I love your no-nonsense and no paid bias reviews even with products you're given. I trust what you say about products more than anyone else. I learn so much from you!
Hi Lindsay - It is almost worth it just for the tin. And for just practice and sketching. I'd be skeptical about the, "Master", branding as well. There are a LOT of inexpensive watercolors coming out of China and Asia right now, not an issue with that, but the lack of transparency around pigments would make me pause as you did. Thanks for posting this Lindsay. Have a great week! - Marty
Totally, I wouldn't claim they are professional by any means but the paints not bad and the tin is fantastic. I think it's worth the price, it's much better than other $20 student sets I've tried.
Great review as always Lindsay! I also used ro be a watercolour purist, but as I get older, like you, I learn to embrace to use and love the materials as they are. I think trying out and started working with gouache was my turning point, I mixed a lot of colors while using gouache and found how important white paints in gouache! Now I just enjoy my materials and find myself more relaxed and love making art even more :)
I would love a video about water color colors. What they are typically made from. What the basic colors are. Typical light fastness of each. Things like that.
The breadth and depth of your knowledge really shows in this video, and I found the information very useful, regardless of whether I end up buying the paint set. Thanks!
Hi Lindsay, Your video came up as I finish watching one of your current ones and I said wow this look so much like the other one with the parrot that you suggested. So I look on Amazon and it has the 5 dollars off. I order it. Yay. I have so much art supplies to try on this winter break so happy.
Well it's a year ago you did this video and I bought a set of 24 watercolours on sale before Christmas 2021. I am a beginner watercolourist. I used to paint in oils. Anyway my set is exactly like this one from Artsy except mine had a label deBoot which peeled off very easily. I live in South Africa. I love the tin and at the moment the colours are good enough for my practising. Thanks Lindsay!
Lindsey, thanks for this review. I was able to grab this for 15.00 dollars I like them. I did notice that the info on the printed sheet didn’t match the name on the wrap o the pans. I like them . So even though I didn’t need them I do like them. Your reviews are great .
Your reviews and helpful tips have taught me so much. Thank you. I am slowly taking a look at your videos from way back when. Guess it's because I'm new to watercolor but I find myself wishing for a tips, hints, useful tools, etc. video form you...... :) Appreciate all you share
Lindsay there is pigment info in the photos on Amazon, in the color chart. Whether they are accurate or not, 🤷♀️. FYI you were pretty much spot on although they do claim the sea blue is Phthalo pb15.
I was about to say the same thing! I bought a set of these and I’m a Daniel Smith kinda girl and I refused to pay $39.99 for 24 Paul Reubens when I can get 24 full plans of St.Petersburg White Nights for just a bit more. So, I checked one day after I’d been playing in my sketchbook for a bit and saw these for $7.99 with a coupon! I bought five…maybe six. Great gifts, even if I am giving away some friendly stocking stuffer info! Keep an eye out and heck, shoot them an email to let them know you’d drop $45-50 on several if the price drops again (😉) and get some decent paints. Now, I’m in the process of lightfastness testing. So far…YAY! The reds/low tinting should’ve faded and haven’t. Did I luck out? Store closing? I know this, they look soooo much like my friend’s Paul Ruben’s set and we pulled out 24 from her 48 set that I couldn’t tell the difference at all. It’s eerie. Did I happen to get over-runs? Idk. I’m thinking these will definitely be my card paints and the way my house is oriented, I’ve had them in direct sunlight for 8 hrs a day (x 2 months) in Aug. still waiting for fade. I’ve had friends who have bought off brands and got what appeared to be P. Rubens and had a mutual friend order and get what appeared to be Master’s Touch quality a week apart. Bait/switch. Lindsey recommends…and it’s on! Lol. Don’t stop reviews! 💗💗Thx, all! They’re a coupon right now and they’re worth the $15-16 or, honestly, *more*.
The empty metal palette alone would be about $8-12, so not bad for the price. I'm glad to see that you did a sketch of the misty watercolor. I didn't and realized where I went wrong when I was close to completion ! It was still inspirational and I got some ideas from it that I want to try on future paintings, so thank you. Once again, thank you for all that you do!
