Bazen I think people forget the fact that one it’s an ult 2 she can get off that character if she dies true it’s to strong I think you should only be able to do 1 ult then get forced to swap
bro shes a fucking mosquito with 200 hp.. Dafran was playing her yesterday and a plat normie was eating his ass with ana. She is not that strong as it looks like
@@lolpo423 Maybe possibly Echo can shoot once, or put her sticky bombs right before ult, then the damage output could count as the new character's damage and instantly get the new character's ultimate. I dunno if it works that way or not...
I swear, every game is like this. The initial wave is pretty standard/basic, then years later the new characters are decked out with the craziest, stupidest shit ever.
I still think thats reaper, hes fucking annoying as shit. literally like 200 damage a shot if you hit in the head. in a perfect world, he could kill a roadhog in 3 shots.
Imagine duping zarya then graving, your zarya gets her grav from you then she gravs and you get a 2ND GRAV repeat this process and then your zarya has a stockpiled grav to win the NEXT TEAM FIGHT INSTANTLY. WAYTOODANK
Kinda similar, I played it once when Doomfist was introduced but never bought the game since I found Paladins to be more fun (before bugs ruined that too).
@Dark PePe It's not a very beginner welcoming game and the community can be very toxic. A lot of people don't have good enough hardware to run it well too. Plus you can't imagine how many people haven't actually played Chess either.
No disrespect to Timmy but why was he chosen to showcase this? I mean he always says he hates Overwatch, these days and there are streamers who still play this game daily after many years. Maybe its just brand safety?
he's a very consistent and big name, especially for the overwatch community. plus, when I think tim I think memes and goofing around. I don't think he's ever really been too known for his anger towards anything, especially the game lol. plus its just meta to say you hate the game you play, it happens everywhere. would be pretty dumb to hold that against someone
Well for one thing, Tim May have hated on the game in the past(which who could blame him they’ve made tons of stupid decisions with overwatch) but he isn’t nearly as toxic as some of these other streamers like XQC himself. Matter of fact Tim isn’t toxic whatsoever whereas a lot of these other guys all they fucking do is complain and cry about literally everything.
@@bobrossslittlebitch8948 Idk full health, abilities ready, near instant ultimate, then back to regular echo. Don't see why you need a bunch of ultimates lol.
Shes definitely gonna get nerfed. But she has a cool concept. Sad thing is I couldn't play with her because my PC isnt very good so when I tried locking her everyone else had already done so 😪
Shes definitely op but the fact that she sits in place for a while when she presses her ult will just get her killed by a widow, ash, or Hanzo depending on what hero echi picks.
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make it so whoever you duplicate gives you their ult instantly but you can only use it once and then you either leave form or just always have the option to cancel back to Echo. Before this happens I'm sure they'll just try reducing the duration or charge speed though. As cool as it is and as many downsides as the character does have to negate it's strength, I feel like it will eventually just be too much to deal with once people figure out the cheesiest strats. They could also manipulate the health so changing to Rein wouldn't be so broken.
Yep, thats DEFF getting nerfed, end of story. Looks epic af though, and im sure we'd have a blast using it, but to be able to copy someone mid air, then while falling hit literally TWO shots to charge your ult as mccree, then as you hit the floor, pop your ult....all within like 5 seconds...thats just cracked bro lol.
if they nerf her sticky bombs a bit and then her ult generation while playing as another hero, she would probably be fine to play, like he said her beam and is good and bad at the same time and i think its fine the way it is
This is gonna be interesting to see how she will be played. Cause she has very high output but also is very low in the defensive category. No doubt there will be nerfs to the duplicate, but just wondering what they're gonna nerf. They can put a cap on how many ults you can have within the duration or they can make it where each ult you use has a slow recharge speed after. Or you can nerf the hero they switch to where they have lower health our that every hero has 200 health. They could also nerf the duplicated hero dmg output. But, since she is so weak in the defensive category, giving her a massive nerf will maybe kill her.
They should reduce the ult charge for duplicated heroes by only a little bit and reduce the damage by a lot She’s broken asf Edit: forgot sombra is a thing
xQc they are clearly going to be making changes to her over time to make her more balanced and she wont be in competative for a while theres no reason to be upset about her abilitys
@@hirojian917 It's melts enemies below half, but if theyre above half it's absolutely dogshit. It might be OP for breaking shields though. And yes, she seems like a very high damage output character, but has very low sustainability.
