Lesson learned here. The player should be in charge and involved in negotiations that effect his life. Not delegating these issues to an agent. Remember, the agent takes a cut of the contract. The cut was bigger from the LA deal and that’s what was driving the agent.
I've never seen a pro player so emotionally broken from changing teams. Plus he got a bad contract. He does have good friends on the Dodgers, and has more money than he can spend in a lifetime. He'll be ok.
Chipper Jones was accurate when he went on a radio show in March. The agents are supposed to do what the player wants - not the other way around. 10 years from now Freeman won't be upset that the move meant his career earnings were $320M vs $335M, because he won't spend it all anyways. But, he clearly has some regret letting his agents wag the dog, or try to, and it not working out the way he'd hoped. I think the Braves are happy to have Olson, because he's been really good for them, and long-term it allows them to fill a need later. Considering how well Freeman has been hitting the last 10 games, it sure hasn't hampered his on field performance. But, I do see the possibility of Freeman going back to Atlanta once his Dodgers contract is done to finish out the last 2-3 years of his career.
His agent got a huge % of his $ from the dodgers deal. So…. Who was the agent pushing for and holding hostage? I agree with Freddie. His agents screwed him out of what he ultimately wanted. I think once the facts came out, Freddie’s pissed.
@@BeefPapa so, you're guaranteeing that at 38 years old Freeman won't be able to find a team to sign him to a 2 year contract to split time at DH and 1B, for his age 38 and 39 seasons? He is going to age much better than Cabrera and Pujols. Or even Nelson Cruz who is still hitting at 40. This isn't saying he's going to make $27M a year when he does reach that age. But, I doubt he'll be "done" at the end of his 6 yr deal with the Dodgers
As a Dodgers fan, I love Freddie Freeman when he was an Atlanta Braves legend. To me, some one fucked up,the Braves,the agent,or Freeman himself. This guy should have been a Braves player for life, gonna into the Hall of Fame as a Braves player. It clearly showed this past weekend he didn't want to leave the ATL. I'm not mad at him. I am glad he is in a Dodgers uniform,this guy can flat out hit! One hell of a player! All these emotions will pass as time goes on. Definitely a class act,glad he's here. The Atlanta Braves in the we long run will be the ones who will lose out in all of this, let a hall of famer walk. Horrible decision.
You guys do know teams don't have to sign 1 full year to have him back after contract is over. Look at what Yankees did for Hideki Matsui. They signed him under 1 day contract just to have him retire as a Yankee. I'm sure Braves can do that if they want to. But as a Dodgers fan, our goal is to win more titles that Freddie won't regret moving here!!!!!😁 Thank you Atlanta Braves. Make sure your Excel agent screw up with Dansby Swanson too in case we can't extend Trea Turner. We'll get Swanson also and reunite him with Freddie Freeman!!!!!
Agents keep telling players that they have to get the most money they can. Forget about their happiness or their family's well-being. The agents say that every future player will benefit if you get more money right now. The agents also conveniently omit the fact that the agent's compensation is a percentage of the player's contract. Before Jered Weaver signed his last Angels contract (a mid-season extension), he told his agent Scott Boras to "get me the best deal you can get with the Angels" because he enjoyed playing for the Angels and his family enjoyed living in SoCal. Boras was not pleased, but Angels fans gave Weaver a standiing ovation before his next start.
As a Dodgers fan , i get it he saw himslef an Atlanta Brave his whole career. I would be upset if he wasn't performing but he's hitting over 300 his power is a bit down but he's still really good. Freddie's working through some stuff he'll be fine eventually.
who cares how Dodgers fans and players feel about what's going in with Freeman. He's hitting for you, he's a true pro and he's going to win you a lot of games. If you're worried about being 2nd fiddle, I got news for you, Freddie made it clear all along he wanted to be a Brave, you're going to be 2nd fiddle, you think when Freeman goes into the hall, he's going in as a Dodger? They need to grow up, accept he'd rather be with the Braves, he loves the city, the fans, but he's yours now and he's a great player enjoy him while he's raking and don't worry about him wearing the Braves jersey underneath his Dodgers jersey like Bobby Rayburn.
For those missing the recent context: it has since come out (no idea if it's true, but Freddie Freeman doesn't seem like the kind of guy to lie about this) that apparently Freddie's agent did *not* tell him about the Braves final offer during free agency, an offer it seems like he would've taken. He only found this out on this most recent roadtrip while visiting the Braves, implying someone in management told him of the offer and he wasn't aware of it until now. If this is true, man oh man is this a juicy story. No longer a story of regret on Freeman's part, but a story of lies and betrayal. Sounds like the makings of a great 30 for 30.
The Dodgers wanted him, the Dodger fans wanted him and quite honestly Freddie wanted a change. I get it. I've been there. It doesn't matter if the Dodger fans show up late and leave early to games. Freddie wanted that extra year in his contract and he got it with the Dodgers. He'll be a big part of the Dodger success this year, amongst other players and it'll all be forgotten, trust me. So what if Freddie has a tender heart. A lot of people do and crying can be a result of that. I'm excited to see just how far the Dodgers go this year. Watch with me and be amazed!!!
As a Dodger fan I was so thrilled about acquiring Freeman, I chanted “Freeman”, like every fan at the game. I feel for him because something clearly went wrong, but now I’m annoyed. Please let him go back to his beloved team after this season, he will never be happy as a Dodger and if he is going to cry every time the Braves come to town. It’s clear to me he doesn’t want to be a Dodger.
No player should have to go through that epsecially a good person such as freddie. It just sucks how he has had his whole career in Atlanta and now it's ruined forever.
Dan didn’t exactly explain the acquisition of Olson very well. It costs the Braves 4 prospects and Olson had a contract already. The Braves GM just decided to sign Olson long term after the trade knowing Freeman held firm. This costs the Braves in a big way, but AlexA simply protected the franchise as he should. Well done Braves and bye bye marginal HOF for Freddy.
He lives on the beach in Malibu, has all his family that lives down the road pretty much, is on one of the best baseball teams and has hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. Poor guy‘s got a rough! But I think he’s gonna pull through this one.
