Another fine video with useful tips. Putting the one turn wind on the mainspring, prior to installing the balance assembly, is an especially useful tip. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. The one turn thing is a personal preference but I find it typically produces an amplitude of about 180 degrees on a good free moving movement with a good usable mainspring, also handy for establishing lift angle of an unknown movement
All Orient movements are very Seiko-ish. Even prior to orient being under the Seiko umbrella. I think they're highly under appreciated watches. Every bit as good as Seiko and far cheaper.
@@spidiq8 yeah definitely very useful, I noticed you're using a 3d printed holder, ill have to have a look for a file design. Ps l see you have some bike videos, ill have a look. Thanks Jay
@@overlandmotorcycletours4785 Yes I design and print a lot of my holders. Pla is great as it's direct enough but won't Mark or damage any movements. I do have a few bike videos. Some reviews and some mechanical etc. If you go to my playlists you'll see most things are group categorised as I do have a variety of content so you'll find all my bike related videos under one heading, all watch related under another, coffee related another etc etc
I discovered your video as I am looking into servicing an Orient 46941 movement. If I may I have a question regarding the automatic winding works, more over the Bearings in the automatic works. How do you clean and lubricante those bearings. What solvent and/or solvent lubricant did you use. Thanks for your time and info.
The automatic winding system on these is the same as Seiko with the 'magic' lever push pull system. Clean the pawl lever and 1st reduction wheel as you normally would in whatever solvent you use and after reassembly add 2 small drops of 9010 to the teeth of the 1st reduction wheel then operate the oscillating weight round a few times. The pivots are lubricated with D5.
Thanks so much for the info. It will make it incredibly easier when I dive in to restore mine. If I may I have just one more question. I am thinking of replacing the main spring to give it the watch more life. Where can I order a new one for this caliber. I just can’t seem to find any place to buy them from .
The stem should remove easily if that's what you're referring to? Pressing the release and drawing it out should suffice unless it's internally corroded in which case you'll need to disassemble the movement in the case until you can access it to free it.
Hi, I have a question with regards to the dial ring . The metal ring that sits between the dial so the calendar ring can rotate. Is this metal or plastic ? Which should be used ?
Hi Spidiq8, Great video, very helpful. Since you look well versed with Orients, i am pretty sure that you are the right person to ask this question. I have an Orient Day Date President Watch. Model EV03001D. It has a automatic movement 46E. I intend to replace the factory day date wheel from English to Arabic. Where should i start. Or can u suggest someone who can do these mods? TIA.
Changing the day wheel is easy provided you have a little experience removing and refitting dials and hands. The tricky bit is getting a replacement day wheel, often it's easier to buy a complete watch or movement for spares. Getting Orient spares is not easy unfortunately but a Seiko day wheel may fit. Which country are you in?
@@ahmedyousufabdullah Unfortunately I don't know anyone to recommended there. But any competent recommended watchmaker would certainly be able to do this. The tricky bit as said would be getting the parts needed.
@@ahmedyousufabdullah Sadly not! Getting Orient parts is a nightmare, I have been searching for a replacement crown for a Kano five watch of mine for months and unlike other watches including Seiko who Orient are a part of you just don't see spares listed anywhere. First thing to do is to to find out if they made an Arabic dial for the day/date style and if so it might be a case of trawling eBay and local selling sites to find a complete movement or watch cheaply to swap the parts from.
Sir, if the hair spring is tied due to magnetism (i think), if i remove the balance and stretch the spring it out by lifting the balance would that fix the problem?
No, this will risk damaging the fragile hairspring. You need to demagnetise it with a commercially and cheaply available demagnetiser. Magnetism makes the hairspring coils stick together, If they're tangled across one another this typically happens due to the balance being dropped.
