must be good if it was chosen for a festival, better not be the one person who didn't 'get' it.
They would have set a better example if they had walked out and condemned this instead. It is only something those involved can appreciate because it would help them understand where they need to improve.
(tw) I finished reading Blonde about a month ago. I think people are kind of off base singling out the director. He was working from a female author's novel. If anything he delivers a diluted version of what she wrote. I hope that the novel gets re-examined in the wake of the film, because I found it unsettling but mostly saw praise for it online before the film came out. Joyce Carol Oates came across as wanting to heap as much humiliation and pain on Marilyn as possible, even sexualizing her as a newborn when she has a man describe her baby vagina as a silk purse. She kept stressing that Marilyn smelled bad sometimes, and most other female characters too. I felt like the whole novel was Joyce Carol Oates venting her internalized misogyny.
Yeah, Joyce Carol Oates is one of those salty women who really fulfills the unfortunate "ugly jealous feminist" (second wave lol) stereotype. Isn't she also a TERF? yuck
Also I'm so tired of seeing sexy women crying in the nude, it's so weird and fetishy. Makes me so uncomfortable because I see myself in these women, I'm large chested and have a few traits that fit the beauty standard. Sometimes it almost feels like I'm being told I'll be sexy if I'm experiencing trauma while nude and that's a horrible thing. Even now if im really upset about something crying has started to feel sexual because of my internalized male gaze. Why the heck are we sexualizing severe trauma and saying it's attractive. Disgusting and I'm tired of it.
I feel for you. What was that quote by Margaret Atwood about being your own voyeur? It really can be hard sometimes to disconnect outside influences from your own perception of yourself.
For me personally there is nothing better than to spend time disconnected from the discourse on social media and certain movies and tv series, alone with myself, just experiencing everyday life. I am at a point now luckily where I know what I want to consume and what is not good for my mental health.
Wishing you all the best
The amount of men I've encountered who have expressed that women crying and disheveled are hot and don't understand why we (women) are disturbed by this...
I’m so sorry, that’s heartbreaking. I don’t know what to say other than that you’re not alone and I understand. I really do. I think we have to give weight to our own view, they’ll see us how they want but in doing so they’re only revealing their own perverse character. And we see that, we see how disgusting they are. And we also see our own dignity and each other’s. Our dignity exists independently from men’s delusions, they can project their sick fantasies onto us all they like but it doesn’t make them true. That’s what I tell myself. I don’t want to live my life from the viewpoint of someone like that, and as invasive and loud as they might be we don’t have to go along with it. We can stick together and live our own way. I have so much respect for you and for how you’ve put this experience into words. Wishing you safety and healing ❤️🩹
This movie was so awful and unbearable to watch. I was kinda mad at myself for trying to get through it. Marilyn was so much more than her sex appeal, trauma and body. Yes there was pain in her life, but there was so much light and power in her too, it's still why so many women revere her till this day. the parts that had me fuming were the several traumatic abortions and miscarriage in the film being framed in a prolife way. And then giving her DID all coz she said she didn't feel like Marilyn was the real her. Like make it make sense!?! I hope one day the world either let's this woman rest or take care and apply empathy in how they tell her story.
That was the point though - the film made it a point to show that she was more than those things and assuming that was everything was the problem… interesting people don’t see that
@Bfndlsl Cbdns sweetie, have you even seen the video? Or the movie? Seems like you have hard time understanding things, sad and crule doesn't equal deep
@Bfndlsl Cbdns have you fucking read what the joke of a director said about Monroe in his interviews?
@@Lucy-cl2qk Im talking about the movie we watched
@@Lucy-cl2qk sweetie, deep what
You know where the daddy/mommy issues comes from when you see the writer of that trash mention Freud as a sign for being smart and being taken seriously.
What?.
