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- The War Hammer Titan Theory - AOE Edition
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Remember the war hammer titan theory from when the manga was still ongoing? Well, what if we get that, but in the anime original ending?
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Honestly the War-Hammer itself is the most underused titan in the entire show. You would think that such an op ability would’ve been used more throughout the story. Unless Eren uses it near the end of the show. People say the colossal titan is useless, but the War-Hammer is probably slightly more useless than the colossal.
The warhammer is one of the shining examples of how the story was purposely brought to a close by the editors. There are far too many points that have no pay off. An example being, titan powers passing to the next eldian born if a shifter dies without passing on their power. When writing, you don’t make up shit like that for no reason. They gave Eren the power of the warhammer… simply to escape prison? Eren escaping prison would be an easy thing to come up with, but to have Eren go out of his way to bring the warhammer home for that??? weak sauce
@@FiggFig he used it sm against reiner and porco, what are you on about?
@@skynight4540 even in that fight he barely used it once and it wasn't even that helpful in that fight in ep 76
@@theoldestdream27 he was clapping both reiner and porco with it 💀, it's the only reason he was able to fight them at the same time. If it wasnt for cart, both of them would have died. Not saying this theory is not possible, but to say it's gonna happen because the power didnt have a "pay off" is pretty whack when hes alridi used it in the main battle 😂.
@@skynight4540 he only defended himself using war hammer once and then he attaced back at them once, other than that he was clearly using his skills.
Love the war hammer Titan crystal theory. However, the part with historia’s baby inheriting Zeke’s titan or any Titan doesn’t fit with Eren’s goal. He doesn’t want to continue the cycle of abuse by having the royal family pass down the Titan powers. He was extremely against having Historia inherit the beast Titan so why would he be ok with an innocent baby taking on that role?
Wow didn’t think of that!
he will wipe out titan power so his child won't have titan power anymore
@@theoldestdream27 Correct as the founder he has the ability to do that even if the baby inherits the power.
@@ElChuy0912 HOWWWW? we haven't seen that he had the power to eliminate the titan power altogether. We know this because HE DIDNT let the power go ...Ymir did. We are jumping to huge conclusions here. Furthermore, he doesn't want to order ymir around. That takes away from his talk with her to begin with! "You're not a slave or a god...jk your my slave follow my commands and eliminate the titan power altogether". I cannot see eren being able to do this at all ...he doesn't have the reigns ultimately in a lot of "why doesn't he do this " theory because none of that has been confirmed. We don't know the limits of Ymir's power in this circumstance. So no this goes against his character.
@@joshholleran9005 not so sure about that man but either way we shall see. If you read the manga you’d know that certain people became titans and reverted back. He deff has the ability.
a theme of the story is that war never ends. so a lack of AOE and paradis eventually falling (as every country has and will even irl) is the ending that fits the series
Yes! I'm not against an AoE in theory, but imo any ending that solves anything (both "genocide happens paradis happy!" and "genocide doesn't happen people cooperate!") is gonna go against the message of the series.
@@joaoassumpcao3347 Don't get me wrong, the series has set up alternate timelines, there are clues that the anime is a world separate from what we see in the manga. All of that is inarguable. Will we get an ending beyond 139 and the extra pages? I think so. Even the highschool timeline is canon to the series as one of it's alternate worlds. The OVA set Mikasa up as having the ability to exist amongst these worlds, but will Eren's powers allow him to see these and act on his on will? That would also fit the series. When Levi asked "Will you depend on your friends, or act as you will" And the manga he clearly let go and allowed his friends to take control. But I am really hoping the anime explores what happens when he decides to act for himself the way he did in the crystal cavern.
War Hammer theory makes too much sense. And I definitely want divergence point to be this way, it will be great plot twist and If it really happens then it will leave everyone speechless.
Don't forget we have proof for this theory. When Eren transformed in founding titan, his transformation was little different from manga. He transformed from the feet up like war hammer did with war hammer sound. And then light came through ground.
Didnt he in the manga transformed just like the anime?
