IAF:- tejas nahi mil rahe Hal :- engine nahi mil raha hai, pankha lagake udaye kya? Govt to america:- bhai engine kaha hai? America:- bhai time lagega. Govt:- humare wala engine kaha hai? GTRE :- paisa to do free me banau kya engine? China :- yellle yellle ye bhi le... Pakistan:- bhuka mar jaunga lekin 5th gen fighter uda ke rahunga. Indians:- 🤡 sari umr mai joker je banya raha.
I miss the old matrix , I really appreciated the video essays you did on different combat aircraft, they were detailed and well researched, You changed dude , just covering what's happening right now is not enough, The video you did on the SEPECAT JAGUAR is comparable to what channels like Mastimus and red effect are doing in their fields , Ye current affairs par charcha toh har dusra channel karta hai , you don't even read comments now , I think majority of your audience would appreciate a detailed video essay on modern chinese fighters, I understand it's very time consuming, but one video like that once in a while , we'd all love to see it , I hope ye comment padhlo aap agar time Mila toh ,
TBH, as a Pakistani main kouch zyada nhi bolounga magr aik cheez jo Indian thinking main Hain vo arrogance Hain. I mean Kisi bhi nation ko uthao, un sab ke first project main aik defined manufacturing country saat thi. Indian China se bhot compare krte hain, magr China started by mostly producing Russian fighters. Their first fighter was a modified flanker. South Korea or Pakistan k projects ne China or US ki madad se fighter banaya, Jo unki required gen se aik kam tha. But they continued with confidence or abhi Jeff Jo Hain vo export ho rha Hain and KF-21 is gonna to mature to a 5th gen status. India should've worked with Russia in the start, ecosystem develop krte aik great ally k saat. Didn't. Tejas main stopgap engine dalte Jo procure kr sackhe, jaise Jeff main WS-13 Jana tha magr it still remained with the RD-93. If the Tejas program was not seen as a show of force, Mk1 ab tak fully supplied hote. The army didn't require fancy new engine from the start or fancy new tech, they wanted indigenous but working tech. Tejas wasn't allowed to be mature and I hope k Indian government MK2 ko super fighter bane k chakr main delay pr delay na kre
@swastik6705 tbh it doesn't have enough pressure as India in creating a fighter. For Pakistan a simple fighter is enough but Indians want super weapon so they can compare to China
@@MuhammadWaqas-bb6ss we have to compare as china isn't in good terms with us .We can't compete with them currently but atleast we need to achieve basic needs to defend
we go alone because we trust our self, problem is not with technology development problem is in management...HAL have only 43 tejas order initially, if produce with pace like 24 jet per year then manufacturing would stop in just 2 year. IAF give MK1A Order in 2023 ending , LOOK at ISRO, we achive all alone because we have Human resource...only problem is in management...and tejas is like baby it will walk slow initially but it will be very beneficial for india the experience we get ....at one time we use bulkart to transport our satellite at ISRO, see now where is ISRO
@@shubam8625 brother military doesn't work like Space tech. Pour enough money and you can make a rocket fly, even North Korea is able to do it. Fighter or any modern equipment require many things which India has never thought to produce. The problem is Tejas should've been worked with Russian support in design at least. Not to mention the increasing requirement which caused HAL to redevelop the entire ecosystem just cuz government want the most shiny thing on the jet. Tejas was a 4th gen fighter which would've been like Jeff, but the thing is the company had to have new contracts for many of the key component from outside sources, which mind you they never worked with. So a delay of a year is good work, tbh imo it could've never been completed. And yeah that's what I'm saying, the management is being pressured by you idiots and the government. If they never wanted a super fighter, the IAF might've completed it's 200 Tejas orders. Like do you not see the country next to you? The government nor the people ever forced the PAF to produce a 4.5+ fighter, we were fine with 4th gen fighters which slowly and gradually reached this point. Again, the Tejas was never allow to mature in it's development.
Score of PAF since 2019 -PAF airstrikes in India 2019 -PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan 2022 -PAF airstrikes in Iran 2024 -PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan March 2024 -PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan December 2024
india too did airstrike in pakistan and about afghanistan c'mon they don't have air defence no fighter jet so air striking afghanistan is it even a achievement ???
The failure should be shared by all stake holders - HAL for inefficiency, GOI/MOD for burocracy, lateness in funding, etc., IAF for lack of vision, planning, implementation and lethargy by all
🎉Alpha defence ko koi Hal ke bahar security guard ka job de do bhai. Kitne din se defend kar raha hai, desh ke upar organization ko. Edit: to rudransh bhai hal making helicopter is not a point, are they making tejas or not ? They don't have to invent. Just produce.
