I think Shiv protected Tom without trying to. She told Mattson not to fire Ebba no matter what, and I feel like because Shive was honest about how effed up her relationship with Tom was, he probably thought it was equally important not to fire Tom in the wake of a messy divorce.
I didn't explicitly say this, but what I was actually thinking is that Mattson and Shiv are on the same page in terms of where the direction they would want to take ATN. and part of that begins with firing Cyd. but i hadnt considered your train of thought. i like the idea that Mattson either chose to keep Tom for the sake of Shiv, or even, for the sake of business since he is aligned with Shiv. so it might not have been some offscreen dialogue. it might have just been based off of what we saw her say. again, good call!
Yeah, Succession doesn't tend to go the cheap route of off-screen storytelling to make up for plot holes, or deus ex machinas. They put it all on the screen, which I love.
I don’t think the Matson story about blood is real. Not sure why he’d give that dirt to the people with whom he’s negotiating at the moment. I think he told her the story to test whether she’d take it back to her brothers or not. The brothers not bringing it up atop the mountain probably means she didn’t tell them and suggests the kids aren’t on the same page but as dysfunctional as they seem
interesting. despite being shocked that he would tell her that, i hadnt even considered it being a lie and a test ... im going to have to think about that
i like the way you all are thinking outside the box. that wouldnt have crossed my mind. but to play devils advocate, Mattson had an early scene with Shiv where he was hesitant to hug her and asked if it would bring a lawsuit. then, he had that scene with Ebba where she eluded to having dirty on him so it seems like somethings there. maybe the blood thing is a lie though...
Extraordinarily interesting observation. Mattson probably did lie (blood? really?) and saw some alliance with Shiv who feels on the outside of her brothers Co-CEO positions. I have a feeling Tom, Shiv and soon to be baby Logan will make a power play...internally.
Succession keeps getting better & better. I think some of the things Roman said to Maatson (who deserved it.) were things he wanted to say to Logan. Maatson is a piece of work. Shiv is not going to take being dismissed by her brothers. Watch out for her. She's making moves stealthly. Kendell is on a high now, but I don't think he'll be able to be the king of the mountain. Poor Connor. Ironic he was ignored by Logan in life but he's the sib who has to see to his send off. Greg is thirsty and has lost his innocence. Good for Tom standing up for himself but he'll untimately bend to Shiv's will.
What about Greg's foresight in questioning if they had a counter offer? The brothers laughed at him but that is exactly what Mattson asked minutes later. Interesting development for Greg
Everyone keeps acting like it's clever of the various members of the Roy family to understand the basic nature of negotiation. No, it wasn't foresight for Greg to mention counteroffers. That's literally what they're all there for. No, it wasn't some huge win for Shiv that she told Matsson "offer more and we might have a deal." He already bloody knew that. He might be a massive dick, but he's not _that_ stupid. I bet they could have bled more money out of him in fact. Anyway, who knows if the deal will even go through? It's quite likely that one or other of the conflicted, entitled people involved will find some way to screw it up. But it makes good television..
@The Attempt i think its more to highlight the fact the the siblings are simply not talented businessmen. they consistently mess up. and the worst part is that each of them, specially shiv and ken, think are business geniuses but dont even consider a counter offer which would be the most basic move that even Greg the Egg thought about it.
I think so too. My gut reaction to Matsson’s request for a picture of them is he’s going to crush them. The photo will then be thrown back at Kendal and Roman as a reminder of the time right before their fall.
I find Ebba's personnality very interesting, she gives this i'm the real person in control kind of vibe. I believe that Mattson's story was wrong and just a test for shiv.
i actually just read another comment mentioning the blood story being fake too. i hadnt considered that. it doesnt feel right, but ive only had a couple seconds so far to try to let that idea sink in. that would be wild! in terms of Ebba, im not gonna lie, i think im in love lol. shes obviously gorgeous and intelligent, and she seems so quietly powerful. love her as a new character. hopefully she gets more screentime!
@@bridge4 agreed about her being powerful, which is also why I believe the blood story could be true like there's almost that GOT ramsay and myranda vibe to them. I don't think he's at all worried about it though and is more telling shiv to test her and brag/flirt. also like it doesn't really harm him cause it would be easy to fake that it wasn't sent by him and have it turned back on her somehow.
