Hi Stacey, nice video 👍 I clicked on this in regards to my own tyre wear on my bikes and was pleasantly surprised by your mention of Dave Moss 👌 as I've checked out a lot of his vids , found yours and his very helpful. Also good to see another Aussie Woman representing motorcycling ❤❤. P.S love the reference to the HZ too 👌
Well they're special to me indeed 😁 2007 Repsol Fireblade & 2005 50th Anniversary R1. P.S , I had a CBR 250rr in the repsol colours when I was 19 years old back in 97 as my first bike back when you were allowed to have fun on a 19,000 RPM Learner motorcycle😅
Thanks so much for this video!. Ive been riding for decades and mostly only adjusted suspension on rudimentary feel. Ive had many tires wear out early due this tire scalloping. Decades ago, I was told by a bike mechanic that it was tire pressure. So I'd been faffing around with that. This is so helpful. Thanks!
@staceonwheels me too. My suspension is adjustable, so Ive got some work to do.But my wife's isn't. So I think spending some money on upgrading her suspension will help save her tires... and give a much better ride
Hi Stace, I understand what you are trying to fix and you are quite right about the rebound, but, this does not mean you have to adjust the compression. These two things work independently and fix two different problems. They should be adjusted to suit your riding style and the roads you ride.
Wow, cool. I found this accidentally. As a newer rider I've been chasing a rear "feeling" I couldn't quite put my finder on until I did a ton of reading. I thought it was a wallowing feeling until I ran into a page with a bunch of terminology that had wallow and pogoing. Turns out it was a pogoing feeling as described here... "Uncontrollable rebound. Can feel like a figure 8 motion in turns or riding over marbles, caused by lack of rebound dampening." And my tires look exactly like yours on the tread edges. I increased rebound damping quite a bit and reduced high and low speed compressing damping. The bike feels so much better, more settled and more confident cornering. Like you said cornering feels better, way better in my case! It's a different bike to ride now! Amazing how little changes make big difference right?! Enjoy!
That's brilliant to hear! And glad my video helped a bit in your investigations. I'm going to keep playing with suspension settings to learn what effect dufferent damping amounts have on how it rides, cornering and braking in particular. I hope to do another video about this in future. Enjoy your "new" bike.
Stace, I enjoy your content. I will be purchasing the 950s in the next few weeks. I am so encouraged by you. I’m trading in the Harley Davidson for this sweet new ride and adventure. I’m 5’3” and on the smaller side but she feels great under the legs. I’ll post when I have her. Her name will be Valentina 👍 I’m located in Southern California and can’t wait to take her on Mulholland Highway 💕🇮🇹
How exciting... new bike day coming up! I am sure you'll love your 950. Since I got mine, I've met 4 other women locally who have SuperSports. All of us are short like you, but all found ways to make this bike managable and all of us are in love with them. I look forward to hearing when you get Valentina.
probably a little late to this conversation but i just sold my supersport (2022) and now am left with the sport/low seat i bought in addition to the stock seat. i’m also here in socal so if you are interested in a low seat let me know and ill sell it to you cheap, i just keep forgetting to post it on ebay 😂
Great video Stace. Can you help, or anyone else? My bike suffers with the same front tyre wear as yours in the video. Rebound on my forks is set to factory setting (two full turns out from fully closed). When you say the rebound is too slow, how does that translate into Hard/Soft?? The manual only refers to rebound as being harder or softer, not faster or slower. Thank you
@@staceonwheels Hi Stacy, THANK YOU for the reply!. Will you do an update on this, after you have done 500 miles or so? Would be good to see if the uneven wear appears to continue, or it goes some way to healing itself. I have two bikes with the same exact issues as yours and its annoying that the manufacturer does not give any info in the manual about how to read your tyres, but then again they they are in complete denial about changing the fork oils!. Also this compromises the life of our tyres greatly. I got the answer from a suspension guy about rebound slow/fast. If the rebound is too slow it is too hard, if it is too fast it is too soft. On the forks, you would have dialled the rebound out (anti clockwise) to make rebound a little faster, from the position it was with the problem. Essentially this opens the rebound valve, to allow oil to return quicker, with the help of the spring.