@@xhulio4124 no he didn't transform like that in manga, in Anime you can see his titan transforming upside down except his titan head and war hammer sound was played. I recommend watching ZeroKay's video about this.
The light came into a straight line in the anime too. across the ground. no one is talking about it. even though the lighting should go around all of the walls.
I m just trying to imagine the scene when mikasaenters eren's mouth, but eren is not there and the music theme starts playing.
and we see eren underneath all the way from paradis👀
I don't see this scene being tackle, but there is a WEIRD Anime scene when the Rumbling is happening and the Mindless Titan created by Zeke where killing Paradise Soldiers and Jean says
"why are there killing our men? can Eren can't control does Titans?"
It's a bit weird for it to have that scene and dialogue, BUT what if Eren is actually controlling those Titans? And those Titans are just causing damage to that location to HIDE the crystal and the cord that's Eren is in?? 😮
Bro true ig
Blud did participate in school
Maybe Eren already planned it out, and thats why he even got the war hammer titan. There were other titans but he took Warhammer bcz he wanted backup if anything goes wrong.
I think the only way that could happen is that mikasa goes into erens mouth for the kill and he's not there and we see himself underneath in paradis then rip mikasa and alliance
As much as a Chad Eren has become, just touching Historia gave him major trauma. No way he fathers a kid with her.
TBH i m also excited for AOE but as the time passed i have grown on manga ending but i want them to add extra detail even if they follow manga ending
This would be perfect
What you gonna do if there isn’t AOE though?
I wanted AOE but if Mappa didn’t like the idea then they could least flesh out the ending if that’s the case
people forget that the power of warhammer titan is not only that but can make anything from hardening that's why eren was able to break out of prison and also the big battle at the end with eren summoning beast titan and other previous titan shifter was from warhammer titan powers.
watch part 3 cour 1, you can see that Eren summons the beast titan with the power of warhammer titan (hardening) and also the beast titan throws a hardening stone on the plane, the color of the beast titan is white like hardening so yeah that's the power of warhammer.
the point is warhammer titan power is not underused in fact its overused and OP.
8:51 it will still make sense if he dies , imagine if he is actually just thinking about the whole shit that happened since day one while he is in the verge of dying
Are things like Eren’s ability to spawn previous titans or the way Zeke is connected to him NOT a result of Eren using the Warhammer’s power in combination with the power of the founder? I’ve always interpreted it that way so while yes I wish the Warhammer got more screen time, this all made sense to me.
Even if I clicked the video mainly because of AOT/AOE, I have to say a thousand thanks for the music of Anville Town. :D
Is this Theory is dead cuz I Anime Part 3.1 Eren seem like not use that Power as same as Manga ?
With the most recent leaks and trailer is this theory still even possible? Tbh I like the theory alot but thinking of it the founding titan moving across the world with essentially a ball dangling didn't seem plausible lol. It seems fit for a stationaryish battle but it's a cool concept and would have made sense to be used
Compared to the size of the founder titan u wouldn't even notice that string connecting to thr warhammer crystal
@Danyal Alom true it would be odd but the thing is can that string go from paradise to Marley? If so then sure if not then I guess he can be some where else or something
What about erens head being severed? How is the length of his founding titan gained if not due to the distance between his head and the rest of his body?
Yea I agree. It just makes too much sense to have AOE with changes from 137 than them to mess up the whole show..
Im anime only but since season 4 aired I always thought it would be cool for willy tybur was the true war hammer and just shared power with his sister and when he was eaten by eren he escaped since erens kept fleeing his body and transforming again
This is a million times better than the ending what we got
Hmm the theory does seem to make sense! If only that was happening!
so how would there be 2 erins, we already saw his head get blowin off
SPOILERS:
Also guys guys...PLEASE REMEMBER...the point of the ending that we got in the manga (partially) is because it was the only path that would lead to the titan power (ie Ymir's curse, eating offspring to pass titan power) IS GONE. forget the extra pages and just focus on the fact that we know (even with the pages) that titan powers are gone and haven't come back. HOW can we get this if Eren finishes the rumbling? That's my biggest hold up with some of these theories because even if eren succeeded. Paradise is still fucked by its own curse and having to do what the original government behind the walls did forever until the race dies out or just goes back to how it was. It's actually a really big deal that the titan powers don't exist at the end.