I don’t know, I think it was probably true. There’s a chance he was just manipulating her, but a story like that seems like what a creepy stalker dude really would do, and Mattson has said very weird things in the past. “I get so obsessed with people, and then they disappoint me” with this really weird look on his face. I think it was real. Consistent with his personality, and the writers always have their finger on the pulse of realistic personalities
Shiv feels powerless, so she’s gonna pick Tom up like a toy and then drop him after playing with him for a bit. But hey, he knows his end of the deal 😂.
as usual, im so torn on her. i want to love her, but Tom's become my favorite, and im worried about him to her credit though, Mattson offered her drugs, and unless im mistaken, she grabbed the vial but never did any. so there's that!
yeah, i lean towards what you're saying Soda. the biggest clue was her smile in the very last shot. she congratulated Kendal and Roman, but in truth, she was the one who got that deal done. and she knows it, smiling as she sipped the champage. i foolishly just showed a clip of that and layered over the line with Mattson telling her that he likes her since she can take a joke ... like her father i probably should've been more clear in that part of the vid
thanks Bubreherro! not sure if you noticed a difference, but i uploaded without the background music this time. do you think that works better or worse?
@@bridge4 I did NOT notice! I really appreciate without the music but as I am not sure what I am comparing it to, I am off to check a previous video! EDIT: This is interesting. The music in your previous videos is barely there, so I'd say that it is well balanced and the music doesn't distract from your analysis, and yet, I prefer without the music. By the way, thanks for the comment on Hugo's slip up. I wasn't entirely sure what that sequence was about when I washed the clip. Now I totally see how it's linked with Gerri's speech. Also, poor Kendall.. I have no hope that he can finish whatever it is he is trying to accomplish, even with his newfound confidence post the letter.
nah, if you see this, please dont waste your time rewatching. i tend to like the ambient background music, but that might just be because as im editing, i hear my own voice say the same things over and over. so it make editing and reviewing nicer with music lol. but i go back and forth on having music in vids and not having it, because it can be distracting. and my mumbling is probably easier to understand without it
i dont think shiv keeping tom around is her wanting to get back together with him. i think with everything going on, she wants someone in ATN who will be under her thumb and she knows given how desperate Tom is, he can do that for her. That's why she gutted Cyd. because she doesn't like the republican candidate and when she asked Tom, he said that it was Cyd that she was power hungry. I think a part of her still thinks she can use Tom but she doesn't realize that he's out of her control now
you might be right. im a bit of a romantic, which makes me naive. id like to think that Shiv and Tom might be on their way to something healthy and long-term. (i also think that she might have actually been impressed when he stuck up for himself. i took it out of my recording though because the way i said it was clunky, especially in terms of a situation where there were both abusing each other to an extent)
@@bridge4 haha I get that 😂 I’m the opposite I hate them together they’re super frustrating and toxic so I’m just hoping they get a divorce lol. Also, i think something might happen with her and matson. Idk the whole time he was talking to her I got weird vibes and I went back and watched all the trailers and promos and they just have weird energy. I think she might be in way over her head with matson if we are to believe that he actually sent his coms person half a liter of blood. Repeatedly 💀 Also! Big fan of your work!
based off last weeks trailer, i wondered about her and Mattson. but i didnt really feel it this episode (despite her complimenting him while mocking Tom in comparison) in terms of their fate, im actually with ya. i wish Tom would get over her. however, i guess i sort of envision them together at the end of this show, so im probably trying to prep my mind to be happy with that, especially for the sake of the child. thank you, btw!
Shiv knows there is no going back with Tom romantically. "Our marriage is fcked" was an honest thought. However, I think she wants to remain in good terms with him if not for selfish reasons at least for their potential child.
@@danisalusha5739 @bridge4 I disagree. What I felt has been underestimated is Shiv's admission that SHE " broke his heart" as well as he breaking hers, and in that order. We've not seen her acknowledge her own mistreatment and the taking Tom for granted before this. I think she is attracted to him again because he has demonstrated he will fight back and give as good as he gets---no more Tom as Shiv's compliant doormat. He has turned into a being she can respect. I hope they get back together, that the baby is Tom's, and they launch a tag team effort to win this "thing", ( even though I think Roman landing on top would be the fairest in terms of his heart. He's come a long way from the psychopathic abuse of the kid at the baseball game ;)
greg and kendall don't have the best relationship (called him the world's largest tapeworm, threatened to burn him, etc.), but greg has been useful in the past (even for the schemes in this episode) and he is family. Plus, Greg is on the Piece of paper that kendall gets some of his legitimacy from.
for real!!! one thing i missed last night that i caught on a rewatch while making this video was that Mattson had offered Shiv drugs. she grabbed the vial as if she was going to do some, but i dont think she did, at least, not on screen. so there's that. but im with ya. she needs to tell Tom!!!
