I can't believe you didn't mention how creepy it is that the suit is essentially a mind controlling shape shifting device that completely erases your free will and personality the more you use it.
Oh, was that in the honest trailer? I'm not subscribed to them so idk. I just remember coming to that realization when I was watching it with my friend.
It made me mad that his ex wife just followed what Neil said blindly. She didn’t want to take full custody, Neil did. That’s probably why they have such a bad relationship with Scott because Neil just interferes with their divorce and coparenting psycho-analyzing everything. p.s. I’m by no means saying Scott is the greatest dad ever and that Neil is the only reason why Scott and his ex wife don’t have a good relationship nor does he have a good one with Charlie, but I do think he contributes to it.
i agree! Im a psych major and half the stuff neil says while trying to use his psych knowledge at every change he gets is BULLSHIT. like im not saying its inherently incorrect but no real psychologist (or psychiatrist in his case) just blurts out psych shit in a normal conversation
+daisyshonae-But it's still a reasonable assumption/concern that Neil is actively interfering not only with his wife's relationship with her ex, but also Charlie's relationship with his dad-when Scott is. . .only Charlie's dad. . .No wonder Scott doesn't like Neil as much as he does-Neil comes in like he owns and runs everything and that he's somehow the only capable and reasonable parent in this situation, even when it involves his wife. . .That's actually pretty. . .worrying behavior, to say the least, that Neil tries to force his wife to agree with him and tell her everything to do and try and do the same thing with his step-son. Because like you said, the wife didn't even initially want to ask for full custody. . .it was Neil who pressed on the matter. . .He butted in on something he had no legal right to participate in-the custody was between Scott and the wife-not him, and it's even alarming because once the divorce lawyer realizes Neil is a psychiatrist, he offers Neil to share his input like Neil's input is completely valid and appropriate in this situation. . .Despite that it's at least a massive conflict of interest-Scott is not even a patient of his, Scott is his wife's ex, and he and Scott don't even like each other. . .What else was Neil going to say anyway besides that Scott, the man he doesn't even like, is mentally unstable and Charlie is better off without him? While Charlie is in the same room????
She’s a bitch thinking that scott was confusing Charlie and putting him through the court proceedings termination of his visitation and getting him arrested
They both have SERIOUS Santa baggage. You should watch Danny Gonzalez's video on it. It's hilarious. They are both like, on the verge of tears about how they wanted the Mystery Date game and a weenie whistle. Like they have an IN DEPTH conversation about it like it traumatized them to this day or something.
The moral of the movie is that if you kill Santa Clause then you become Santa. No questions asked. Kinda weird that the elves didn't have any remorse for the previous Santa.
🤔My biggest question is what happens to Mrs. Claus when her husband dies and some new guy comes in? I mean do the elves kick her out on the snow? Does she get transported back to where she lived before? Or maybe the elves just don't give any hoots about her since they don't show any emotion about loosing their Santa 🤷♀️
I guess being santa Claus,is more of generational thing,at least that's part of what got from this movie,like every time santa claus,dies a new one takes his place,and then cycle repeats
That never made any sense to me you know. It's like ummm you do know the previous decade or decades shaped or are shaping the current one you know, But it's like whatever.
And now this generation wants to go back into the 70s, and 80s But I must admit the 90s are weird. Their music never ended...The singer would be on that same last note, not wanting to give up yet😂😂
Ok but...is no one else just slightly weirded out about the fact that they killed Santa Claus and the little boy is just...unfazed by the fact that he literally just saw a man fall off a roof and die right in front of him?
@@AlbredaWelde Still, you would think a kid would have a bigger reaction to seeing a corpse, expecially if that corpse is Santa. But i guess he was more interested in the possibility of his dad becoming Santa.
@@pedrovallefin8406 I don’t think Santa really died because when he was laying down he waved his hand so maybe he wanted the guy to become the new Santa or something
I think at that stage in his life he would be able to accept it as normal. Since it's most likely his very first encounter with mortality. He probably thinks it happens all the time. Just like when we would go to funerals as small children. We had no idea.
It also was not really graphic enough to totally scar him. He fell into snow and went to sleep. Doesn't mean he is immune to lose though, once he is older and experiences loss of a close/loved one it will (hopefully) hit him. Some folks may never get a momento Mori until their parents die
Also, how come the elves just didn't even care that the previous Santa had died? they just proceeded on as normal, no memorial, no anything. Seems immoral lmao
*mysterious presents appear under the tree over night even though the parents knowingly obviously didn't buy them* Parents: "Nah, Santa doesn't exist. That's ridiculous. I just blacked out on Black Friday and don't remember buying all of this crap out of my price range."
I mean, they literally saw the magical reindeer fly right in front of their faces as he dropped down gifts to Charlie, Laura and Neal. If that isn't evidence then I don't know what is.
The second movie established that he had to have a wife to keep being Santa. When he died they just kicked her out into a snow bank where she froze to death.
Haaaaang on just a second If these parents don't believe in Santa, why do they not question the fact that their kids are getting two sets of presents on Christmas day? Like, there's the presents that the parents bought and then the ones that Santa gave. Do they not question who put them there???
Yes! This always bothered me in this and in similar Christmas movies. Elf was another example of this. I think Miracle on 34th street was the only film that made this paradox kind of work.
3rd degree burns aren’t actually painful because you’re so burned the nerves died so you don’t feel anything. 2nd degree burns are incredibly painful though.
This is the movie that made me stop believing in Santa Claus. I was like 7 years old, listening to everything they were saying and I was like "hmm... this Neil guy is onto something." Also it showed how the adults all didn't believe in Santa but the kids did, which seemed realistic. Before this movie I assumed that everyone believed in Santa and no one doubted it because it was fact, this showed me otherwise.
This movie TERRIFIED me as a child for some reason. When he was shaving and the beard just magically came back and he started changing, goodness I couldn’t even watch the thing. XD
My Apts FedEx has to walk down stairs, open gate, walk across a patio, set package by door with big apt number on it. And they still fuck it up 🙄 luckily for my neighbor I'm honest, stupid of me. I could have had a free new iPhone.
Though something I will never understand is the parents being so shocked Santa is real too? Where do they expect that all the presents are coming from ? Since they haven’t been buying them each year?
One of the positives you *can* say about this movie though was the set and costume design is some of the best I’ve ever seen in a Christmas movie . I mean take a look at just the Santa outfit as an example. Everything about it looks amazing. The embroidery on the coat. The engravings and etchings on the belt and the buckle. Every piece of it looks fantastic. You understand how important and old the suit is because it has all of this craftsmanship and detail. I swear once you compare that Santa costume with other movie ones after the first one came out. You just notice the level of quality between them.
10:45 I think I've heard that second degree burns are more painful because third degree burns are so severe that nerves are damaged. But what do I know?
if your nerves are damaged,you cant feel the pain after their damaged.so basically instead of suffering for i dont know how long the painful recovery takes(second degree) you feel the most horrid pain in your life,and then no hot pans will make you flinch! thats coming from a 10 year old who knows how genetics work. choose to trust my judgement wisely.
i guess if theirs ever a Santa Clause 4 it will be a movie where adult Charlie is out to kill his father in order to take over the family business for himself
I never understood this about Christmas movies. If adults don't believe in Santa, then how do they explain the mysterious gifts under the tree that they didn't buy.
Maybe they’re just convinced that they “bought” the presents? Like a side effect of magic where people who don’t believe just don’t get to know or wonder.
This movie was the reason I stopped believing in Santa. Even as a kid, I knew it didn't make sense for the adults to not believe in Santa. And the only logical reason I could think of for them not believing in Santa was that adults in the real world must not believe in Santa, hence no Santa.
@@darrenmacqueen9884 I don't know about that logic. Sure, it makes sense when you know the ground truth that Santa does not exist. But if you're not sure, this would not serve as evidence, certainly not for a kid who did believe it in Santa before without a doubt. I guess someone told you before that he doesn't exist which made you really think about it. Otherwise you would've thought that witches are real and Hobbits are real and Darth Vader is an historical figure, because why would people in movies believe in it if it wasn't real? For me, my older brother told me when I was tiny. I never really believed in him, but the sharade of our parents trying to sneak around and hiding the presents without us noticing and us trying to plot to catch them in the act, was still very fun and traditional.
3rd degree burns are less painful than 2nd degree because 3rd degree burns destroy your nerves which means that you can't feel it. this fireman is foolin hard
I’ve gotten both and while 2nd degree burns hurt for longer 3rd degree burns are kinda scary when you first get them. I dont know if you only think its worse from how gross it looks but its yucky. I caught my shirt sleeve on fire and the scar is horrible
I had an idea for a Christmas story where a man becomes a mall Santa, but in fact he becomes part of a secret organization of Santas all around the world. This organization works for the elves of the North Pole and delivers gifts in their own sector. The mall Santa thing is simply a cover up.