Hey, i'm starting to service my watch (first time ever servicing a watch. I have a very simillar watch with same movement) wanted to ask you for tips about lubing because i dont want to spend much money and thats why im only buying manual oilers also i wanted to ask about what oil/grease you are using and for what part of the watch. Nice video i understood everithing appart of the oiling process
If you're just starting out and want to keep costs to a minimum you can get by with Moebius 8000 and a tube of Molykote DX grease. All pivots are oiled and all sliding metal to metal surfaces greased. A barrel arbor in a metal bushng can be greased as an alternative to oiling. To expand a little the minimum i'd recommend are as follows. Moebius 8300 grease, Keyless works, barrel arbor, cannon pinion, calendar jumpers. Moebius 8217 braking grease, barrel wall for slipping mainsprings. Moebius D5 / HP1300 Barrel arbor, cannon pinion, 2nd wheel, (occasionally 3rd wheel on large movements), some keyless components, oscillating weight bearings. Moebius 9010, 3rd, 4th, escape wheel pivots, pallet stone faces (there's a special lubricant for this but it's expensive) The above is simply a general guide, for your Orient movement i'd recommend the following. 8217 barrel wall 8300 for all the metal to metal including the barrel arbor if it's in metal bushings. D5/HP1300 barrel arbor if jewelled and 2nd wheel pivots, cannon pinion, oscillating weight bearings. 9010 3rd, 4th, escape, 1st reduction wheel teeth that the magic lever for the auto winding bear on. Silicone grease for crown and case back gasket.
thank you. because of this teardown I was able to repair the rapid day advance pusher mechanism.
Another fine video with useful tips. Putting the one turn wind on the mainspring, prior to installing the balance assembly, is an especially useful tip. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. The one turn thing is a personal preference but I find it typically produces an amplitude of about 180 degrees on a good free moving movement with a good usable mainspring, also handy for establishing lift angle of an unknown movement
I've discovered your channel today with this video. You are the kind of creator I respect the most, so subscribed and belled.
Thank you. I appreciate that and hope you enjoy the content.
I am waiting in 2024 when this watch was introduced
Perefect explanation of the movement my friend! Thanks a lot for sharing.
Great video. The Orient 46941 is a very nice movement that is easy to service :-)
Thanks. They're a lovely movement aren't they. Big fan of Orient and I think they're very underrated.
Excelente video, parabéns meu amigo pelo profissionalizmo e competência que desmonstrou.!!
Thanks for your share. Orient 46941/46943 was originally from Seiko 7005, Orient just added a push button for day setting
Agree totally regarding this kind of spring shock it's a nightmare to refit and almost impossible
Good stuff, looks more like a 7006 than a 6309 though. Very helpful, as I'm about to have a crack at one myself. Excellent commentary.
All Orient movements are very Seiko-ish. Even prior to orient being under the Seiko umbrella. I think they're highly under appreciated watches. Every bit as good as Seiko and far cheaper.
Brillant video, I have just bought a similar model with the same calibre, im sure ill be watching a few times more before strip down.
Hope it's helpful for you.
@@spidiq8 yeah definitely very useful, I noticed you're using a 3d printed holder, ill have to have a look for a file design. Ps l see you have some bike videos, ill have a look. Thanks Jay
@@overlandmotorcycletours4785 Yes I design and print a lot of my holders. Pla is great as it's direct enough but won't Mark or damage any movements.
I do have a few bike videos. Some reviews and some mechanical etc. If you go to my playlists you'll see most things are group categorised as I do have a variety of content so you'll find all my bike related videos under one heading, all watch related under another, coffee related another etc etc
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Muy, buen video. 👍👍👋👋💯💯💯💯
great video. I want to ask what year the orient series 469640-7H was made? very few references, thank you
Thanks,
I'm not sure of the year of manufacture other than certainly mid to late seventies but it continued into the eighties.
I discovered your video as I am looking into servicing an Orient 46941 movement. If I may I have a question regarding the automatic winding works, more over the Bearings in the automatic works. How do you clean and lubricante those bearings. What solvent and/or solvent lubricant did you use. Thanks for your time and info.
The automatic winding system on these is the same as Seiko with the 'magic' lever push pull system.
Clean the pawl lever and 1st reduction wheel as you normally would in whatever solvent you use and after reassembly add 2 small drops of 9010 to the teeth of the 1st reduction wheel then operate the oscillating weight round a few times.
The pivots are lubricated with D5.
Thanks so much for the info. It will make it incredibly easier when I dive in to restore mine. If I may I have just one more question. I am thinking of replacing the main spring to give it the watch more life. Where can I order a new one for this caliber. I just can’t seem to find any place to buy them from .
any info about case model ?
i lost 1 look like this
Hello, just bought a 46941 and im struggling removing the winder, any tips?
The stem should remove easily if that's what you're referring to?
Pressing the release and drawing it out should suffice unless it's internally corroded in which case you'll need to disassemble the movement in the case until you can access it to free it.
Hi, I have a question with regards to the dial ring . The metal ring that sits between the dial so the calendar ring can rotate. Is this metal or plastic ? Which should be used ?