@@bridge4 The fact she didn't do the drugs is a suggestion that she values this pregnancy. I am sure she has 'disposed' of pregnancies in the past. There have been a couple of throwaway lines about her sexual exploits and appetite in previous seasons.
I felt like Kendall secretly wanted to tank the deal before they even got to the retreat with Mattson. Once Mattson started acting like a douche, it was easier for Kendall to bring Roman into the plan. But I truly believe his goal from the get go was to have the deal tanked and remain as CEO of the whole company.
Greg is so fun, like he's goofy AF but then ends up dancing with Ebba so it's like wait what? also he's totally moving on from Tom - Tom got lazy and relied on him too much that now Greg knows way more than him and Tom doesn't really have much to offer if he's not with shiv. I have mixed feelings about Tom - I want him to find a way to apologize to shiv cause she needs someone in her corner and I think most of the time he was or tried to be.
I adore how Greg went from burnout, idiot cousin to a name written in the margins with a question mark, but without losing any of his trademark awkwardness 😂 I do actually believe that Logan legit made the line with Kendall's name difficult to interpret, just to f**k with Ken, but I think there truly is something behind his 'Greg Question Mark' note.
The move is clear, buy the NY Times style papper under Royco, boost the share value, leak the blood weird info on Matsson and go for GoJo as well. The kids would make Waystar bigger than even Logan had ever dreamed of.
I hear ya. But based off of what's been set up with Cyd and what's to come in terms of the election subplot, it seems like ATN is the primary focus. Parks and Cruises feels like bloat for them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they leverage the Mattson stuff to go back to the deal which spins off ATN To be honest, last week, I was actually wondering why Mattson was buying the rest of the stuff since his technology feels most compatible with news. So when he went for the entire company this episode, that made sense. Can't wait for next week to see what happens. Blood at a funeral lol
Ah! You are the only person I’ve seen think this way and I agree! I feel like season one started with Ken trying to convince Logan to buy GoJo and I’ve always felt like they’d get back there some how.
Thanks, it's just a guess though. I have no idea lol. I didn't want to say this out loud since it's a bit silly, but a piece of me wonders if Greg and her actually hit it off. I doubt it, but it would be funny considering how Greg took a shot at the Contessa last season. Wouldn't be surprised if he swung for Ebba as well lol
She seemed to be really into Greg in that shot of them dancing together and as Shiv said most ppl would’ve been high (molly) or drunk! Yes Greg has his confidence sky hi with females and has found that his appeal and unthreatening persona is his greatest asset, ad does Tom!
It went from explosive sexual tension and me thinking they would eventually kiss to Roman literally telling he hates Lukas nearly crying I am so frustrated 🤧
Greg will save the family. Even though they treat him the way they do he is family…. Even Ken came to his defense when Mattison was laughing at him…. Grandpa Ewan will prob come into play at the end…. Recall when it was thanksgiving and Ken tried to say Logan was not all there Ewan still was on his brothers side…. I believe Greg will have his grandpas seat on the board and will have the last say in regards to the deal with Mattison
The writers are pushing Matsson as a younger Logan. I think for the rest of this series Matsson will take the Roy children to school. It won't be a Logan scolding either.
Good review. I agree with your assessment. I think Shiv is actually working with Eric Northman ( TrueBlood) to hurt Tom . .. I think she is leading him on 😊
Maybe, but isn’t she pregnant with his kid? I get that they don’t do anything the way we would do it, but how would it help her to bury him? Not sure I know the answer.