@@pinakjyotideka he said and I quote " I am defending Hal , not drdo" . Said many contradictory points in all past videos. Unsubscribed him. Was a long time subscriber. And watch every video and don't forget easily what anyone said. Or "han hamara galti hai, ham sabko believe karten hain" is jaisa line criticism nehi hota hai bhai.
they have better economy they have one party rule no politics to hinder decision making there decision are made quickly instead of wasting time in convincing all
Durgesh bhai I have fully decoded your recipe for views. 1. Make a controversial video 2. Start a debate on a senseless topic 3. Make another video on said senseless topic 4. Repeat
I think what you mean is 'if defeat in war happens,' not 'if war happens,' because no one would be blamed just for India being attacked-similar to how no one in India is blamed for the four wars with Pakistan. Additionally, the Prime Minister and Defense Minister in power at the time of defeat are usually held accountable. Most people don't pay much attention to the past events leading up to the defeat in war. This means that if Modi and Rajnath Singh are to be blamed, they would need to remain in their positions for the next 10 years. Ironically, this would require you supporting them while still disliking them.
Most imp question: Even if we choose rafale, we will not get it before 2029 n 30. Doesn't makes sense to procure a 4.5 gen aircraft from other country in 2030s. In 2030, rafale won't give us any advantage over Pak n china. Its better to invest $ 25 billion in other platforms.
हर एक सरकारी विभाग की गलती आपने निकाल दी , परंतु हमारे जो रक्षा मंत्री हैं , क्या उनकी कोई जिम्मेदारी नहीं बनती , कि अगर कहीं कुछ कमी पेशी है तो वह जल्द से जल्द पूरी करके दे ।
The biggest issue is lack of decision making and lack of planning. There is no vision and a back up plan. Fighter to aap import kar loge....but MRFA has been lingering since 2011. Even if you order now...Rafale wont be available ASAP, F15 will come with the US terms and conditions and same is the problem with Eurofighter.
● Atlest 4.5 generation fighter aircraft import nathi hi Hona chayae. Chale vo Rafale ho f-21/16/15 ho gripen ho typhoon ho .already desh me su-30mki ki assembly ho rahi hea usko use karke improved super sukhoi (composite material +possible engine upgrade +indigenous weapons-sensor package+future technologies) ko induct Karna foreign fighter purchase karna se 100 times better,practical,possible option hea.in short term squadron maintain karne ke liye ,squadron strength badhane ke liya,old/crashed aircraft ka replacement ke aur mini bomber/aewcs/refuler ka role kar sakega. ●in future su-30 ka pas current iaf Rafale se acha weapon and sensors honge.ye indigenous wepon-sensor integrate hue to bhi badi baat hea.agar hue to 🇫🇷jeb me bada ched kar dega.
I started growing my interest in aviation when I was 11 year old,watching this channel since age 13 and now I am 17 and at this point I just wonder when. I know it's a really complicated task but just keep hearing same news every 4-5 months don't make sense either.
If you enter an exan hall without a pen...you need to borrow one...and make sure you dont make the mistake again....inside the hall you dont try to make a pen to prove you stand by atmanirbharta.
Hello defense matrix.. There is nothing like atmanirbhar. Don't have techonologies and everything is borrowed i.e encashed. So import is and will be end result. Stop diacussions on dead subject of fighter jet. Bring up innovative subjects and contents.
I think MRFA ma Fifth generation aircraft Lena chahiye. Agar cost ka issue hai to around 3 squadan Lena chahiy or jaldi deal shine karna chahiye. DRDO,GTRE or vi dusa PSU ma zada funding karni chahiye or reform karni chahiye. Indian airforce ko vi Tejas Mark 1 Jada purchase karna chahiye tha around 4 squadan , Pakistani or Chinese acugation process se sekh na chaiye.. Yea ak din ka or ak side party ka galti nahi hai .. Tejas ka liya past ma RD 33engine ka koi varient ku nahi socha gaya tha even we use MIG 29 And manufacturing.. Hama pata hai engine ma kuch issue hai, par ak option hona chahiye tha...
पिछले कुछ दिनों से हमारे यहां जो चल रहा है आपको लगता है कि कोई भी देश हमें तेजस का ऑर्डर देगा। और अमेरिका यही चाहता है की हमें कोई ऑर्डर ना मिले इंजन के लेट होने से यही होगा और हम आपस में ही चीरफाड़ करेंगे। क्यों कि अमेरिका तो हम punish kar nahi skte ।
Durgesh Bhai,very balanced and nuanced approach in the explanation. Unlike the Alpha Defense guys who just talks hypothetical scenarios in of defence if HAL
MoD has umbrella responsibility of defence related issues, if problem is at every level then clearly MoD has not acted as it should have been, if a project is directly monitored by PMO, then things get cleared inspite of all hurdles, but in this case MoD hasn't monitored the way it should have been.