@timsloan-cj2pl I did notice some improvement but not a lot. Those tyres were getting close to end of life and I'm on a new set now. I changed the compression to have a bit more damping because it felt better. Will see how the new tyres go and might do a follow up video, thanks for suggesting.
Hi Stace, how is your setup after 9 months? And what pressures are you running? With 40k up on my SS Im seeing some interesting wear and am about to start making some reductions....I'm also running Mich RPilots 6. Cheers Michel
I'm on a new set now and this time Rosso 4s. They seemed to be wearing evenly for the first few thousand kms but you prompted me to check again and I see now the same wear pattern is happening again to a lesser degree, suggesting still too fast rebound on the rear and too slow on the front. I'll adjust again and see how that goes.
Well he may or may not have been the cause. Regardless, yesterday I took the bike to a local highly regarded suspension specialist, and it already feels a world away from before. We'll see what happens after a few hundred kms.
6:40 if rear rebound was too fast the bike would feel very insecure when initiating but mostly when insisting on a turn, especially on uneven roads. You should now feel the bike much safer, glued on the tarmac.
Interesting. As for 4000km, I never make it that far on a set of tyres because I ride all my bikes on the track as well as the street and wear out the sides and even edges faster than the middle!
@fishfingers1985 nope. Did exactly the process Dave Moss gave me and it worked. I haven't rewatched it to see if my description was right or not. Too late now.
@@staceonwheels I think I might get confused after all. Fast rebound means not enough rebound dampening so you do need increase the rebound setting to correct it.
First comment😁 I like the idea of riding a motorbike, but personally not all that keen to do it on the streets (at least not with Perth drivers around😬)
I get that. Drivers in general don't see motorbikes. So I ride in the countryside, thankfully where I live is outside the suburbs. But safety always comes first.
@@staceonwheels Dave moss is a snake oil sales man who preys on people who don't know any better. Ohlins, you know the guys who make suspension have even said that suspension cannot be set up based of tyre wear. If there is a problem with tyre wear you should probably look at the tyre itself, is it run at the correct pressures, correct temperature, what level of abrasiveness are the roads? how hard are you on the tyres? there are just to many variables that Dave omits and uses 0 data points to adjust the suspension He essentially puts a bandaid on the problem when you need stiches. You don't need the suspension set up by tyre wear, what is better is to set it for your weight and then find what your preferance is
Another excellent post with really good information communicated beautifully. Thanks Stace.
That's so kind ☺️
Hi Stacey, nice video 👍
I clicked on this in regards to my own tyre wear on my bikes and was pleasantly surprised by your
mention of Dave Moss 👌 as I've checked out a lot of his vids , found yours and his very helpful.
Also good to see another Aussie Woman representing motorcycling ❤❤.
P.S love the reference to the HZ too 👌
Glad the video was helpful. On my next set of tyres since then and they continue to wear much more evenly. It worked.
Good to hear 👍😊
I have the Rosso 4's on my R1 and Dunlop Q3's on the Fireblade.
Have made some adjustments so will see how we go.
Rosso IVs on my SS now too. Love them. You have a special collection of bikes!
Well they're special to me indeed 😁
2007 Repsol Fireblade & 2005 50th Anniversary R1.
P.S , I had a CBR 250rr in the repsol colours when I was 19 years old back in 97 as my first bike back when you were allowed to have fun on a 19,000 RPM Learner motorcycle😅
Thanks so much for this video!. Ive been riding for decades and mostly only adjusted suspension on rudimentary feel. Ive had many tires wear out early due this tire scalloping. Decades ago, I was told by a bike mechanic that it was tire pressure. So I'd been faffing around with that. This is so helpful. Thanks!
I hope this saves you tyre money from now on!
@staceonwheels me too. My suspension is adjustable, so Ive got some work to do.But my wife's isn't. So I think spending some money on upgrading her suspension will help save her tires... and give a much better ride
@chadridsdale9970 being a smaller rider I personally found heaps of improvement from ajusting suspension for my weight. Hope your wife does too.