nooooo, leading him on!?! omg, it wouldnt be the first time ive been a sucker. i hope you're wrong tho side note, shotout to Eric Northman. im not a night person, so i actually went to be right after i watched the episode. sometimes, ill write a rough draft right away, but the last two weeks i was just too tired by 10pm EST lol. with that said, i had actually planned on opening this video with a shoutout to this actor. he's one of my favorites EVER because he always kills it in everything True Blood, some limited series about the Iraq invasion on HBO, and this (i havent see the northman, but he's probably a badass in that) and, for what its worth, Tom Hopper seems to be the fandoms pick for Ser Duncan the Tall in the new "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" show, but a couple months ago, I threw out the idea of Alexander Skarsgard since he's always so awesome, and my friend agreed =))
we don't know for sure that it's his kid. based off the timing, probably. i havent done the analysis, but i dont think it would be Nate or the guy from Willa's play. but who knows... maybe some other offsceen lover?
hahaha, you just made me smile, ser. One of my buddies finally read Stormlight. he took my advice and read Warbreaker before book 3 (i had said before book 2, but 3 is good enough), and he also did Emperor's Soul and loved that one. he didn't like Warbreaker too much though, so he refused to take my advice and do Mistborn Era 1 before Stormlight 4. thats a big mistake imo. i think he's afraid of Mistborn being too Young Adult. but ughhh, Mistborn Era 1 is legit. one of my favorite series ever!! (I had been trying to get him to do Era 1 and Secret History before Stormlight 4)
@@bridge4 Especially now with RoW and TLM, being fully steeped in the Cosmere is getting more important. I definitely can’t relate to negging a book based on it being YA. I read Hunger Games, Potter, and His Dark Materials starting in my 30s and now at 53 am anxiously awaiting the next Skyward, as well as planning on getting to Alcatraz.
Stargo is mentioned in the previous season as waystar's bad streaming service that Matsson pees on in the washroom with Roman. Its mentioned to suck. In the intro its buffering, while GojoGo (madsen's streaming service) is mentioned to work well. The main problem Madseen mentions with logan in season 3 is he needs lots of eyeballs and that requires content.
@@helpconflict9851 I agree. When Matsson mentioned the Vaulter takedown to Kendall and Roman, it was obvious that he knew all the intricacies of the Waystar's ill-fated acquisition. He probably got the details from Lawrence, so it was pretty obvious that Matsson was not going to allow himself to be softball by Kendall and Roman.
Ebba is the most fascinating characters to come out of left field. The mystery about her health issues, her relationship with the company and the fact she’s an Estrogen air freshener 😅
As a Swedish guy hearing Kendall saying "Maybe it is funnier with subtitles" was pretty hilarious.
That was a good moment for Ken
What were Mattsson and pals saying?
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 a bunch of stuff about nepotism and Greg being an inbred giant
I think Shiv protected Tom without trying to. She told Mattson not to fire Ebba no matter what, and I feel like because Shive was honest about how effed up her relationship with Tom was, he probably thought it was equally important not to fire Tom in the wake of a messy divorce.
I didn't explicitly say this, but what I was actually thinking is that Mattson and Shiv are on the same page in terms of where the direction they would want to take ATN. and part of that begins with firing Cyd. but i hadnt considered your train of thought. i like the idea that Mattson either chose to keep Tom for the sake of Shiv, or even, for the sake of business since he is aligned with Shiv. so it might not have been some offscreen dialogue. it might have just been based off of what we saw her say. again, good call!
Yeah, Succession doesn't tend to go the cheap route of off-screen storytelling to make up for plot holes, or deus ex machinas.
They put it all on the screen, which I love.
Yup exactly or what about baby
@@_abracadabra that's exactly what I was thinking. Everything that's important happens on screen.
I don’t think the Matson story about blood is real. Not sure why he’d give that dirt to the people with whom he’s negotiating at the moment. I think he told her the story to test whether she’d take it back to her brothers or not. The brothers not bringing it up atop the mountain probably means she didn’t tell them and suggests the kids aren’t on the same page but as dysfunctional as they seem
interesting. despite being shocked that he would tell her that, i hadnt even considered it being a lie and a test ... im going to have to think about that
I agree that it was a test for her maybe loyalty? Just like Logan likes to test others.
i like the way you all are thinking outside the box. that wouldnt have crossed my mind. but to play devils advocate, Mattson had an early scene with Shiv where he was hesitant to hug her and asked if it would bring a lawsuit. then, he had that scene with Ebba where she eluded to having dirty on him
so it seems like somethings there. maybe the blood thing is a lie though...
Extraordinarily interesting observation. Mattson probably did lie (blood? really?) and saw some alliance with Shiv who feels on the outside of her brothers Co-CEO positions. I have a feeling Tom, Shiv and soon to be baby Logan will make a power play...internally.