*Like how TF they can connect ch1 dream because in anime eren got a totally different dream in episode 1 and i think people will hate ending if alliances di€d!* 🤣💀
God please spare us on witnessing the animated version of SIMP Eren
@@Spantzcatdog me too
@@Spantzcatdog yes that is much better
@@Spantzcatdog that scene made me laugh that better not get animated☠️
Ooo levi killing the dummy titans
Really a better ending
I feel like it’s better for Annie and Reiner to kill their titanized parents considering that will just subvert their whole reason for doing the things they did. That will make the tension higher and bring back that raw moral dilemma of AoT. It will kind of complete their character arc, especially Annie’s. Plus, it’d be like karma to Annie who in the end did not face any in the manga which I don’t think is right.
If aoe does happen i’m very interested in how Eren will be portrayed considering that kid eren is still being animated, although if i remember right didn’t he use the war hammer and founding titan to create the past titan and why the beast titan was white.I’ll forever stand by the fact that i don’t like the eren is the father idea (not because i’m an eremika fan)
Why then if you're not a shipper
This is major copium
I got one question kind gentleman who do you think you should share of the Titan that’s my question
i didnt like the battle of heaven and earth idk it just seemed like isayama couldnt fond a way for the alliance to fight eren so he just brought old titans back idk
that's what I thought man like let those characters stay dead
Yeah feeling regret was the best way for Eren to end as a effect character
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Finally you are making sence
I am subscribing
This theory is insane, damn. If only it would be like that irl anime
My only doubt is about anime only,like how can the aoe connect all the timelines while also not confusing people who haven't read the manga?
THE FOUNDING TITAN FORMED FEET UP TOO
There are 2 problems with the child:
1) it's not of Eren's and Historia's characters to use their baby to save paradis + the first free from titans child born into this world makes much more sense
2) ymir can't be reborn into their daughter if zeke is killed and his power is passed to her but the rumbling is still not finished + zeke died at sunset and the genocide ended then too, but "call of silence" has one interesting line "you will know you're reborn tonight". Ymir must be reborn at night
So, I guess, in the anime, mikasa might see her memories and remember eren is in the mouth of the attack titan. Then she jumps in there just like in the manga and sees no one in it. After that, yeager brings her (shocked) to paths where tells her everything and explains why she must be dead. She dies, the alliance members too (or the majority of them), eren accomplishes everything at night, comes to historia at sunrise, takes his child and says "You are free!" Akatsuki no requiem... You feel me?
Bro this is great theory as well, I don't mind if it happens this way
@@theoldestdream27 sis*)
@@Spantzcatdog OK toxic fujoshi
@@Spantzcatdog disgusting human
@@Spantzcatdog keep spamming, TH-cam is doing very good job in hiding your toxic comments
All of this makes a lot of sense but what wouldn't make sense is the entire alliance dying. For me, it wouldn't nake much sense for them to all to die if only eren survives. I dont think much people would want that.
the pokemon music is so distracting (in a good way)
Blame my right hand man
a great video, a perfect ending and Mikasa 's surprise when she got into the head of the colossus that there is no one there under the good depressing music is fine , her strength to live disappears and she lies as in the cover of under the tree
The best part about war-hammer theory is that
It also makes the see you later scene more sence as you pointed out in the video
It also makes the Akatsuki no requiem theory
Already debinked...
do you think maybe when the bird approaches armin in ch.131 eren will show armin whatever the hell is going on with mikasa and the timeloop and armin could possibly be the one to convinve mikasa somehow to just let go idk
Just went elbow deep into spoilers lol. Quickly turned the video off.
Been tough trying to avoid anime spoilers..