Here's why I believe the Gottlieb story - IF there was no final offer and the Braves were happy to move on from Freddie and get a younger 1B, nobody in the organization has any reason to discredit Casey Close or to engage Freddie about what happened since they got everything they wanted and the uproar about his departure had died down to a simmer. But if there was an offer and they expected Freddie to take it, that's why someone from the organization asked him about it when the Dodgers were in town, because everyone remained baffled as to why he didn't take it. My hunch is that his agency had marketing opportunities they figured would be much more lucrative for Freddie (and by extension them) as a Dodger than as a Brave; they knew he'd take the final offer that has been at the center of the discussion, so they figured they were doing the best thing for him by not telling him and they were rolling the dice that he'd be so happy once he was out of Atlanta (overestimating his desire to get back to the west coast) that it would never be an issue and they were going to dazzle him with endorsements. I also think this matches Freddie's experience during negotiation, i.e. that they'd been hard-selling LA since the end of the Series. Freddie talked to somebody in the organization, added it to his experience and determined he'd been pushed out of the place he wanted to stay despite getting the offer he wanted.
Before he signed Freddie's wife was posting L.A. Dodgers pics online so..........but Freddie's heart is still in the ATL. In the end, this is a business.
So I guess you proved the point of why he'd rather of stayed in Atlanta. To a Dodger fan he is a paid gun, this seasons shinny object, but you'll throw him away the minute he slumps, you get a new shinny toy (Mike Trout?) or doesn't say what you want to hear. He'd have rather stayed where the fandom would love him to his baseball grave. And his loss is final, because the Braves did what the Braves do and found a way with 100 million less on a payroll...
Seems like the dodgers and Freeman’s agency screwed Freeman. He’s firing his agency. MLB is to blame too for letting this happen. Freeman should’ve never played one game for anyone other than Atlanta.
@@jamesgarner5946 The dodgers make the playoffs every single year with one of the best farm systems and tons of money… why would they need to collude for anyone?
Chipper jones came on a pod cast of some sorts and gave a little insight. Freddie didn’t think the braves would move on and chipper warned him it’s dangerous territory to tread in to “watch out” just look up chipper jones talks about Freddie trade and you’ll hear it kinda gives a different story on things
Here’s the difference. Freeman’s agent should been honest and said he could taken 23.5 a year compared to 27 million a year in LA and he would’ve made around the same amount after taxes.
I’m a dodgers fan and every time I see Freddie in an LA uniform it just looks like he’s not happy. I fully believe he’s a man of his word and will honor his contract but it’s clear his heart isn’t in LA
Dan Patrick just compared Freddie Freeman to Dale Murphy. It makes me sick how the media has no idea of the temperature of the Atlanta Braves. Freddie Freeman is a hall-of-famer and one of the greatest braves of all time no disrespect to Dale Murphy. He's with a straight face speaking as if Freddie Freeman is not already in the HOF.
He's better than Dale, and I loved Murphy. Freddie is a .300 hitter, and an RBI machine. There is a similarity to Chipper though, but Chipper had a bit more power. Freddie will be in the Hall if he stays on his current path.
It’s become pretty obvious Freddie’s agent was only representing himself. His compensation was tied to whatever deal he got for Freddie, so he was trying to maximize the money Freddie got, which was not Freddie’s priority.
Its up to the player if he wants to play for a certain team he has to tell his agent to get a deal done or he needs to step in and talk to the GM himself.
Atlanta Braves fans aren't just from Atlanta. They're from Atlanta but even moreso they're from Georgia, Alabama the Carolina's, North Florida and all over the south. Braves fans are simply fans. And many, if not most, are much more empathetic with Freddy and would love to welcome him back ... IF ... that opportunity should ever present itself. I don't think it will.
To me this whole situation smells of agents telling the players let me take care of this and players saying okay. Players need to be more involved with there negotiations. The deferred pay of 57 million is huge in that he will be paid 5 million a year beyond his playing years making Bonilla's deal pennies in comparison.
His agent made the mistake thinking he could get more money out of atlanta. Freeman was probably willing to take a pay cut but his agent is greedy and made the mistake of thinking he had leverage. Meanwhile the braves had their sights on matt olson that could have likely been traded somewhere else
He's Rich he's still young age he has good health beautiful wife kids etc... and he plays for the Dodgers in sunny LA! He'll be fine! LA over ATL any day!
I will... Dodgers History or Braves History? Who have a better one ? DODGERS! Live in LA or Live in Atlanta ? Even though Atlanta does have some sexy females..lol...but LA has them all.. plus look at freeman numbers this year compared to the guy who replaced him? Freeman numbers are better! Probably gonna Be an All star! So yeah LA all day!
@Fit Guy It's no use. Arguing for a world outside of LA or NYC to these people is worthless. They have no idea why people are happy living in Iowa, or Alabama, or Atlanta... They think they sit on the top and everyone else is below them. It's why the rest of us must just shake our heads and not bother. Its pride and ignorance at all the way through.
@@tacotom3492 stop being a to*l. you can clearly hear by freeman's emotions that $$ didn't matter his heart belongs in ATL and his agent F**k him over. plus the amount tax he pays in LA, the ATL offer is actually is better in a long run.
These players need to be more involved in what their agent is doing. Boros is a well known jerk and thought he could put a gun in the back of the Braves and fatten his wallet. Why? Because after the WS win everyone was saying that the Braves HAD to keep Freeman. How could they let "the face of the franchise" go after the WS? So Boros gave the Braves a ridiculous number and a deadline/ultimatum. The Braves did what any good management team would do, they said fine, we'll find someone else and Anthopolos did a great job of that with hometown kid Olsen. Freeman via Boros really blew this big time and it showed that he knew it in his interview (and when he finally fired that tool). He left for really no more money than the Braves left on the table, but more importantly (and why he is crying), he could have finished his career in ATL and been on the same pedestal in ATL as Dale Murphy and Chipper Jones. He would have "owned" ATL had he stayed. He would have been a "forever" idol in ATL. Now ATL fans will view him as just another money grubbing jerk, he's no longer an idol in ATL, and will NEVER be an idol in LA. He's just another great player on a team FILLED with hired guns. If his production ever falls off they will toss him to the curb. That never would have happened had he stayed in ATL. So he essentially went from "hero" to "zero".
if the agent can get there client an extra 3.5million, then that becomes an extra $500,000 to go to the agent. Agents really care about the final price.