I think the "blood" was an euphemism for "dick pics" :3
Succession keeps getting better & better. I think some of the things Roman said to Maatson (who deserved it.) were things he wanted to say to Logan. Maatson is a piece of work. Shiv is not going to take being dismissed by her brothers. Watch out for her. She's making moves stealthly. Kendell is on a high now, but I don't think he'll be able to be the king of the mountain. Poor Connor. Ironic he was ignored by Logan in life but he's the sib who has to see to his send off. Greg is thirsty and has lost his innocence. Good for Tom standing up for himself but he'll untimately bend to Shiv's will.
Frank and karl didn’t care they just want that retirement package
What about Greg's foresight in questioning if they had a counter offer? The brothers laughed at him but that is exactly what Mattson asked minutes later. Interesting development for Greg
Everyone keeps acting like it's clever of the various members of the Roy family to understand the basic nature of negotiation.
No, it wasn't foresight for Greg to mention counteroffers. That's literally what they're all there for.
No, it wasn't some huge win for Shiv that she told Matsson "offer more and we might have a deal." He already bloody knew that. He might be a massive dick, but he's not _that_ stupid. I bet they could have bled more money out of him in fact.
Anyway, who knows if the deal will even go through? It's quite likely that one or other of the conflicted, entitled people involved will find some way to screw it up. But it makes good television..
@@dielaughing73 interesting reply. Not sure who it’s meant for but thanks for sharing all the same
@The Attempt i think its more to highlight the fact the the siblings are simply not talented businessmen. they consistently mess up. and the worst part is that each of them, specially shiv and ken, think are business geniuses but dont even consider a counter offer which would be the most basic move that even Greg the Egg thought about it.
I just think Matsson asking Shiv to send a photo of Ken and Rome might have more implications than meet the eye.
I think so too. My gut reaction to Matsson’s request for a picture of them is he’s going to crush them. The photo will then be thrown back at Kendal and Roman as a reminder of the time right before their fall.
Her complying with this request is proof Mattson has successfully groomed her to be on his side, against her siblings
I find Ebba's personnality very interesting, she gives this i'm the real person in control kind of vibe. I believe that Mattson's story was wrong and just a test for shiv.
i actually just read another comment mentioning the blood story being fake too. i hadnt considered that. it doesnt feel right, but ive only had a couple seconds so far to try to let that idea sink in. that would be wild!
in terms of Ebba, im not gonna lie, i think im in love lol. shes obviously gorgeous and intelligent, and she seems so quietly powerful. love her as a new character. hopefully she gets more screentime!
@@bridge4 agreed about her being powerful, which is also why I believe the blood story could be true like there's almost that GOT ramsay and myranda vibe to them. I don't think he's at all worried about it though and is more telling shiv to test her and brag/flirt. also like it doesn't really harm him cause it would be easy to fake that it wasn't sent by him and have it turned back on her somehow.
@@bridge4 she is really beautiful
I don’t know, I think it was probably true. There’s a chance he was just manipulating her, but a story like that seems like what a creepy stalker dude really would do, and Mattson has said very weird things in the past. “I get so obsessed with people, and then they disappoint me” with this really weird look on his face. I think it was real. Consistent with his personality, and the writers always have their finger on the pulse of realistic personalities
Bleed the Swede
This entire time Greg’s just been hangin in the window like PE-KING duck
Hahaha Karl the American Psycho has all the killer lines.
Best Succession analysis by far. Your insights are refreshing and not a lazy rehash like many others who get their vids out a bit too quickly. Bravo.
Within the safety of the Quad! The quad Squad!
Greg: "da family"
Shiv: "da fuck!?"
lol
Frank and Karl gave zero effs about being on the kill list. OGs like them are happy to jump out the plane with their golden parachutes.
Shiv feels powerless, so she’s gonna pick Tom up like a toy and then drop him after playing with him for a bit. But hey, he knows his end of the deal 😂.
as usual, im so torn on her. i want to love her, but Tom's become my favorite, and im worried about him
to her credit though, Mattson offered her drugs, and unless im mistaken, she grabbed the vial but never did any. so there's that!