Now you will see that there will be two sides. One of you will talk about dependence, but he will not have enough strength in his head. Self-reliance cannot be achieved in a day. The other party will talk about buying something from outside but will not tell you the exact source .In this, TH-camrs will join in favor of self-reliance, ultimately the debate will take on a larger scale and the government will not take any decision due to the tension between the two sides, as a result,The current capacity of the Air Force will be reduced from 28 to 10. No delivery of Tejas will be completed by then.😂Then the government will again set up such a committee and the above process will continue.😂😂
Dikho mai Janta hun Is baat pe koi agree nahi karega Lekin we need urgent dictatorship for atleast 10 years 😂😂😂 yaha koi accountability lene hi nahi chahta.
My suggestion would be to stop MRFA And buy 2 to 3 squadroms at least of fifth generation jets. And 3 to 4 squadrons of 2nd hand jets like mirage or some other to procure 2nd hand aircrafts in fly away comditions ensuring their frames have atleast 10 years of life remaining for sorties.
That is what I have been saying about Alfa Defence video. They always try to turn things in Vs somthing debate. What Air Chief and others said in Seminar was resonable talk and reflection which was much needed.
54 Foreign jets plus remaining money could be spent to develop local ecosystem. Like test facilities/Engine Funding/Awacs/Mid air re-fuelers/SigInt jets
I'm from both sides We have to complete our current requirements with self reliance And we have to import something Then why making delays Squadrons strength going down and still no positive progress in Mrfa
Radar Counter measures And all sensors These all dependent on the power of the engine and as per the delay of the new engine all have to suffer. India should focus on making its own engine at to GE as this will be the obstacle for every endeavour
Rafale ke order ke baad , requirement to hogi, paisa nahi hoga , ab to 36 ka upgrade bhi to sochna hai? 36 Ka upgrade 3-4 billion se kam nahi hoga. IAF in their entire existence has not even 20 percent indigenous platform. would anyone expect to take their BMW delivery with testbed engine that might have undergone stress testing with only 50 percent life available in it? Navy should only get their marine variant. seeing their other development program. Aaj tak LCH ka order nahi aya , IA IAF? 100 -200 Arjun tank show piece le liye order kar diye , wahi 1000 + T-90 order kar chuke. no defence channel is taking about missed APACHE delivery to IA.
Meeting pe meeting, tarikh pe tarikh, tab tak IAF ka requirement change ho gya, agar thoda age vi bad gya process fir chalu hoga mars pe trial, venus pe trial, trial khatam hote hote engine ya aircraft ka production line khatam ho gya. Vishwaguru ban gye ji.😊
2009 pe order hua 2024 tak delivery nahi hua. Actual issue hai "Jugaad" wala mentality. Until and unless yaha se hum nikal payenge, koi improvement nahi hoga
Abhi bhi effective nuclear delivery ke systems ka umbrella baccha huwa hai. Iski aadh Mai atmanirbhar banjao warna khela ho jayge import ke chakkar mai
MK2: #[(min180/max270+)max 15 squadrons] MK2: ROLL OUT 2025/26, First Flight 2027/28, Last proto FirstFlight 2030/31, TESTING(5/6yrs) 2028-33, Orders after 2031/32; (USA Election in 2028 & INDIA in 2029 for engine delays), ( if LSP happans then add 3/4 yrs delay) PRODUCTION 2032-34 (1st airframe in assembly line to induct will take 2/3 yrs to manufacture) SERVICE starts in 2034/35+ (if LSP happans then Service starts in 2037+)
4/6 f414 engines per year production in india 2029/30+; 15+ years production for 220+ frames
Sir simple solution is assembly line of rafale controlled by dassault in india.. alongwith continued focus on indigenous platforms….. we are so behind the curve that we need all the airframes we can build…… coz many platforms like mrage mig 29 will reach obsolence in next decade
Jo engine hamarey pass hai already, Jo ecosystem develop ho gaya already, usse koi kam nahi hoga....aur inko TOT chahiye bahar se. Idhar MiG 21's aap se retire nahi ho rahey hain
जब तक भारत के पास खुद का fly test bed aircraft नहीं होगा तब तक कावेरी इंजिन तेजी से बन नहीं सकता। जब fly test bed aircraft को खरीदा जाएगा तब मान लेना के कावेरी इंजिन को बनाने के लिए गंभीर प्रयास हो रहे है।
See, first thing first, we need to bolster our defenses and for that anything which will add to our capabilities will do. Even if we had to buy 2nd hand Mirages from France, Greece or Qatar. Self relience will not be achived overnight. If you make anything from scratch it will definitely take a lot of time. What I often feel is that we commited a big mistake by not going for license production of Mirage 2000. By going with Mirage India could've done the same thing what Israel and South Africa did by making there own customized fighter based on Mirage design, the IAI Nesher, IAI Kfir and Atlas Cheetah. Japan did the same thing by going with Mitsubishi F-2 Viper Zero which is based on the design of F-16 Viper. So we could've also taken the same path
MRFA is dead. We neither have good options that can be delivered on time, nor are we ready to commit such a large sum for 4.5-generation fighters, especially when Pakistan is acquiring 5th-generation fighters.