Hi Stace, I understand what you are trying to fix and you are quite right about the rebound, but, this does not mean you have to adjust the compression. These two things work independently and fix two different problems. They should be adjusted to suit your riding style and the roads you ride.
Interestingly I ended up dialing the compression back to where I had it, for handling feel.
Wow, cool. I found this accidentally. As a newer rider I've been chasing a rear "feeling" I couldn't quite put my finder on until I did a ton of reading. I thought it was a wallowing feeling until I ran into a page with a bunch of terminology that had wallow and pogoing. Turns out it was a pogoing feeling as described here... "Uncontrollable rebound. Can feel like a figure 8 motion in turns or riding over marbles, caused by lack of rebound dampening." And my tires look exactly like yours on the tread edges. I increased rebound damping quite a bit and reduced high and low speed compressing damping. The bike feels so much better, more settled and more confident cornering. Like you said cornering feels better, way better in my case! It's a different bike to ride now! Amazing how little changes make big difference right?! Enjoy!
That's brilliant to hear! And glad my video helped a bit in your investigations. I'm going to keep playing with suspension settings to learn what effect dufferent damping amounts have on how it rides, cornering and braking in particular. I hope to do another video about this in future. Enjoy your "new" bike.
@@staceonwheels Hope to see your updates!
Stace, I enjoy your content. I will be purchasing the 950s in the next few weeks. I am so encouraged by you. I’m trading in the Harley Davidson for this sweet new ride and adventure. I’m 5’3” and on the smaller side but she feels great under the legs. I’ll post when I have her. Her name will be Valentina 👍
I’m located in Southern California and can’t wait to take her on Mulholland Highway 💕🇮🇹
How exciting... new bike day coming up! I am sure you'll love your 950. Since I got mine, I've met 4 other women locally who have SuperSports. All of us are short like you, but all found ways to make this bike managable and all of us are in love with them. I look forward to hearing when you get Valentina.
probably a little late to this conversation but i just sold my supersport (2022) and now am left with the sport/low seat i bought in addition to the stock seat. i’m also here in socal so if you are interested in a low seat let me know and ill sell it to you cheap, i just keep forgetting to post it on ebay 😂
Thanks, I already have the low seat. Maybe try selling in the ducatisupersport939.net forum?
yeah mine was for the 950 and more of a response to Kim above but will give the forums a try, thanks!!
Great video Stace. Can you help, or anyone else? My bike suffers with the same front tyre wear as yours in the video. Rebound on my forks is set to factory setting (two full turns out from fully closed). When you say the rebound is too slow, how does that translate into Hard/Soft?? The manual only refers to rebound as being harder or softer, not faster or slower. Thank you
Too slow means too soft I think. It means not enough damping. Plenty of info on the interwebs about it. I'm just learning!
@@staceonwheels Hi Stacy, THANK YOU for the reply!. Will you do an update on this, after you have done 500 miles or so? Would be good to see if the uneven wear appears to continue, or it goes some way to healing itself. I have two bikes with the same exact issues as yours and its annoying that the manufacturer does not give any info in the manual about how to read your tyres, but then again they they are in complete denial about changing the fork oils!. Also this compromises the life of our tyres greatly.
I got the answer from a suspension guy about rebound slow/fast. If the rebound is too slow it is too hard, if it is too fast it is too soft. On the forks, you would have dialled the rebound out (anti clockwise) to make rebound a little faster, from the position it was with the problem. Essentially this opens the rebound valve, to allow oil to return quicker, with the help of the spring.
@timsloan-cj2pl I did notice some improvement but not a lot. Those tyres were getting close to end of life and I'm on a new set now. I changed the compression to have a bit more damping because it felt better. Will see how the new tyres go and might do a follow up video, thanks for suggesting.
@@staceonwheelshi I think it is other way round. Harder/more rebound will make the shock move slower in rebound
Yep you're right, thank you. I've been reading more lately too. But seems quite a few of us get confused by the terms used 🤪!