One time my uncle set his phone with a motion dtector photo thing on it in the living room where the christmas tree was and we saw a picture of santa :/
Just watched this movie for the first time in quite a few years. My favorite detail that I never noticed before was that the Santa "Clause" has a stipulation towards the end along the lines of "...and can be removed from his duties either by accident OR DESIGN." Or design!? Is that insinuating that the Elves can just suddenly decide to take Santa out in order to get a replacement? Scott even briefly reacts to this by asking "What does that mean!?"
if i was dating a guy, and had a kid, and said guy treated them like that i'd dump him instantly. guys like him are scummy. i had similar treatment from my dads ex wife when they were together. -_- cold ass bitch, she only liked me after she cheated on him..... hag...
He's this movie's version of the evil atheist, in the cliche "Santa Claus as baby's first crisis of faith" plotline...which makes this movie the Christmastime equivalent of God's Not Dead. Eurgh.
That's one thing I always thought was weird about this movie, they're all concerned that this 7 year old believes his dad is santa? When I was 7 I thought the moon was made of cheese, fairies made the seasons change, and that my parents might get back together. Kids believe a ton of stupid stuff.
So all the elves are children, but they're thousands of years old and are dating each other? That's... Yeah, I don't remember this movie as well as I thought I did.
David Denis Have you ever heard of dryads? They're like fairies and kinda like elves, they're sometimes described as being like small children(girls). They're like thousands of years old(because they get they're lives from trees that live for a long time)and are extremely horny and lustful and lure grown men and enchant them so they can mate with them.
"He's a sarcastic man's man" and we love him for it 8:15 they probably breed puppies of various breeds at the north pole. I feel like the suspension of disbelief should stretch that far
The only thing I don't like about this movie, nowadays, is Charlie. He doesn't even seem to like his dad in the beginning, even begging his mom to pick him up as soon as possible, but when the whole Santa thing happened, suddenly he loves him and always wants to be with him. Not to mention Charlie is so selfish, never obeys his dad, and manipulating him ("How come everything I wanna do is stupid?") as well as conceited. I cannot stand this kid now.
+BenjiXAddictX4Ever-I think my biggest problem concerning Charlie is the fact that. . .(even if you just ignore the very obvious elephant in the room that. . .Charlie is perfectly fine after seeing Santa die in front of him . ..) Scott becoming Santa was never Scott's own choice. Scott never had any choice in the matter. It was Kevin who forced and manipulated him into making him put on the suit in the first place. . .It was Charlie who forced the matter on him to where Scott only put on the suit in order to make him happy. . .And even though Scott eventually accepted that he became the new Santa (not that he had a lot of the choice in the matter. .. ), it's the fact that Scott's own son forced him to put on the suit and Scott only did it to make his son happy. . .And Scott is now an immortal who is forced to forever live in the North Pole, spending the entire year preparing and shipping presents to BILLIONS of kids around the world. . .something he didn't give consent to in the first place. . .He had no say in such a life-altering and earthshattering "identity crisis" and it was brought entirely on by his son, who was being a selfish prick and guilt-tripped Scott into putting on a suit he didn't even want to wear. . . And of course, the sequels gloss this over-while Scott would do everything in his power to make sure he stayed in Charlie's life-given that Scott is. . .only Santa and in charge of EVERY present over the ENTIRE world. . .he most likely wouldn't have been able to spend as much time with Charlie as he wanted. . .because Scott's got a million other things he's forced to do. .But I guess it's okay after all because he's basically god-like or whatever. . .As bad as The Santa Clause 2 is and I absolutely HATED even the idea that Scott was forced to get married to even stay as Santa Clause (so. .. they're forcing someone else to perform this enormous sacrifice or else, every kid in the world is going to have a lousy Christmas. . .no pressure or anything. . .), I do like the idea at least that Scott finally had a CHOICE in the matter. That he had a way out of being Santa if he didn't want to anymore but he still decided he wanted to keep being Santa. . . And that was something that needed to be there in this first movie. Have it to where instead of dying, Santa does get critically injured and the clause is still instated when Scott puts on the suit. . .And Santa is actually happy because he doesn't want to be Santa anymore. . .Have it to where instead of forcing this on him, Bernard and the elves instead tell Scott he can think about it for a year and they'll find someone else who does want to be Santa Clause. Scott can have a "trial run" in the meantime but if he absolutely hates it, they will find someone else who wants to be Santa. He doesn't HAVE to. . .And Scott, through more of his own choice, discovers the pure joy of making kids happy like this, and he decides he does want to be Santa after all. You can even still have it where the adults think he's crazy. . .You don't have to change much-it just would leave Scott in more of a state to give actual consent in wanting to be Santa. . .
As a kid who went through divorce, that's just kinda how it goes. It's really hard to make up your mind about your parents. It's really hard having to deal with the fact you can't have both at once. Also, he's a child! Yeah, he's selfish. Duh. Patience and selflessness are kinda life skills you have to learn as you age.
16:20 in the Santa Clause movies adults constantly talk about how not getting ONE gift they asked for ONCE made them stop believing... and they act like it was the worst moment of their life and it changed them forever. if THAT was the worst moment of your childhood, im jealous.. cause i dont remember ever being that upset over a gift while yaknow... everything else in my life was falling apart.. and even then i had an amazing childhood.. and no i didn't always get the gifts i wanted 😂
It isn't just in this series, or even just in the nineties. Rewatch any of the old Christmas movies, and you will see that this is a trick they put in all the movies, so that the MC can prove that they are the real Santa. Santa always regretted not being able to give that mean old grouch that shotgun when he was five, the crazy cat lady her EZ Bake oven when she was six, and he finally delivers them at the end of the movie, when all the Christmas Spirit has been restored in town.
Mai C you just have to understand Timmy, I just knew you'd shoot your eye out at the time, but by the next year you just didn't believe enough anymore.
That question already went through my mind and why I passed this movie off and forgot about it. It didn't make any sense, unless the magic of Santa rewrites the memories of the families / adults, while they sleep... which raises even more questions than it answers.
Biggest Plot Hole: Santa brings presents every year, but the parents never question how these mystery gifts got into their house. So, every year, there are random gifts (with unknown contents) in their homes on Christmas morning. And the parents have to think, “That’s weird. Oh well. No questions here.”
But what happened to the other Santa? He legit killed Santa, and then not one elf seemed sad or even inconvenienced. 😑. What is the turnover rate for this profession!?
they don't even try to fix that in the sequel where travel back in time to that night, hell isn't he supposed to have a wife? where his wife when they get back? maybe the elves just kicked out into the barren lands to die. sure they can go back in time and prevent his death but maybe he was dick, who knows? life is just a joke.
Right that's the only thing that didn't make sense to me lol besides the time frame and how it became Christmas again so fast...so a whole year went by and no b day party for Charlie? But what really bothered me was the whole forgetting the other Santa existed especially in the second movie when they said he needed a wife...none of the elves talk about the past Santa ...I guess the other Santa didn't need a Mrs Claus? And in the second movie they said since he's been Santa the success rate went up 80% lol so wtf was the other Santa doing all this time for the rate to be that high. Maybe that's why everybody stopped believing Santa
well this thing had 2 sequels and in the second sequel they kinda explains that time just sorta resets for the previous Santa back to their previous life. like they live as if they had never been Santa, they don't get the time back, but their life advances to where they would be at the present. so like jack frost steals the Santa power, and then Tim Allen is back to being a business man, but everyone is the same age. sorry if I'm explaining this horribly, but its not a great sequel either.
My biggest problem with many Christmas movies including this one is that if the adults don’t believe in Santa then what do the adults think when Santa puts the presents under the tree, like do they just think they just appear
The reason this movie is great is that both adults and kids could watch it. Which is basically the goal of all kid animations (shrek i.e.), the adult humor to get the parents through it, and the rest for the kiddos. Such a solid flick
As a kid I thought this movie was kinda boring because half of it was adults dealing with life after their divorce. Now as an adult I appreciate that stuff but think the actual santa stuff is kinda weak compared to other Christmas movies.
Exactly what I was thinking. Unlike Lamont Ya Boy most kids I knew liked the movie and the adult stuff allowed me to enjoy it. I wouldn't rate it a great movie but it is an enjoyable movie.
Ive actually theorized the logistics of Santa. Technically he would actually have 2 days to do it. Given the international dateline, if he left on 24 west of the dateline, it would be the 23 east of the line. Leaving approximately 10pm, and following a north/south route, it would be far more organized. Not everyone celebrates Christmas, and the planet is mostly ocean. So accounting for all that, and allowing him to simply skip over those areas. Adding in multiple stops at the north pole to restock the sleigh for each leg of the trip, he could theoretically make it. Ending early morning the 25th on the east side of the line, 2 days after taking off. Santa could complete the trip.
Personally I perfer that one. I think it's a nice little movie, the only thing I dont like about it is how charlie is suddenly just some angry teen and that fucking reindeer.