If it weren't for that deal that could've worked out after the World Series, Freddie Freeman would've stayed with the Atlanta Braves instead of going out to the Dodgers
He grew up in So. Cal. But So. Cal ain't nearly as nice as he remembers it growing up, it's actually pretty shitty place (overpopulated, expensive, full of narcisstic a holes). Sometimes happiness is absolutely worth sacrificing for a few more $$$$. He was gonna be filthy rich either way, he knows he blew it by holding out for too much $$ in Atlanta. Matt Olsen is super happy he held out since the Braves signed him instead. I don't think the Braves have missed Freeman at all.
It's just a communication breakdown....X 320 million. I understand the other, very intriguing side of it here - that being that Freddie fired his agent because he failed to notify FF of the Braves final offer; thus leading him to believe that they weren't really interested in him...Thus he signs for $335m in LA rather than the $320m in Atlanta. So, if it was the agent steering the ship here, then what was his incentive for going after the LA deal? Sure, it is a bit more money (for Freddie), but was it really worth the agent doing something as unethical and dishonest as deceiving Freeman by hiding the ATL final offer? I love FF, but I have a hard time believing it...Unless there is some kind of incentive or bonus driving the agent to shut the door on ATL for freddie.
It won't be more money for Freeman. He's gonna get 5 million a year until 2039. Long after his career is over. And taxes are gonna eat him alive. His agent got paid right off the top.
@@randyposs6281 …could’ve, should’ve, whatever…the point is the Braves let him go !!! Get over it!!! He’s a great baseball player no matter what team he plays with, but at the end of the day, the Braves let him go.
Freddie shouldn't regret. the majority of the fans still love him...that includes a die-hard fan like me. he won us a ring...after decades of wallowing in failure. #ForeverBrave
This feels like MLB meets “The Notebook” and Freddie is Allie and just discovered her letters from Noah after they were hidden by her mother. What’s next? Freddie announces ”If you’re a Brave, I’m a Brave”? Oh, the drama
When you do the math, because of the California state income tax and the Georgia state income tax, Freeman would have made the same at the end of the year.
Dan, first I must say I love you since your days here in Atlanta at 96 Rock. My brother and I would always catch you daily on our way to the golf course where we worked and played. It seems you've missed the crux of the story which is Freddy's agent did not represent him with Freddy's interest in mind. He did not communicate Atlanta's last offer to Friday which was less than LA's. The agent also issued a 1 hour ultimatum to the Braves. After the hour past the deals were taken off the table. The Braves made their move to replace Freddy and Freddy signed with the Dodgers for a higher amount of money but with deferred payments which would be eaten alive by taxes and Freddy would ultimately end up making less with the Dodgers then he would have with the Braves. Apparently the agent did not communicate this to Freddy because the agent cut comes off the top, would make more money signing with the Dodgers then had Freddie signed with the Braves. And that is why Freddy fired his agent, after hearing it from someone in the Braves organization.
I think you hit the nail on the head.....I think Freeman's agent was sugar coating some stuff and glassed over some mistakes that his agent made at the time that maybe Freeman didnt know about until he came back from ATL... I think at the time Freeman was in shock and probably upset with ATL front office for moving on to Olson so he was closed minded. Time has passed, allowed him to open up and allowed him to hear the other side...I think he probably heard some things from his buddies in the ORG that ding that light bulb that helped him understand the other side of the story...I think until he came to ATL for this series he only knew what his agent was telling him....now he has had a sit down possibly some "over a beer" conversations it painted a much different picture.
I don't feel sorry for Freddie Freeman at all. He had been with the Braves for 12 years. He could have called the Braves front office and found out what the issues were and worked them out himself.
Freddie can't hold Chipper Jones jockstrap. Freddie can cry all he wants, he went months without talking to his manager or GM, quit with the pity party. Freddie either was ready to leave and didn't want to be the bad guy or he's incredibly stupid.
You can be happy or content with your new place, but also pissed off how your representation handled the offseason with a group you cared about. LA fans have no reason to complain about how this is transpiring, hes your second best hitter and one of the top hitters by average in the league - yet hes being questioned by a team leader who has an abysmal october ERA. This isnt a question of his effort. Again, he can be happy there, but also disgusted how this all went down.
Hey Freddie, did you hear your Atlanta fans cheering when you struck out? Seems everyone has moved on except you. It is a huge privilege to play for the Dodgers. I was going to say be brave but you might start crying again.
@Lordeverfall100 there was littarly a multi minute video and cheers. 10 is a exaggeration but to act live braves fan dont love him still is factually wrong
It's obvious that Atlanta Braves fans love Freddie but it's also obvious that Atlanta Braves Management didn't. Think of it like you are his new girlfriend but he keeps crying and talking about his old girlfriend. What do you expect his new girlfriend reactions going to be. It's not rocket science.
Apparently it was discovered that last weekend in Atlanta that the agent withheld info of the final offer which was 5 years, $140 mil. Somewhere there was a huge disconnect. Now Freeman is one unhappy man. He bears responsibility also. He gambled and lost.
How did he lose ? He lives in LA sunny LA ..he's rich ...got a good contract with the Dodger..is on a better team..and playing better than the guy who replaced him! Look at the numbers.. Dodger LA all Day
@@thecrock05 So say you Jonny. Amy reasonable person can look at the man and see that he's miserable. He's not thinking about sunny LA, money or his "better team."