I felt dirty watching this movie cause it looked like a "sexy depression" - male fantasy, not a story. Marilyn used like and object here and it feels awful. It is fanfiction, but brought to screen and glorified
Isnt Lana Del Reys whole thing "sexy depression" and chicks love her
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 dude stop constantly spamming the same comment it’s not relevant. Get a life
@@ladyredl3210 Amen to that! It’s headache inducing. We get the point, but on every comment post… sheesh 😒
Marilyn Monroe deserves so much BETTER.
She does, if she had the right support, don’t forget she died obviously something WAS torturing her? maybe the writer was exploring WHY ?????
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 You commented this under my comment and it's still a really bad take, get a life.
Milton greene’s wife- who knew Marilyn personally- said she had a wonderful time in life. Really, she wanted to make that clear in an interview she had in her eighties. She is quoted as saying, “ Marilyn wasn’t a victim- she had a blast and a hell of a good time.”
Dominique was asked by someone "what do you think about Marilyn Monroe?" And gave the most under-researched, sexist, misogynistic, selfish, self-insert opinion of her and thought it was so good he based his movie on that alone. This movie says more about HIS character then anything to do with Marilyn. He made a caricature of Marilyn from his opinion. The worst thing is, lots of people will take it as the truth instead of digging deeper or questioning his motives 🤦♀️
What did he actually say I'm curious
There was a filmmaker who made a movie about an actress and it was quite similar. The male gaze will have you believe that witnessing trauma is how you interact with trauma on screen.
The movie also gave me David Lynch vibes from visuals to story (especially Laura Palmer).
@@isaacgray2909 This movie could've been like Fire Walk With Me
@@dominos6576 Hi Domino! The “male gaze” is quite often used to characterize the sort of male directing that often frames women more as sexual objects, or frames their achievements as connected A: to male characters, B: as a result of sexual exploits, or C: as a result of trauma that a male character must help her overcome. Think Michael Bay’s Transformers as an extreme example. The male gaze within this movie frames Marilyn’s achievements as intertwined with sex, as opposed to real-life examples, like her amazing work ethic and determination to make something of herself. Hope this helps!
Edit: this isn’t to say that all male directors frame women this way, but it is a trend within male-directed media. Think how Patty Jenkins frames the Amazons in Wonder Woman as strong, interesting warriors with real and practical armor as opposed to Whedon’s framing within Justice League, where their armor is more sexual than useful.
@@christy1819 I'll look into it more. Thanks
@@dominos6576 thats the book tho. the movie is directed by a man and all of the important characters except marilyn are all white men
I don't get why people who don't respect Marilyn are the same ones making films about her?
i was FURIOUS when i heard about the talking fetus scene. how disgusting to insert a blatantly anti-choice scene like that, especially since it's so dishonest and fake since marilyn desperately wanted kids and couldn't have them in real life
Anti-choice is just a disgusting worldview to have, period, but that's largely because of how blatantly manipulative it always is. It's obvious enough that someone doesn't care about women when they promote such foul propaganda, but here is NOT the place to do that. How utterly repulsive and childish. Anti-choicers will truly never see the light it seems.
Also CGI of fetus older than 3 months, i cringed hard
Tbh I don't think pro-life propaganda is bad, there's so many pro-choice propaganda too in media. They disrespected Marilyn's memory and the movie is poorly executed and this is the problem ig
@@mmgs1148 it's not a fetus if it's older than 3 months, though.
yeahhh so dumb
people are forgetting that Marylin had an IQ of 160, she was an insanely intelligent woman but always depicted as the dumb blonde. she did have a hard life, but this movie romanticises every little detail
There is no factual evidence that Marilyn ever had her IQ tested. 160 would put her at the same level as Steven Hawking and Linus Pauling. Only one in 30k people have an IQ score that high. Not saying that it is impossible, but there is no use in throwing around unlikely claims like these without any sort of proof.
I love Marilyn to death and wish the film had shed light on her avid intellectualism, I 100% agree with that! But there isn’t any evidence that she had a 160+ IQ. There is no record of her having ever taken an IQ test. Her favorite book was The Brothers Karamazov (a highly sophisticated piece of Russian literature, for those who may not know) so she was 100% extremely bright… but this particular IQ score is very arbitrary. IQ tests were not even available for adults until 1955 when she was almost 30.