@@folklore_of_beth Since Santa Tim falling in love with a 20-something while his obviously-over-it co-starts are obviously over it and can't believe he's having a baby (yeah, he gets married and has a baby), and some girl thawing Jack Frost's heart with her arm hug (I'm not kidding...that's the resolution to the big story problem, aside from it existing) just wasn't enough, there's been talk about a Santa Clause 4....
When I was 7 I believed my grandfather was Santa, he would dress up for charity and give presents to underprivileged kids, so he deserved to be thought of that way. In a sense, he was
something that’s always bothered me about this movie is: where did the original mrs. clause go? if scott/santa has to get married in the next movie, where is the wife of the first santa?
I'm assuming that the Mrs.Clause of that dead Santa didn't exist. I'm assuming, given that you can be Santa for years before taking a wife, that the other Santa hadn't needed a wife yet.
i agree with both of you. 1.3rd can miss nerves...maybe?so then you gotta dael with it. 2.if 3rd destorys the nerve,ten you dot deal with it. 3.either way you gotta deal with a second degree. 4. theres more nerves around the burn,no matter what!
I know it would've ruined the plot but I was always so mad watching this that Scott didn't just show his ex wife and Neil that when he shaves it magically grows back instantly.
Whenever someone says Tim Allen can't act, I like to point them to Galaxy Quest. That movie is like the reigning champ of being way better than it sounds on paper.
The experts say Galazy Quest was the best Sci-Fi since Star Wars: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_joint_winners_of_the_Hugo_and_Nebula_awards#Dramatic_Presentation,_Long_Form
😂😂😂 No, but seriously, Galaxy Quest works so well because you can watch it with absolutely no knowledge of Star Trek and still get the story. I like, say, Spaceballs a lot, but if you don't know anything about Star Wars then a lot of stuff doesn't make sense. Galaxy Quest is a movie that works on multiple levels.
In all of the movies where Santa Claus exists, why don't the parents believe until they see him? Do they never realize the new presents that weren't there when they went to sleep?
Okay but like is anyone honestly surprised that everyone thought Scott was crazy? Like if a middle aged divorced man decided to dress up as santa claus and make his kid think he is santa claus before kidnapping him and taking him to the"north pole." Like from an outsiders perspective Scott is psycho.
My Missus really LIKES it when I dress up like Santa and give her a "present" on Christmas Eve. I'll stop there, before I get to the part about the "North Pole."
i figured out santa wasn’t real when my dad accidentally used the wrong wrapping paper. i was like “wow look! santa has the same wrapping paper as us! wait...”
sangtan I figured it out when I found a present for one of my sisters in a box in the garage. I didn't think anything of it until she got it on Christmas Day
I figured it out when I found a pic i drew for Santa in my moms room later that summer and left her with the dilemma of, "IS SANTA NOT REAL OR ARE YOU A THIEF?!?!"
Michael Scott I figured it out because when i was in 4-5th grade i really liked riddles, so one day my mom downloaded me 4 cheesy riddle apps. They were all bad, but one of them had the riddle: An old woman, santa, and the perfect man are in front of a 10 dollar bill. Who gets it? Answer: The old woman since santa and the perfect man don't exist. Basically at that moment i had an existential crisis. not why i was lied to about santa, but why they made that app which was obviously made for kids in the first place.
Eidlones But why would Santa do that? The central (or a least one of) conflict of like 90% of these Santa is how Christmas is in danger because less and less people are believing in Santa Claus and Santa’s magic is fueled by people believing
So just because Santa decided not to give them one of the things they asked for, they stopped believing? Doesn't seem like their belief was too strong to begin with. And a 3 year old is barely old enough to understand the whole concept anyway.
I dislike that trope, just because as a kid you never got the hottest toy you start to hate Christmas, like gee I than me and most my friends need to be the biggest Christmas hater in the world because we never got the hottest toys of the year.
"We all believe stupid things when we where kids like my moms a superhero or my dad is going to come back from buying cigarettes" Holy shit i was not ready for that one
For kids in the '90s, "The Santa Clause" was our "Miracle on 34th Street"...and I don't mean the 1994 remake. Its a story about what it means to believe in what you can't see, and the virtue of doing so. By the film's end, Scott's family is finally whole, as being Santa has made him far less selfish...and his new behavior has also impacted those around him for the better. He has a new purpose for his life in helping others before himself, and his son begins learning the same lessons. Unfortunately, while this film is very good, the sequels weren't...especially the third which was basically "The Martin Short Show".
The third takes the formula from It's a Wonderful Life. We see what the world would be like if Scott Calvin never became Santa Claus. Just like when George Bailey what the world would be like if he'd never been born.
The second sequel was not so bad. I liked that Charlie grew up and he was upset about the secret of his father, but then he understood the situation and helped to save the Christmas saying that sometimes you don't have to see something to believe in It and It's a very powerful message of hope.
@@matthew8153 lol. True. But you have to admit it was the tone and sound of his voice that gave Buzz that iconic voice whenever you imagine BUZZ LIGHTYEAR
I share your annoyance at that ragged trope, but actually not knowing how to cook is kind of a thing, and always was, the trope of the newlywed bride and her inedible cooking is far hoarier than 'inept dad'. Cookery is a skill set vastly more than intricate than reading a list and setting a timer. I have been learning for over half a century and I am still learning. Last night I learned the technique for Cantonese scrambled eggs and can't believe I haven't made them like that all my life! You're right, it's not 'rocket surgery'. It's not a shell game by the Nazis who *didn't* have to retire to South America, it's chemistry, physics, craft, and art, it's practical science anyone can learn, and few bother (not as few as those who bother to grow, rear, hunt, fish, or forage food themselves- how useless most of society became!)
PS I enjoyed the mixed metaphor, use it myself (although this time it slipped by me at first, lol), but Operation Paperclip is still apropos when it comes to the pharmakeia cartels currently running the place as well as the ones they sent to JPL, I highly suggest those interested in a more complete picture of history have a read. It's mind boggling. You'll never look at the Third Reich- or Bayer etc- the same way again. www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Drugs-Third-Norman-Ohler/dp/1328663795
In general sure, but I'd say the whole David Hasselhoff thing already is dated. That was a joke for the parents, but we didn't grow up with baywatch and knight rider, and our kids even more likely won't know who he is
@@arthurdurham dont really think that element matters much, I didnt understand it and didnt need to. I will remain uneducated when showing it to my kids.
"It's okay, I lived through the 60's! " For those of you who don't understand this joke, in the 60's in the US drug use started to become more mainstream, and there was a drug that made you feel like you were flying. Edit: I have no memory of commenting this but thanks for the likes lol
Drug use started well before the '60s. That being said, it certainly became more mainstream in America during the hippie movement (pot, LSD, shrooms) and remained that way through the '70s disco scene (pot, cocaine, poppers, Quaaludes) and '80s white-collar scene (pot, cocaine)...
Never understood how some parents feel the need to “sit the kids down and tell them Santa isn’t real”. The kids will figure it out on their own. Why squash a child’s fantasy on purpose?
How about actually telling them the real truth that there is no Santa Claus. Because once they learn there is no such thing, they’re gonna be angry about being lied to
Eh I was 13 and my mom told me. But I did have doubts. The real reason I kept believing was because I read the web version of the wimpy kid book and decided to keep believing and wondered what if I did stop believing it turns out Santa is real and I just ruined free gifts for life.
Isn’t 13 a little old to let your kid believe in Santa? I don’t think parents should lie to their kids and tell them that Santa is real in the first place, you can enjoy the myth and Christmas without believing outright lies, but letting them believe something you know isn’t true especially until they are a teen is ludicrous. By the time you are 6 that none sense should be squashed.
Watching this makes me remember how bad Laura and Neil were for most of this. Your child has an imagination and wants fun with his father? Oh my God what a travisty!
Well I think what it was was they thought it was bad when Charlie started believing that his dad WAS actually Santa Claus. I could kind of see their point, even though he was actually turning into Santa. They of course didn’t think it was true (which was understandable) I mean, why would they? they were adults
… but becoming Santa Claus was actually the best thing to happen to Scott, because he actually got a close relationship with his son because at the beginning of the movie, Charlie hated going over to his dads house. But when he became Santa, it was like a switch flipped and he didn’t wanna be apart from his dad for one second
I can't believe you didn't mention how creepy it is that the suit is essentially a mind controlling shape shifting device that completely erases your free will and personality the more you use it.
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That's dark...
i watched the honest trailer too
Oh, was that in the honest trailer? I'm not subscribed to them so idk. I just remember coming to that realization when I was watching it with my friend.
.. This belongs on tumbler.. Wow.. Brilliant
"Well, he could be in his room, jumping up and down on his bed, wearing a red hat and galoshes."