Thanks! I was very impressed with how in depth your review was. It was fun to see your work product in the comparisons. I really want to learn to watercolor and this seems like a good place to start. They were $19.99 with a 5% coupon, so $18.99. Bought them through your link.
I found this on a closeout, so I had to get it! The tin, the tin! OMG, I hugged it when I saw it. (I wish the Paul Reubens had the same color of tin. Bought PR, returned them without opening because of the pink...) The plastic half-pans are nicer than some Daniel Smith branded half-pans I have. The paints are kind of fun. Lots of unexpected color shifting, but the rather weak Ultramarine still granulates. And some of the other paints do too, so they aren't entirely dye, which is a plus. Some of the color mixes I made are really nice. The dominating selection of browns and black/greys are a little weird, especially with all the duplication. But I can replace those with other paints I have, once I figure out how to dissolve the glue they invariably use to hold the paint to the pan. Would recommend if Amazon carries them again.
Lindsay, taking advantage of the coupon and my Amazon credits got the paints for $11! What a deal. Think I'll dispense with the black after seeing your results and replace with another black. Anxious to try these.
Decided to take the watercolor plunge and buy these as a beginner set- to date I've only played around with Acrylic. :) Thanks for your review, but especially your tutorials :)
I just purchased the 24 set for under $10 Amazon USD and the 48 set for $15. The sets that I received have pigment, color name and number information included and are labeled as Superior but the colors are the same numbers and names, same chipboard box, cloth, tin etc..... The first thing I noticed while using them is there is little to no flow when painting wet into wet. I though maybe these are formulated wrong and that's why they are so inexpensive. I find them difficult to work with but the lovely tins are the reason I purchased them in the first place and at that price it's a steal just for the tins. The other thing is, several of the paints either cracked when they dried or had surface cracks that look to be ready to flake off. Hard to explain. Have you experienced any of these issues?
Just ordered a set of amazon. I’m really excited to try them out! Are they comparable to other student grade watercolors like Van Gogh, wn cotman, sonnet? And also, are they more transparent or opaque wc?
Thank you for the review. I just bought the watercolor paint for $18.99, with a 5% coupon off. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are the same as Rembrandt. Have a nice evening.~ Fran
One can hope 🤣 I have the 12 half pan set of Rembrandt. They were at a great price. I couldn’t believe how much more the 24 set was. I’m a Pen & Ink artist and trying out new to me mediums that are out of my comfort zone. It’s fun “to play in the paint and stuff”. I love color washes on my Pen & Ink artwork. Thank you for being so generous with your time and talent. I’m so glad you are in a heated room for your videos. I hope you have a heated space for your studio this winter. Take care, I’ll see you tomorrow.~Fran
Omg, your matter-of-fact way of saying Indian Yellow isn't what it originally was-I laughed out loud. I am thinking of buying a good, cheap set for the tin. I recently bought some empty tins and figured why not get some sketchbook paint with it for practically the same price. I've been perusing through some of your old videos for your priceless, informative reviews.
Lindsey , another thing I’ve learned. I did not know you painted 🤗I’ve been looking for a very good watercolor paint. I’d love to learn. Oh my goodness, both paintings are truly wonderful. I love the “fall” Is the artsy paint as good as what you have been using? I’m getting some ideas for paint brushes, and paper as well. I really would like to start out using the “better ones” so I don’t get frustrated. You can get back to me whenever time allows.
These artsy paint are a good budget paint and I used it for the examples in the video. It's not a professional paint do if I am doing work meant to last I use a professional brand. It's a great starter or sketching set.
Thanks for another great review and comparison! I know your first impression led you to compare the paints to Paul Rubins (because of the cloth included in the packaging). But the color of the box and the price immediately reminded me of the Pretty Excellent set. How do you think they compare?
I have both and I don't like these nearly as much as Pretty Excellent. You get less color variety and I noticed that some of the colors feel more gritty and don't flow as well in really wet washes as Pretty Excellent. If it matters to you, I also noticed they don't react as well to salt for the texture trick.