Hal ke tatoo 15 saal mein hal tejas ke 40 unit deluver nahi kar paaye uski baat karo kayn sabecosystem 1980's se chaal raha hai? Yeh mk1 a fighter config. Mein bhi nahi tha . 12 su 30 / yr bariyaa rate hai wih bhi thik sebececute nahi kiya. Bakwas naa karein there has to be accountability aur penality lagni chahiye. Free lunch bund aur psu kholo private players ko lao .
Politics and couroption... India din var din dubb raha hai karj may....or iska pressures citizens kow vugatna par raha hai....or Indian defence par vari pressure s par raha hai...😐🙏
Agar France se 36 ki jagah 114 jet ka deal kar leta toh abb aram se AMCA ma invest kar pata paisa nd time .. HAL ko 3 tukra karo alag alag kam pa alag alag vag ko lagao.. management sahi hoga
Su 30 mki..bnaye nhi assemble kiye hai😂..vo bhi 12 per year....12 aircraft assemble karne wale 12 Tejas nhi de sakte..jyada se jyada 6se 8 hi bna payege
What is the difference between tedbf and Rafale. If France air force and navy are getting the same aircraft Rafale, then why not tedbf? And why blame only indian company for delay. Engine is from USA. Ask them.
IAF:- tejas nahi mil rahe
Hal :- engine nahi mil raha hai, pankha lagake udaye kya?
Govt to america:- bhai engine kaha hai?
America:- bhai time lagega.
Govt:- humare wala engine kaha hai?
GTRE :- paisa to do free me banau kya engine?
China :- yellle yellle ye bhi le...
Pakistan:- bhuka mar jaunga lekin 5th gen fighter uda ke rahunga.
Indians:- 🤡 sari umr mai joker je banya raha.
China : ye le ye bhi le 😂
Majak to thik hai lekin Pakistan 5th gen fighter pehle CHINA badme Turkey se lega. Aur unka jf17 ko 4.5 + radar se equipet karega.
😂😂😂
Engine already prepared hai. Russia mein Testing ko bheja.
Couldn't have explained this any better 🤡
IAS Babu lobby :- chai samosa khayega🗿😂
😭
😂😂😂😂
😅😅
Meeting pe meeting karenge.
😂😮
❌️ Buy existing foreign jet
❌️ Build your own jet
✅️ Wait russian Su-777 jet😂
Watch gangajal movie.. u will understand everything😅
Babu :- Ka problem h e gentlemen ko😜😜😜
Clerk:- E sawal bahut krte h🥱🥱
I miss the old matrix ,
I really appreciated the video essays you did on different combat aircraft, they were detailed and well researched,
You changed dude , just covering what's happening right now is not enough,
The video you did on the SEPECAT JAGUAR is comparable to what channels like Mastimus and red effect are doing in their fields ,
Ye current affairs par charcha toh har dusra channel karta hai , you don't even read comments now ,
I think majority of your audience would appreciate a detailed video essay on modern chinese fighters,
I understand it's very time consuming, but one video like that once in a while , we'd all love to see it , I hope ye comment padhlo aap agar time Mila toh ,
I feel the same.
Exactly.