"I don't care what Neil's doing." xD
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Liv Guy This movie had some of the best one liners
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@@dirtypure2023 4 now
I love that part😆😆😆😆😆
It made me mad that his ex wife just followed what Neil said blindly. She didn’t want to take full custody, Neil did. That’s probably why they have such a bad relationship with Scott because Neil just interferes with their divorce and coparenting psycho-analyzing everything.
p.s. I’m by no means saying Scott is the greatest dad ever and that Neil is the only reason why Scott and his ex wife don’t have a good relationship nor does he have a good one with Charlie, but I do think he contributes to it.
Dasia Allen step-dads suck in general
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i agree! Im a psych major and half the stuff neil says while trying to use his psych knowledge at every change he gets is BULLSHIT. like im not saying its inherently incorrect but no real psychologist (or psychiatrist in his case) just blurts out psych shit in a normal conversation
+daisyshonae-But it's still a reasonable assumption/concern that Neil is actively interfering not only with his wife's relationship with her ex, but also Charlie's relationship with his dad-when Scott is. . .only Charlie's dad. . .No wonder Scott doesn't like Neil as much as he does-Neil comes in like he owns and runs everything and that he's somehow the only capable and reasonable parent in this situation, even when it involves his wife. . .That's actually pretty. . .worrying behavior, to say the least, that Neil tries to force his wife to agree with him and tell her everything to do and try and do the same thing with his step-son. Because like you said, the wife didn't even initially want to ask for full custody. . .it was Neil who pressed on the matter. . .He butted in on something he had no legal right to participate in-the custody was between Scott and the wife-not him, and it's even alarming because once the divorce lawyer realizes Neil is a psychiatrist, he offers Neil to share his input like Neil's input is completely valid and appropriate in this situation. . .Despite that it's at least a massive conflict of interest-Scott is not even a patient of his, Scott is his wife's ex, and he and Scott don't even like each other. . .What else was Neil going to say anyway besides that Scott, the man he doesn't even like, is mentally unstable and Charlie is better off without him? While Charlie is in the same room????
She’s a bitch thinking that scott was confusing Charlie and putting him through the court proceedings termination of his visitation and getting him arrested
“I was 3 when I stopped believing in Santa”
Wait you remembered what you wanted for Christmas when you were three?
Ikr? I don't even remember what I got for Christmas at the age of 3.
I totally remember Christmas when I was 3. It's rare for someone to remember that far back, but it is possible.
Psychology is a pathway to many abilities that some consider to be unnatural.
Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban, I might have been in the gifted and talented group from ages 2-12 until they stopped the program.
They both have SERIOUS Santa baggage. You should watch Danny Gonzalez's video on it. It's hilarious. They are both like, on the verge of tears about how they wanted the Mystery Date game and a weenie whistle. Like they have an IN DEPTH conversation about it like it traumatized them to this day or something.
The moral of the movie is that if you kill Santa Clause then you become Santa. No questions asked. Kinda weird that the elves didn't have any remorse for the previous Santa.
🤔My biggest question is what happens to Mrs. Claus when her husband dies and some new guy comes in? I mean do the elves kick her out on the snow? Does she get transported back to where she lived before? Or maybe the elves just don't give any hoots about her since they don't show any emotion about loosing their Santa 🤷♀️
@@LilyZerep It would be quite heartless, I hope she gets a Massive Retirement package.
I guess being santa Claus,is more of generational thing,at least that's part of what got from this movie,like every time santa claus,dies a new one takes his place,and then cycle repeats
I feel like somebody must have crafted at least one plot to murder Santa so they could take the amazing job he has. Santa Clause 4 anyone?
Sir Scott the knight if ye strike down sir Santa of the house of clause then ye shall become the new Santa clause
“Christmas came and went - and no weenie whistle. That’s when I stopped believing.” Inspirational.
I had legitimately the same reaction when I asked for a pokemon watch and got a book instead
I always asked Santa for a puppy and I never got it.
I asked Santa for an easy bake oven and I got two instead
I once got THREE pajamas. Worst Christmas every :D
Dancerama6 😂
90s: Man, sure 70s were weird.
00s: Man, sure 80s were weird.
10s: Man, sure 90s were weird.
It's the cycle of weirdness. It'll never be broken.
That never made any sense to me you know. It's like ummm you do know the previous decade or decades shaped or are shaping the current one you know, But it's like whatever.
Essoje Oliveira de Almeida
Back then things made sense. That’s weird by today’s standards.
And now this generation wants to go back into the 70s, and 80s
But I must admit the 90s are weird. Their music never ended...The singer would be on that same last note, not wanting to give up yet😂😂
The '90s weren't weird, it was the last decade before the paranoia set in.
Vitani B Mamba The Paranoid Blues Man Don't worry! All decades are or will be weird at some point. The Cycle Cannot Be Broken.
Ok but...is no one else just slightly weirded out about the fact that they killed Santa Claus and the little boy is just...unfazed by the fact that he literally just saw a man fall off a roof and die right in front of him?
Nope, he wasn't there when Santa fell from the roof. Just afterwards when he was laying in the snow.
@@AlbredaWelde Still, you would think a kid would have a bigger reaction to seeing a corpse, expecially if that corpse is Santa. But i guess he was more interested in the possibility of his dad becoming Santa.
@@pedrovallefin8406 I don’t think Santa really died because when he was laying down he waved his hand so maybe he wanted the guy to become the new Santa or something
I think at that stage in his life he would be able to accept it as normal. Since it's most likely his very first encounter with mortality. He probably thinks it happens all the time. Just like when we would go to funerals as small children. We had no idea.
It also was not really graphic enough to totally scar him. He fell into snow and went to sleep. Doesn't mean he is immune to lose though, once he is older and experiences loss of a close/loved one it will (hopefully) hit him. Some folks may never get a momento Mori until their parents die
Also, how come the elves just didn't even care that the previous Santa had died? they just proceeded on as normal, no memorial, no anything. Seems immoral lmao
lex is dead
Judging by the second movie, it doesn’t seem that he was liked that much.
IKR?!?
there's lots of santas. that's why. i mean i guess the guy should mean something to them, but i guess they were just business partners.
oh yeah, i remember that now.
lex is dead that’s a very good point 😅....Awkward
*mysterious presents appear under the tree over night even though the parents knowingly obviously didn't buy them* Parents: "Nah, Santa doesn't exist. That's ridiculous. I just blacked out on Black Friday and don't remember buying all of this crap out of my price range."
Raven H See you got it
"Also parents" doesn't work. It would just be "parents"
Micko Dooko fuck off m8
Raven H haha i cant breathe
Raven H EXACTLY I always wondered that in Christmas movies
The best part of the movie is how the police just casually accept that he’s Santa Claus
Christmas chronicles noises
And then in the next movie everyone forgot he is Santa after this sort of ending pfft.
I mean, they literally saw the magical reindeer fly right in front of their faces as he dropped down gifts to Charlie, Laura and Neal. If that isn't evidence then I don't know what is.
@@an91138yeah and they all act like they’re the only people who don’t know and I sure some of the kids are in high school now
Imagine ruining a kid's childhood because you didn't get a whistle.
A Weenie Whistle, and somewhere in my parents' old garage mine is in my toy chest. Take that, Judge Reinhold, ya wannabe weiner whistler.
Right and taking away a man's parental rights just because yall son believes in Santa
@@voluntaryismistheanswer..Weenie whistles were real - ?
@@2516562101 Cool it with the antisemitism.
Right I hated neil and the fact that he was trying to ruin Charlie’s relationship with his father was insane and Laura sucked too
It always bugged me that nobody was sad about Santa dying! Nobody questioned it or had a funeral or anything!
Santa is a parasitic magical force that converts hosts to fit their mold, they are not sad as they know the change Will happen
Why should they have a funeral for Santa Claus? His body disappeared before Calvin put the coat on.
Aeuuhh
the guy that was santa and mrs claus retired as a mythical figure then scot took over and became the big guy and was no longer scott calvin
The second movie established that he had to have a wife to keep being Santa. When he died they just kicked her out into a snow bank where she froze to death.
Haaaaang on just a second
If these parents don't believe in Santa, why do they not question the fact that their kids are getting two sets of presents on Christmas day? Like, there's the presents that the parents bought and then the ones that Santa gave. Do they not question who put them there???
BubbleButt TV movie logic
IT MAKES NO SENCE
Even when I was younger this was a question that rolled around my head during Christmas movies.
Yes! This always bothered me in this and in similar Christmas movies. Elf was another example of this. I think Miracle on 34th street was the only film that made this paradox kind of work.
xD I think parents just say that to their kids.
WHY IN EVERY 80'S CHRISTMAS MOVIE THE ADULTS ARE LIKE TRAUMATIZED BY NOT GETTING 1 OF THE THINGS THEY ASKED FOR???
Ryan Mattice this isn’t an 80s movie
FRED CLAUS!
Santa hunters was in 2016
Yeah!
