Alfa Romeo Giulia QV | Will Larger Tires Fit | Auto Fanatic
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- Alfa Romeo Giulia QV & Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Upsized Test Fit.
Wanting a more practical tire and with the desire to use the Pilot Sport 4S on my car this clearly will not work. Still shopping for a more viable option right now. I do not like the bulged look or the poke out of these tires as shown in the video. Stick to OEM sizes guys.
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Stunning car. I absolutely adore mine and clear to see you do too! Keep up the good work 👍🏽
Glad to help out with the wheel loaner. Much better to try and see you hate the fitment than to have wondered if you made the wrong choice not going bigger. Seeing them in person is even more shocking how one 295 tire isn’t even close to another 295 tire. At least you didn’t have to unmount four tires and remount another four to find out you hated it!
Crazy to see that the PS4S still now aren’t available in the OE size (285/30 19’’). But if you wanna go OEM plus you can purchase the Stelvio 20’’ rims and mount 285/25 20’’ PS4S which gives just an amazing stance while keeping the overall wheel size the same (-0.4% difference actually which is perfectly acceptable safety wise and won’t mess up which the speed calculation of the ECU and TCU).
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Was so close to going with 295’s in the rear on OEM wheels. Thanks for posting this up. Definitely not doing so now.
Been watching all your videos on the Giulia quadrifolgio, I’ve always been a fan of the ats-v and prior cts-v until I say this Alfa Romeo. Maybe with your main entrance videos I’ll be able to afford it one day.
Love your car mate keep up the great products and channel, your the bomb b.
Cheers from Australia 👍
Just replaced the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on my 2015 BMW 435i with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S after a previous review you did on the 4S. A much better driving experience. Thank you Auto Fanatic!
Yeah after seeing what my AS3+ did and yours I am so disappointed in those tires long term. the 4s is a much better handling tire even in colder temps as i tested last year. i the rain they are phenomenal
Guys. Check out Goodyear. Their new tyre should be widely available in Europe at least in June in the correct sizes. It the F1 Super sport tyre, one of their new design tyres which doesn't have as soft a construction as before. A few UK owners have ordered them from abroad and are happy so far with them. Below is their review
Can confirm so far the F1 supersports on the QF handle the weight very well indeed, similar stiffness to the Corsas infact. Steering feel so far feels on par with Corsas too (phew). 300 miles on the tires, but the amount of confidence they've inspired is remarkable. Now they're bedded in I'll give them a proper hoon and report back. Been caught out with bedding in tires in the past so didn't want to push hard or report too much till that had happened.
Thanks Phil for all
Efforts on the tire size test. I’m a few months away from pulling trigger but sounds like the Bridgestones might be viable option for us 🍀 guys.
yeah for the money and street use the S04 is a great choice. and Tire Rack has a 30 day trial FYI. and 60 day on some Michelins.
please avoid Bridgestones at all cost.
I hadn't watched your video to the end before but now that I did, at the very end you actually confirm that I should asked the tire store to order the larger PS4S for me, after today talked me into the OEM size Pilot Super Sport which came in last week. I think I can deal with a little bit of bulging sidewalls, because I have a 2019 unmodified QV, and you were saying that the Super Sports look a little stretched and thinner, which would make the already larger gap on the 2018-2019 models look even bigger (it already looks a little bigger in the rear than the front), and from other accounts there should be plenty of room in my unmodified model year. Plus, living in South Florida, the PS4S compared to the Super Sport have a much better wet grip, and are a good deal more comfortable and quieter, and according to your statement, last a lot longer.
I run 295s they work perfectly fine for me i only use them spring and summer season save a lot of gas but I switch to continentals for winter they do the job
Thank you this was very helpful because I was about to order 255/30 and 295/35 MPS4S's for my Quad! I ended up going with my backup plan, Super Sports in OEM sizing as you suggested as well. Not ideal, but I've never had an experience with any other brand that has come close to Michelin's performance---their design and QC is just unmatched. I can't believe Michelin STILL hasn't added this relatively common rear size to the PS4S line! Oh well...
I still have the super sports on my car and love them.
A little surprised with those Continental comments but I don't know what you've used. I've had A LOT of different tires on my cars and the Continentals I've used are right at the top of my list for price and performance. DWS06, ExtremeContact Sport, and TerrainContact A/T.
no comparison for steering and feel from any Conti compared to a Pilot Sport or 4s or Cup 2 and I have tried them all on high performance cars I just never liked them. It depends how you drive and what you like so this is subjective of course.
@@autofanaticcars I had Conti ExtremeContact Sports on my 690WHP 2014 Nissan GTR Black Edition. 315/35ZR20 rear and 275/40ZR20 front. They were awesome in the dry and wet with great feel. I'm not saying they're as good as the Pilot Super Sports on my 2018 GT350 but they are very good and they cost much much less.