Pepe bhai nikal chuke hai thumbnails mein... Matlab mamla serious hai
Yes corrupt bureaucrats for their personal benifis including media house and politicians are responsible
Pependra🥰😘🤗✨✨😽😼😻
Bhai pepe kon hai mei normie hun
TBH, as a Pakistani main kouch zyada nhi bolounga magr aik cheez jo Indian thinking main Hain vo arrogance Hain. I mean Kisi bhi nation ko uthao, un sab ke first project main aik defined manufacturing country saat thi. Indian China se bhot compare krte hain, magr China started by mostly producing Russian fighters. Their first fighter was a modified flanker. South Korea or Pakistan k projects ne China or US ki madad se fighter banaya, Jo unki required gen se aik kam tha. But they continued with confidence or abhi Jeff Jo Hain vo export ho rha Hain and KF-21 is gonna to mature to a 5th gen status. India should've worked with Russia in the start, ecosystem develop krte aik great ally k saat. Didn't. Tejas main stopgap engine dalte Jo procure kr sackhe, jaise Jeff main WS-13 Jana tha magr it still remained with the RD-93. If the Tejas program was not seen as a show of force, Mk1 ab tak fully supplied hote. The army didn't require fancy new engine from the start or fancy new tech, they wanted indigenous but working tech. Tejas wasn't allowed to be mature and I hope k Indian government MK2 ko super fighter bane k chakr main delay pr delay na kre
You are right 👍
And pakistan atleast doing better in this field with limited budget
@swastik6705 tbh it doesn't have enough pressure as India in creating a fighter. For Pakistan a simple fighter is enough but Indians want super weapon so they can compare to China
@@MuhammadWaqas-bb6ss we have to compare as china isn't in good terms with us .We can't compete with them currently but atleast we need to achieve basic needs to defend
we go alone because we trust our self, problem is not with technology development problem is in management...HAL have only 43 tejas order initially, if produce with pace like 24 jet per year then manufacturing would stop in just 2 year. IAF give MK1A Order in 2023 ending , LOOK at ISRO, we achive all alone because we have Human resource...only problem is in management...and tejas is like baby it will walk slow initially but it will be very beneficial for india the experience we get ....at one time we use bulkart to transport our satellite at ISRO, see now where is ISRO
@@shubam8625 brother military doesn't work like Space tech. Pour enough money and you can make a rocket fly, even North Korea is able to do it. Fighter or any modern equipment require many things which India has never thought to produce. The problem is Tejas should've been worked with Russian support in design at least. Not to mention the increasing requirement which caused HAL to redevelop the entire ecosystem just cuz government want the most shiny thing on the jet. Tejas was a 4th gen fighter which would've been like Jeff, but the thing is the company had to have new contracts for many of the key component from outside sources, which mind you they never worked with. So a delay of a year is good work, tbh imo it could've never been completed. And yeah that's what I'm saying, the management is being pressured by you idiots and the government. If they never wanted a super fighter, the IAF might've completed it's 200 Tejas orders. Like do you not see the country next to you? The government nor the people ever forced the PAF to produce a 4.5+ fighter, we were fine with 4th gen fighters which slowly and gradually reached this point. Again, the Tejas was never allow to mature in it's development.
It took them a decade to openly accept the issues.
God knows what time will it take to solve them.
Technically another 2-3 yrs at max
It's a ego problem of our netas and babus
Score of PAF since 2019
-PAF airstrikes in India 2019
-PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan 2022
-PAF airstrikes in Iran 2024
-PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan March 2024
-PAF airstrikes in Afghanistan December 2024
1971 ka dekhle rona band krdega
No strike was done in India in 2019.
@@bluntbob6723 inko kon smjaye
F16😂
india too did airstrike in pakistan and about afghanistan c'mon they don't have air defence no fighter jet so air striking afghanistan is it even a achievement ???
The failure should be shared by all stake holders - HAL for inefficiency, GOI/MOD for burocracy, lateness in funding, etc., IAF for lack of vision, planning, implementation and lethargy by all
🎉Alpha defence ko koi Hal ke bahar security guard ka job de do bhai. Kitne din se defend kar raha hai, desh ke upar organization ko.
Edit: to rudransh bhai hal making helicopter is not a point, are they making tejas or not ? They don't have to invent. Just produce.
he has criticize HAL and other higher ups regarding procurement delays and decision making delays konse defend karne ki baad kar rahe ho
@@pinakjyotideka He is an informal courtesan of HAL.. Any 10 yr old child can tell it.
@@pinakjyotideka he said and I quote " I am defending Hal , not drdo" . Said many contradictory points in all past videos. Unsubscribed him. Was a long time subscriber. And watch every video and don't forget easily what anyone said. Or "han hamara galti hai, ham sabko believe karten hain" is jaisa line criticism nehi hota hai bhai.
China is flying so called 6th gen fighters and we are still struggling for 4++ aircraft production 😂😂😂😂
they have better economy they have one party rule no politics to hinder decision making there decision are made quickly instead of wasting time in convincing all
@@pinakjyotideka better economy dnt u read or write chinese bot
TH-camrs be like: Sbko bura bol kr mai smart bn jata hu . Solution toh vaise bhi kisi ke paas hai hi nhi.
Smart banu na banu rotiya to sek hi raha hu delays se
Durgesh bhai I have fully decoded your recipe for views.
1. Make a controversial video
2. Start a debate on a senseless topic
3. Make another video on said senseless topic
4. Repeat
It's a systematic failure
Not the failure of any one organisation
Abhi agar next 10 year me koi war hua to blame seedhe Modi aur Rajnath Singh pe ayega.
They will be the next Nehru and Menon of India.
I think what you mean is 'if defeat in war happens,' not 'if war happens,' because no one would be blamed just for India being attacked-similar to how no one in India is blamed for the four wars with Pakistan. Additionally, the Prime Minister and Defense Minister in power at the time of defeat are usually held accountable. Most people don't pay much attention to the past events leading up to the defeat in war. This means that if Modi and Rajnath Singh are to be blamed, they would need to remain in their positions for the next 10 years. Ironically, this would require you supporting them while still disliking them.