Yes!! Is Santa not allowed to have a tight budget?? Lol
3rd degree burns aren’t actually painful because you’re so burned the nerves died so you don’t feel anything. 2nd degree burns are incredibly painful though.
I got a second degree burn from the sun once when I was a teenager... tip of my shoulder to tip of the other shoulder.
It was pretty terrible.
Laura Smith he wants those kids to get second degree burns cause
Thank you
very true, i accidently set my hand on fire once and i don't even remember feeling pain, but i burn myself on an oven and i am in agony for hours lol
1 first degree burn the epidermis , second degree the dermis, 3rd the hypodermis
The movie's logic is like "I didn't get 1 thing I wanted so santa isn't real!"
Seriously middle-class problems
@@mandisaw Middle-class
Litteral my thoughts
They are tacking his parental rights because he got fat but they remember exactly when they stop believing in Santa
Guess they have an issue with god too.
This is the movie that made me stop believing in Santa Claus. I was like 7 years old, listening to everything they were saying and I was like "hmm... this Neil guy is onto something." Also it showed how the adults all didn't believe in Santa but the kids did, which seemed realistic. Before this movie I assumed that everyone believed in Santa and no one doubted it because it was fact, this showed me otherwise.
the funny thing about this movie is that somehow the parents dont buy the christmas presnts but they still dont believe in santa.
"Hm....this Neil guy is onto something". I don't know why but someone put that on a T-shirt
Child Of The Candy or on an ugly Neil sweater
Child Of The Candy yes.
I stopped believing before that age.
when the closed captions say "I brought you some vodka" instead of "I brought you some cocoa"
ha! you didn't put a example.just like me in real life.
my username is stupid potato for a reason.....im stupid
It's because they're Russian, comrade.
This vodka down the hatch *spits it out
*SOVIET ANTHEM PLAYS*
RASPUTIN PLAYS
Clearly, Santa is a Time Lord.
Santa or the doctor
Fool! He clearly has Za Warudo.
It's both
Santa isn't real
@@gbolahanbams1253 Yes he is
This movie TERRIFIED me as a child for some reason. When he was shaving and the beard just magically came back and he started changing, goodness I couldn’t even watch the thing. XD
theTWILIGHThunter That's called fearing lack of control.
RubyTigress thank fuck lol
Lol glad I'm not the only one 😂
It was like the Ken doll you could shave
"the most unbelievable thing of the movie is, that FedEx actually delivered these packages..."
got me at this one 😂
My Apts FedEx has to walk down stairs, open gate, walk across a patio, set package by door with big apt number on it. And they still fuck it up 🙄 luckily for my neighbor I'm honest, stupid of me. I could have had a free new iPhone.
You know their slogan...
Federal Express!
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what
Though something I will never understand is the parents being so shocked Santa is real too? Where do they expect that all the presents are coming from ? Since they haven’t been buying them each year?
Maybe via Santa magic their memories get manipulated to just... accept the presents are now there or something?
Or going with the memory thing, the parents remember putting the presidents under the tree but it was Santa?
Kiro Insert-creative-name: Yea, I remember when I woke up for Christmas a few years ago and found President Obama under my tree.
Bubba Means I laughed so hard. That has got to be the best joke in the world.
Well, parents do buy them...
One of the positives you *can* say about this movie though was the set and costume design is some of the best I’ve ever seen in a Christmas movie . I mean take a look at just the Santa outfit as an example. Everything about it looks amazing. The embroidery on the coat. The engravings and etchings on the belt and the buckle. Every piece of it looks fantastic. You understand how important and old the suit is because it has all of this craftsmanship and detail. I swear once you compare that Santa costume with other movie ones after the first one came out. You just notice the level of quality between them.
10:45 I think I've heard that second degree burns are more painful because third degree burns are so severe that nerves are damaged. But what do I know?
Poison Rationality i just commented that too haha
Great minds think alike. :)
I was thinking that lol
if your nerves are damaged,you cant feel the pain after their damaged.so basically instead of suffering for i dont know how long the painful recovery takes(second degree) you feel the most horrid pain in your life,and then no hot pans will make you flinch!
thats coming from a 10 year old who knows how genetics work. choose to trust my judgement wisely.
Correct!
My favorite part is at the end when Charlie says he plans on going into the family business... which means, he'll have to kill his father.
😮😮😮
He could be saying he will be a helper or simply take over after his father dies of old age?
i guess if theirs ever a Santa Clause 4 it will be a movie where adult Charlie is out to kill his father in order to take over the family business for himself
A Kylo Ren Christmas
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Alex Meyers would be great at CinemaSins! DING!
Ikr?!
Pokémon Rom Hacking Official OH MY GOD YES!
@Pokémon Rom Hacking Official That would actually be a good crossover.
No, he actually watched the movie
@@jacknapier8201 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH
"Neil is in the back stuffing grass into pita bread" DECEASED
I never understood this about Christmas movies. If adults don't believe in Santa, then how do they explain the mysterious gifts under the tree that they didn't buy.
The forget me stick?
Maybe they’re just convinced that they “bought” the presents? Like a side effect of magic where people who don’t believe just don’t get to know or wonder.
This movie was the reason I stopped believing in Santa. Even as a kid, I knew it didn't make sense for the adults to not believe in Santa. And the only logical reason I could think of for them not believing in Santa was that adults in the real world must not believe in Santa, hence no Santa.
Darren MacQueen That's like unnaturally smart. 9 year old with a 138 I.Q damn
@@darrenmacqueen9884 I don't know about that logic. Sure, it makes sense when you know the ground truth that Santa does not exist. But if you're not sure, this would not serve as evidence, certainly not for a kid who did believe it in Santa before without a doubt. I guess someone told you before that he doesn't exist which made you really think about it. Otherwise you would've thought that witches are real and Hobbits are real and Darth Vader is an historical figure, because why would people in movies believe in it if it wasn't real?
For me, my older brother told me when I was tiny. I never really believed in him, but the sharade of our parents trying to sneak around and hiding the presents without us noticing and us trying to plot to catch them in the act, was still very fun and traditional.
Man im really loving your movie run throughs, like they could be 45 minutes and id watch the whole thing. Love the channel man keep it up
Check out CurtRichy as well guys, great content
CurtRichy hey man I love your work!
same!
CurtRichy The Santa Claus movies are my childhood.
I agree I watched this video so many times
3rd degree burns are less painful than 2nd degree because 3rd degree burns destroy your nerves which means that you can't feel it. this fireman is foolin hard
I’ve gotten both and while 2nd degree burns hurt for longer 3rd degree burns are kinda scary when you first get them. I dont know if you only think its worse from how gross it looks but its yucky. I caught my shirt sleeve on fire and the scar is horrible
I had an idea for a Christmas story where a man becomes a mall Santa, but in fact he becomes part of a secret organization of Santas all around the world. This organization works for the elves of the North Pole and delivers gifts in their own sector. The mall Santa thing is simply a cover up.
'Sector' sounds like Hunger Games: Christmas 2020
That step dad is a real weenie whistler.
That is the single best term I think I've ever heard used to describe a person.
I love all the shots you’re taking out on Neil
God forbid a five-year-old child believe in Santa Claus
My parents said they believed clear up to 11 or 12 years.
karen hall yeah I stoped believing when I was 10
My parents said that santa did not exist when i was 2 now i am 22 and wish i belived in him
I like your profile picture seems your'e a person of culture to
One time my uncle set his phone with a motion dtector photo thing on it in the living room where the christmas tree was and we saw a picture of santa :/
Just watched this movie for the first time in quite a few years. My favorite detail that I never noticed before was that the Santa "Clause" has a stipulation towards the end along the lines of "...and can be removed from his duties either by accident OR DESIGN." Or design!? Is that insinuating that the Elves can just suddenly decide to take Santa out in order to get a replacement? Scott even briefly reacts to this by asking "What does that mean!?"
Well if Santa ends up being really bad at his job they gotta be able to replace him somehow. The North Pole can’t be dictatorship
@@LynetteTheMadScientist Well ya say that and it makes sense but the sequel throws a wrench into that logic
Actually it just means he can retire or not be santa
I assumed mutiny.
I hate how Neil seems to almost _relish_ telling Charlie that Santa can't possibly exist, like he's so smug about it it's almost creepy.
Elsie his voice is annoying too.
if i was dating a guy, and had a kid, and said guy treated them like that i'd dump him instantly. guys like him are scummy.
i had similar treatment from my dads ex wife when they were together. -_- cold ass bitch, she only liked me after she cheated on him..... hag...
Because he wanted a weenie Whistle and he was three and he never got his weenie whistle until the end of the movie and then he believes again
Well it seems to me that the smarter the person is the more he is an asshole.
He's this movie's version of the evil atheist, in the cliche "Santa Claus as baby's first crisis of faith" plotline...which makes this movie the Christmastime equivalent of God's Not Dead. Eurgh.