He's miserable how ? Because he cried? Smh....trust me I see dodgers play alot! He's always smiling! He has his father at dodger stadium alot ! Along with his wife and kids..smh...fucking guy can't accept He's doing better than the guy braves traded for...lol..while freeman is succeeding in LA
@@thecrock05 Don't care. Freddie is usually smiling anyway. But was he last weekend? NO! His actions spoke volumes. Apparently everyone except you could see and feel the outpouring of emotions, the regret, pain and hurt. Or you're offended because you know he prefers to be in Atlanta. Why you taking it so personally and getting ticked off and using foul language? Go to the beach or something and relax.
Gee whiz freeman is making a mockery of himself not only that im sure the dodgers are just thrilled at their first baseman crying on national tv because hes no longer with braves. Hes fucking up for sure
Any commentary on him not being happy being a Dodger is commentary. Freddie hasn't said he's unhappy being a Dodger. You can loss something valuable without being unhappy with what you have. I think, if he wasn't a Brave, the next best thing for him was a Dodger, but the cost is steep. Retired faces of franchises have wonderful post-baseball lives in the cities that love them. Hell Freddie could have been Governor regardless of the party he ran as. But that is all gone now. He'll be loved, he'll be appreciated, but he won't retire as the face of this franchise. And no money can buy it. The sad thing is, he already had it, so it was taken from him. Be careful people, with whom you surround yourself with. It cost Freddie a portion of his legacy.
I think it's more that it's been found out his agent lied to him about details of how deals.with braves went down. So finding that out probably really hurt him realizing what could.of been
@@bsakoff As a Braves fan, you know that you’d be shooting yourself in the foot by doing that? You gave up prospects, will give up a younger cheaper player on the uprise, will get an older more expensive player in return. There’s no sense but sentimentality in the thinking.
@@jeremiah_12 True. The only way I see this working out for Atl is that Freddie is better than Olson right now. And right now is Atlanta's window to possibly stack titles.
It upsets me that he wanted to be a brave but couldn’t because his dumbass agent miscommunicated and only was looking after himself, that’s why freddie fired him
This is all so weird. As a Dodger fan I totally get his emotional ties to Atlanta but damn. You’re a Dodger bro. You’re near family. You’re on a great team. I get it but it sure makes us Dodger fans feel unappreciated.
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As a Braves fan who's loved Freddie for 12 years, when I seen him cry, I cried too
Lesson learned here. The player should be in charge and involved in negotiations that effect his life. Not delegating these issues to an agent. Remember, the agent takes a cut of the contract. The cut was bigger from the LA deal and that’s what was driving the agent.
I've never seen a pro player so emotionally broken from changing teams. Plus he got a bad contract. He does have good friends on the Dodgers, and has more money than he can spend in a lifetime. He'll be ok.
Watch his E60. The man has been through so many hardships that it makes sense why he reacts to things this way. All empathy for the guy
Lamar Odom might be the only player I can think of.
Kris Bryant comes to mind but not that emotional lol
freddie is from Cali. and has had home there for years
R u serious they make millions, they have more than enough money to live very well for the rest of their life.
Freddie's tears weren't tears of joy... They were tears of regret.
Nah they were tears of milking media attention. Not buying this shit, if the Braves had not won the WS last year there would be no tears.
@@thh1899 that’s hard to believe. He’d still be sad. He was with the braves since ‘08
He’s playing for Dodger fans. That’s why he’s crying.
Chipper Jones was accurate when he went on a radio show in March. The agents are supposed to do what the player wants - not the other way around. 10 years from now Freeman won't be upset that the move meant his career earnings were $320M vs $335M, because he won't spend it all anyways.
But, he clearly has some regret letting his agents wag the dog, or try to, and it not working out the way he'd hoped. I think the Braves are happy to have Olson, because he's been really good for them, and long-term it allows them to fill a need later. Considering how well Freeman has been hitting the last 10 games, it sure hasn't hampered his on field performance. But, I do see the possibility of Freeman going back to Atlanta once his Dodgers contract is done to finish out the last 2-3 years of his career.
He's 32 years old and just starting a six year contract.
His agent got a huge % of his $ from the dodgers deal. So…. Who was the agent pushing for and holding hostage? I agree with Freddie. His agents screwed him out of what he ultimately wanted. I think once the facts came out, Freddie’s pissed.
Freeman won't be a contributing factor if he ever makes it back to the A.
@@BeefPapa so, you're guaranteeing that at 38 years old Freeman won't be able to find a team to sign him to a 2 year contract to split time at DH and 1B, for his age 38 and 39 seasons?
He is going to age much better than Cabrera and Pujols. Or even Nelson Cruz who is still hitting at 40.
This isn't saying he's going to make $27M a year when he does reach that age. But, I doubt he'll be "done" at the end of his 6 yr deal with the Dodgers
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Of course I wouldn't guarantee that. But I wouldn't bet on it. Bat speed just fades. It's inevitable.
As a Dodgers fan, I love Freddie Freeman when he was an Atlanta Braves legend. To me, some one fucked up,the Braves,the agent,or Freeman himself. This guy should have been a Braves player for life, gonna into the Hall of Fame as a Braves player. It clearly showed this past weekend he didn't want to leave the ATL. I'm not mad at him. I am glad he is in a Dodgers uniform,this guy can flat out hit! One hell of a player! All these emotions will pass as time goes on. Definitely a class act,glad he's here. The Atlanta Braves in the we long run will be the ones who will lose out in all of this, let a hall of famer walk. Horrible decision.
Freeman will always be a brave and he will be back and he will retire as a brave. Mark my words
@@TheRouschmustang agreed, he will come back in his last year in MLB and DH
You guys do know teams don't have to sign 1 full year to have him back after contract is over. Look at what Yankees did for Hideki Matsui. They signed him under 1 day contract just to have him retire as a Yankee. I'm sure Braves can do that if they want to. But as a Dodgers fan, our goal is to win more titles that Freddie won't regret moving here!!!!!😁 Thank you Atlanta Braves. Make sure your Excel agent screw up with Dansby Swanson too in case we can't extend Trea Turner. We'll get Swanson also and reunite him with Freddie Freeman!!!!!
You blame the Braves. It was Freddie's greedy agent that caused this. The Braves wanted Freddie but his agent wanted the Dodgers !