I don’t understand this at all! Oversize tires are fine!!
My car is even lowered and I fit these NO PROBLEM
Only issue is not all tire shops are good enough to put the 305’s on the rims it’s hard because it’s short sidewall. I do have to pay a little extra for those mounts but that’s it! Also my tire sticks out a little more than the rim so I have protection from curbs!
Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R
200 hardness street tires
Ft 255/35/19 rear 26” tall (+.2”)
Rear 305/30/19 26.3" tall (+.5")
your tires are much smaller in scale than these Michelins as i mentioned in the video not all brands are the same size regardless of what the sidewall designations mean.
Controversial, but how about downsizing to 275’s in the Michelin 4s
yea im also interested in this
It seems as if there is much more choice now. Michelin should have now included the 285/30R19 fitment, Goodyear offers the F1 Super Sport, and Bridgestone is about with the new and hot Potenza Sport. All in OEM sizes. I would have like to see Pirelli omologate the new PZ Corsa they run on so many McLaren's
Hey Phil!
Man, SO ecstatic you made this video. So helpful. My 2017 QV has a major problem with rubbing and clunkiness on full-lock (u-turns). Do you know if the S-04 tires rub much on full-lock? My QV is tuned @ ~600hp, but most of my driving is street-based. Love driving more aggressively when I can, but little to no track time. My heart had been set on the PS4 as a replacement tire even though it’s a wider tire at 295/30/19. But this video has me thinking Bridgestone S-04 now. I would imagine you’d recommend the S-04 tires in the OEM size? My apologies if I missed this. Thanks for what you do!
if your car it not lowered you might be able to get away with these P4s but be forewarned if they stick out or hit on full compression of the suspension. the S04 is an excellent tire and for the money if you bought them from Tire Rack and hated them you have 30 days to do an exchange for something else. The Corsa hooks up well when warm but give some wheel hop effect that i do not like due to the softer compound and softer sidewall flexing at full launch.
Fitted these to mine with no spacers fitted. I'd ignore this if your car is not changed from the way it was intended to be.
Also stick to stock suspension set up, the manufacturer always knows best.
drive my car and you will never want to drive yours on stock springs and no camber its night and day I would never go back to stock.
Wow! Great info! I'm actually looking at a 17 Quad that's currently running Sotto zeros. So I will need to get a set of fresh summer rubber. I've seen some guys running the Stelvio setup... what are your thoughts on that?
I just replaced all 4 tires with Hankook Ventus V12 EVO2. Car looks great and handles about the same. Cannot tell a difference from the original tires. Installed, balanced etc. $ 900.00 dollars. Not sure how long they will last. I got about 16 K from original tires. I use my QV as a daily driver no track time or crazy stuff. Love My 2018 QV.
that's a pretty good tire I don't have much seat time on the V12 but I did try them on a M4 last year and liked them.
Nitto 555 will do a great job for you.
the stock tires on my friends Giulia QV freeze up on cold days and turns into a rock! I am also not a huge fan of the stock tires but they are sexy I got to say.
yes when i took delivery of my car in October of 2018 the weather was hit or miss and many times i slid right off the road as the temps dropped and i pushed the car too hard on highway exits etc. in the perfect temp range the Corsa are pretty damn good minus the wet weather traction and the constant gravel they kick up all day long in NYC,
Go to Costco for your Michelins. They are an authorized seller and have sales frequently. I think you’ll find you will save a couple hundred bucks. But your tire buddy may not like that
I personally hated the corsa's, they were only any good in warm dry weather, really bad stone collectors and steering skipping on full lock. So I switched to MPS4S. I went 295 / 255 just so the bulging matches. I know it's not ideal but the trade off for wear, wet handling and not having the tyres skipping when cold on full lock compared to the corsa's was a no brainer for me. The wear is amazing and the wet handling is flipping fantastic. And unless you've got full PPF those corsa's are going to continue to eat at your rear lower bumper, just have a feel around there. Mine were peppered from the corsa's after 10k miles. I've not suffered any rubbing but I caveat exactly what you say there is really no space inside the wheel well.
I’ve just gone for this exact MPS4S 255/295 set up and on first run out this morning the front left rubs ever so slightly on hard lower speed cornering i.e. roundabouts. Have you experienced this on your set up?
@@robertharriman What year is your QV? I have a 2019, which I haven't modified, which has a bit more wheel gap than the 2017, and also more gap than the 2020 I hear. I got a screw in my right rear Corsa, and since I'm about two thirds through their life anyway I ordered four new tires. I asked the tire store about the MPS4S 255/295, and they said it wasn't the right size and talked me into ordering the Pilot Super Sport OEM sizes, which came in less than two days later, and now I have to decide whether I want them to order oversized MPS4S I initially wanted or not.
