Hey everyone, this newest Elegoo Neptune 4 Max is another great 3D printer by them. You really can’t go wrong with any of their printers but it you are looking for one that is much faster and has a larger build volume, I would definitely recommend this one. If you have any questions, just let me know.
@@redkingracer6 I haven’t used the 4 plus but if it’s anything like the 3 plus and 3 max than it’s probably the same. The 4 max will just have a larger build volume than the 4 plus.
Around 6 months ago i bought my 3th printer, the N4Max. This week i received nr 4 & 5. Both N4Max. Nr 4 is up and running and it prints so clean without almost no effort (maybe because i have a great profile). But i think they changed some little things in the past months. Now installing the last one, hope the same road as nr 4. Thx for the vid!
Glad to hear they included extra nozzles - others have said they only got one. Thanks for reviewing the print quality. Other reviews on the Max haven’t really talked about that. I’m wondering how it performs on ABS and ASA and other filaments. Thanks for the review!
I asked Elegoo on their website about ABS on the Neptune 4 Max. The Neptune 4 Max bed doesn't get hot enough for ABS and there is no enclosure. You'd need to add an enclosure and probably actively heat the enclosure to allow the bed to reach 100 C to print ABS. I've reliably printed a lot of ABS on my Neptune 4 Pro by running the bed at 110 C and draping a 30 gallon clear trash bag over the printer as a low cost enclosure. The 110 C bed passively heats the air inside the improvised enclosure to 55 C. I run the nozzle at 255 C for the first layer and 230 C for subsequent layers. I start a complex three hour print job and go to bed without watching the first layer which lays down 102 round and oval holes, all of which need to stick for a successful print. After adding the trash bag enclosure and using the proper temperature settings, the prints on the stock PEI bed have been 100% reliable and the parts are loosely laying on the bed when cool.
@@Liberty4Ever Yeah, but… Elegoo advertises a max temp of 85 C for the N4max bed. While I’m pretty sure you could change that setting in Fluidd, I’m not sure if it would demagnetize the PEI sheet or majorly eff something else up.
@@SeattleShelby - Fluidd won't increase the bed temperature. The Neptune 4 Max bed can't reach ABS temperatures because it's a huge bed and it'd need approximately a 1000 watt power supply. That's a space heater. It'd heat the entire room. An enclosure would help greatly, and an insulated enclosure would be even better. I was contemplating a Neptune 4 Pro Max today and eyeing the spot where I'd put it, in a deep bay window, which is a lousy spot because of the cold draft from the window in the winter. Even for PLA, I'd make a couple of cuts most of the way through a foil backed foam insulation sheet to make a back and two sides around the printer. I've run the PEI sheet on my Neptune 4 Pro at 110 C for hundreds of hours and it hasn't demagnetized. Apparently that's not close to the Curie temperature of the magnetic material.
4:00 - When assembling my Neptune 4 Pro, I installed the M3X8 button head cap screws that secure the cover on the extruder without the cover in place, as the instructions were somewhat vague. It looked as if this was securing the print head from the front, because the cover is magnetically retained, but not having the cover in place allowed the screws to bottom out and leave two ugly divots on the front of the X axis gantry. It's not difficult to assemble the printer but my old eyes should have been using the PDF manual displayed on my 28" monitor rather than the tiny printed manual. 19:40 - "You can go in and change the light control" but then there is a jump cut edit. I assume the LED light controls are not very responsive and kind of quirky, as they are on my Neptune 4 Pro. :-) Also, the LED on the print head has dimmed over the first hundred hours, presumably from heat degradation, and is no longer usable. I've been 3D printing for approximately 20 years, since the time when we built 3D printers because there weren't commercially available hobby or consumer grade 3D printers. I'm very impressed with how much improvement there has been in the last two years, between my previous printer and the Neptune 4 Pro, which I love. Klipper is awesome. I use 3D printing for small scale manufacturing and other functional parts but your Frankenstein head and cat skull looked good. A couple of quick spray coats of primer and a coat of paint and the layer lines would be gone. I'd like to add a Neptune 4 Max, but I'm hoping that Elegoo will make a Pro version with steel rollers on steel rails. I think a high speed large volume printer will benefit from steel motion control components.
Have you managed to get better quality prints using lower speeds? Seems like all review prints on youtube looks like trash compared to my 4 year old ender3 printer. I was thinking about get a bigger printer, but looking at quality of thoses prints it seems to not worth the investment.