Thanks for the info Kimberly, I didnt use salt in my demo. I noticed there was less flow but other than black the colors mixed cleanly for me ( you reviewed a 48 set from another brand so if they are the same the other additions may have been chalkier multiple pigment mixes.) That said, the pretty excellent are more transparent and clean looking. The colors in my set were not gritty tho but it might be the selection artsy chose rather than the set the company you reviewed put together. I mention that because of the superior fan palettes. I lived the 42 set but then I bought the cocktail and pastel sets and they were a chalky mess. Same company and paint but the colors and formulation in those colors were terrible.
My question too. I really love the Pretty Excellent paints. I just wish it had half pans instead of the plastic thingy, not fond of that. I haven't looked to see if they still sell those as I was going to recommend them the other day to a beginner.
I also wanna know! I really wanted to get a set with actual half pans although I love the Pretty Excellent, I didn't like how the paint is on that thin plastic
For what it's worth, I have both and didn't like these nearly as much as Pretty Excellent. You get less color variety and I noticed that some of the colors feel more gritty and don't flow as well in really wet washes as Pretty Excellent. If it matters to you, I also noticed they don't react as well to salt for the texture trick.
When I went on amazon, they showed a picture with light fastness and pigment info when you slide through the product picture info. Not sure if it’s true, but why put it there if it’s not.
Thanks for the review. The tin reminds me of the Pretty Excellent paint set but these do not look quite as lovely or as clean mixing as the Pretty Excellent paints. Love that gorgeous eggplant.
I love my Van Gogh pocket boxes (I'm pretty happy with just the basics and the muted coloured ones from those, I'm so used to mixing anyway, I don't need crazy big palettes [thx to my primary school art classes, those obnoxious opaque watercolours we had to use there and the Pelikan transparent water colours I started with and still use ]^^'), but these look pretty sweet, as well :)
@@thefrugalcrafter they must've recently posted it because I bought mine the day you put your first video out about them. I was specifically looking for that information for my file and didn't see any of it. It seems they added a few more pictures since then, too.
Just bought it...do I need it? Nah...but thanks to your video..I needed some colours , especially the paynes,hooker and a couple of others,I am a beginner so really not tooo worried about the lightfastness, it's more about recognizing the colours right now, playing around..and besides I love buying pallets, eyeshadow..watercolor..its about color therapy and knowledge lol..besides this one seems to be a wonderful travel set, it really does, it has all the colors I can use..so thank you so much..hey, I just came across a wonderful black ..Qor carbon black gosh it spreads like Angel webbed wings..😁.. I was having my blood test done today and I went like Hmmm.. this is kinda cadmium red..on the cotton ..kinda spread out and in the tube it was darker obviously, mixed with green, and I told that to the pathologist, and she is like, yeah , really nice , healthy coloured blood 🤣🤣🤣🤣..
The light fastness on this set is actually pretty good! I found out more about the parent company Superior and have another set witg these colors and the pigments look good!
@@thefrugalcrafter That's a plus then! I bought it from artsy global, will get it in a week or two..all the colors in this pallet appeal to me, and great to travel with ( if I ever can ) lol.. Thank you so much ! 😊
On Amazon they do have a picture with the pigments listed. It looks like the pigments for the Cad Yellow and Cad Red are actual cadmium pigments. PY35 and PR108.
That's odd, there should be a CL label on the box. I'm going to have to mention that to the seller and put a warning of potential cadmium in my post so people dont give these to young children. I am really confused at how they can be so cheap with expensive cad colors tho.
@@thefrugalcrafter Will try that. Where do you start on the color wheel? Seems it's at the 2:07 mark and looks like green, yellow, red on the left. Blue, black, brown on the right. Need to swatch after.
On Amazon link, I saw the questions area. Someone asked what grade these were. The company said "Artist's". Makes me wonder if they were trying to hint "professional" but can't say that for legal reasons = not professional paints. Tricky maybe? I do really like the color of the tin though.
Sadly no one regulates the team artist quality or professional. I would not call these professional but a nice student or practise range. Several viewers found pigment and lightfast info on the Amazon listing tho and they looked ok but they are not the same quality of my m Graham's, senellier, schminke or others.