Arveus has always been the real harbinger of hope to the Chads of hopefulness. Hope his legacy lives on
Welp... 🤷
I don´t think there will be a AOE. The primary audience for any Manga is Japanese people and as far as I know (I might be wrong) they are pretty okay with the ending. So why should studio mappa and Isayama pay attention to some Reddit guys and western audiences, who some of them complain about CGI, pacing, not having fucking "youseebiggirl" in a stupid transformation, and even going so far as to harass the voice actor of Gabi? Imo we are merely guests and have no right to demand anything from this anime or any other.
On another note. To cause the rumbling Eren needs to touch a royal titan shifter. That's why he needs Zeke alive. That's why Historia has a child to extend the duration before inheriting the beast titan, which crosses the plans of the paradise government. And why does Eren needs explicitly to touch Historias child if he could just touch Historia instead?
I might be wrong but I see no reason to change the ending.
I don't like the AOE theory but you missed the point
Eren can only control the founding titan if he touches a shifter. Historia is NOT a shifter
If Zeke dies without getting eaten, the shifter power goes to an Eldian who hasn't been born yet... And that would be Historia's baby
@@zekie106 in my second paragraph I said Eren needs to touch a royal blood titan shifter. That is by meaning excluding Historia. At that point I forgot about the „if a titan shifter dies, a random baby will inherit it’s power“
The Historia touching was just a example because in the video I didn’t notice him mentioning a royal blood titan shifter is needed but just „touching the child“ (weird topic)
To me it would still feel off. Why not just taking away the power of the other titan shifters in the first place like Reiner said. Eren became a maniac now who likes to give people hope and takes it away in the last moment?
Thought this was my crazy ass theory of eren using the warhammer titan to still live after mikasa chopped his head off by being in a whole different place
See I told you Mikasa was the wrong choice
So delusional
Sorry but these alternate endings defeat the ENTIRE purpose of the story that was told. All for a more tragic dark end. Makes no sense.
Interesting theory. But I highly doubt such a popular anime would go to the route of interlocking timelines with their manga counterparts
Too many people wouldn't understand and it just won't be profitable imo
To be fair and I've mentioned this on other videos if it does happen it's going to get out the Anime ended differently and people will go read the Manga (those who havent) and people will pick up the anime (those who dropped it) because the idea of them changing the ending or having different timeliness sounds "unique" but that's my opinion.
it does not make sense to me, for people to take basis of an game isa played years ago and treat it like a cannon fact. Sorry, but at this point it all just sounds like a delusion
It makes sense to me. Only cause Isayama took so many plot points from the game. Even the mangas ending is taken from Muv Luv.
I reccomend taking a look at Muv Luvs synopsis if you dont believe me. Or not, it is your opinion
It won't make sense to you if you don't have enough knowledge about it. Isayama said that he ripped off aot from Muv-Luv. Isayama literally copied so many things from Muv-Luv, even dialogues.
@@ThatAsianGuy68 yea you are right. I totally forgot that aliens were true villans of the aot Universe
@@the-leso-jd172 no, its people like you lol
You are clearly the one being delusional. You are literally being ignorant to the facts that people already pointed out. Remember how 80% of the world population got wiped out in aot? The exact same number happened in muv luve. 80% of the world population died. Coincidence? I think not. How the series began and end? Are you also gonna ignore the fact that Isayama himself said he basically copied muv luv when making aot? Stop typing when you havent even done any research at all and act like you actually know something about this. It just make you seem like a total clown.
Oh I just find out a thing .
In this theory that makes sense he said eren is the father of historia's child and in the s4 p2 opening 20 sec in the video he says " All he ever wanted to do is the right thing never wanted to be the king " oh F* historia is the queen of paradise and if eren is the father of her child it makes sense he is the king . 🥶
Hey Bro do you know Rachel Aaron the author of the first official aot novel she had some really interesting things to say.. regarding her time with kodancha and Isayama to the point to where she wanted to add Erwin to her novel but they said no because of a “reason”and kodancha even saying that it was for the “Manga timeline” I shit you not kodancha referred to the manga as manga timeline I got links to the Reddit post of all the questions she answered it’s fucking crazy! Even make a video on it
first :)
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Wait, you guys actually still think we’re getting an AOE? I thought y’all were just joking …
I still believe
He doesn't have to kill the CringeAvengers, he could use the Founder and the Warhammer to make a birdcage around fort Salta.