@@somesweetdreamm Yeah, that is so true. No evidence of IQ test exist for MM, and I don't think it's an accurate measurement of intelligence anyway. She was obviously intelligent, so that's enough.
@@somesweetdreamm The battery of tests used to measure IQ was used on college students and bright children going back to the 1930s.
@@dominos6576 IQ is an accurate measure of intelligence, as SAT scores map well to the Human Development Index.
The next Marilyn biopic needs to be directed by a woman who likes the woman.
yessssss
That would be boring af
Leave marilyn monroe alone
@@keyser9537could be interesting. They are more restraint on the male gaze
But the book “blonde” was written by a woman and she even publicly called the film a masterpiece
Honestly? If the director wanted to create a punishment and rescue fantasy so bad with so much fictionalized sex, then he should have just made regular porn without dragging a historical figure through the mud.
Edit: spelling
The nude scenes (all of them) were unnecessary and I believe it was done with the intention to exploit Marilyn's legacy as well as the actress playing her. It's true Marilyn lived a difficult life but instead of showing her as a victim of circumstance she should have been shown as a resilient ,smart, witty she was. She had a lot of highs and lows in her career but only focussing on her personal relationship with men who were abusive is making her out to be some helpless damsel who needed rescuing
It also kinda feels like Hollywood doubling down and showing Ana de Armas her place, after she went for more action oriented roles that didn't even need her to be sexy.
Watching her in this fealt like some studio executives yelling: "You're supposed to show us your tits!" at her.
Couldn't agree more with the nudity. That one scene where her 1st husband (forget his name) came marching into the home after buying her nudes off those guys and she's on the floor with no top, just white underwear (almost like she's wearing just a diaper like a baby) and she keeps calling him daddy in that scene, ugh... just no
Thing is, Ana has a history of being in movies where she is an object for the male gaze (THE PURPLE ADV SCENE in Blade Runner still makes me fucking GAG) and I wouldn't be surprised had they told me she was cast because of this and not just the resemblance. She's just falling in the same place Marilyn was - an object to mistreat because you like the way it cries. I hope she can get better roles
@@giuliad223 Ana has had a LONG and successful career before Hollywood and English language media. saying she has a history of being in movies where she is the object of male gaze or whatever is totally ignoring the work she has done before these Hollywood movies. She was already a household name in Spain and Spanish language TV before you knew about her and it isn’t fair to reduce her to only these roles whatever you mean by that. It is also really insulting to her intelligence, talent, and hard hard work. She has the right to chose the work she does and be proud of it without people shaming her for it.
People should be talking about the fact that she learned to speak English very well in a very short amount of time we’ll into adulthood. People should be talking about her talent.
@@xxo5294 I'm sorry, you're right. What I meant to say was that Hollywood specifically is sexualizing her so much in my opinion. Which is extra disrespectful considering she's, like you said, already an important name in her country.
I’d like to make a movie about all the worst parts of Andrew Dominick’s life. Then I’ll add in some more bad parts just because I can. I won’t bother to clarify it isn’t true. And I’ll call it art.
But really. He is such a creep. Marilyn has always been misunderstood by those too shallow to actually get to know her.
Also, if Andrew Dominick has a disabled loved one who he loves and respects, demonise their disability and paint them as an abusive monster.
Imagine hating a celebrity that much you write a novel/make a movie about them to make them look bad... 👀
How I feel about HAVILAND STILLWELL voicing Barbie: Life in the Dreamhouse of Raquelle 😊
Honestly, the book shouldn't even have been written. Writing a fictional novel about a _real person's life_ is really irresponsible imo, and even more so for someone like Norma Jean whose image has been exploited decades after her death. The movie is just straight up torture p*rn and while some of the cinematography is gorgeous, it's not enough to save this boring train wreck of a film.
Essentially it's cruel fan fiction about a real person. Absolutely horrid.
True. We should put blame on the female author as well.