I love listening to you talk! You are just so smart and I really appreciate all reviews you do. I have loved so many paints that you recommended on your channel. I love crafting so much. I need a crafty mom like you. I would be in heaven if you were my mom. #adopt me lol
Yes! And 16 of the 24 are noted as single pigment. Surprised at the cadmiums being actual cads, tho, as another commenter said. Ok for me as an older artist who is careful, but not so much for kids!
@@thefrugalcrafter Pigment is PR108, but it is also claimed to be non-toxic on the Amazon website: Safe, non-toxic, conforms to safety certificates: U.S. ASTM D-4236 & EU EN71.
@@labellaflora.... I would think there would be a "do not spray apply" warming but maybe because you typically wouldn't they don't need one. Cadmium pigments are not as toxic as they used to be as the pigment is coated so it won't seep into skin or be absorbed in the body if ingested but claiming git is non-toxic feels wrong to me. I am really surprised. I updated my video description to reflect the info. I ran this by a chemist friend of mine and he said the level you would need to eat would be like 30 tubes worth and the amount in this set would be fine. Still, I think a disclosure is important, even if it is just pigment info and a label in the box. All major paint companies do this, probably out of fear of litigation, but I like knowing if any potentially toxic chemicals are in my paint.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you for being such a responsible person, Lindsay. Your technical expertise is continually amazing. What on earth did you major in? 😇 Knowledge of Cads and chromiums and others have made me start dumping my paint water into a big container which then evaporates the water, then have local hazardous waste pick up the residue. Just can't bear adding that gunk into the ground or waste water.
The shammy...how big a possibility it’s made by the Paul Reubens people? I’m thinking, their Pretty paint but in a more conventional form. Edit:just found that section. Nvm.
They are quite different. The prima (and Mungyo, paper fashion and jane davenport) are great when you want lots of flow but they lift too easily (and are a bit too opaque) to later and glaze well. If you want to make a background with lots of color and you want the paint to flow like crazy than prima is great. If you would rather layer your paint and have more controll these are better. Its personal preference.
I have a feeling that these are made by same Factory as Paul Rubens - the packaging is practically the same. Maybe it is a rebranding of their student line. Even the color selection seems to mirror theirs...
Hi Kimberly, I saw your review of the similar 48 set that appears to be from the same factory. It seems that the 24 selection is stronger as a whole compared to the 48 set you reviewed. I have found with some of these sets that the set would be better if they eliminated poor colors. I agree, they are not as good as Paul Rubens but the packaging is very similar. The same was true for their metallic set. but the watercolors are half the price of paul Rubens and I think that's a good value. Do you think the paints we reviewed are the same?
@@thefrugalcrafter Yeah, Superior, Artsy, Tinge, Dainaw and Xiley (sp?) all re-brand the exact same items sometimes. The quality between each type of item is really variable (such as in the case of all the different varieties and color counts of fan palettes) making it really hard to rely on any of these brands. When it's a straight up copy of one particular item (like this "master level" set) it's just the label that changes with a new brand name, not the paint. I think you're totally right about the 24 set selection being much better choices compared to the 48 set. There were a lot more problematic pigments in the 48 variation, but both are available as Artsy or Superior. The factory making these appears to be trying to make a profit off the success of Paul Rubens by looking like a cheap alternative to them. When looking closely at the sets we reviewed I saw that the color codes match (ie "Indian Yellow b252", "cadmium red d215" etc) and the only thing different is the stickers on the pans and the text that says "artsy" instead of "superior" on the box. Only about 4 of the 48 colors had a normal salt reaction and flow to the paint, it's possible that it's something in the binder, but I suspect part of the gritty unusual granulation is them not finely grinding their pigments enough?
@@KimberlyCrick thanks for the info. Maybe it's a different binder. They do seem to want to grab on to the popularity of Paul rubens paint. Your pan labels had pigment info but mine didnt but several viewers said it's on the amazon listing photo (I dont know how I missed it lol!) Sadly some of the companies will charge Paul rubens price instead of a fair price. So, did your box say non toxic too with real cadmium and cobalts? I didnt think it would have the real deal for the price or without the CL label on the box. I though that was a law to sell art products containing those pigments in in America.