I would be like ten thousand times happier if they didn't put Grisha and Krueger there. Them helping the cringeavengers makes ABSOLUTELY no fucking sense. It's almost as big a character assassination as Eren was.
@@hououinkyouma3864 That was so painful I thought I was reading a parody.
@@BrotherCaptain36
I honestly can't believe it how no one even mentions this.
@@BrotherCaptain36 How so? Grisha already saw from his future memories what Eren wanted to do was horrible.
EDIT HOLY SHIT SHE INHERITS ZEKES TITAN OOHGOOMGGMFGMFGMFG 10/10 THEORY THAT SHIT WOULD BE SOCOOL
wait, eren has to touch a TITANSHIFTER with royal blood. it didnt work with historia or dina, he only got a sliver of the power activated the first and only the first time they touched, not after that. something similar might happen with historia's baby, but it would just be the first time/something small like seeing memories, not bewing able to utilize the founder like he was able to with zeke who was a titanshifter.
am i wrong about this?
If the baby inherits Zeke's titan, then he's a titan shifter
So he'll still get the full effevts
I quite like this theory, it has been known for a long time. My only issue is with Paradis: will it become a good place or not? And this point is one that fans don't care too much about.
I really don't like the idea of Eren causing genocide and having all the people of Paradis glorify him, and still have the Yeagerist in power, all of this then lead to a peaceful Paradis. It's a very, very bad message, that doesn't make any sense, and it wouldn't be any different from the ending we had that glorifies the genocide that Eren did, it would be even worse in fact.
If they are going to follow this theory, Paradis needs to decay and become hell after everything that has been done, because having Yeagerist (clearly fascists) and a people who easily accept crimes and violence, would not generate a peaceful nation.
Why do people think that Yeagerists are only fascist? Did you not watch episode where Samuel and Daz got killed? They couldn't even shot once while connie literally shot him three times.
@@theoldestdream27 I didn't understand what you meant. Did you mean that Connie is a fascist because he shot three times? or that Samuel and Daz didn't want to shoot so they weren't fascists? Because none of these make sense.
idk we'll see but yeah even if eren completes the rumbling sooner or later what happened between the world and eldians will happen between eldians and themselves
The Yeagerists aren't fascist. These kids and their Google definitions...
Fascism is state control of the economy. Which Historia participated in, as did the previous monarchs.
Bad message? How is it a bad message to see the results of war? This isn't Disney, we don't need 'talk no jitsu' or 'and everyone didn't live happily ever after because they killed innocent people' subtitles.
@@captain_clean Fascism is not just about economics.
And what do you mean by Disney and war results? Look into our history and see if any fascist nation with a genocidal leader managed to become a peaceful nation, that's the war results. It is literally impossible for a nation with the social and political characteristics of Paradis in the hands of Eren and the Yeagerist to succeed.
The best AOE would be when mikasa cuts off erens head in chapter 138 I think it cuts to our heros waking up in shinganchina and they realized everything from when eren first transformed into his Godzilla titan tell now they were asleep and missed the chance to stop the rumbling…
This way eren kills all the people outside of paradise and his friends live long happy lives and he technically wouldn’t be taking there freedom he just took the chance to stop him away but they at least know what they would’ve done so eren can be like don’t feel to bad you would’ve got me if I let you 😂
Also no timeline resets… no those theory’s are dumb
When Mikasa says "he's in the mouth" in the anime. Eren gonna be holding his baby on Paradis like in the Season 2 intro. Hopefully, they do it right.
Every kind of aoe would be shit no matter what 🙃
Lol the entire "final arc" was trash except 130 and 131 that too just Eren scenes not trash armong and Annie shit which ruined 131