@@ladyvader2648 is Joyce Carol Oates still alive? if so, she deserves a lot of bad press about her book, and the movie based off of it.
Lol ya'll gonna start book burning now?
@@eliminator173 nah. I don't intend to buy it. Why would I buy a book if I intend to burn it? Simpler to not give the author any money by not buying it in the first place.
Blonde humiliates Marilyn in every way possible, it's supposed to be "human" but instead de-humanizes her to sell her suffering. Is terribly gross and it shouldn't exist
This needs to be the LAST Marilyn movie/documentary. I’ve had enough 😭
I will never understand why men will never understand that women can be both beautiful and intelligent. Sexual, but worthy of respect.
The disgusting author of the book this movie is based on is a woman.
Patriarchy. Toxic masculinity. Gender roles
@@dominos6576 it doesn't seem like it
A woman can’t be sexual and still be worthy of respect. Those two things don’t work
@@SirdanielCR funny joke
The more I hear about this movie I'm disgusted. How could no one have the foresight to leave the poor woman alone? Why do they keep tainting her memory even in death?! It is honestly appalling. Thank you for shedding more light on the nature of this movie, I will be sharing this video with my friends so that they don't watch it either
Money, and lots of it.
@@mayloo2137 that really is that sad truth of it :(
I wanted to see more of her childhood moving from foster home to foster home.. I want to know her as a human and her background not her being objectified
Yeah, no wonder Marilyn’s ghost has been haunting the production of this movie.
“The relationship is purely sexual, but portrayed as liberating for Marilyn because it’s her only consensual scene-“
Holy shit, could they have handled these serious topics any worse? The whole “healing through sex” trope is _such_ a shallow, self-serving interpretation of trauma. It’s _not_ something you can fetishise. Plus, the idea that a woman SA survivor needs to be “liberated” (?) by men is so tone deaf that it actually hurts.
And can we talk about how weird it is to write this shit about real people? Turning everybody into an abuser and adding graphic content that never happened for ✨ drama ✨ is incredibly disrespectful to say the least.
the magical healing c*** tag on ao3 was not meant to be taken seriously why didn’t they get the memo?
@@army4chair345 omg that was literally the first thing that came to mind 😭
Also, there’s a huge difference between a fanfic that was probably written by a teenager and a full-on Hollywood movie. The entire production team should have known better, they have 0 excuses with all the resources at their disposal.
So we got ableism, misogyny, anti choice propaganda, objectification, fetishization, victim blaming and other generalized exploitation in one movie? Do the filmmakers not know that this shit isn't tolerated in 2022, especially with a person who isn't here to defend herself? Please, please let her rest in PEACE.
This must be the worst year for the icon Marylin. See her beautiful dress throw on someone else and now this movie. Forgetting all the hard hard work she had put into becoming perfection
The cgi fetus is actually evil
it gave pro-life propaganda
@@yuenmienyu But she really did want kids really bad in real life
Thats when i stopped watching. Unsettling. Also had floating sperm.
@@casuallym3 but that does not mean she was haunted by a fetus
@@casuallym3 She was also infertile in real life. She, literally, could not even GET pregnant, let alone have an abortion. She would NOT have been haunted by the ghost of her child, since it was impossible for her child to even be conceived.
I feel like Ana de Armas is equally exploited. She said she's exhausted from a year of method acting and learning about her, amd having to depict her through acting. Nothing but love for Norma and Ana.
Ana should have backed out of this role.
@@lulucica1 i mean....if you were given the opportunity, it's so understandable to take the opportunity.
@@audrey9able not when you are complicit in the degradation of a women who is not here to defend her truth ...her story.
@@lulucica1 i understand. I don't know their process though and what was the idea that had De Armas enamored to do the story. I'm sure she admires Monroe and that had gotten her on board. I just don't have anything bad for De Armas since it's being shown a lot of this issue came from writing and the direction of the movie, unless she too had a bigger hand on it than method acting and following script.
I’d love a film that portrays her as a real person, someone smart, funny, friendly, and every other relatable thing she was.