Do you think size 265/35/19 will work on my Giulia Ti with my OEM 19" 9" wheels? I currently have OEM 255/35/19. Thanks for your help!
They’ll work just fine
I’ve been laboring over this decision almost a year now. I’ve had my QV for a year with 6500 miles and the corsas still have plenty of tread. They’re just not a good tire for my environment (SF Bay). Had a set of the Michelin was in my shopping cart at tire rack but after your review, I’ve changed my mind. Still don’t know what to do.
do the S04 for the street i feel they are the best value and compromise and look good.
I kinda like it haha. I guess I’m used to my GT350 tire fitment
Yes looks just like a GtT50 fitment but it just looks so wrong on the Alfa Romeo, on the Shelby it makes total sense.
In Europe some of all us are looking forward to goodyears new Eagle F1 Super Sport range. Go check it out, the first neutral tests have shown they are realy up to the task. I'm currently running Vredestein Ultrac Vorti in OEM sizes.
Thanks for the vid 👊🏽 Upsizing the width on the tire looks best if its lowered... IMO the meatier tire look gives it a more Motorsport look a la M3. FYI I’m running 255 front 305 rear in Continental ECS but my car is weekend/track + tuned and want max grip. A 295 is probably the best compromise.
did you see how the 295 stuck out? thats a bad idea in NYC and under full compression of the suspension around here daily where i drive my car so I am keeping the OEM sizes for now
Auto Fanatic can you confirm if your rear spacers were installed in your video when 295’s were mounted?
no spacer in the video i removed it, with the spacer its even worse.
I initially changed to Pilot Sport 4S all round, oversize on the rear. No issues with rubbing but agree the extension outside the arch was a concern especially averaging 15000 miles pa. When it came to change them (14000 miles out of the rears and 18000 out of the front I tried Brigestones , not good. Next up Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 3 , very good on the rear (have stuck with PS4S on the front by far the best for all round handling and longevity). Now on the asymmetric 5's on the rear and 54000 miles.
thanks for sharing are you running oversize or the OEM sizes? im on the winter tires now only issue is the front rubs bad on lock i posted a video a few days ago on this so check it out.
I am not running winters on the Giulia it is covered up in the garage , I have winters on my Abarth 500 especially as our movement over here is restricted due to Covid so local journeys are better in the Abarth. So fronts are OEM size as are the Goodyear rears.
Thanks. Excellent video.
I just had a set of Conti ECS put on my car. Only had them for a few hundred miles so far but I like them
Alfa QV?
@@autofanaticcars No, sorry. Mustang GT
Instead of going wider, have you considered going slightly taller, as in a higher profile tire? It may affect the speedometer and odometer slightly but this would only be a summer option.
this car has so little room it rubs like crazy even with i switch to my winter tires which are in OEM sizes.
Thank you for the video! Continental ExtremeContact Sports are actually really good tires. I think it’s the next best summer performance tires besides 4s. They are used on Hell Cat. And just checked Tirerack, I don’t like the fact that PSS are from BMW for the fronts and Mercedes MO1 for rears. I would probably just go for the continental or Bridgestone as you suggested when I get mine.
do the S04
I concur that the Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires are extremely good tires. Had them on my 2014 Nissan GT-R Black Edition and they were great in the wet and the dry. The Pilot Sport 4S can be $100+ more per tire. They might be slightly better but only worth the price difference if you have to have the very best.
@@autofanaticcars still have the mud flaps for the Giulia? 2020 TI..
Yes Tony they are listed in our web shop at www.auto-fanatic.com we are very low on stock and may discontinue these into 2023 to focus on new product offerings.
Tire selection is killing me! I don’t want to go all season and your review of these in the cold had me sold. But not if they are going to rub in the back.
Any idea how the Bridgestones do in the cold and wet? I’m down in Virginia Beach and don’t have to get it out on real bad days. But I still would like to be confident in it.
the S04 is an awesome tire i have used them on many BMW M5, My CTSV, Porsche and other customer cars and they are really damn close to the Michelin on the street but are better in the heavy rain., last WAY longer and are so affordable. If you look at Tirerack many times Bridgestone offers a 30-60 day trial and I have taken advantage of that before if you hate them they will take them back and you can upgrade.
@Auto Fanatic - have you tried mounting larger rim? can 20/11 rims fit Giulia? Mine should be arriving during this week and I'm thinking going on 20 inch rims from start, just not sure 20/11 will fit or should I stay on 20/10
tnx for video - nice of you to share that !!!