Lmfao this is insane. I’ve always loved that blizzard has balanced weaker ultimates like tracers and mercys with faster charge rates and in mercys case a 15 sec ultimately because her ult is so lack luster... and then we have characters with really strong ults that take way more time to build up and last for a short time like zarya and zen. Echos ult completely goes against all of this. Super OP and lasts as long as mercys ult... lmfao what is wrong with the devs, they must be really out of touch with their community. Nobody asked for another broken dps. I feel so bad for tank mains. it’s going to be so annoying when teams run echo, pharah and mercy.
why do they have to reuse assets for every hero, like is it that hard to come up with new design mechanics? pharah and mercy shift, moira e and junkrat-ISH right click, come on man, try harder
5 minutes into xQc talking with Jeff:
"So do you have a girlfriend? Does she have the juice?"
"dud dud dud like dud"
"is she hot?"
“For me, ofcourse”
“Are you married, actually never mind who cares forsenCD”
I'd give it until the 3rd week until it won't be able to do any damage PepeLaugh
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Weirdchamp
그림럴 china lost to bats PepeLaugh
Zakoos ‘ ?
Zakoos ‘ You mean every country lmao... corvonvirus PepeLaugh
I bet Echo as Torb is basically just gonna be a molten core fountain with the turret helping build ult charge
And the turret will stick around after the 15 seconds
Everybody gangsta till there’s two mei’s stalling point
Everbody gangsta till there's 3 Diva nukes flying onto point
Yea. Or 7 hammonds...
or 2 reins with shatter, impossible to avoid
Tracer: You cant deal enough damage before i recall.
Echo: 200 dps to targets under half health
@@skillorb There is no world in existence where Doomfist counters Echo. She literally flies
Yeah doom junk and reaper are also the best counters for echo!!
@FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation Pharah can stay airborne indefinitely as well
@@Greentextstories12 my boy, reaper? Doom? Am I missing a rework where they can fly?
@@rafaelmonteiro9380 My boy, do you not understand sarcasm? I was making fun of skill orb saying that doomfist, a close range character counters echo.
echo ults to reinhardt, charges the rein, shatters
uh huh balanced...
Bazen I think people forget the fact that one it’s an ult 2 she can get off that character if she dies true it’s to strong I think you should only be able to do 1 ult then get forced to swap
It's balanced since both teams can use echo.
water5000
just mirror 4Head
bro shes a fucking mosquito with 200 hp.. Dafran was playing her yesterday and a plat normie was eating his ass with ana. She is not that strong as it looks like
Don't worry, she will be nerfed within 1 week
"Oh, just Tim now?"
*Closes tab*
EchoTheWorld damn I got salt in my eyes reading this
I heccn died when he did that😂😂😂😂
I mean tim has always been an obnoxious loser but hes left alone cus he absorbed most of the weebs n cucks from all the other streams
And his face before he did lmao
Imagine flying and then turning into rein then falling out of sky
But everyone forgot when she transform she doesn’t get the ult immediately as Reinhart, but it’s still broken
Ka Lok Lai if she lands on at least 3 enimies she could swing 2-3 times and get it
@@lolpo423 Maybe possibly Echo can shoot once, or put her sticky bombs right before ult, then the damage output could count as the new character's damage and instantly get the new character's ultimate. I dunno if it works that way or not...
@@TehCranZ that’ll be broken
@@lolpo423 yeah but I mean she not getting the ult in the sky
I swear, every game is like this. The initial wave is pretty standard/basic, then years later the new characters are decked out with the craziest, stupidest shit ever.
league of legends just shat it pants reading this.
@@zzeroara9511 but at least league reworks the old champs to fit the new. That will never happen with overwatch lol
Mortally Challenged Yea lmao it’s called a power creep
@@nickpavon4388 They definitely have reworked characters in the past.
Anime profile Pic = irrelevant opinion
Blizzard: we want more people to play tanks.
Also Blizzard: *releases the biggest counter to all tanks yet*
I still think thats reaper, hes fucking annoying as shit. literally like 200 damage a shot if you hit in the head. in a perfect world, he could kill a roadhog in 3 shots.
@@rreprah9515 Damn that's a plat chat right there.
it is on PTR, and you guys treating it like it is on Live.... Cringe Chat
What do u mean tanks r op right know they have to be nerfed
Devon dude I’m low masters tank and found a guy who climbed from plat to masters in 2 seasons one tricking reaper
Echo’s skins are going to be cool I think.