Hi Stace, how is your setup after 9 months? And what pressures are you running? With 40k up on my SS Im seeing some interesting wear and am about to start making some reductions....I'm also running Mich RPilots 6. Cheers Michel
I'm on a new set now and this time Rosso 4s. They seemed to be wearing evenly for the first few thousand kms but you prompted me to check again and I see now the same wear pattern is happening again to a lesser degree, suggesting still too fast rebound on the rear and too slow on the front. I'll adjust again and see how that goes.
Great video Stace 😊
Thanks Trip 😊
Thanks a lot. It was very helpful. Bests
The question is how you got moss for the setup and mess as a result.
Well he may or may not have been the cause. Regardless, yesterday I took the bike to a local highly regarded suspension specialist, and it already feels a world away from before. We'll see what happens after a few hundred kms.
Hi StaceWith the rebound issue in the rear tyre, did you have to soften or harden the rebound adjustment.
Thanks
Forvthe rear, I needed to harden it, increase the damping.
How may km's before the adjustments make any noticable changes to how the tyres were wearing?
About 400km before you see changes. Before and after photos are important too, to see the change.
6:40 if rear rebound was too fast the bike would feel very insecure when initiating but mostly when insisting on a turn, especially on uneven roads. You should now feel the bike much safer, glued on the tarmac.
True. It's amazing what you can notice when the right changes are made. Always something new to learn with this sport.
Thanks very much for the video, really good video and great advice 👍.
Thanks Paul.
Hi Stacy
Did you adjust the spring itself as well ??
Like your vids 😊
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No I didn't adjust preload on the forks or shock. Already had that set for my weight with Dave's help.
Thanks
Same issue on my s1000xr. Only got 1200 km on my front!
Did you retune your suspension settings? I'm just on a new set of tyres and keen to see if the new settings prevent this happening again.
Interesting. As for 4000km, I never make it that far on a set of tyres because I ride all my bikes on the track as well as the street and wear out the sides and even edges faster than the middle!
Yeah, after just one track day I could see how much rubber melts away!!!
I thought it would be reduce rebound on the rear since it was too fast in the beginning. 2:32
All the terms get confusing with suspension, for some reason.
Yeh she fucked it up...
@fishfingers1985 nope. Did exactly the process Dave Moss gave me and it worked. I haven't rewatched it to see if my description was right or not. Too late now.
@@staceonwheels I think I might get confused after all. Fast rebound means not enough rebound dampening so you do need increase the rebound setting to correct it.
@yukikazewayne yes, adding more rebound damping to slow it down 👍
Great job.
First comment😁 I like the idea of riding a motorbike, but personally not all that keen to do it on the streets (at least not with Perth drivers around😬)
I get that. Drivers in general don't see motorbikes. So I ride in the countryside, thankfully where I live is outside the suburbs. But safety always comes first.
@@staceonwheels riding country roads would be cool.
Freedom, solitude, nature, flow... perfect for the introvert.
Well done, you were sold some bs from Dave Moss,
Care to elaborate?
@@staceonwheels Dave moss is a snake oil sales man who preys on people who don't know any better.
Ohlins, you know the guys who make suspension have even said that suspension cannot be set up based of tyre wear. If there is a problem with tyre wear you should probably look at the tyre itself, is it run at the correct pressures, correct temperature, what level of abrasiveness are the roads? how hard are you on the tyres? there are just to many variables that Dave omits and uses 0 data points to adjust the suspension
He essentially puts a bandaid on the problem when you need stiches.
You don't need the suspension set up by tyre wear, what is better is to set it for your weight and then find what your preferance is
@mygi43543 certainly a useful elaboration thank you!
Dont listen to this guy he is talking out his ass, Dave Moss knows what he is on about and it works.@@staceonwheels
Your problem is you let Dave Moss near your bike he's a failed English teacher
People seem to either love him or hate him. Regardless, I'm taking it to a more local expert with a great reputation so hopefully I'll learn more too.
Ha!