That's one thing I always thought was weird about this movie, they're all concerned that this 7 year old believes his dad is santa? When I was 7 I thought the moon was made of cheese, fairies made the seasons change, and that my parents might get back together. Kids believe a ton of stupid stuff.
Damn you okay there buddy?
I cried because I thought the sky was following us
I always thought the cocoa was the reason he had all those physical changes, which would explain why it took her 1200 years to make it.
Oh shit
Hello internet, and welcome to film theory
Me too
Nice
She drugged/poisoned him! Tf!
it's so funny to see the way your animation changed throughout the years
*_"Remember kids, there is nothing more painful than 3rd degree burns."_*
Avdol.wav
Snip Snip my fave part. 😂
*and then after then pain,you have no pain for the rest of your life.*
That part needlessly angered me. Third degree burns sear off the nerve endings, they stop hurting. Second degree burns on the other hand.
Say what you want about the movie but Tim Allen has some ace one-liners in it
"Does this look like a LITTLE weight to you??"
"You're as healthy as a horse."
"Yeah, clydesdale" *slaps gut*
"Boy, you got more important things to worry about. Like where you are going to get more sweaters when the circus pulls out of town."
Yeah, probably because Neil's head comes to a point.
Must be a gift from the cable company, we're getting the Disney Channel, Merry Chistmas.
So all the elves are children, but they're thousands of years old and are dating each other? That's... Yeah, I don't remember this movie as well as I thought I did.
David Denis no they look like chiddren.
David Denis 😅I don’t know what to say to that
Yes, tiny children who copulate with other children. That's just wrong on so many levels.
David Denis would you rather they copulate with adults?
David Denis Have you ever heard of dryads? They're like fairies and kinda like elves, they're sometimes described as being like small children(girls). They're like thousands of years old(because they get they're lives from trees that live for a long time)and are extremely horny and lustful and lure grown men and enchant them so they can mate with them.
When you realize the whole movie is just a series of events caused by people trying to shut up Charlie...
The adults were stupid!
Kiaba: SHUT UP CHARLIE!!!!!!
He was pretty damn annoying
"He's a sarcastic man's man" and we love him for it
8:15 they probably breed puppies of various breeds at the north pole. I feel like the suspension of disbelief should stretch that far
The only thing I don't like about this movie, nowadays, is Charlie. He doesn't even seem to like his dad in the beginning, even begging his mom to pick him up as soon as possible, but when the whole Santa thing happened, suddenly he loves him and always wants to be with him. Not to mention Charlie is so selfish, never obeys his dad, and manipulating him ("How come everything I wanna do is stupid?") as well as conceited. I cannot stand this kid now.
THAT was the thing I hated most about this movie (and I love it). Charlie! And he opened his presence before his dad even got up.
Melanie Szelong dont you mean presents?
@Hot_Koko2's Community. O my god its literally a movie
+BenjiXAddictX4Ever-I think my biggest problem concerning Charlie is the fact that. . .(even if you just ignore the very obvious elephant in the room that. . .Charlie is perfectly fine after seeing Santa die in front of him . ..) Scott becoming Santa was never Scott's own choice. Scott never had any choice in the matter. It was Kevin who forced and manipulated him into making him put on the suit in the first place. . .It was Charlie who forced the matter on him to where Scott only put on the suit in order to make him happy. . .And even though Scott eventually accepted that he became the new Santa (not that he had a lot of the choice in the matter. .. ), it's the fact that Scott's own son forced him to put on the suit and Scott only did it to make his son happy. . .And Scott is now an immortal who is forced to forever live in the North Pole, spending the entire year preparing and shipping presents to BILLIONS of kids around the world. . .something he didn't give consent to in the first place. . .He had no say in such a life-altering and earthshattering "identity crisis" and it was brought entirely on by his son, who was being a selfish prick and guilt-tripped Scott into putting on a suit he didn't even want to wear. . .
And of course, the sequels gloss this over-while Scott would do everything in his power to make sure he stayed in Charlie's life-given that Scott is. . .only Santa and in charge of EVERY present over the ENTIRE world. . .he most likely wouldn't have been able to spend as much time with Charlie as he wanted. . .because Scott's got a million other things he's forced to do. .But I guess it's okay after all because he's basically god-like or whatever. . .As bad as The Santa Clause 2 is and I absolutely HATED even the idea that Scott was forced to get married to even stay as Santa Clause (so. .. they're forcing someone else to perform this enormous sacrifice or else, every kid in the world is going to have a lousy Christmas. . .no pressure or anything. . .), I do like the idea at least that Scott finally had a CHOICE in the matter. That he had a way out of being Santa if he didn't want to anymore but he still decided he wanted to keep being Santa. . .
And that was something that needed to be there in this first movie. Have it to where instead of dying, Santa does get critically injured and the clause is still instated when Scott puts on the suit. . .And Santa is actually happy because he doesn't want to be Santa anymore. . .Have it to where instead of forcing this on him, Bernard and the elves instead tell Scott he can think about it for a year and they'll find someone else who does want to be Santa Clause. Scott can have a "trial run" in the meantime but if he absolutely hates it, they will find someone else who wants to be Santa. He doesn't HAVE to. . .And Scott, through more of his own choice, discovers the pure joy of making kids happy like this, and he decides he does want to be Santa after all. You can even still have it where the adults think he's crazy. . .You don't have to change much-it just would leave Scott in more of a state to give actual consent in wanting to be Santa. . .
As a kid who went through divorce, that's just kinda how it goes. It's really hard to make up your mind about your parents. It's really hard having to deal with the fact you can't have both at once.
Also, he's a child! Yeah, he's selfish. Duh. Patience and selflessness are kinda life skills you have to learn as you age.
16:20 in the Santa Clause movies adults constantly talk about how not getting ONE gift they asked for ONCE made them stop believing... and they act like it was the worst moment of their life and it changed them forever. if THAT was the worst moment of your childhood, im jealous.. cause i dont remember ever being that upset over a gift while yaknow... everything else in my life was falling apart.. and even then i had an amazing childhood.. and no i didn't always get the gifts i wanted 😂
Mai C I had this exact thought when watching the movie again
Ikr
It isn't just in this series, or even just in the nineties. Rewatch any of the old Christmas movies, and you will see that this is a trick they put in all the movies, so that the MC can prove that they are the real Santa. Santa always regretted not being able to give that mean old grouch that shotgun when he was five, the crazy cat lady her EZ Bake oven when she was six, and he finally delivers them at the end of the movie, when all the Christmas Spirit has been restored in town.
ya i get ya, i also think its plot convince too, to show hes really a good guy when he feels bad/makes up for it, still ridiculous though 😂
Mai C you just have to understand Timmy, I just knew you'd shoot your eye out at the time, but by the next year you just didn't believe enough anymore.
12:41 That's why Neil doesn't believe in Santa: all he's been getting every Christmas is a really ugly sweater.
How do the parents who don't believe in Santa in Christmas movies justify presents they didn't buy showing up under the tree?
eugine krabs been saying this for years
eugine krabs very good question
They go, oh, I must have bought this when I was drunk and completely forgot about it
That question already went through my mind and why I passed this movie off and forgot about it. It didn't make any sense, unless the magic of Santa rewrites the memories of the families / adults, while they sleep... which raises even more questions than it answers.
Maybe it's case of each parent thinking the other bought them and being real bad at communicating?
Loving this channel so much, keep it up!
CultureCrash or should he
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Man kills Santa, becomes Sants....disturbing...
Obi1kenobi10
Keep what you kill. It’s an age-old tradition.
It’s litterally the plot of brother bear but with Santa instead of a bear
Literally leaves the body behind and forgets that it's lying in your front porch.
Biggest Plot Hole: Santa brings presents every year, but the parents never question how these mystery gifts got into their house.
So, every year, there are random gifts (with unknown contents) in their homes on Christmas morning. And the parents have to think, “That’s weird. Oh well. No questions here.”
Do you watch Danny Gonzales perchance?
How can one man in one lifetime acquire so many ugly sweaters?😂😂😂😁answer that neil😂
I think he was on the Bill Cosby sweater of the month club in the late 80s
But what happened to the other Santa? He legit killed Santa, and then not one elf seemed sad or even inconvenienced. 😑. What is the turnover rate for this profession!?
Alexxis Lynn go watch wotso videos video on this it kinda explained this
they don't even try to fix that in the sequel where travel back in time to that night, hell isn't he supposed to have a wife? where his wife when they get back? maybe the elves just kicked out into the barren lands to die. sure they can go back in time and prevent his death but maybe he was dick, who knows? life is just a joke.
