3 Link Suspension Build - Reckless Wrench Garage
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- On this episode of the Reckless Wrench Garage the 3 link front suspension is finally installed and the new 609 axle is swapped in! The old radius arms and dana 44 get removed and we build a complete 3 link front suspension for offroad abuse.
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What do you guys want to see on the shakedown run?
Will it pass the jump test!? :-D
Anti squat; how much it raises or lowers under firm acceleration & braking.
Full articulation, bump steer, any adjustments, compression travel, droop travel, ...
Full flex out
A lot of guys have to add a stabilizer bar after going to a 3-4 set up, to stabilize their ride. Radius arms are really built in stabilizers. Curious if you'll need one now.
Have you guys ever built an articulation ramp to check how far your rig will stretch
The inventor of the MIG and TIG welder has made life so much more fun for the average guy.
Much respect for what you've done in this video!
Sweet set up! Appreciate anyone building a DripRail!!!
This is awesome to see. I've been trying to find out how well a 3 link would work with the upper not only on the opposite side of the axle from the diff and on the axle end of the drag link. This is definitely going to help me package my 3 link in my 3B when I finally get back from deployment.
Nice job dude! Can’t wait to see you put it to work. 3 link up front on my rig was night and day 🍺
Your all skills are awesome! 👍
That is one beautiful axle. Looking forward to the "radius arm vs 3 link" video.
Looks sick cant wait awesome videos guys
I'm looking forward to seeing your comparison of the two set ups. I'm currently running the same radius arms and am interested in the difference.
Looks great man
Awesome camera angles!!
Great video! I’m working on a 3 like for the ranger I’m building right now.
Great video!!
Been waiting for this!
Nice work brother!
Love the work done to your Ranger front suspension. Looking forward to your thoughts of your 3 link. I have been trying to gather information on a three link setup. Keep up the great work ! (Cincy Ohio)
Those captured nut plates are such a great idea. I need them on everything
Those weld on bolt locks are bad AF!!! Awesome video man
Sick axle man. And you are going to love the 3link vs the radius arm once you do take it Offroad
Hopefully we get some testing soon!
Nice for Kris to help. I hope he at least was handing you beers and not just poking fun at you!! 🍺🍺🍺
I think a 3 link drives so much better than a radius arm. I also had the same issue with the upper link on my XJ. It would have hit the drive shaft.
I was thinking about 3 linking the front on my custom Jeep, but with the current price of those parts I’ll pass. It goes everywhere I want as it is with waggy leafs in the front. The rear is double triangulated 4 link and has been great
All I could think of watching the axle/suspension shots as you were driving was run coyote road runner is coming for you!
Please do tell us what you think about radius arm vs 3 link please hit on differences in drivers feel. looks like you guys are in socal area? Thanks for the content.
so with all the parts ordered that you show ,not counting the shocks or any of axles,how much were parts at barnes roughly? thank you.got a 98 tj just put 44 axles and lockers and this might come later.very good job and i believe i can handle that.great job reckless
great job!
how much will cost ? i want to install to my cherokee ??
thinking of doing something like this to my toyota pickup, the leafs up front are just killing me with the really stiff and rough ride and i'd like some more flex
Are you still able to get this thing onto a 2 post lift? It sucks when the front links are directly under frame for lifting purposes.
Bad Ass set up!
Is a 3 link decent for road use as well?
Is great your work. Which diameter are the pipe?
So what was the lift size and coil over size with the Dana 44? I’m curious because I plan on lifting my old f150 soon and making a fully custom lift
I wish I went this route on my 88' 4runner. As it sits waiting for finishing. My buddy went extremely overboard on the suspension with leafs from TG and huge Bilstein shocks. I want to remove it and install 3 Link. Any interest. I have a clean dry shop with heat, bathroom.
What type of king shock coil over is those??
I am going to do a straight axle swap on a 94 f150. Any tips? I was thinking 4 link. My truck will still be stock height
Was that driving footage using the insta 360? Really cool shots! Great lookin rig
Yeah parts were the insta 360 and some with GoPro hero 7
No plan survives first contact. lol
very cool! looks like you'll have un-GODLY amounts of flex! NICE! what king shocks are those?? 16"+?
The fronts are 2.0” x 14”, rears are 2.5” x 16”
@@RecklessWrenchGarage thanks for letting me (us) know! i've got 14" 2.5 kings going into my JKU soon, and i don't think it'll have NEARLY the amount of flex you showed... that's just crazy! i enjoyed watching!
if your weldings not great , weld those important joints up hill not down , you will get a far stronger result .