Enjoyed the review, for my own usage I require a few more items than what these printers typically have available: Have you tried a larger nozzle than the stock 0.4mm? I run 0.6mm nozzles on these larger print beds. Does the printer firmware support GCODE M600 for filament changes? For the Wifi/ethernet can sliced files be sent to the printer directly from PRUSA Slicer? Is the firmware open source and available so we can add in any missing features? Any info appreciated.
If you ever buy anything you need to build they send you 1 extra of every screw, 3d printers, bedframes, grills, install kits of any sort, ikea furniture, ect
hi, congratulations on the perfect tone, it's fantastic when it comes to setting my neptune 4 max without success, if you use a prusa slicer. Did you know how to set it up again?
so just got mine out of the box and assembled most of it. I for some reason I can't bring the crossbar down at all. does the machine need power to put the wire bracket on? it just has no give and i dont want to break it
Thank you really much for the video. I was looking for some reviews and then I found yours. Due to the fact that the Elegoo Neptune-4 Max just came out a few weeks ago, there aren’t so many review available already. Did you run the input shaping on the 4 Max, maybe these ringing and ghosting artefacts would disappear then, all though they aren’t present that much. Is it really that complicated to update the Firmware allthough it has wifi? Is it maybe possible to run it via orca slicer or the Elegoo slicer to update it?
There is no accelerometer on the Neptune 4 series of 3D printers. Elegoo does an input shaping calibration on a test machine and that generic input shaping calibration is programmed into all the machines before they are shipped. In theory, you can buy your own accelerometer and run your own input shaping calibration to fine tune it for your unique installation, but the generic input shaping does a pretty good job of calibrating the structural resonances for each machine.
😊👍 Very helpful. Thanks. I'm intending to purchase one of these as an entry into 3d printing, so anything and everything I can find out beforehand is a boon. .
What about getting a sovol sv06 plus? Heard its more durable, better firmware, sadly no wifi so would have to hack a Pi, no lubricated bearings to lubricate, worse cooling so need to hack a fan
Hey can you make a video on the quality matching the speed & how fast you can make the print speed as well as keeping the quality??? Ya know best suggested cura settings for different speeds
@ArtByAdrock that would explain why I can't find the setting. My USB was blank. Thank you I guess I will have to wait on elegoo to respond to my email to get the needed settings
Great video thank you so much.mine comes today.wont be able to print.2 rolls of filament will be here tomorrow :-( Also Ordered the jupiter se but won't get that till January.says it's a pre order.these are my first 3d printers so I'm pretty excited.
So I just bought a 3 plus. New to 3d printing and it’s an addiction not a hobby for anyone confused. I now want another but preferably the 4 plus for faster printing. However I’ve been watching videos of ppl having size calibration issues. By chance can you print cylinders and cubes and measure the outside diameter from top to bottom of print. I’m starting to assume every printer is faulty. By any chance would you do that test for ma and or us. On and or off camera. If it’s off by quite a bit I’m sure that could be another video all together
Prints are almost always going to be off by a little bit. Typically it is off by about .2mm give or take. Every printer I’ve ever used is like that. If it’s more than than there could be other reasons
Do you have any personal love for PETG, enough to try running it on this printer? I got mine a few days back and have been STRUGGLING to get a good print with my preferred Zyltech PETG. Any advice would be the greatest thing in the world!
I haven’t used PETG on this printer yet however I have used it on the first Neptune 4 without any issues. Have you tried a different brand and what settings are you using?
Hi, GREAT video. I would suggest to make your tests apples to apples, I would have done the Frankenstein model AGAIN with the changed settings. The supports were larger than the cat so it would have been better, in my opinion, to use the same file for both prints. Also, do you have a favorite for a printer? I was thinking of this Neptune, or a Anycubic Kobra 2 Max 3D Printer, or FLSUN V400 3D Printer. Do you have any experience with any of those or ideas about them? Thanks, and again, great video.... Craig
Mine must be faulty. Set z offset leveled bed both manually and automatically and set offset again, wouldn't save the z offset, updated firmware, still won't save the z offset
I haven’t tried the P1S so I can’t say how good it is. Is there a reason why you want/need to print with ABS? I avoid it on every machine even ones that it works well on. PLA and PETG are the filaments I used 99% of the time.