Bhai ne aaj vhi Kha h jo me khna chah raha tha
But me kisi ko smjha nhi paaya ache se
Thank u brother
Sir CG ALH MK III crash analysis video not available. Request do the needful analysis
बोहोत बढिया विश्लेषण 😊
No Tejas is coming in March 2025..Mission computer is not working properly..EW and radar is not reliable
Source?
@@manaktripathi9529 jhut bol rha hai. Radar issue was resolved and now software upgrade is completed
We need to make a assembly line of rafale in india for both airforce and navy .
Most imp question: Even if we choose rafale, we will not get it before 2029 n 30. Doesn't makes sense to procure a 4.5 gen aircraft from other country in 2030s. In 2030, rafale won't give us any advantage over Pak n china. Its better to invest $ 25 billion in other platforms.
हर एक सरकारी विभाग की गलती आपने निकाल दी , परंतु हमारे जो रक्षा मंत्री हैं , क्या उनकी कोई जिम्मेदारी नहीं बनती , कि अगर कहीं कुछ कमी पेशी है तो वह जल्द से जल्द पूरी करके दे ।
End of the day India has to go back to the mother russia.Russia is waiting for the moment India realizes choiceing west was a mistake 😂
Yeh, IAS/ PCS wlle Politician see competition mey h kii desh ko jyada Barbaad kon krega 😂
The biggest issue is lack of decision making and lack of planning. There is no vision and a back up plan. Fighter to aap import kar loge....but MRFA has been lingering since 2011. Even if you order now...Rafale wont be available ASAP, F15 will come with the US terms and conditions and same is the problem with Eurofighter.
Not just that if we buy 114 rafale and also make tejas, we will have best of both worlds, indigenous aircraft and best 4.5 aircraft
● Atlest 4.5 generation fighter aircraft import nathi hi Hona chayae. Chale vo Rafale ho f-21/16/15 ho gripen ho typhoon ho .already desh me su-30mki ki assembly ho rahi hea usko use karke improved super sukhoi (composite material +possible engine upgrade +indigenous weapons-sensor package+future technologies) ko induct Karna foreign fighter purchase karna se 100 times better,practical,possible option hea.in short term squadron maintain karne ke liye ,squadron strength badhane ke liya,old/crashed aircraft ka replacement ke aur mini bomber/aewcs/refuler ka role kar sakega.
●in future su-30 ka pas current iaf Rafale se acha weapon and sensors honge.ye indigenous wepon-sensor integrate hue to bhi badi baat hea.agar hue to 🇫🇷jeb me bada ched kar dega.
I started growing my interest in aviation when I was 11 year old,watching this channel since age 13 and now I am 17 and at this point I just wonder when. I know it's a really complicated task but just keep hearing same news every 4-5 months don't make sense either.
If you enter an exan hall without a pen...you need to borrow one...and make sure you dont make the mistake again....inside the hall you dont try to make a pen to prove you stand by atmanirbharta.
HAL banaega but engine kaha se aaega ? So 100% procurement from HAL is risky!
Hello defense matrix..
There is nothing like atmanirbhar.
Don't have techonologies and everything is borrowed i.e encashed.
So import is and will be end result.
Stop diacussions on dead subject of fighter jet.
Bring up innovative subjects and contents.
Bhai Hal ek Monopoly h hume ek nayi psu chahiye jo helicopter or trainer aircraft banaye jisse HAL se pressure kam ho jaye
I think MRFA ma Fifth generation aircraft Lena chahiye. Agar cost ka issue hai to around 3 squadan Lena chahiy or jaldi deal shine karna chahiye.
DRDO,GTRE or vi dusa PSU ma zada funding karni chahiye or reform karni chahiye.
Indian airforce ko vi Tejas Mark 1 Jada purchase karna chahiye tha around 4 squadan , Pakistani or Chinese acugation process se sekh na chaiye..
Yea ak din ka or ak side party ka galti nahi hai ..
Tejas ka liya past ma RD 33engine ka koi varient ku nahi socha gaya tha even we use MIG 29 And manufacturing..
Hama pata hai engine ma kuch issue hai, par ak option hona chahiye tha...
पिछले कुछ दिनों से हमारे यहां जो चल रहा है आपको लगता है कि कोई भी देश हमें तेजस का ऑर्डर देगा।
और अमेरिका यही चाहता है की हमें कोई ऑर्डर ना मिले इंजन के लेट होने से यही होगा और हम आपस में ही चीरफाड़ करेंगे। क्यों कि अमेरिका तो हम punish kar nahi skte ।
Durgesh Bhai,very balanced and nuanced approach in the explanation. Unlike the Alpha Defense guys who just talks hypothetical scenarios in of defence if HAL
Isee acha ek secret mission open krke reverse engineering hi kr lo agr nhi ban pa raah engine
MoD has umbrella responsibility of defence related issues, if problem is at every level then clearly MoD has not acted as it should have been, if a project is directly monitored by PMO, then things get cleared inspite of all hurdles, but in this case MoD hasn't monitored the way it should have been.