It depends on the movement and watch. Both metal and plastic are used for dial rings and for movement rings.
Oh, I see. Thank you for the reply. Really appreciate it. And great video 👍🏼.
What do you oil or grease on the escapement, if anything?
A very tiny drop of moebius 9415 on the face of the pallet stones. I do this under a microscope as it's incredibly difficult to do accurately without.
Hi Spidiq8,
Great video, very helpful.
Since you look well versed with Orients, i am pretty sure that you are the right person to ask this question.
I have an Orient Day Date President Watch. Model EV03001D. It has a automatic movement 46E. I intend to replace the factory day date wheel from English to Arabic. Where should i start. Or can u suggest someone who can do these mods?
TIA.
Changing the day wheel is easy provided you have a little experience removing and refitting dials and hands.
The tricky bit is getting a replacement day wheel, often it's easier to buy a complete watch or movement for spares.
Getting Orient spares is not easy unfortunately but a Seiko day wheel may fit.
Which country are you in?
@@spidiq8 Based out of Bahrain
@@ahmedyousufabdullah Unfortunately I don't know anyone to recommended there. But any competent recommended watchmaker would certainly be able to do this. The tricky bit as said would be getting the parts needed.
@@spidiq8 thanks. Now the questions is how to find a day date wheel in Arabic that exactly fits and works with orient. Any hints?
@@ahmedyousufabdullah Sadly not! Getting Orient parts is a nightmare, I have been searching for a replacement crown for a Kano five watch of mine for months and unlike other watches including Seiko who Orient are a part of you just don't see spares listed anywhere.
First thing to do is to to find out if they made an Arabic dial for the day/date style and if so it might be a case of trawling eBay and local selling sites to find a complete movement or watch cheaply to swap the parts from.
Sir, if the hair spring is tied due to magnetism (i think), if i remove the balance and stretch the spring it out by lifting the balance would that fix the problem?
No, this will risk damaging the fragile hairspring.
You need to demagnetise it with a commercially and cheaply available demagnetiser.
Magnetism makes the hairspring coils stick together, If they're tangled across one another this typically happens due to the balance being dropped.
@@spidiq8 thank you for your reply sir. I will follow your instructions.
Is this a good watch at all?
I'm thinking about buying one. (469wa3)
The movement is an excellent well tried and tested one, similar to many Seiko.
Good reliable, accurate and dependable.
Thx friend! 😀
What about a orient f6t22? Not alot of info out there about it
If you have one needing servicing I'd be happy to discuss it with you.
what made that watch ,,,,exactly because my exxactly watch like that stolen
What make?
It's an Orient, I couldn't tell you a model number but there were many of this type made much like the Seiko 5
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There could be numerous reasons for a watch stopping, a service would be the starting point.
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I'm not sure what you're asking?
Hey, i'm starting to service my watch (first time ever servicing a watch. I have a very simillar watch with same movement) wanted to ask you for tips about lubing because i dont want to spend much money and thats why im only buying manual oilers also i wanted to ask about what oil/grease you are using and for what part of the watch. Nice video i understood everithing appart of the oiling process
If you're just starting out and want to keep costs to a minimum you can get by with Moebius 8000 and a tube of Molykote DX grease.
All pivots are oiled and all sliding metal to metal surfaces greased.
A barrel arbor in a metal bushng can be greased as an alternative to oiling.
To expand a little the minimum i'd recommend are as follows.
Moebius 8300 grease, Keyless works, barrel arbor, cannon pinion, calendar jumpers.
Moebius 8217 braking grease, barrel wall for slipping mainsprings.
Moebius D5 / HP1300 Barrel arbor, cannon pinion, 2nd wheel, (occasionally 3rd wheel on large movements), some keyless components, oscillating weight bearings.
Moebius 9010, 3rd, 4th, escape wheel pivots, pallet stone faces (there's a special lubricant for this but it's expensive)
The above is simply a general guide, for your Orient movement i'd recommend the following.
8217 barrel wall
8300 for all the metal to metal including the barrel arbor if it's in metal bushings.
D5/HP1300 barrel arbor if jewelled and 2nd wheel pivots, cannon pinion, oscillating weight bearings.
9010 3rd, 4th, escape, 1st reduction wheel teeth that the magic lever for the auto winding bear on.
Silicone grease for crown and case back gasket.