@@bridge4 yesss, at first when she accepted it felt bad cause she was pregnant but kudos to her for not taking a hit
Mattson has removed her feelings of powerless.
yeah, i lean towards what you're saying Soda. the biggest clue was her smile in the very last shot. she congratulated Kendal and Roman, but in truth, she was the one who got that deal done. and she knows it, smiling as she sipped the champage.
i foolishly just showed a clip of that and layered over the line with Mattson telling her that he likes her since she can take a joke ... like her father
i probably should've been more clear in that part of the vid
@@bridge4 but will she get the credit for her part in the deal. Experience tells me no 😩.
I always look forward to your analyses of Succession after the episodes. I enjoy your speech tone and rate!
thanks Bubreherro!
not sure if you noticed a difference, but i uploaded without the background music this time. do you think that works better or worse?
@@bridge4 I did NOT notice! I really appreciate without the music but as I am not sure what I am comparing it to, I am off to check a previous video!
EDIT: This is interesting. The music in your previous videos is barely there, so I'd say that it is well balanced and the music doesn't distract from your analysis, and yet, I prefer without the music.
By the way, thanks for the comment on Hugo's slip up. I wasn't entirely sure what that sequence was about when I washed the clip. Now I totally see how it's linked with Gerri's speech. Also, poor Kendall.. I have no hope that he can finish whatever it is he is trying to accomplish, even with his newfound confidence post the letter.
nah, if you see this, please dont waste your time rewatching. i tend to like the ambient background music, but that might just be because as im editing, i hear my own voice say the same things over and over. so it make editing and reviewing nicer with music lol. but i go back and forth on having music in vids and not having it, because it can be distracting. and my mumbling is probably easier to understand without it
@@bridge4 no worries, I needed to rewatch the Marcia status on the trust explanation anyway 😉 Also, I find you have pretty good enunciation
i dont think shiv keeping tom around is her wanting to get back together with him. i think with everything going on, she wants someone in ATN who will be under her thumb and she knows given how desperate Tom is, he can do that for her. That's why she gutted Cyd. because she doesn't like the republican candidate and when she asked Tom, he said that it was Cyd that she was power hungry. I think a part of her still thinks she can use Tom but she doesn't realize that he's out of her control now
you might be right. im a bit of a romantic, which makes me naive. id like to think that Shiv and Tom might be on their way to something healthy and long-term. (i also think that she might have actually been impressed when he stuck up for himself. i took it out of my recording though because the way i said it was clunky, especially in terms of a situation where there were both abusing each other to an extent)
@@bridge4 haha I get that 😂 I’m the opposite I hate them together they’re super frustrating and toxic so I’m just hoping they get a divorce lol. Also, i think something might happen with her and matson. Idk the whole time he was talking to her I got weird vibes and I went back and watched all the trailers and promos and they just have weird energy. I think she might be in way over her head with matson if we are to believe that he actually sent his coms person half a liter of blood. Repeatedly 💀
Also! Big fan of your work!
based off last weeks trailer, i wondered about her and Mattson. but i didnt really feel it this episode (despite her complimenting him while mocking Tom in comparison)
in terms of their fate, im actually with ya. i wish Tom would get over her. however, i guess i sort of envision them together at the end of this show, so im probably trying to prep my mind to be happy with that, especially for the sake of the child.
thank you, btw!
Shiv knows there is no going back with Tom romantically. "Our marriage is fcked" was an honest thought. However, I think she wants to remain in good terms with him if not for selfish reasons at least for their potential child.
@@danisalusha5739 @bridge4 I disagree. What I felt has been underestimated is Shiv's admission that SHE " broke his heart" as well as he breaking hers, and in that order. We've not seen her acknowledge her own mistreatment and the taking Tom for granted before this. I think she is attracted to him again because he has demonstrated he will fight back and give as good as he gets---no more Tom as Shiv's compliant doormat. He has turned into a being she can respect. I hope they get back together, that the baby is Tom's, and they launch a tag team effort to win this "thing", ( even though I think Roman landing on top would be the fairest in terms of his heart. He's come a long way from the psychopathic abuse of the kid at the baseball game ;)
Good Ole’ Greggles… Number 2 indeed
lol
greg and kendall don't have the best relationship (called him the world's largest tapeworm, threatened to burn him, etc.), but greg has been useful in the past (even for the schemes in this episode) and he is family. Plus, Greg is on the Piece of paper that kendall gets some of his legitimacy from.
And Kendall gave him an apartment!