@@ArtByAdrockliterally only 1 reason. Because I can make it smooth with no effort within 20 mins with acetone It adds a whole like new option to 3D models And if it’s enclosed too it says u can print even more exotic stuff? It has a built in carbon filter in the P1S but I think it’s smaller plate However even tho they have the same speed it says 500mms The Bambu won in speed So idk Also I have a printer called the Monoprice select mini Pro It’s literally 4 years ago Haven’t used jt for that long either lol So tryna decide wether to even get one Problem is modern printers are easy It has loads of auto features The Bambu can even print multiple colours on its own with the ams The old one I have it’s constantly needing manual mess around And it’s tiny the things you can print Also very slow But idk
Hey everyone, this newest Elegoo Neptune 4 Max is another great 3D printer by them. You really can’t go wrong with any of their printers but it you are looking for one that is much faster and has a larger build volume, I would definitely recommend this one. If you have any questions, just let me know.
How similar is to the plus? Apart from form factor
@@redkingracer6 I haven’t used the 4 plus but if it’s anything like the 3 plus and 3 max than it’s probably the same. The 4 max will just have a larger build volume than the 4 plus.
@@ArtByAdrock thanks
Has anyone printed you on these Elegoo printers? Is it any good. I'm looking into getting the Neptune 4 Max. I'll be using Orca Slicer as well
Can you show us the electrics and the motherboard and PCBs?
Great vid. Really helped me get mine set up and going. Thank you!
Around 6 months ago i bought my 3th printer, the N4Max. This week i received nr 4 & 5. Both N4Max. Nr 4 is up and running and it prints so clean without almost no effort (maybe because i have a great profile). But i think they changed some little things in the past months. Now installing the last one, hope the same road as nr 4. Thx for the vid!
What slicer do u use ?
@@Lavelakalife Orca, base profile is from Colossus. Made some tweaks but it's good!
Glad to hear they included extra nozzles - others have said they only got one. Thanks for reviewing the print quality. Other reviews on the Max haven’t really talked about that. I’m wondering how it performs on ABS and ASA and other filaments. Thanks for the review!
I asked Elegoo on their website about ABS on the Neptune 4 Max. The Neptune 4 Max bed doesn't get hot enough for ABS and there is no enclosure. You'd need to add an enclosure and probably actively heat the enclosure to allow the bed to reach 100 C to print ABS. I've reliably printed a lot of ABS on my Neptune 4 Pro by running the bed at 110 C and draping a 30 gallon clear trash bag over the printer as a low cost enclosure. The 110 C bed passively heats the air inside the improvised enclosure to 55 C. I run the nozzle at 255 C for the first layer and 230 C for subsequent layers. I start a complex three hour print job and go to bed without watching the first layer which lays down 102 round and oval holes, all of which need to stick for a successful print. After adding the trash bag enclosure and using the proper temperature settings, the prints on the stock PEI bed have been 100% reliable and the parts are loosely laying on the bed when cool.
@@Liberty4Ever Yeah, but… Elegoo advertises a max temp of 85 C for the N4max bed. While I’m pretty sure you could change that setting in Fluidd, I’m not sure if it would demagnetize the PEI sheet or majorly eff something else up.
@@SeattleShelby - Fluidd won't increase the bed temperature. The Neptune 4 Max bed can't reach ABS temperatures because it's a huge bed and it'd need approximately a 1000 watt power supply. That's a space heater. It'd heat the entire room. An enclosure would help greatly, and an insulated enclosure would be even better. I was contemplating a Neptune 4 Pro Max today and eyeing the spot where I'd put it, in a deep bay window, which is a lousy spot because of the cold draft from the window in the winter. Even for PLA, I'd make a couple of cuts most of the way through a foil backed foam insulation sheet to make a back and two sides around the printer.
I've run the PEI sheet on my Neptune 4 Pro at 110 C for hundreds of hours and it hasn't demagnetized. Apparently that's not close to the Curie temperature of the magnetic material.
Thanks for the review ! wanted to get the Neptune 4 plus but kept seeing people having problems.
Nice.
One of those soft squishy brains would look great in the Frankenstein bowl. 🤯🙂
4:00 - When assembling my Neptune 4 Pro, I installed the M3X8 button head cap screws that secure the cover on the extruder without the cover in place, as the instructions were somewhat vague. It looked as if this was securing the print head from the front, because the cover is magnetically retained, but not having the cover in place allowed the screws to bottom out and leave two ugly divots on the front of the X axis gantry. It's not difficult to assemble the printer but my old eyes should have been using the PDF manual displayed on my 28" monitor rather than the tiny printed manual.