More skins more rule 34
Atallah Raihan any losers kreygasm
Imagine duping zarya then graving, your zarya gets her grav from you then she gravs and you get a 2ND GRAV repeat this process and then your zarya has a stockpiled grav to win the NEXT TEAM FIGHT INSTANTLY.
WAYTOODANK
WAYTOODANK
12:23 SIX CONSOLES, 10 MONITORS, DOG CAM, CAT CAM.
Cock cam
@@viastis4107 the only one that matters tbh
SATELLITE, ANALYZER, GAMING GUITAR, DRUMS, PEDALS
Idk why I even watched this whole thing I've never even played overwatch
Dolphin Reverse lmao xqc got me into ow
Kinda similar, I played it once when Doomfist was introduced but never bought the game since I found Paladins to be more fun (before bugs ruined that too).
@Dark PePe It's not a very beginner welcoming game and the community can be very toxic. A lot of people don't have good enough hardware to run it well too. Plus you can't imagine how many people haven't actually played Chess either.
@@marcusshane i have played chess and paladins and never played ow
But i live in a poor country witch means i can't buy shit online
All heroes : WHO R U?!
Echo: I'm all of you, but better.
I'm all of you, but on steroids
No disrespect to Timmy but why was he chosen to showcase this? I mean he always says he hates Overwatch, these days and
there are streamers who still play this game daily after many years. Maybe its just brand safety?
Yeah fat man tim has hated on OW before, don't know why he was chosen
he's a very consistent and big name, especially for the overwatch community. plus, when I think tim I think memes and goofing around. I don't think he's ever really been too known for his anger towards anything, especially the game lol. plus its just meta to say you hate the game you play, it happens everywhere. would be pretty dumb to hold that against someone
Well for one thing, Tim May have hated on the game in the past(which who could blame him they’ve made tons of stupid decisions with overwatch) but he isn’t nearly as toxic as some of these other streamers like XQC himself. Matter of fact Tim isn’t toxic whatsoever whereas a lot of these other guys all they fucking do is complain and cry about literally everything.
Multiple zen ults I can already see it
Turtle Boy ultimate stall meta
Multiple Lucio Ults...
multiple ana ults yikes we’re screwed guys
@@pibishu5134 you can only get one sry if you watch stylosas or unitlost channel he does all of them and how many you can get
@@ArkyBarky141 oh yes! Thank you for letting me know, that would be a disaster.
Echo needs a limit of 1 ultimate per clone
Actually good idea, that way zarya and stuff is still cloneable (as opposed to reducing ult charge rate)
No, that makes it useless, its the same as every other hero except it isn’t instantly used, it’s just a worse version of every ult
@@bobrossslittlebitch8948 Idk full health, abilities ready, near instant ultimate, then back to regular echo. Don't see why you need a bunch of ultimates lol.
Shes definitely gonna get nerfed. But she has a cool concept.
Sad thing is I couldn't play with her because my PC isnt very good so when I tried locking her everyone else had already done so 😪
Genesis Osuna try almost no limits and you get to try her ezpz
@@minami_janai that's what I was doing but it looks like theres a 4 character limit to no limits now?
I had to play on training range
Just click faster
Genesis Osuna it’s only limited for this patch because if everyone was echo her ult wouldn’t work
Too real PepeHands
1:23 When ur dad is about to beat u but he takes to long
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This is one of the most rarted comments I've ever read but it still made me laugh
?????
@@JimmyM.McGill "rarted" Pepega
@@yeezyy_ye Never seen the word rarted before PepeLaugh
5:59 “channel a beam fo- chan- EY”
this got me laughing pretty hard lmao
NEEKO + SYLAS OMEGALUL
I love chat.
True
Morphling
When Jeff talked about OWL, I just realized that it takes longer to say "OWL" than saying "Overwatch League".
WAYTOODANK
15 seconds is way too long. Maybe half the time? Because imagine having 3 shattered in 15 seconds. YEP BALANCED
4TL Hacks at this point OW is fucked up broken by Pepega devs.
Ayaya clap
You won't get three shatters in an actual game unless you purposely miss every time. You can't get ult charge from shattered enemies.
Nah 15 seconds is fine, 1 ultimate per clone is better imo
you can ult like 70 times in that period who thought this was a good idea jesus christ
Someone said “can’t wait for the porn”
😂😂😂I’m dead
ye bruh im ded yeet
Bruh you can have an Echo, Pharah, Mercy, Lucio, D.va and a Sigma, and your team can be solely focused on the air lmao.