Right that's the only thing that didn't make sense to me lol besides the time frame and how it became Christmas again so fast...so a whole year went by and no b day party for Charlie? But what really bothered me was the whole forgetting the other Santa existed especially in the second movie when they said he needed a wife...none of the elves talk about the past Santa ...I guess the other Santa didn't need a Mrs Claus? And in the second movie they said since he's been Santa the success rate went up 80% lol so wtf was the other Santa doing all this time for the rate to be that high. Maybe that's why everybody stopped believing Santa
well this thing had 2 sequels and in the second sequel they kinda explains that time just sorta resets for the previous Santa back to their previous life. like they live as if they had never been Santa, they don't get the time back, but their life advances to where they would be at the present. so like jack frost steals the Santa power, and then Tim Allen is back to being a business man, but everyone is the same age. sorry if I'm explaining this horribly, but its not a great sequel either.
Toosoo hmmm that’s interesting so basically the other Santa the first one just went back to his life before he became Santa?
Oh my god I'm dying! When the girl says, "I brought you some cocoa," the subtitles say, "I brought you some vodka." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I saw that!!
That threw me out 😂😂
I’d need some vodka if I were that kid too
LOL I SAW THAT
Bruh it actually did
My biggest problem with many Christmas movies including this one is that if the adults don’t believe in Santa then what do the adults think when Santa puts the presents under the tree, like do they just think they just appear
"Neil is outside honking his horn because his gloves don't fit or something" lmao
The reason this movie is great is that both adults and kids could watch it. Which is basically the goal of all kid animations (shrek i.e.), the adult humor to get the parents through it, and the rest for the kiddos. Such a solid flick
As a kid I thought this movie was kinda boring because half of it was adults dealing with life after their divorce. Now as an adult I appreciate that stuff but think the actual santa stuff is kinda weak compared to other Christmas movies.
*YOU FORGOT THE END PERIOD*
Exactly what I was thinking. Unlike Lamont Ya Boy most kids I knew liked the movie and the adult stuff allowed me to enjoy it. I wouldn't rate it a great movie but it is an enjoyable movie.
“I know who you are dad, *mickey mouse voice* YOU’RE THE ZODIAC KILLER” 💀
D S Johnson 11:53
Ive actually theorized the logistics of Santa. Technically he would actually have 2 days to do it. Given the international dateline, if he left on 24 west of the dateline, it would be the 23 east of the line. Leaving approximately 10pm, and following a north/south route, it would be far more organized. Not everyone celebrates Christmas, and the planet is mostly ocean. So accounting for all that, and allowing him to simply skip over those areas. Adding in multiple stops at the north pole to restock the sleigh for each leg of the trip, he could theoretically make it. Ending early morning the 25th on the east side of the line, 2 days after taking off. Santa could complete the trip.
Good job and I still believe in Santa LOL
didn't phineas and ferb do that because they wanted an extra day of summer?
I've always mathematically calculated the existence of Santa. That he would have to go around the world in an hour is just a lie.
I bet you were that kid in school who was good at those problems "The train left Chicago at 5:35AM ..."
@@robertawalsh2995... What's the Conductor's surname?
It doesn’t make sense but it’s one of the few Christmas movies I like lol
ArielSees Coral Yeah my mom and me used to watch it over and over when i was younger
Well, it is a Christmas movie... what one of them ever make actual sense lol... it is fantasy for little kids.
PLEASE TALK ABOUT HOW THE SANTA CLAUSE 2 MAKES LESS SENSE
There's a sequel!?!?
Nice pic
Personally I perfer that one. I think it's a nice little movie, the only thing I dont like about it is how charlie is suddenly just some angry teen and that fucking reindeer.
Chibuogu Okosi there’s 3
@@folklore_of_beth Since Santa Tim falling in love with a 20-something while his obviously-over-it co-starts are obviously over it and can't believe he's having a baby (yeah, he gets married and has a baby), and some girl thawing Jack Frost's heart with her arm hug (I'm not kidding...that's the resolution to the big story problem, aside from it existing) just wasn't enough, there's been talk about a Santa Clause 4....
Try spy kids,I re-watched that and my God.the early 2000s in one movie
Atlas Geneticist oh god that's gonna be bad 😂
Atlas Geneticist
Ohhhhhh god.
Spy kids a timeless masterpiece. Spy Kids 3d is still ahead of its time.
Oh that was a real AAA movie
Actually, you know what would be even better? Sharkboy and lavagirl
Nathan Lang OH MY GOD i just wanted to say thattttt it would be great ahahahha
When the little girl said “I brought you some coco” the captions say “I brought you some vodka”
Maybe she did
Lmao ikr I had to replay that part
XVI lol
When I was 7 I believed my grandfather was Santa, he would dress up for charity and give presents to underprivileged kids, so he deserved to be thought of that way. In a sense, he was
Don't let Neil hear that or he'll spend an hour telling you how Santa is impossible. lol
aw
That’s so fucking wholesome, I love it.
Your grandpa was Santa, the true Santa, every other one you see is a fake.
My grandpa looks like a beardless santa
something that’s always bothered me about this movie is: where did the original mrs. clause go? if scott/santa has to get married in the next movie, where is the wife of the first santa?
karmen brooks I suppose she just disappeared when Santa did... I never really thought about it
+karmen brooks
Most likely died due to plot convenience.
But the second movie takes place years after the first one. So a Santa doesn’t have to get married immediately
I'm assuming that the Mrs.Clause of that dead Santa didn't exist. I'm assuming, given that you can be Santa for years before taking a wife, that the other Santa hadn't needed a wife yet.
karmen brooks and we saw no wife in the third movie when jack frost became santa.
Third degree burns kill your nerve endings and you don't feel anywhere near as much pain as a second degree one
i agree with both of you.
1.3rd can miss nerves...maybe?so then you gotta dael with it.
2.if 3rd destorys the nerve,ten you dot deal with it.
3.either way you gotta deal with a second degree.
4. theres more nerves around the burn,no matter what!
I know it would've ruined the plot but I was always so mad watching this that Scott didn't just show his ex wife and Neil that when he shaves it magically grows back instantly.
CinemaSins even pointed that out. They're usually stretching things out for content, but that was actually an excellent point.
Whenever someone says Tim Allen can't act, I like to point them to Galaxy Quest. That movie is like the reigning champ of being way better than it sounds on paper.
YES. I love Tim Allen in galaxy quest. "Never give up, never surrender!"
The experts say Galazy Quest was the best Sci-Fi since Star Wars: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_joint_winners_of_the_Hugo_and_Nebula_awards#Dramatic_Presentation,_Long_Form
😂😂😂
No, but seriously, Galaxy Quest works so well because you can watch it with absolutely no knowledge of Star Trek and still get the story. I like, say, Spaceballs a lot, but if you don't know anything about Star Wars then a lot of stuff doesn't make sense. Galaxy Quest is a movie that works on multiple levels.
didnt shatner call it the best star trek movie ever made
In all of the movies where Santa Claus exists, why don't the parents believe until they see him? Do they never realize the new presents that weren't there when they went to sleep?
because who else gonna ruin the child's beliefs?
Because potatoes
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Okay but like is anyone honestly surprised that everyone thought Scott was crazy? Like if a middle aged divorced man decided to dress up as santa claus and make his kid think he is santa claus before kidnapping him and taking him to the"north pole." Like from an outsiders perspective Scott is psycho.
+Joey Does Art
Pretty much.
I'm not surprised.
My Missus really LIKES it when I dress up like Santa and give her a "present" on Christmas Eve. I'll stop there, before I get to the part about the "North Pole."
To this day, you squeaking, "You're the Zodiac Killer" just gets me
Does it still make you laugh?
What if they have an animal breeding section in the workshop lmao
"Hurry up, you two!! We got to get your children out to the children tonight!!"
"Your flying" "im used to it I lived through the 60s"
Me:AYYYYYYYYYY LET'S JUST PUT THAT JOKE OVER THERE
Not gonna lie, I had a huge crush on Bernard as a child. Lmao.
Leighann Writes Same! He was an attractive college boy on _Freaks & Geeks_ too. 😂
Leighann Writes same 😂
& in Liberty Heights 😍😍
Same, he's a cutie
I still do.
I was a little Jewish kid who believed in Santa, so the casting decision of Bernard works perfectly for me
U r gorgeous
I always thought Bernard was great.
Bernard is the GOAT of Christmas elves.
As a kid i didn't realised Bernard had a jewish background. I loved his acting, so for me was perfectly casted
i figured out santa wasn’t real when my dad accidentally used the wrong wrapping paper. i was like “wow look! santa has the same wrapping paper as us! wait...”
sangtan I figured it out when I found a present for one of my sisters in a box in the garage. I didn't think anything of it until she got it on Christmas Day
SAME LMAO
I figured it out when I found a pic i drew for Santa in my moms room later that summer and left her with the dilemma of, "IS SANTA NOT REAL OR ARE YOU A THIEF?!?!"
Michael Scott I figured it out because when i was in 4-5th grade i really liked riddles, so one day my mom downloaded me 4 cheesy riddle apps. They were all bad, but one of them had the riddle: An old woman, santa, and the perfect man are in front of a 10 dollar bill. Who gets it? Answer: The old woman since santa and the perfect man don't exist. Basically at that moment i had an existential crisis. not why i was lied to about santa, but why they made that app which was obviously made for kids in the first place.