Now you will see that there will be two sides. One of you will talk about dependence, but he will not have enough strength in his head. Self-reliance cannot be achieved in a day. The other party will talk about buying something from outside but will not tell you the exact source .In this, TH-camrs will join in favor of self-reliance, ultimately the debate will take on a larger scale and the government will not take any decision due to the tension between the two sides, as a result,The current capacity of the Air Force will be reduced from 28 to 10. No delivery of Tejas will be completed by then.😂Then the government will again set up such a committee and the above process will continue.😂😂
Dikho mai Janta hun Is baat pe koi agree nahi karega Lekin we need urgent dictatorship for atleast 10 years 😂😂😂 yaha koi accountability lene hi nahi chahta.
My suggestion would be to stop MRFA And buy 2 to 3 squadroms at least of fifth generation jets. And 3 to 4 squadrons of 2nd hand jets like mirage or some other to procure 2nd hand aircrafts in fly away comditions ensuring their frames have atleast 10 years of life remaining for sorties.
Wampanthi laal salam naukarshaahi se nipatne kaa ek hii ilaaj hai
D.O.G.E Department
There is no need for MRFA now we have Tejas1 under production, Tejas 2 Coming in 5-7 yrs ,AMCA Coming in 8- 10 years
No Alpha Defense was Harmed in this Video XDXDXDXD
That is what I have been saying about Alfa Defence video. They always try to turn things in Vs somthing debate. What Air Chief and others said in Seminar was resonable talk and reflection which was much needed.
54 Foreign jets plus remaining money could be spent to develop local ecosystem. Like test facilities/Engine Funding/Awacs/Mid air re-fuelers/SigInt jets
Management improve krne ki bht zyada zrurt hai , currently zyada important squadron strength achieve Krna goal hai no matter the way .
Yes, I'm ATMnirbhar, yes we use the ATM, yes we exist.....
Matrix Bhai title fix krro pleej
I'm from both sides
We have to complete our current requirements with self reliance
And we have to import something
Then why making delays
Squadrons strength going down and still no positive progress in Mrfa
Radar
Counter measures
And all sensors
These all dependent on the power of the engine and as per the delay of the new engine all have to suffer. India should focus on making its own engine at to GE as this will be the obstacle for every endeavour
congratulation you joined middle path gang
Rafale ke order ke baad , requirement to hogi, paisa nahi hoga , ab to 36 ka upgrade bhi to sochna hai? 36 Ka upgrade 3-4 billion se kam nahi hoga.
IAF in their entire existence has not even 20 percent indigenous platform.
would anyone expect to take their BMW delivery with testbed engine that might have undergone stress testing with only 50 percent life available in it?
Navy should only get their marine variant. seeing their other development program.
Aaj tak LCH ka order nahi aya , IA IAF?
100 -200 Arjun tank show piece le liye order kar diye , wahi 1000 + T-90 order kar chuke.
no defence channel is taking about missed APACHE delivery to IA.
Meeting pe meeting, tarikh pe tarikh, tab tak IAF ka requirement change ho gya, agar thoda age vi bad gya process fir chalu hoga mars pe trial, venus pe trial, trial khatam hote hote engine ya aircraft ka production line khatam ho gya. Vishwaguru ban gye ji.😊
2009 pe order hua 2024 tak delivery nahi hua. Actual issue hai "Jugaad" wala mentality. Until and unless yaha se hum nikal payenge, koi improvement nahi hoga
First flight mark 2 in 2026 - 27
Production till 2034 - 35
2:00 ab kya hi bolu mai tum indians khud hi dekh lo😅
Hopefully this was last nail in coffin 😢
Where is "samosa" sorry tejas😅
MRFA should be priority more than 5th gen aircraft
Abhi bhi effective nuclear delivery ke systems ka umbrella baccha huwa hai.
Iski aadh Mai atmanirbhar banjao warna khela ho jayge import ke chakkar mai
The only good deal for Indian Air Force in this decade is c-295
Mjboori me kya bole ab
Psu defend kerne wala- Alpha defence
MK2: #[(min180/max270+)max 15 squadrons]
MK2: ROLL OUT 2025/26, First Flight 2027/28, Last proto FirstFlight 2030/31,
TESTING(5/6yrs) 2028-33,
Orders after 2031/32; (USA Election in 2028 & INDIA in 2029 for engine delays), ( if LSP happans then add 3/4 yrs delay)
PRODUCTION 2032-34 (1st airframe in assembly line to induct will take 2/3 yrs to manufacture)
SERVICE starts in 2034/35+ (if LSP happans then Service starts in 2037+)
4/6 f414 engines per year production in india 2029/30+; 15+ years production for 220+ frames
no intention to offend any one but tejas mk 1 should be dumped and we should work on mark 2 because mk 1 is already obselete
Sir simple solution is assembly line of rafale controlled by dassault in india.. alongwith continued focus on indigenous platforms….. we are so behind the curve that we need all the airframes we can build…… coz many platforms like mrage mig 29 will reach obsolence in next decade
Relax guys nehru ki galti hai
I am with IAF, import what we lack make what we can it's as simple as that
MRFA program ka kya hua?