Sigmaaaaaa ehhhhh
Winston but ye
I was thinking Sigma because his ult, he got a flying speed buff recently, but yeah Winston works too lol
WindBlaze Anims and wrecking ball
Focusing Beam looks like Tien Shinhan's Tri-beam? 😊
@Tesco worker Lewis bait?
Cant wait for triple sombra ults Weirdchamp
So mad rn cause I’m a hog main, annoying ass echos are gonna be flying around and make my hook accuracy go down
She's got damage for sure, but she seems incredibly vulnerable and easily countered by a good McCree or Widow. Like Pharah, but a bit better.
Thank uuu
Balanced as all things should be
this looks really dangerous, because echo's kit can be both high dps and flanker
The only way she could be balanced is if she couldn’t fly that’s ridiculous with those abilities.
Restreaming the stream and posting it to TH-cam Pog
Are people forgetting real players will run the fuck away, and there will be times she won't get any ults in her ult?
I think we good see a meta with sigma and echo. Because sigmas ultimately takes them to half then echo can finish them with the beam.
The crazy part is having two of the same ults at the same time: double hanzo dragons, double pulse bomb, double grav, double shatter, DOUBLE BLIZZARD
THE FACT THAT X SAID FASTEST TIME TO KILL ON A TANK EVEN BEFORE THE BEAM THAT MELTS TANKS FASTER SADGE
They should of brought a pro player on instead of Tim. He was asking the wrong questions.
tmoe_ow WHY TIM?!
They did with Sinatraa
This character really allows creativity, like jeff wanted us to start doing; instead of us just running goats, like we did in 2018.
5:09
Reaper: Am I a joke to you?
We are gonna have to wait like 30 mins in dps queue when echo comes out 😓
*The easier explaination of her ult:* So you can basically get The ultimate bility of any character from the enemy team
Rein or Zarya are done for with this new ult, I’m not happy about how unbalanced she looks rn
Tracer is about to meet her best friend
Shes definitely op but the fact that she sits in place for a while when she presses her ult will just get her killed by a widow, ash, or Hanzo depending on what hero echi picks.
I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make it so whoever you duplicate gives you their ult instantly but you can only use it once and then you either leave form or just always have the option to cancel back to Echo. Before this happens I'm sure they'll just try reducing the duration or charge speed though. As cool as it is and as many downsides as the character does have to negate it's strength, I feel like it will eventually just be too much to deal with once people figure out the cheesiest strats. They could also manipulate the health so changing to Rein wouldn't be so broken.
she is going to be a must pick in ranked
Imagine 2 reins shattering and charging you at the same time...
So she's a pharah but a hell of a lot more maneuverable and does way more damage. Sounds balanced
When doomfist came out:Omg he is OP
Echo:LUL
Yep, thats DEFF getting nerfed, end of story. Looks epic af though, and im sure we'd have a blast using it, but to be able to copy someone mid air, then while falling hit literally TWO shots to charge your ult as mccree, then as you hit the floor, pop your ult....all within like 5 seconds...thats just cracked bro lol.
atleast now you train on targets with bigger health bars, as you can damage the heroes you spawn in.
A person on The enemy team: that d.va ult was so close hitting me.
Echo: wanna see another one?
if they nerf her sticky bombs a bit and then her ult generation while playing as another hero, she would probably be fine to play, like he said her beam and is good and bad at the same time and i think its fine the way it is
We miss Jeff 😢and miss Overwatch 1
Jeff really picked tim only because he brings in the most viewers for overwatch when he does stream it, lol
Honestly this hero looks so fucking dope. I'm sure she'll get nerfed but it looks so fun
"we have multiple tanks and supports in development" meanwhile she was the last hero for overwatch 2
I think echo's playstyle is gonna be similar to doomfist: you go in, you get kills, you get the fuck out
*If Neeko and Sylas had a child*
We have more DPS than tanks or healers combined. Lets add a game breaking DPS!
So we're watching XQC watching Jeff watching Tim watching Echo
This is gonna be interesting to see how she will be played. Cause she has very high output but also is very low in the defensive category. No doubt there will be nerfs to the duplicate, but just wondering what they're gonna nerf. They can put a cap on how many ults you can have within the duration or they can make it where each ult you use has a slow recharge speed after. Or you can nerf the hero they switch to where they have lower health our that every hero has 200 health. They could also nerf the duplicated hero dmg output. But, since she is so weak in the defensive category, giving her a massive nerf will maybe kill her.