19:40 - "You can go in and change the light control" but then there is a jump cut edit. I assume the LED light controls are not very responsive and kind of quirky, as they are on my Neptune 4 Pro. :-) Also, the LED on the print head has dimmed over the first hundred hours, presumably from heat degradation, and is no longer usable.
I've been 3D printing for approximately 20 years, since the time when we built 3D printers because there weren't commercially available hobby or consumer grade 3D printers. I'm very impressed with how much improvement there has been in the last two years, between my previous printer and the Neptune 4 Pro, which I love. Klipper is awesome.
I use 3D printing for small scale manufacturing and other functional parts but your Frankenstein head and cat skull looked good. A couple of quick spray coats of primer and a coat of paint and the layer lines would be gone.
I'd like to add a Neptune 4 Max, but I'm hoping that Elegoo will make a Pro version with steel rollers on steel rails. I think a high speed large volume printer will benefit from steel motion control components.
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Love mine so far. and DAMN it is huge !!
Have you managed to get better quality prints using lower speeds? Seems like all review prints on youtube looks like trash compared to my 4 year old ender3 printer. I was thinking about get a bigger printer, but looking at quality of thoses prints it seems to not worth the investment.
Neptune 4 max can print Soft TPU?
Your video was great to watch as a first timer. Do you have a video on the program on how to use for first timers?
Awesome videooo!!!!
I will be getting one of these I don’t currently own a printer but want to print some items and need a 12”+ bed size
Question for you. Is there a way to have the fan turn off after it’s complete a print?
Enjoyed the review, for my own usage I require a few more items than what these printers typically have available:
Have you tried a larger nozzle than the stock 0.4mm? I run 0.6mm nozzles on these larger print beds.
Does the printer firmware support GCODE M600 for filament changes?
For the Wifi/ethernet can sliced files be sent to the printer directly from PRUSA Slicer?
Is the firmware open source and available so we can add in any missing features?
Any info appreciated.
At 3:48 why do they give you 3 screws for that plate thing but you only use 2?
If you ever buy anything you need to build they send you 1 extra of every screw, 3d printers, bedframes, grills, install kits of any sort, ikea furniture, ect
The 3rd one was supposed to go slightly below the bar in the middle, he missed it
hi, congratulations on the perfect tone, it's fantastic when it comes to setting my neptune 4 max without success, if you use a prusa slicer. Did you know how to set it up again?
Excellent review thankyou! Subscribed
Thanks for the review and set up . What is the difference of. N max.4 To n plus 4 ?
so just got mine out of the box and assembled most of it. I for some reason I can't bring the crossbar down at all. does the machine need power to put the wire bracket on? it just has no give and i dont want to break it
@@devinmiller1635 if you’re talking about what the extruder is attached to, just use both hands and turn the rods to raise or lower the z axis.
Thank you really much for the video.
I was looking for some reviews and then I found yours.
Due to the fact that the Elegoo Neptune-4 Max just came out a few weeks ago, there aren’t so many review available already.
Did you run the input shaping on the 4 Max, maybe these ringing and ghosting artefacts would disappear then, all though they aren’t present that much.
Is it really that complicated to update the Firmware allthough it has wifi?
Is it maybe possible to run it via orca slicer or the Elegoo slicer to update it?
There is no accelerometer on the Neptune 4 series of 3D printers. Elegoo does an input shaping calibration on a test machine and that generic input shaping calibration is programmed into all the machines before they are shipped. In theory, you can buy your own accelerometer and run your own input shaping calibration to fine tune it for your unique installation, but the generic input shaping does a pretty good job of calibrating the structural resonances for each machine.
😊👍
Very helpful.
Thanks.
I'm intending to purchase one of these as an entry into 3d printing, so anything and everything I can find out beforehand is a boon.
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Does ABS stick to her heated table at a temperature of 80°C?
For ABS use glue. I am using glue stick for all my prints and never had a single problem.
What about getting a sovol sv06 plus?
Heard its more durable, better firmware, sadly no wifi so would have to hack a Pi, no lubricated bearings to lubricate, worse cooling so need to hack a fan
Have you experienced grinding noise when homing? What firmware version are you running?