Great stuff! I was actualy wondering what was causing the noise in the wheel arches. Any info about Goodyear Eagle F1 on the Giulia QV?
Not yet!
@@autofanaticcars Thanks! Just found out that the 285 Michelin 4S is availlable now - would you recommend? Car's not lowered, no stances...
If the car wasn’t lowered would the tire size be a problem
The first one on 14:00 look like a BMW x5 setup
they said wider tire have more grip and do faster 0-60 is it true?
Side question, ever plan on doing a meet up in NJ
maybe if i ever get time to slow down from my daily grind.
Crazy i went with the recommended size 4s from Sig Wheel for my S5. Confirmed on Audizine. The 275’s i bought was .5 or so larger then the stock 255 on a 10.5 wheel. The fronts poke maybe 1/8 but the 4s has that lip protection/bulge that pokes out a bit. It rubbed the crap out of my front fenders. We eventually raised the front but next season im going with the 265’s which are closer to OEM in size.
Also i did the same in the front, went from -3.0° camber to -1.0° eventually -1.5°. That did not help my situation either. Essentially a $600 mistake. Spc arms with the larger body hit the lip of the engine bay access area. Freakin disaster ... i was pissed.
yeah tires are sized not always equal and you are a victim of taking the chance trying the larger size and it caused damage. this is what worried me because at full compression and with my camber out back these 295 would easily hit my fender at full compression on a bad road in NYC. Just want not worth the risk plus i do not think it looked right on my car either. Hope you get your S5 figured out soon.
Auto Fanatic thanks brother
I hate continental tires too they’re terrible I have them on my 2017 Honda Civic hatchback sport
Can you tell me with how much pressure you ride around in the front and rear ?? I really like the Michelin Sport 4s on my qv
38/37
2000 miles of city driving and I got bubble on the side of the stock pirelli tires
yes the Corsa tires are too soft of a sidewall which was my main decision to put the Pilot Super Sports they handle the bad roads much better for impacts
I'm going to use the new Goodyear Supersport to replace the Pirelli Corsas
let us know how they work for you, i have not tried those out yet
for street would u recommend 275 ps4s?
What tire did you end up going to?
Would the non-Corsa p-zero’s work. I think they have oem sizes
i would not use those on this car not a fan of any of the new P Zeros even the PZ4 i dislike.
Can you not have the 295’s stretched in to look more proper?
not with the OEM wheels there only 10inch wide, if i get custom wheels with 11 or 11.5 wide barrel the 295 will fit perfectly if the offsets are absolutely spot on perfect.
Try the falken azenis fk-510
I put the alpin p4 on my qv for the winter.
I didn't seem to notice any rubbing.
I understand the concept of rubbing on full lock as the wheels turn, but how would you have rubbing on the wheels in the rear?
NYC roads make the cars go into full suspension compression an the Alpins are a bit taller and rubbed the rear liner
@@autofanaticcars I see what you mean; rubbing not from turning, but from hitting the well when the springs are compressed. Guess I'm trouble then because I just had my QV lowered on '17 springs
17 springs are not that low you should not have an issue, many complained about the rear rubbing and smacking the carbon splitter up front which is why they jacked the height up. I only drive 99% of the time in race mode anyway i feel the shock valving in other modes is just too soft for my tastes.
That's good to know. Thank you
Did you install longer studs to fit your spacers? If so what kind
yes watch my video on that from last week.
@@autofanaticcars will do,
Uhh phil..idk if this is a good idea
just a test, the car is still on the P Zero Corsas
But does it fit without the spacers
rubs since my car is lowered with and without spacers
Is this with or without the 5mm spacers on?
spacers removed, with them its worse
@@autofanaticcars Thank you and I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on 295's
why didnt you look at toyo r888?
that is not a street tire for daily use, not even an option i was looking for.
@@autofanaticcars The R888 not the R888r?
Ohh dear....
With that much bulge would it not negatively impact the sidewall roll during hard turning?
yes
I have them on mine. Handles amazing. No problems. But to each their own.
Damn that car is sexy.
lets race
@@autofanaticcars faster than our gt350's 0 to 60 but can it hang on the track (road course). I bet it would be close. Thoughts?
Shelby has way more grip and confidence the Alfa is so light and fast it snaps loose very easily and can be a handful. Must drive with caution hard on the street. I kinda like that scary factor it adds to the drama giving it more character than all other cars in this category.
@@autofanaticcars Awesome to have both! I gotta get my side hustle going. :D
Could just get a BMW anything goes on those things.
i choose to be different than what everyone else has plus this car outperforms the M3 in every way and sounds so much better
I don’t like it
was worth the test
Looks like a fake beemer