@@EdDy4RheelZ keep dreaming !
Freddie was in control. All he had to do was sign the contract. I do see Freeman back with the Braves. I just don't know when.
I am hoping that the Braves will trade Olson for Freddie!
He will go into the Hall Of Fame as an Atlanta Brave.
@@consumervouchers Freddie needs to come back this year.
Agents keep telling players that they have to get the most money they can. Forget about their happiness or their family's well-being. The agents say that every future player will benefit if you get more money right now. The agents also conveniently omit the fact that the agent's compensation is a percentage of the player's contract.
Before Jered Weaver signed his last Angels contract (a mid-season extension), he told his agent Scott Boras to "get me the best deal you can get with the Angels" because he enjoyed playing for the Angels and his family enjoyed living in SoCal. Boras was not pleased, but Angels fans gave Weaver a standiing ovation before his next start.
Bottom line is Freeman doesn't have brains or he doesn't have balls
Freeman should just pull a George Costanza and walk into the Braves locker room like nothing happened.
As a Dodgers fan , i get it he saw himslef an Atlanta Brave his whole career. I would be upset if he wasn't performing but he's hitting over 300 his power is a bit down but he's still really good. Freddie's working through some stuff he'll be fine eventually.
he's a good defensive fb too. tall, lots of reach, good at digging em out of the dirt.
@@Hobodeluxe960 no lie sometimes Gavin or Trea throw some tricky ones
who cares how Dodgers fans and players feel about what's going in with Freeman. He's hitting for you, he's a true pro and he's going to win you a lot of games. If you're worried about being 2nd fiddle, I got news for you, Freddie made it clear all along he wanted to be a Brave, you're going to be 2nd fiddle, you think when Freeman goes into the hall, he's going in as a Dodger? They need to grow up, accept he'd rather be with the Braves, he loves the city, the fans, but he's yours now and he's a great player enjoy him while he's raking and don't worry about him wearing the Braves jersey underneath his Dodgers jersey like Bobby Rayburn.
For those missing the recent context: it has since come out (no idea if it's true, but Freddie Freeman doesn't seem like the kind of guy to lie about this) that apparently Freddie's agent did *not* tell him about the Braves final offer during free agency, an offer it seems like he would've taken. He only found this out on this most recent roadtrip while visiting the Braves, implying someone in management told him of the offer and he wasn't aware of it until now. If this is true, man oh man is this a juicy story. No longer a story of regret on Freeman's part, but a story of lies and betrayal. Sounds like the makings of a great 30 for 30.
The Dodgers wanted him, the Dodger fans wanted him and quite honestly Freddie wanted a change. I get it. I've been there. It doesn't matter if the Dodger fans show up late and leave early to games. Freddie wanted that extra year in his contract and he got it with the Dodgers. He'll be a big part of the Dodger success this year, amongst other players and it'll all be forgotten, trust me. So what if Freddie has a tender heart. A lot of people do and crying can be a result of that. I'm excited to see just how far the Dodgers go this year. Watch with me and be amazed!!!
As a Dodger fan I was so thrilled about acquiring Freeman, I chanted “Freeman”, like every fan at the game.
I feel for him because something clearly went wrong, but now I’m annoyed. Please let him go back to his
beloved team after this season, he will never be happy as a Dodger and if he is going to cry every time the
Braves come to town. It’s clear to me he doesn’t want to be a Dodger.
No player should have to go through that epsecially a good person such as freddie. It just sucks how he has had his whole career in Atlanta and now it's ruined forever.
We like Olson as well though.. lol
Dan didn’t exactly explain the acquisition of Olson very well. It costs the Braves 4 prospects and Olson had a contract already. The Braves GM just decided to sign Olson long term after the trade knowing Freeman held firm. This costs the Braves in a big way, but AlexA simply protected the franchise as he should. Well done Braves and bye bye marginal HOF for Freddy.
All I’m gonna say is he’s a bravo legend and is welcome to come back whenever he wants.
Nope. He didn't listen to his mentor. He will always have a "place", but not a home in ATL. He destroyed his legacy.
@@GTR0419 oh stop he did not
@@jwiese100 OK, I'll take a step back and offer this. He'll still have a legacy, but it could have been bigger.
Freddie doesn't want to sleep over in LA anymore. Can someone call his mom to come to pick him up?
He lives on the beach in Malibu, has all his family that lives down the road pretty much, is on one of the best baseball teams and has hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank.
Poor guy‘s got a rough!
But I think he’s gonna pull through this one.
Not really true. His wife's family is in FL.
Mental health doesn’t care about income though.
Here's why I believe the Gottlieb story - IF there was no final offer and the Braves were happy to move on from Freddie and get a younger 1B, nobody in the organization has any reason to discredit Casey Close or to engage Freddie about what happened since they got everything they wanted and the uproar about his departure had died down to a simmer. But if there was an offer and they expected Freddie to take it, that's why someone from the organization asked him about it when the Dodgers were in town, because everyone remained baffled as to why he didn't take it.
My hunch is that his agency had marketing opportunities they figured would be much more lucrative for Freddie (and by extension them) as a Dodger than as a Brave; they knew he'd take the final offer that has been at the center of the discussion, so they figured they were doing the best thing for him by not telling him and they were rolling the dice that he'd be so happy once he was out of Atlanta (overestimating his desire to get back to the west coast) that it would never be an issue and they were going to dazzle him with endorsements. I also think this matches Freddie's experience during negotiation, i.e. that they'd been hard-selling LA since the end of the Series. Freddie talked to somebody in the organization, added it to his experience and determined he'd been pushed out of the place he wanted to stay despite getting the offer he wanted.
Send him back if they still needed him to make him happier to be at his long time home. Goodbye Freddie .
Proud to be of Dodger’s fan.
Before he signed Freddie's wife was posting L.A. Dodgers pics online so..........but Freddie's heart is still in the ATL. In the end, this is a business.