Awesome review by the way, I have just subscribed
Got to adjust something it’s not firwmware
Hey can you make a video on the quality matching the speed & how fast you can make the print speed as well as keeping the quality??? Ya know best suggested cura settings for different speeds
Also do I need to buy the faster filament by elegoo cause I just bought the regular filaments it offered
i saw a post about the pro having inconsistent diameter issues on the 45 degree angle can you test if yours has this issue or not ty.
Hey, this is sick! Thinking about getting one of these and im wondering if it guzzles power / what voltage it requires
110 or 220. It’s not bad on power at all.
Do you know if this printer can take different size noozles?
ITS SPELLED NOODLES AND SPAGHETTI STYLE OUTPUT ONLY SORRY
Hello, I am new to getting into FDM printing. I been resining printing for years. But how do u use the nobs to level the bed?
YOU SPIN THEM
Is there a way to switch settings to Fahrenheit?
Does this printer hold uniform tolerances. Say a round part
Where did you get the Printer setup for the Neptune 4 max? My Elegoo Cura and even Cura 5.5 are not showing printer
It came on the USB drive with the printer.
@ArtByAdrock that would explain why I can't find the setting. My USB was blank. Thank you I guess I will have to wait on elegoo to respond to my email to get the needed settings
Hi can you tell if this model has led lights also like the pro?
yes, it does
Great video thank you so much.mine comes today.wont be able to print.2 rolls of filament will be here tomorrow :-(
Also Ordered the jupiter se but won't get that till January.says it's a pre order.these are my first 3d printers so I'm pretty excited.
So I just bought a 3 plus. New to 3d printing and it’s an addiction not a hobby for anyone confused. I now want another but preferably the 4 plus for faster printing. However I’ve been watching videos of ppl having size calibration issues. By chance can you print cylinders and cubes and measure the outside diameter from top to bottom of print. I’m starting to assume every printer is faulty. By any chance would you do that test for ma and or us. On and or off camera. If it’s off by quite a bit I’m sure that could be another video all together
Prints are almost always going to be off by a little bit. Typically it is off by about .2mm give or take. Every printer I’ve ever used is like that. If it’s more than than there could be other reasons
What model nozzle dose it take
Do you have any personal love for PETG, enough to try running it on this printer? I got mine a few days back and have been STRUGGLING to get a good print with my preferred Zyltech PETG. Any advice would be the greatest thing in the world!
I haven’t used PETG on this printer yet however I have used it on the first Neptune 4 without any issues. Have you tried a different brand and what settings are you using?
Hi, GREAT video. I would suggest to make your tests apples to apples, I would have done the Frankenstein model AGAIN with the changed settings. The supports were larger than the cat so it would have been better, in my opinion, to use the same file for both prints.
Also, do you have a favorite for a printer? I was thinking of this Neptune, or a Anycubic Kobra 2 Max 3D Printer, or FLSUN V400 3D Printer. Do you have any experience with any of those or ideas about them? Thanks, and again, great video.... Craig
Can anybody recommend a desk/table/stand that can fit this 3d printer and be stable?
Is your web page down im trying to order a mold and the site says error
It should be fixed now. Thanks
Mine must be faulty. Set z offset leveled bed both manually and automatically and set offset again, wouldn't save the z offset, updated firmware, still won't save the z offset
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HELP…. this or the P1S! First printer!? I’d say p1s since I can print abs right so it’s more future proof??.
I haven’t tried the P1S so I can’t say how good it is. Is there a reason why you want/need to print with ABS? I avoid it on every machine even ones that it works well on. PLA and PETG are the filaments I used 99% of the time.
@@ArtByAdrockliterally only 1 reason.
Because I can make it smooth with no effort within 20 mins with acetone
It adds a whole like new option to 3D models
And if it’s enclosed too it says u can print even more exotic stuff?
It has a built in carbon filter in the P1S but I think it’s smaller plate
However even tho they have the same speed it says 500mms
The Bambu won in speed
So idk
Also I have a printer called the
Monoprice select mini Pro
It’s literally 4 years ago
Haven’t used jt for that long either lol
So tryna decide wether to even get one
Problem is modern printers are easy
It has loads of auto features
The Bambu can even print multiple colours on its own with the ams
The old one I have it’s constantly needing manual mess around
And it’s tiny the things you can print
Also very slow
But idk
I have problems to use Wifi connection. Someone else?
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