Iaf chief acknowledged tejas is failure
I like your take on this, but can’t super Sukhoi with better engine fill the gap as we already have eco system for that!
Samosa Tejas, 10th generation fighter jet, not even ready to roll out.😂
Jo engine hamarey pass hai already, Jo ecosystem develop ho gaya already, usse koi kam nahi hoga....aur inko TOT chahiye bahar se. Idhar MiG 21's aap se retire nahi ho rahey hain
जब तक भारत के पास खुद का fly test bed aircraft नहीं होगा तब तक कावेरी इंजिन तेजी से बन नहीं सकता। जब fly test bed aircraft को खरीदा जाएगा तब मान लेना के कावेरी इंजिन को बनाने के लिए गंभीर प्रयास हो रहे है।
Iaf in right track but some id,iot in very panic mood,,,
Humara kuch nhi ho skta jb 2000 rs ke liye vote de dte hai to budget kaha se bdhega
2070 tak to solution nikl jayega kya
See, first thing first, we need to bolster our defenses and for that anything which will add to our capabilities will do. Even if we had to buy 2nd hand Mirages from France, Greece or Qatar. Self relience will not be achived overnight. If you make anything from scratch it will definitely take a lot of time. What I often feel is that we commited a big mistake by not going for license production of Mirage 2000. By going with Mirage India could've done the same thing what Israel and South Africa did by making there own customized fighter based on Mirage design, the IAI Nesher, IAI Kfir and Atlas Cheetah. Japan did the same thing by going with Mitsubishi F-2 Viper Zero which is based on the design of F-16 Viper. So we could've also taken the same path
Procure 40 Rafale F4 for 2 more squadron with boost up tejas mk2 and amca
simply indian media jet engine or fighter aircraft bana sakte he
MRFA is dead. We neither have good options that can be delivered on time, nor are we ready to commit such a large sum for 4.5-generation fighters, especially when Pakistan is acquiring 5th-generation fighters.
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I belong to the Langot Gang. But what you have said in this video is correct.
Where is MiG-21 Gang at ?
MRCA/MRFA to chale aa raha kuch ho rha nahi . Or FGFA Koi kaise bhul sakta hai , IAF ko pata hi nhi unhe kya chahiye . Srif waste kr rhe h
Hal ke tatoo 15 saal mein hal tejas ke 40 unit deluver nahi kar paaye uski baat karo kayn sabecosystem 1980's se chaal raha hai? Yeh mk1 a fighter config. Mein bhi nahi tha . 12 su 30 / yr bariyaa rate hai wih bhi thik sebececute nahi kiya. Bakwas naa karein there has to be accountability aur penality lagni chahiye. Free lunch bund aur psu kholo private players ko lao .
Iaf se 20 saal se import ni ho paara h ek taraf
I have ₹ 10,000 i will buy a f16 for My Country's AIR FORCE
Iaf and govt k wepons program or import m Logic hi to gayab hai abhi tak phicle 15- 20 se
Phir bhi " Hope for the best"
😅
MRFA Me to HAL nahi hai, tab o kyu complete nahi huya 20 year se?
Private company ko jodo ,tab kahi jaake baat banegi, adani,lnt,etc.❤😊
Just increase the prouction of su30mki and boost the squadron strength till tejasmk2 arrives.
Requirement bdhti jaegi result niklega nahi
Atmanirbhar will take time maybe 20 years more
Right Import Gang👈👈
Politics and couroption...
India din var din dubb raha hai karj may....or iska pressures citizens kow vugatna par raha hai....or Indian defence par vari pressure s par raha hai...😐🙏
Agar France se 36 ki jagah 114 jet ka deal kar leta toh abb aram se AMCA ma invest kar pata paisa nd time ..
HAL ko 3 tukra karo alag alag kam pa alag alag vag ko lagao.. management sahi hoga
Su 30 mki..bnaye nhi assemble kiye hai😂..vo bhi 12 per year....12 aircraft assemble karne wale 12 Tejas nhi de sakte..jyada se jyada 6se 8 hi bna payege
Atmanirbhar kabhi honge nahi aur import kabhi hone nahi denge...LMAO
What is the difference between tedbf and Rafale. If France air force and navy are getting the same aircraft Rafale, then why not tedbf? And why blame only indian company for delay. Engine is from USA. Ask them.
why you have to post video on same topic as alpha defense