We dont want him back olsen wanted to be a brave
So I guess you proved the point of why he'd rather of stayed in Atlanta. To a Dodger fan he is a paid gun, this seasons shinny object, but you'll throw him away the minute he slumps, you get a new shinny toy (Mike Trout?) or doesn't say what you want to hear. He'd have rather stayed where the fandom would love him to his baseball grave. And his loss is final, because the Braves did what the Braves do and found a way with 100 million less on a payroll...
Speculation is such a beautiful thing.
Instead of firing his agent he should have asked him to trade him back to for Olson & Acuña Jr. if they really want each other & forever.
acuna for freeman works for me
Seems like the dodgers and Freeman’s agency screwed Freeman. He’s firing his agency. MLB is to blame too for letting this happen. Freeman should’ve never played one game for anyone other than Atlanta.
How the heck did the dodgers screw him?
All they did was offer a contract and he accepted, not their fault
@@111Gtfo I said it seems like his agent and the dodgers colluded to get him to the dodgers. He seems super happy there lol
What the hell was MLB supposed to do meddling in a contract between two adults?
@@jamesgarner5946 The dodgers make the playoffs every single year with one of the best farm systems and tons of money… why would they need to collude for anyone?
when freedie didn't sign last year it showed braves offer was less years
Chipper jones came on a pod cast of some sorts and gave a little insight. Freddie didn’t think the braves would move on and chipper warned him it’s dangerous territory to tread in to “watch out” just look up chipper jones talks about Freddie trade and you’ll hear it kinda gives a different story on things
I will always respect Freddie
It was the perfect storm!,, come back Freddie!, FOLLOW YOUR HEART!!!
Here’s the difference. Freeman’s agent should been honest and said he could taken 23.5 a year compared to 27 million a year in LA and he would’ve made around the same amount after taxes.
Also the dodgers would kinda suck without Freddie now. Atlanta still loves you Freddie no matter! We wish you were really home where you belong
I’m a dodgers fan and every time I see Freddie in an LA uniform it just looks like he’s not happy. I fully believe he’s a man of his word and will honor his contract but it’s clear his heart isn’t in LA
Dan Patrick just compared Freddie Freeman to Dale Murphy. It makes me sick how the media has no idea of the temperature of the Atlanta Braves. Freddie Freeman is a hall-of-famer and one of the greatest braves of all time no disrespect to Dale Murphy. He's with a straight face speaking as if Freddie Freeman is not already in the HOF.
He's better than Dale, and I loved Murphy. Freddie is a .300 hitter, and an RBI machine. There is a similarity to Chipper though, but Chipper had a bit more power. Freddie will be in the Hall if he stays on his current path.
Freeman isn't better than Murphy if Freeman's career were to end this year. That might not be the case when Freeman's career ends.
Players nowadays....ridiculous.
It’s become pretty obvious Freddie’s agent was only representing himself. His compensation was tied to whatever deal he got for Freddie, so he was trying to maximize the money Freddie got, which was not Freddie’s priority.
Its up to the player if he wants to play for a certain team he has to tell his agent to get a deal done or he needs to step in and talk to the GM himself.
Atlanta Braves fans aren't just from Atlanta. They're from Atlanta but even moreso they're from Georgia, Alabama the Carolina's, North Florida and all over the south. Braves fans are simply fans. And many, if not most, are much more empathetic with Freddy and would love to welcome him back ... IF ... that opportunity should ever present itself. I don't think it will.
To me this whole situation smells of agents telling the players let me take care of this and players saying okay. Players need to be more involved with there negotiations. The deferred pay of 57 million is huge in that he will be paid 5 million a year beyond his playing years making Bonilla's deal pennies in comparison.
His agent made the mistake thinking he could get more money out of atlanta. Freeman was probably willing to take a pay cut but his agent is greedy and made the mistake of thinking he had leverage. Meanwhile the braves had their sights on matt olson that could have likely been traded somewhere else
Now it's reported his agent never even told him about Atlanta's final offer. What a dick move. Total money grab.
Braves won this. Freddie is an All time Brave. But a cheaper version that produces the same is a win
Freddie is a future Hall of Famer
He's probably crying because he realized he took a net loss after taxes and the cost of living in L.A. vs ATL
He's rich AF... He wanted to be a Brave and his agent botched it possibly.
Nah. /
You do realizes those taxes are one of the reasons states like California have some of the best healthcare right?
@@Ant-bm1qk also why people are leaving in droves
@@doublepoet7852 that’s a good thing, it’s too crowded anyway so the more people that leave then the better for everyone else.
Sentimental-aspect being set aside .. Braves is better with Olson long term. He is younger and he is cheaper and his talent is on the ascent.
YUP YUP.
He's Rich he's still young age he has good health beautiful wife kids etc... and he plays for the Dodgers in sunny LA! He'll be fine! LA over ATL any day!
I will... Dodgers History or Braves History? Who have a better one ? DODGERS! Live in LA or Live in Atlanta ? Even though Atlanta does have some sexy females..lol...but LA has them all.. plus look at freeman numbers this year compared to the guy who replaced him? Freeman numbers are better! Probably gonna Be an All star! So yeah LA all day!
I will puto
@Fit Guy It's no use. Arguing for a world outside of LA or NYC to these people is worthless. They have no idea why people are happy living in Iowa, or Alabama, or Atlanta... They think they sit on the top and everyone else is below them. It's why the rest of us must just shake our heads and not bother. Its pride and ignorance at all the way through.
Remember this lesson Arron Judge...
What lesson? The lesson of betting on yourself and having an MVP year to get way more $$$.? 🤔✌️
@@tacotom3492 stop being a to*l. you can clearly hear by freeman's emotions that $$ didn't matter his heart belongs in ATL and his agent F**k him over. plus the amount tax he pays in LA, the ATL offer is actually is better in a long run.
@@tacotom3492 it ain't all about money
These players need to be more involved in what their agent is doing. Boros is a well known jerk and thought he could put a gun in the back of the Braves and fatten his wallet. Why? Because after the WS win everyone was saying that the Braves HAD to keep Freeman. How could they let "the face of the franchise" go after the WS? So Boros gave the Braves a ridiculous number and a deadline/ultimatum. The Braves did what any good management team would do, they said fine, we'll find someone else and Anthopolos did a great job of that with hometown kid Olsen.