That’s a nice setup! What bump stops are those? What limit straps did you end up getting?
They are fox 2.0 2 inch bumps and I used limit straps from Kartek off-road
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of adding a multi link system to your solid axles?
Hey are you guys in the Albuquerque area?! Let's get together sometime! I bet you guys would like me and my buddies stuff, lots of builds going on
Has there been any downside to trimming/eliminating the engine crossmember? Did you add another crossmember in its place somewhere? I'm dealing with that same monstrosity, was considering going parallel four link up front because the space between the frame is so messed up by that crossmember hanging down. I am running a 7.3 Powerstroke in an F250 though.
Yeah I made a new engine crossmember out of 3/16 plate. It's much smaller and tighter to the oil pan than the stock one. No issues yet. You can see it at 14:40
What pitman arm are you using? Dropped or and if so how much or just a part number. Thanks
It's the stock 4x4 pitman arm
Hey guys just came across your guys video of this ranger, do you have a link to those rims you have on the ranger?
Discount tire sells them. They are not a true beadlock because I drive this on the road, but the rock ring on them is legit and actually made for bashing on the rocks.
www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/level-8-bully-pro-5
What kind of welder do you have? I know it’s miller but to what amperage?
It's a Miller 211 running on the 220v plug.
How long are your lower and upper links? Did you cover in any of your videos the transmission mount you came up with etc? I'm working on my 1 ton explorer build and started learning quickly about how the track bar needs to be as high as possible off the axle to prevent the axle from swinging.. and I needed to make the upper link longer for sure to point the pinion up while at full droop...
My lower links are around 40 inches and the upper link is slightly shorter and is around 37 inches. I was more concerned with better steering geometry through travel than pinion angle, so that is why my upper is shorter.
I never put anything about my trans mount on video because I don't have one. The aluminum mount cast into my transmission case was broken off the case when I got it from the junkyard. My transmission and transfer case are supported by a mount off the back of the atlas, and it is solid mounted since my engine is solid mounted.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage thanks for the reply man.
I have a 94 4 door explorer with 4 link rear 3 link front on 05 SD 1 tons, v8, 4r70w trans and atlas.. so you don't have a trans mount and that would make sense and allow a ton of room... I also have the atlas support mount from TMR... mine being 99% rock crawler/trail and 14" king coil overs on the front I want to be able to use all my travel.. so I gotta go longer on the upper link.
just saw/watched your last video about what's going on with you guys etc. Good luck with everything
@@RecklessWrenchGarage those measurements are from center of axle tube to the center of the heims on the frame mount locations?
No those measurements were just eye to eye on the heims. I don't have the truck readily available right now to get exact measurements.
Not having a trans mount is a lot less headache and saves room. Usually the trans mount kind of gets in the way of either the front driveshaft or hangs really low. I also have the TMR atlas mount. The three mounting points of my drivetrain has worked good for a long time.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage thanks for the info, appreciated.
How hard would a 3 link be on a 96 f350 with a Dana 60??? Anybody ever seen it done?
what spring rate setup do you have on front and rear axis?
The front is 200/200, the rear is 100/150
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Are you guys on any social media? I’m in NM as well and would love to get out and hit the Puerco with you guys sometime.
We have Instagram and Facebook under the same name, reckless wrench garage. There are links in the video description as well 👍🏻we might organize a wheeling session in the future when being in public is ok again
RecklessWrenchGarage That’d be awesome. I’ll give you a follow on both platforms. I’m PheasantDuty on IG. Would def love to see that ranger and all your other cool stuff in person.
Great video hey you going to sell your old radius arms and axle?
Thank you. Currently, we plan to hold onto them for a possible future project.
What setup exactly was that old radius arm? By the way my sons and i dig the channel. Awesome work brother!
The radius arms were from James Duff. Thanks! We’re glad you enjoy it.
Thank you
Hey where are you located? That looks like Lancaster ca
This was back when we were in New Mexico.
How do you measure the lift that you are going to run? Thanks
I don't really measure it by "4 inch lift" "6 inch lift" like a kit that you usually would buy. I set the ride height and tire size that I want and go from there
@@RecklessWrenchGarageok thanks
What would you consider for a welder for semi beginner that is affordable? Something that could do 1/4"..thanks
That really depends on what you consider to be affordable. I have heard a lot of good things about Harbor Freight's multi process machine, but we have not used one ourselves. We got a Miller 211 and esab 215 recently and have been enjoying the new machines.