I think biopics of Marilyn Monroe are overdone. This should be the last one. Enough is enough already…
honestly, we should really just leave marilyn alone
I am so happy that you also found this movie to offer gratuitous in sexualizing her! I actually had to walk away from it 45 minutes in, and then come back to it two days later. I also agree that the estate should sue. This reeks of a female author who hates beautiful and successful women, and the director simply being the HS boy who holds a grudge against pretty girls who turned him down.
the 'estate' is a big corporation who are more interested in making money because of her name. they don't care anything about the real life person that Norma Jean/Marilyn was.
Yeah Joyce is 100% salty toward beautiful and talented women.
I think this movie would have been so much better if it was directed by Emerald Fennell who directed "Promising Young Woman" because MM's story has a lot to do with the themes of "Promising Young Woman", about how many times we see ourselves as innocent for we do not abuse people while allowing others to do it, not helping the victim because we are quick to judge them. How many people saw what she went through and didn't do ANYTHING, because they judge her as promiscuous or even an instigator of her own suffering...
The worst thing about all of the fetishisation surrounding Merilyn is that she wanted to die in piece. Not be sexualised, analysed or anything of the sort. The fact that so many powerful people refuse to respect the most basic of wishes is horrifying.
you do realize the fact that when someone is dead, they can't feel anything. they can't feel any negative emotion. Marilyn is dead, therefore, she cannot feel disrespect, hurt, or trauma any more, all she can feel now is eternal bliss and happiness and she has experienced that eternal bliss and happiness ever since she died. i don't know why ya'll act like she's still alive with feelings when in reality, she's not, and she doesn't care what people make of her anymore because she's blissfully in paradise and finally in the happiness she needed all her short life.
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 just because she’s dead doesn’t give us the entitlement to disrespect her memory.
@@sg-yq8pm are you fucking serious? You’re blaming Marilyn for the fictional crap people produce about her? People aren’t entitled to defamation. Marilyn has no one on her side to protect her.
@@mintkit1064 Ahh, makes sense. Thank you
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 do you have to keep repeating the same thing… we get it 😕
I feel like the fact that this movie is called "blonde" is the first red flag. Queens/Freddie Mercury's Movie is called Bohemian Rhapsody, Elton John's movie is called Rocketman, Elvis Presley's movie is called Elvis. The point is that it's named after their "most recognisable work" or its usually just their last name because it's ment to be a movie about their life. The fact that this was named "blonde" is the first sign of disrespect. If this movie wanted to be a good depiction of Marilyn Monroe's Life it would've just been called Monroe
I’d love to have a movie called Raquelle the movie 😊
That movie was extremely hard to watch.They need to let Marylin rest!!
In fact, screw a documentary, I'd rather watch actual people discuss various aspects of her life and works on TH-cam than this one guy or group of guys 🙄🙄
@@Magicalnora there is a netflix documentary the mystery of marylin monroe: the unheard videotapes. It deals with the issue a lot better and a lot more respectfully
i don’t understand why they didn’t just make this movie about an original character rather than Marilyn.
I don't understand why they made this film at all. It was supposed to be about Marilyn because it is based on a book about Marilyn not an original character.
@@dominos6576 The book itself is also fictional. So if they wanted to make a film based on the book they could've easily changed the character's name and make it known that the movie is fictional. Instead, they marketed and filmed it in a way that it comes across as a biopic.
Even if it was a fictional character, it'd still be trash. All of this money and effort should've gone to Evelyn Hugo's film adaptation
@@sjna3493 People will believe anything in films regardless of how it is marketed. It's just how it is. No one wants to make an effort to know what is true and what isn't. Some do but not many.
They could've marketed it as an elseworld story, like in some weird horrendous other planet this is what happened to who we know as Marilyn. But no, they insist to confuse the public with this film to create outright false stories about her.
They just nitpick the most tragic and intimate moments in Marilyn's life, yeah sure she had a rough life but I'm 100% there were days she was truly happy and felt genuinely loved but I guess those parts of Marilyn's life were not edgy enough to gain profit from it for them
This is what I was thinking! Some people have lives replete with misery, but I'm sure everyone will have at least one single moment of joy or laughter or something that makes them smile in their lifetime.