Freeman via Boros really blew this big time and it showed that he knew it in his interview (and when he finally fired that tool). He left for really no more money than the Braves left on the table, but more importantly (and why he is crying), he could have finished his career in ATL and been on the same pedestal in ATL as Dale Murphy and Chipper Jones. He would have "owned" ATL had he stayed. He would have been a "forever" idol in ATL. Now ATL fans will view him as just another money grubbing jerk, he's no longer an idol in ATL, and will NEVER be an idol in LA. He's just another great player on a team FILLED with hired guns. If his production ever falls off they will toss him to the curb. That never would have happened had he stayed in ATL. So he essentially went from "hero" to "zero".
Freddie Freeman is definitely a hall of famer 🤣 especially in the baseball hall of fame
Maybe
I have been wondering what would happened if we boo'd him instead? Atlanta wouldn't do that tho
It’s like he can not listen to his agent and follow his heart.
if the agent can get there client an extra 3.5million, then that becomes an extra $500,000 to go to the agent. Agents really care about the final price.
You got it.
If it weren't for that deal that could've worked out after the World Series, Freddie Freeman would've stayed with the Atlanta Braves instead of going out to the Dodgers
there was 99 day lockout to kill any talks or signings and season was about to start
I went to the series closer that weekend never in my mind did I ever think I would cheer to see Freddie get struck out but I did
He grew up in So. Cal. But So. Cal ain't nearly as nice as he remembers it growing up, it's actually pretty shitty place (overpopulated, expensive, full of narcisstic a holes). Sometimes happiness is absolutely worth sacrificing for a few more $$$$. He was gonna be filthy rich either way, he knows he blew it by holding out for too much $$ in Atlanta. Matt Olsen is super happy he held out since the Braves signed him instead. I don't think the Braves have missed Freeman at all.
It's just a communication breakdown....X 320 million. I understand the other, very intriguing side of it here - that being that Freddie fired his agent because he failed to notify FF of the Braves final offer; thus leading him to believe that they weren't really interested in him...Thus he signs for $335m in LA rather than the $320m in Atlanta.
So, if it was the agent steering the ship here, then what was his incentive for going after the LA deal? Sure, it is a bit more money (for Freddie), but was it really worth the agent doing something as unethical and dishonest as deceiving Freeman by hiding the ATL final offer? I love FF, but I have a hard time believing it...Unless there is some kind of incentive or bonus driving the agent to shut the door on ATL for freddie.
It won't be more money for Freeman. He's gonna get 5 million a year until 2039. Long after his career is over. And taxes are gonna eat him alive. His agent got paid right off the top.
Ahh ya... especially after his agent apparently lied to him.
To summarize: Yep.
The Atlanta Braves let him go…what’s so hard to understand????
he could have stayed anyway and be DH of in LF cause ozuna can't field or throw and run the bases too
@@randyposs6281 …could’ve, should’ve, whatever…the point is the Braves let him go !!! Get over it!!!
He’s a great baseball player no matter what team he plays with, but at the end of the day, the Braves let him go.
Freddie shouldn't regret. the majority of the fans still love him...that includes a die-hard fan like me. he won us a ring...after decades of wallowing in failure.
#ForeverBrave
Was the espn guy Max Kellerman? Or Keith Olbermann? 🧐
This feels like MLB meets “The Notebook” and Freddie is Allie and just discovered her letters from Noah after they were hidden by her mother. What’s next? Freddie announces ”If you’re a Brave, I’m a Brave”? Oh, the drama
Get your facts together Dan!
Oh and Freddie Freeman THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!
Patrick is absolutely correct
It like be with your girlfriend for 13 years and breaking up with her then going with other girl then and not feeling the same way as old girlfriend.
Short answer...yes!!!
Regardless of what the agent is saying now, all he cares about is how much money he is going to make off the deal.
I Miss Freddie Freeman I'm A Braves Fan
So what will the Braves offer to get Freeman back? Maybe a three team trade. That way the Dodgers get something, Freeman gets what he wants..
When you do the math, because of the California state income tax and the Georgia state income tax, Freeman would have made the same at the end of the year.
Tom Hanks says in the movie A League of their own, there's no crying in baseball. Well I guess there is.
Would trade Matt Olson in a heartbeat to have Freddie back!
Based Freddie
Dan, first I must say I love you since your days here in Atlanta at 96 Rock. My brother and I would always catch you daily on our way to the golf course where we worked and played. It seems you've missed the crux of the story which is Freddy's agent did not represent him with Freddy's interest in mind. He did not communicate Atlanta's last offer to Friday which was less than LA's. The agent also issued a 1 hour ultimatum to the Braves. After the hour past the deals were taken off the table. The Braves made their move to replace Freddy and Freddy signed with the Dodgers for a higher amount of money but with deferred payments which would be eaten alive by taxes and Freddy would ultimately end up making less with the Dodgers then he would have with the Braves. Apparently the agent did not communicate this to Freddy because the agent cut comes off the top, would make more money signing with the Dodgers then had Freddie signed with the Braves. And that is why Freddy fired his agent, after hearing it from someone in the Braves organization.
Vid sounds funny on mobile if you keep restarting it at the beginning. The "Also" just sounds cartoony at a certain point
I wonder who he is talking about at ESPN that did that
Ppl stop. Weird things happen. 😕 HE finally gets back to the ATL and gets the World Series Ring he made possible?
I think you hit the nail on the head.....I think Freeman's agent was sugar coating some stuff and glassed over some mistakes that his agent made at the time that maybe Freeman didnt know about until he came back from ATL... I think at the time Freeman was in shock and probably upset with ATL front office for moving on to Olson so he was closed minded. Time has passed, allowed him to open up and allowed him to hear the other side...I think he probably heard some things from his buddies in the ORG that ding that light bulb that helped him understand the other side of the story...I think until he came to ATL for this series he only knew what his agent was telling him....now he has had a sit down possibly some "over a beer" conversations it painted a much different picture.