Shiv needs to tell Tom about the baby.
for real!!!
one thing i missed last night that i caught on a rewatch while making this video was that Mattson had offered Shiv drugs. she grabbed the vial as if she was going to do some, but i dont think she did, at least, not on screen. so there's that. but im with ya. she needs to tell Tom!!!
@@bridge4 The fact she didn't do the drugs is a suggestion that she values this pregnancy. I am sure she has 'disposed' of pregnancies in the past. There have been a couple of throwaway lines about her sexual exploits and appetite in previous seasons.
Probably why she asked him out to dinner.
I'm still confused as to why Hugo thought it would be a good idea to be so confrontational and rude to the former Olympian 🤯
It's a TV Show/Movie thing. Everyone has to have some kind of conflict with someone else. If everyone just gets along it's boring.
I felt like Kendall secretly wanted to tank the deal before they even got to the retreat with Mattson. Once Mattson started acting like a douche, it was easier for Kendall to bring Roman into the plan. But I truly believe his goal from the get go was to have the deal tanked and remain as CEO of the whole company.
My dude, he was gonna fire everyone but Gerry. With the "alliance" with Shiv and her saying to keep Ebba, she and Tom were kept.
I can hear Logan now “these f***ers couldn’t even rank a deal”. 😂😂😂😂
Greg is so fun, like he's goofy AF but then ends up dancing with Ebba so it's like wait what? also he's totally moving on from Tom - Tom got lazy and relied on him too much that now Greg knows way more than him and Tom doesn't really have much to offer if he's not with shiv. I have mixed feelings about Tom - I want him to find a way to apologize to shiv cause she needs someone in her corner and I think most of the time he was or tried to be.
I adore how Greg went from burnout, idiot cousin to a name written in the margins with a question mark, but without losing any of his trademark awkwardness 😂
I do actually believe that Logan legit made the line with Kendall's name difficult to interpret, just to f**k with Ken, but I think there truly is something behind his 'Greg Question Mark' note.
Truly Greg the mothafucking Egg
Karl & Frank are shareholders in the bored, so they won! Getting fired = massive exit paycheck. Respect to the old guard!
The move is clear, buy the NY Times style papper under Royco, boost the share value, leak the blood weird info on Matsson and go for GoJo as well. The kids would make Waystar bigger than even Logan had ever dreamed of.
I hear ya. But based off of what's been set up with Cyd and what's to come in terms of the election subplot, it seems like ATN is the primary focus. Parks and Cruises feels like bloat for them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they leverage the Mattson stuff to go back to the deal which spins off ATN
To be honest, last week, I was actually wondering why Mattson was buying the rest of the stuff since his technology feels most compatible with news. So when he went for the entire company this episode, that made sense.
Can't wait for next week to see what happens. Blood at a funeral lol
I think you spelled Royco wrong…
@@bridge4 that Mattson is really a fucking weirdo man ahaha.
Ah! You are the only person I’ve seen think this way and I agree! I feel like season one started with Ken trying to convince Logan to buy GoJo and I’ve always felt like they’d get back there some how.
@@bridge4 Waystar owns a Movie Studio. That seems like what Mattson would want the most because of the IP.
Awesome observations and explaination, I was wondering how are they going to payback cousin Greg and Ebba dancing together. Thanks for explaining it.
Thanks, it's just a guess though. I have no idea lol. I didn't want to say this out loud since it's a bit silly, but a piece of me wonders if Greg and her actually hit it off. I doubt it, but it would be funny considering how Greg took a shot at the Contessa last season. Wouldn't be surprised if he swung for Ebba as well lol
She seemed to be really into Greg in that shot of them dancing together and as Shiv said most ppl would’ve been high (molly) or drunk! Yes Greg has his confidence sky hi with females and has found that his appeal and unthreatening persona is his greatest asset, ad does Tom!
@@HolySerbia yeah I totally agree.
It went from explosive sexual tension and me thinking they would eventually kiss to Roman literally telling he hates Lukas nearly crying I am so frustrated 🤧
Greg will save the family. Even though they treat him the way they do he is family…. Even Ken came to his defense when Mattison was laughing at him…. Grandpa Ewan will prob come into play at the end…. Recall when it was thanksgiving and Ken tried to say Logan was not all there Ewan still was on his brothers side…. I believe Greg will have his grandpas seat on the board and will have the last say in regards to the deal with Mattison
i hadn't thought of that. so interesting. greg's future seat on the board. no one is thinking about that. bravo to you for thinking of it.