I would reccend the titanium 110 220 welder from harbor freight. I have a Lincoln 110 now and that will be my next welder. Go check out the reviews. :)
@@RecklessWrenchGarage yeah maybe something for a couple hundred bucks, a $1000+ welder is near impossible for the average Joe to buy on a normal years salary (under $50k) a year or if it's just their rig they're doing.. as far as shake down, hmmmm, I'd say maybe how about flexing out that axle
@@treasureseekerintheway3515 I will check that out thank you
I have the Chicago Electric 170 (i think) its a 220 welder. I paid $170 for it and I gotta say so far it works great. From Harbor Freight.
I am an fan who would like to learn how to do everything you did in this video but I really don't know how to get all the measurements, if you would like to help me step by step I would greatly appreciate it. maybe you could explain the numbers of the axle that you put to understand it in real life and with numbers
I have been wanting to do a video of the 4 link calculator, especially the measurement part
When you weld the axle brackets on, do you weld the insides also, if you can get to them. I’m also doing a 3 link on my Toyota and I feel like I’m doing more work than I need. Lol. My shock hoop pedestals are similar to yours and I ended up welding inside and out
If it’s a single bracket, weld both sides of it if it will carry a load.
If it’s a boxed bracket, you’ll be fine to weld only along the outside. In many cases, you wouldn’t be able to reach inside to weld it.
And no weld is better than a crappy weld that introduces a bunch of stress risers that propagate into the good welds.
Did you sell your old dana 44?
Yes
So you lied... I count the kinks again and again and keep on getting 4 each time.
If you think the Panhard doesn't count - take it off and try some tuns and curves!
What is shown here is a Panhard four link.
A 'tree link' is a radius arm suspension, where there are two longitudinal links and one transversal link (which is the Panhard bar).
Wow! you can count?! all the way up to 4! so smart...
¿What thickness is the pipe, please'
.25 wall thickness
@@RecklessWrenchGarage Thanks a lot
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I remember when y'all didn't have sponsors.
Even if those companies didn't sponsor us we would still be using their parts. We only accept sponsors from companies and products that we truly believe in. The sponsors help us with parts so we can invest money into camera gear, projects and trips 👍🏻
Australia: "i have this cool idea." *spent thounsands on engineering, testing and fab to be road legal*
America: "I GoTs tO bE in MoAB tOmoRRa. GonnA WelD ThiS IN mA DrivE WaY AnD leTTS Get oUt thErE"
FML
USA! USA! USA! Land of the free to do whatever I want in my driveway 🇺🇲🦅🍻
Why are you trying to mock them for having more freedom
I swear that Suburban used to be on CK5
I started a build thread on there a while back. Haven’t been on forums in a while.
Did you build it or buy it?
I vaguely remember it being built in a storage shed I think lol. Thing was legit
Might be a different one then. We built this in my driveway.
Nice suspension work, overkill, now its ready for an engine swap,, how about a (CUMMINS 4BT) Turbo diesel. 🤔
first yay
out of the driveway and the hood cheers now is time you present all those in view and in ear shot a gift for putting up with you you are the reason they make zoning laws have some compassion
If you are my neighbor please stop by and we can discuss this. Otherwise don't assume anything about zoning laws, HOA or my neighbors feelings to me working on my property.
This is why I live out in the country. Because little ninnies won’t come over and actually talk to you about the issues they have with you in person. They go tattle tell on you Really though I’m sure you were not making racket after or before hours. This kind of crap can really put the clamlets to shame:). Build looks great. I’m curious to see how 3 link handles at highway speeds and turns.
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congrats your the neighbor everyone wants to move away
You would be surprised. We seem to be the neighbors that everyone wants car advice, maintenance and household repairs. If your neighbors know you have a welder you seem to make friends.
I'm the neighbor no one wants I do this stuff in a apartment building lol In Irvine CA.
I own a Jeep Wrangler. Why am I here?
That is a good question. 🤔 It’s ok, we won’t disown you, just harass you a little.
so the track bar is included in "suspension arms " this is a 4 link not a 3 link ,
This is brought up every time this subject comes up. Yes, technically the track bar makes it a 4 link, and a parallel 4 link is really a 5 link; however, when discussing the basic setup, it is not counted as one of the links.
why is it not counted if it is used to locate the diff , sounds like a lame excuse to me , its included in a 5 link system but not in your 3 link , sorta dusnt add up there guys