0:41someone said icant wait for the p0rn lol
Jerry Fortnite look at those metal panels Kreygasm
Coomers
Blizard really trying to discourage tank players from playing tanks
She's BROKEN !
"I- I have mixed feelings about this" You have mixed feelings about every single champ released ever.
Says more about the game than the player
They should allow you to get your ult faster but only once per ult instead of 2 or a ton if your tracer
Echo is cool and everything but Jeff can talk without opening his mouth and he barely moved or winked for nearly 40 minutes. Im impressed
Jeff Kaplan runs this game and hes gold LMAO..
You are literally getting 1-3 ults for the price of one. BALANCED 4HEad
Sombra mains are gonna have a fun time playing against echo
Ult should just be like sylas so that when you copy someone you just get their ult instantly (then after you can't recharge that ult as that hero)
Pepega Clap
They should reduce the ult charge for duplicated heroes by only a little bit and reduce the damage by a lot
She’s broken asf
Edit: forgot sombra is a thing
In the echo cinematic she is doing the old xqc pose with his arms crossed
Somebody in chat at 4:34 “Telesto Pog”
Xqc: *Sees sticky bomb* this is busted!
Me: *Menacing laughter*
Imagine using two high noons from from different sides
Cool hero. Glad she doesn’t have any stun or cc
Dva, genji, tracer, Hammond, etc =OP
This more op then Hanzo’s scatter arrow
This was the end of overwatch 1 being popular
Everyone: is that a spy
Me: it must be a ditto
34:35 Pretty good response timing by joshmac after he gets banned lol
"super fun"
-Jeff
the ult looks pretty fucking strong
xQc they are clearly going to be making changes to her over time to make her more balanced and she wont be in competative for a while theres no reason to be upset about her abilitys
Lot of peoples forget she is in ptr for a reason lol to fix stuff like if she is broken like now
So basically ECHO is like the Spy
Every game when they don't need what ult should they give to the next character: He/She can copy enemy abilities!
Should’ve just been like morrigan from smite imo, ability to turn into anyone (allies & enemy) and just have their ult loaded already.
Devon Hughley harder to counter like that though
pbriggy really? How so? And I should’ve added only 1 ult during transformation
End of the video was pretty funny i watched it more than 5 times.
I feel like this is just some kind of early April fools joke I don't want to believe this wtf
Imo the only thing that's broken is her ult. I like all of the other abilities.
@@lucaslam3482 theres no way you dont think her e ability isnt broken
HiroJian it’ll probably be nerfed a bit, same with her sticky bomb thing. Her ult is the most broken but I still look forward to playing her ngl
@@hirojian917 It's melts enemies below half, but if theyre above half it's absolutely dogshit. It might be OP for breaking shields though. And yes, she seems like a very high damage output character, but has very low sustainability.
@@lucaslam3482 when her ult is the best sustainability in the game
I remember how everyone kept saying she's busted and broken and op, but when then they realize she's not that strong. It's hilarious.
Everyone has known about ECHO being added for like a year now
XENO yeah but not abilities
Literally any hero comes out:
5 seconds after one ability is shown: OMG BROKEN NERF HER LULW ACTUALLY BUSTED
Lmfao this is insane. I’ve always loved that blizzard has balanced weaker ultimates like tracers and mercys with faster charge rates and in mercys case a 15 sec ultimately because her ult is so lack luster... and then we have characters with really strong ults that take way more time to build up and last for a short time like zarya and zen. Echos ult completely goes against all of this. Super OP and lasts as long as mercys ult... lmfao what is wrong with the devs, they must be really out of touch with their community. Nobody asked for another broken dps. I feel so bad for tank mains. it’s going to be so annoying when teams run echo, pharah and mercy.
apart from the ult shenanigans, she's just a glass cannon. tone down the 3 shatter nonsense and I think she'll be fine
shes fine until she gets ult... then it just gets fucked
Exactly. Not many people say that her abilities are broken, they're aight. But what the holy fuck is her Ult?
why do they have to reuse assets for every hero, like is it that hard to come up with new design mechanics? pharah and mercy shift, moira e and junkrat-ISH right click, come on man, try harder
also doesn't this kinda delete pharah from the game
it could be that the game engine is too old these days, dont know.