Jacker Jacks
4-5th grade? How did you manage to believe in Santa for such a long time?
Did your classmates destroy that earlier?
Every Santa movie has this one problem: do the parents not buy gifts? And where do they think the gifts magically appear from???
Santa magic makes the non-believing parents think they were the ones that bought those presents.
Boom!
ggeasy
They pay Santa with a credit card because the 90s.
BelleFlower15
Lots of divorces with each parent thinking the other bought the gifts.
Eidlones
But why would Santa do that? The central (or a least one of) conflict of like 90% of these Santa is how Christmas is in danger because less and less people are believing in Santa Claus and Santa’s magic is fueled by people believing
when I was younger, I thought when my parents were kids, everybody had black and white vision
Kenzie Johnson This sounds like something Calvin's dad would tell him in _Calvin & Hobbes_ 😂
Omg I thought I was the only one who thought this too 😅
Everything in the world was black and white in ye olden days, I thought the grups dreamt in it
Dude same here!
So just because Santa decided not to give them one of the things they asked for, they stopped believing? Doesn't seem like their belief was too strong to begin with. And a 3 year old is barely old enough to understand the whole concept anyway.
I dislike that trope, just because as a kid you never got the hottest toy you start to hate Christmas, like gee I than me and most my friends need to be the biggest Christmas hater in the world because we never got the hottest toys of the year.
"I bought some coco"
Subtitlessss:
"I bought some vodka"
. . .
Lmao that's hilarious
"We all believe stupid things when we where kids like my moms a superhero or my dad is going to come back from buying cigarettes" Holy shit i was not ready for that one
For kids in the '90s, "The Santa Clause" was our "Miracle on 34th Street"...and I don't mean the 1994 remake. Its a story about what it means to believe in what you can't see, and the virtue of doing so. By the film's end, Scott's family is finally whole, as being Santa has made him far less selfish...and his new behavior has also impacted those around him for the better. He has a new purpose for his life in helping others before himself, and his son begins learning the same lessons. Unfortunately, while this film is very good, the sequels weren't...especially the third which was basically "The Martin Short Show".
The third takes the formula from It's a Wonderful Life. We see what the world would be like if Scott Calvin never became Santa Claus. Just like when George Bailey what the world would be like if he'd never been born.
The second sequel was not so bad. I liked that Charlie grew up and he was upset about the secret of his father, but then he understood the situation and helped to save the Christmas saying that sometimes you don't have to see something to believe in It and It's a very powerful message of hope.
Alex: (loosely paraphrased) “He’s a sarcastic Man’s man in every film he acts in.”
Me: “Nu-uh! What about Toy Story? He’s a sarcastic toy’s toy!”
"Dammit we forgot to get our kid a weeny whistle eh he'll be fine"
30 years later
The son rocking in the corner crying
Him: “WHAT IF I CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUSE?”
Elf: Well your not believing in yourself
Tim Allen is a great.
He will be going down as 1 of the greatest entertainers of all time.
He's Buzz Lightyear for God sake.
ANDRUU SCOTT
Not in the animated show.
@@matthew8153 lol. True. But you have to admit it was the tone and sound of his voice that gave Buzz that iconic voice whenever you imagine BUZZ LIGHTYEAR
ANDRUU SCOTT I agree that he does seem to play the same character a lot but I love him anyway. He seems like a great guy. And he IS a good actor.
Yeah besides being a republican he's basically all us 90s kids have left! 😭
@@heyitsnoreen Hey, what's wrong with that? So am I. 😂
I always hated the trope of man not know how cook. its literally a list of ingredients and a time limit, its not rocket surgery.
I share your annoyance at that ragged trope, but actually not knowing how to cook is kind of a thing, and always was, the trope of the newlywed bride and her inedible cooking is far hoarier than 'inept dad'. Cookery is a skill set vastly more than intricate than reading a list and setting a timer. I have been learning for over half a century and I am still learning. Last night I learned the technique for Cantonese scrambled eggs and can't believe I haven't made them like that all my life! You're right, it's not 'rocket surgery'. It's not a shell game by the Nazis who *didn't* have to retire to South America, it's chemistry, physics, craft, and art, it's practical science anyone can learn, and few bother (not as few as those who bother to grow, rear, hunt, fish, or forage food themselves- how useless most of society became!)
PS I enjoyed the mixed metaphor, use it myself (although this time it slipped by me at first, lol), but Operation Paperclip is still apropos when it comes to the pharmakeia cartels currently running the place as well as the ones they sent to JPL, I highly suggest those interested in a more complete picture of history have a read. It's mind boggling. You'll never look at the Third Reich- or Bayer etc- the same way again. www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Drugs-Third-Norman-Ohler/dp/1328663795
The part of the plot that scared me is that he killed an immortal being and he BECAME AN IMMORTAL BEING
A hip and rad Face If you kill god... You become god...
Immersive Comics the more you know
A hip and rad Face
Not immortal just non aging
Brutus Mars still kinda scary
A hip and rad Face
Fuck I mean that’s even scarier to me
I can’t die from disease or age, but I can die if someone yells at me without me expecting it
the spongebob movie will never age badly.
Well if it ages badly so will this comment
That depends on which one you're talking about... if you're talking about the first, then yeah, I agree. Also, Ocean Man is a great song...
Bc it’s animated and takes place under water. Not the real world besides the beach scenes.
In general sure, but I'd say the whole David Hasselhoff thing already is dated. That was a joke for the parents, but we didn't grow up with baywatch and knight rider, and our kids even more likely won't know who he is
@@arthurdurham dont really think that element matters much, I didnt understand it and didnt need to. I will remain uneducated when showing it to my kids.
"It's okay, I lived through the 60's! "
For those of you who don't understand this joke, in the 60's in the US drug use started to become more mainstream, and there was a drug that made you feel like you were flying.
Edit: I have no memory of commenting this but thanks for the likes lol
Drug use started well before the '60s. That being said, it certainly became more mainstream in America during the hippie movement (pot, LSD, shrooms) and remained that way through the '70s disco scene (pot, cocaine, poppers, Quaaludes) and '80s white-collar scene (pot, cocaine)...
Lazy American2 and which drug would that be? seems a little vague to say “there was a drug”
Yeah it's called marijuana
Aubri that’s what she said
Arwen ....idk if you know how that joke works
Never understood how some parents feel the need to “sit the kids down and tell them Santa isn’t real”. The kids will figure it out on their own. Why squash a child’s fantasy on purpose?
Karenism
How about actually telling them the real truth that there is no Santa Claus. Because once they learn there is no such thing, they’re gonna be angry about being lied to
Eh I was 13 and my mom told me. But I did have doubts. The real reason I kept believing was because I read the web version of the wimpy kid book and decided to keep believing and wondered what if I did stop believing it turns out Santa is real and I just ruined free gifts for life.
Isn’t 13 a little old to let your kid believe in Santa?
I don’t think parents should lie to their kids and tell them that Santa is real in the first place, you can enjoy the myth and Christmas without believing outright lies, but letting them believe something you know isn’t true especially until they are a teen is ludicrous. By the time you are 6 that none sense should be squashed.
cause imagine your 12+ year old still thinking an old man comes down the chimney and gives them gifts
The bag is like an open portal; Charlie used it to pluck the puppy from a shop or shelter somewhere
The work that goes into your videos really shows - QUALITY content dude.
When the kid(elf) brought him the drink, the subtitles heard it as “vodka” 😂😂
Watching this makes me remember how bad Laura and Neil were for most of this. Your child has an imagination and wants fun with his father? Oh my God what a travisty!
Well I think what it was was they thought it was bad when Charlie started believing that his dad WAS actually Santa Claus.
I could kind of see their point, even though he was actually turning into Santa. They of course didn’t think it was true (which was understandable) I mean, why would they? they were adults
… but becoming Santa Claus was actually the best thing to happen to Scott, because he actually got a close relationship with his son because at the beginning of the movie, Charlie hated going over to his dads house. But when he became Santa, it was like a switch flipped and he didn’t wanna be apart from his dad for one second
tim allen gettin thicc
CTOAFN Thicc means big ass
Nice glutes.. looking thicc
@@mr.neodymuim oh no the rule 34 is coming
meme doggo lol Ha, hey you want me to sub
@@mr.neodymuim If you want
Watched it when I was a kid. Loved it. Watched it just last year (I'm 32 now). Still loved it.
PinkRocketNinja nothing wrong with that I love it I am 36
My childhood is not about to get ruined today.
Aliya Elmore same
Some peope can't even celebrate Christmas, what's this B.S. about "I GoT evErY PrESenT bUt mYStEry DAtE" . Like really.... -_-
Right. I was like privileged people's problem. 😒
The lady is so mean. I mean, all because Scott gained weight and gained facial hair, that’s not confusing Charlie.