I don't feel sorry for Freddie Freeman at all. He had been with the Braves for 12 years. He could have called the Braves front office and found out what the issues were and worked them out himself.
Freddie can't hold Chipper Jones jockstrap. Freddie can cry all he wants, he went months without talking to his manager or GM, quit with the pity party. Freddie either was ready to leave and didn't want to be the bad guy or he's incredibly stupid.
what about the hour ultimatum his agent gave the braves? theres context here
It comes down to how much more he has to pay in taxes California
You can be happy or content with your new place, but also pissed off how your representation handled the offseason with a group you cared about. LA fans have no reason to complain about how this is transpiring, hes your second best hitter and one of the top hitters by average in the league - yet hes being questioned by a team leader who has an abysmal october ERA. This isnt a question of his effort. Again, he can be happy there, but also disgusted how this all went down.
I thought there was no crying in baseball.
Stupid comment
Hey Freddie, did you hear your Atlanta fans cheering when you struck out? Seems everyone has moved on except you. It is a huge privilege to play for the Dodgers. I was going to say be brave but you might start crying again.
Uh we still had a 10+ minute standing ovation for him but go off I guess
@Lordeverfall100 there was littarly a multi minute video and cheers. 10 is a exaggeration but to act live braves fan dont love him still is factually wrong
Freddie is loved and adored in Atlanta. I really can't imagine a Braves fan not missing him.
Salty Dodgers fan 😂
It's obvious that Atlanta Braves fans love Freddie but it's also obvious that Atlanta Braves Management didn't. Think of it like you are his new girlfriend but he keeps crying and talking about his old girlfriend. What do you expect his new girlfriend reactions going to be. It's not rocket science.
Apparently it was discovered that last weekend in Atlanta that the agent withheld info of the final offer which was 5 years, $140 mil. Somewhere there was a huge disconnect. Now Freeman is one unhappy man. He bears responsibility also. He gambled and lost.
How did he lose ? He lives in LA sunny LA ..he's rich ...got a good contract with the Dodger..is on a better team..and playing better than the guy who replaced him! Look at the numbers.. Dodger LA all Day
@@thecrock05 So say you Jonny. Amy reasonable person can look at the man and see that he's miserable. He's not thinking about sunny LA, money or his "better team."
He's miserable how ? Because he cried? Smh....trust me I see dodgers play alot! He's always smiling! He has his father at dodger stadium alot ! Along with his wife and kids..smh...fucking guy can't accept He's doing better than the guy braves traded for...lol..while freeman is succeeding in LA
@@thecrock05 Don't care. Freddie is usually smiling anyway. But was he last weekend? NO! His actions spoke volumes. Apparently everyone except you could see and feel the outpouring of emotions, the regret, pain and hurt. Or you're offended because you know he prefers to be in Atlanta.
Why you taking it so personally and getting ticked off and using foul language? Go to the beach or something and relax.
@@thecrock05 You lose if you value people over the shallow crap you just listed. What a typical Californian response.
The Braves didn't hesitate to ditch Freeman, which shows what they actually thought of Freddie. Freddie didn't make any mistakes.
So why did he fire his agent?
Gee whiz freeman is making a mockery of himself not only that im sure the dodgers are just thrilled at their first baseman crying on national tv because hes no longer with braves. Hes fucking up for sure
Any commentary on him not being happy being a Dodger is commentary. Freddie hasn't said he's unhappy being a Dodger. You can loss something valuable without being unhappy with what you have. I think, if he wasn't a Brave, the next best thing for him was a Dodger, but the cost is steep. Retired faces of franchises have wonderful post-baseball lives in the cities that love them. Hell Freddie could have been Governor regardless of the party he ran as. But that is all gone now. He'll be loved, he'll be appreciated, but he won't retire as the face of this franchise. And no money can buy it. The sad thing is, he already had it, so it was taken from him. Be careful people, with whom you surround yourself with. It cost Freddie a portion of his legacy.
He looks devastated.
I think it's more that it's been found out his agent lied to him about details of how deals.with braves went down. So finding that out probably really hurt him realizing what could.of been
@@hibiki8473 yeah, maybe that too.
No
Brainer!!!
dan always keeps it 100
Yes
As a dodger fan they should just make a trade Freddie for Olson ship him back to Atlanta
As a Braves fan id be more than happy with that!
I agree
@@bsakoff As a Braves fan, you know that you’d be shooting yourself in the foot by doing that? You gave up prospects, will give up a younger cheaper player on the uprise, will get an older more expensive player in return. There’s no sense but sentimentality in the thinking.
No self-respecting GM would ever do that considering actual factors involved. Freddie had his chance and missed it.. Till next time no.5
@@jeremiah_12
True. The only way I see this working out for Atl is that Freddie is better than Olson right now. And right now is Atlanta's window to possibly stack titles.
He could have stayed in Atl. and made more than in LA. He Regrets his move.
It looks like Dan Patrick, just like Rich Eisen, simply missed what really happened here.
Not right now Dodgers in 1st and have a super team.
The espn guy hes talking about is totally Dilfer
I was a big Freddy Freeman fan he should have sat in on his negotiations but he's a Dodger now and I hate the Dodgers
It upsets me that he wanted to be a brave but couldn’t because his dumbass agent miscommunicated and only was looking after himself, that’s why freddie fired him
This is all so weird. As a Dodger fan I totally get his emotional ties to Atlanta but damn. You’re a Dodger bro. You’re near family. You’re on a great team. I get it but it sure makes us Dodger fans feel unappreciated.
Dodger fans barely exist. Show up late and leave early
@@Rich51185 We lead attendance for the past eight years 🤡
Yeah, they buy tickets for a social setting. Again, arrive in the 3rd and leave around the 7th
@@Rich51185Right the whole stadium 🤦♂️ Don’t be mad we have a few famous fans. Hater
He grew up an Angels fan
Hahahah agent smagent.... im sure his wife had a huuuuuuge impact on the outcome...now that's the truth...with some cheeeeeese on it
Well he fired his agents for handling his contact so I’d say so