I don't understand how it's even allowed to imply that actual real people committed crimes without any proof. How do the living relatives of these people even allow it when a dead family member is portrayed as a sexual predator/ rapist without any proof just for the sake of a fictional story? This was easily one of the worst movies I've ever watched, not only diminishing and insulting Marilyn but also dragging through the mud people that actually existed and may have done nothing wrong.
They simply didn't ask permission ig 👀
And the worst part is people will believe this actually happened.
unfortunately in Marilyn's case, she has no one left alive to defend her.
@@mayloo2137 Except those of us who regard her highly and respect her. There is much criticism against this film.
dude, marilyn's relatives are all dead and, she had no kids
as a survivor of sa i gotta say this film is absolutely disgusting. all the way from the objectification of marylin and fetishizing her trauma to the horrid handling of sexual violence. im so sick of hollywood making what’s essentially emotional torture porn, thanks for reminding me you dont see women as actual people but sexual objects you can exploit andrew! i hope he never works in film again
I can't believe that even after death Marilyn is still being treated as terribly as she was in life. Let her rest!!
I literally wanted to know what the fuss was about and watched it recently, and I literally had to physically stop watching when the POV shot of her being chased in the hospital screaming, “no.” came up…I’ve never been more disgusted by filmmaking.
not "literally"
A Marilyn Monroe movie directed by someone who doesn't like Marilyn Monroe is very 2022
I haven’t seen it but it sounds like the film equivalent of those jerks who bought the burial plots next to her “to sleep with her forever”. This poor woman.
It almost seems like the director made this solely to see his twisted hyper-sexualized fantasy of Marilyn come to life
The worst mistake that Hollywood allowed was letting a man direct a movie about misunderstood women in Hollywood like Marilyn
That’s silly. Plenty of capable men directors could’ve done a worthy job
And boom!
@@thebrowithnoname1703 every woman director could have done far far better than any of them
@@chrysallis2735 Sounds sexist
Somone was definetly angry how succesful this young woman was.
Its as if the world hates women🤔
Because of the things I've heard about this movie I am never watching it, ever. Hearing about it more in-depth in this video honestly disgusts me. Also the pro-life agenda for some reason??? The director obviously doesn't give a shit about Marilyn Monroe. They can claim it's not supposed to be a biopic as much as they want but they went to so many lengths to recreate things from her life for it not to be. If it's not a biopic and not based on facts about Marilyn's life then what is the point of this movie? It adds nothing to her story, it was just an excuse to bring the fetishization of Marilyn to life on screen. Ana de Armas honestly looks stunning but everything else about this movie is atrocious.
😳 Thank you for this review. She was an intelligent woman. More than the surface. Wish that would’ve been showcased.
I also love how most of the male comments on Rotten Tomato's either said they liked it, it was the most honest about her, or that it only focused one one aspect and wasn't a bio....
And the production has the audacity to call this movie feminist? That's the excuse Hollywood uses every single time they fail at portraying a female character. The worst of this entire movie, is this isn't 'Marylin', what they portrayed was a caricature of the director's depraved fetishes and fantasies. Honestly, this is the type of movies and people we should be actively cancelling.
Yes! You said this so well! The amount of gaslighting going on about it is ridiculous too. People who say but it’s a critique about movies are the same people who say it’s just a joke after harassing someone. They literally made a pov shot of medical sa and reproductive abuse?? How is that even allowed? I’m so done with men and hollywood
You don't even have to be a Marilyn Monroe fan to know this movie is an absolute mess.
My mom and I went into this film expecting a biopic about her life, even if it was embellished. But we stopped not even halfway through because we couldn’t behind how fetishized everything was. Marilyn Monroe is such as strong, intelligent and interesting person with a fascinating life. There are so many untouched stories in her life that we never get to see because people only want to focus on the “dumb sexy blonde” aspect and it’s a real shame.