So did Shiv actually negotiate this contract behind the scenes or at least heavily influence the deal getting done?
Their father was right about them. They are not serious people.
Exactly. Tom is way more serious than the siblings and maybe Greg too
The writers are pushing Matsson as a younger Logan. I think for the rest of this series Matsson will take the Roy children to school. It won't be a Logan scolding either.
Shiv is only keeping Tom close so that way she can use him to fire all the loose ends, just to eventually cut ties in the end.
Good review. I agree with your assessment.
I think Shiv is actually working with Eric Northman ( TrueBlood) to hurt
Tom . ..
I think she is leading him on 😊
Maybe, but isn’t she pregnant with his kid? I get that they don’t do anything the way we would do it, but how would it help her to bury him? Not sure I know the answer.
nooooo, leading him on!?! omg, it wouldnt be the first time ive been a sucker. i hope you're wrong tho
side note, shotout to Eric Northman. im not a night person, so i actually went to be right after i watched the episode. sometimes, ill write a rough draft right away, but the last two weeks i was just too tired by 10pm EST lol. with that said, i had actually planned on opening this video with a shoutout to this actor. he's one of my favorites EVER because he always kills it in everything
True Blood, some limited series about the Iraq invasion on HBO, and this (i havent see the northman, but he's probably a badass in that)
and, for what its worth, Tom Hopper seems to be the fandoms pick for Ser Duncan the Tall in the new "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" show, but a couple months ago, I threw out the idea of Alexander Skarsgard since he's always so awesome, and my friend agreed =))
we don't know for sure that it's his kid. based off the timing, probably. i havent done the analysis, but i dont think it would be Nate or the guy from Willa's play. but who knows... maybe some other offsceen lover?
@@andrewdorie4010 shiv seems to be genuinely hurt by Tom but she is the most like Logan so who the f knows what she might do to get back at him lol
Just like Scadriel; there’s always another secret.
hahaha, you just made me smile, ser. One of my buddies finally read Stormlight. he took my advice and read Warbreaker before book 3 (i had said before book 2, but 3 is good enough), and he also did Emperor's Soul and loved that one. he didn't like Warbreaker too much though, so he refused to take my advice and do Mistborn Era 1 before Stormlight 4. thats a big mistake imo. i think he's afraid of Mistborn being too Young Adult. but ughhh, Mistborn Era 1 is legit. one of my favorite series ever!! (I had been trying to get him to do Era 1 and Secret History before Stormlight 4)
@@bridge4 Especially now with RoW and TLM, being fully steeped in the Cosmere is getting more important. I definitely can’t relate to negging a book based on it being YA. I read Hunger Games, Potter, and His Dark Materials starting in my 30s and now at 53 am anxiously awaiting the next Skyward, as well as planning on getting to Alcatraz.
When Matt told them he would offer a dollar for all of the company he want kidding….
Everyone won and everyone lost.
Yooo what’s up!! From season is out and it’s amazing!!!!
Hugo was hilarious this episode
Ebba is my new tv crush.
Shiv is just worried about a failed marriage, she married for safety, but she now realizes she has no control just like everybody else.
In the intro was I the only one that saw “WaystarGo” so I figured they were sending a message that they are merging
Stargo is mentioned in the previous season as waystar's bad streaming service that Matsson pees on in the washroom with Roman. Its mentioned to suck. In the intro its buffering, while GojoGo (madsen's streaming service) is mentioned to work well. The main problem Madseen mentions with logan in season 3 is he needs lots of eyeballs and that requires content.
@@helpconflict9851 I agree. When Matsson mentioned the Vaulter takedown to Kendall and Roman, it was obvious that he knew all the intricacies of the Waystar's ill-fated acquisition. He probably got the details from Lawrence, so it was pretty obvious that Matsson was not going to allow himself to be softball by Kendall and Roman.
What if Gerri is Mattsons mother and is fooling everyone? Does anyone really know who she is?
*Shiv, Gerri, Carolina and...?*
Tom.
B...
Plausible 🤷🏻
Ebba is the most fascinating characters to come out of left field. The mystery about her health issues, her relationship with the company and the fact she’s an Estrogen air freshener 😅