@@thefrugalcrafter Yes I've seen that recently with these types of sets, marking them non-toxic yet seemingly having cobalts and cadmiums. I'm fairly certain that Pretty Excellent's cobalt blue is not a hue either, though that set is also "non-toxic". I'm not sure what is up with that, doesn't seem right at all. I'd be really curious what the laws are regarding that. I've seen no warnings on Cobalt Blue PB28 in the past, even though I know it's suppose to have the "PROP 65" warning for CA on it.
How does this work with companies using real pigments and being so cheap? I'm a complete noob but I always thought they weren't using actual pigments similar to artist grade, and were using dyes or something else. BTW, I wouldn't believe them when they claim any lightfastness or cadmium pigments, I mean come on!
There are several ways companies cut costs. 1. Cheaper materials 2. Cheaper labor 3. Sourcing materials in bulk 4. Selling mass market so the profit per item is smaller. These companies do all of these things and they also white labled the products to american art and craft companies who mark them up almost double. Actually many of the cheaper products on amaxon ate much better than the big box store brand as they often choose the absolute cheapest product so they can make the biggest profit. I take any lightfast claims with a grain of salt unless it's from an established brand that has undergone blue wool or astm testing. Still, some if these sets are a great value for learning.
Hi Lindsay! Hi fellow fans of The Frugal Crafter! This channel is about to reach the milestone of 500k subscribers! To celebrate let's show our love of crafting and make a bunch of cards (how about 500k?) to donate to charity. (Mine are going to Meals on Wheels which I volunteer for.) Share your cards (and love of crafting, of course) with Lindsay by posting pics of them to hashtag #frugalcrafter500k on Instagram. (This way we won't make a lot of work for Lindsay or overwhelm her social media accounts. And we can enjoy the cards, too!) Congratulations, Lindsay! Better make room above your desk for your next TH-cam award!
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I love your no-nonsense and no paid bias reviews even with products you're given. I trust what you say about products more than anyone else. I learn so much from you!
Thanks!
Hi Lindsay - It is almost worth it just for the tin. And for just practice and sketching. I'd be skeptical about the, "Master", branding as well. There are a LOT of inexpensive watercolors coming out of China and Asia right now, not an issue with that, but the lack of transparency around pigments would make me pause as you did.
Thanks for posting this Lindsay.
Have a great week! - Marty
Totally, I wouldn't claim they are professional by any means but the paints not bad and the tin is fantastic. I think it's worth the price, it's much better than other $20 student sets I've tried.
Great review as always Lindsay!
I also used ro be a watercolour purist, but as I get older, like you, I learn to embrace to use and love the materials as they are. I think trying out and started working with gouache was my turning point, I mixed a lot of colors while using gouache and found how important white paints in gouache!
Now I just enjoy my materials and find myself more relaxed and love making art even more :)
I would love a video about water color colors. What they are typically made from. What the basic colors are. Typical light fastness of each. Things like that.
I have a beginner watercolor playlist
@@thefrugalcrafter thanks. I'll check it out.
The breadth and depth of your knowledge really shows in this video, and I found the information very useful, regardless of whether I end up buying the paint set. Thanks!
Great review. Your thoughts on this are important to me. I am so glad you went over how they mixed between them and the flow.
Hi Lindsay, Your video came up as I finish watching one of your current ones and I said wow this look so much like the other one with the parrot that you suggested. So I look on Amazon and it has the 5 dollars off. I order it. Yay. I have so much art supplies to try on this winter break so happy.
Very nice colors and great deal for beginner watercolors. Also cheap watercolors can be quite fun to use as well. Loving that foldable palette.
"Eggplants,a great tasting veggie,but awesome in watercolor paintings." -Lynn Lindsay,thank you for sharing.🤗😀🏆🌹💐
Well it's a year ago you did this video and I bought a set of 24 watercolours on sale before Christmas 2021. I am a beginner watercolourist. I used to paint in oils. Anyway my set is exactly like this one from Artsy except mine had a label deBoot which peeled off very easily. I live in South Africa. I love the tin and at the moment the colours are good enough for my practising. Thanks Lindsay!
Your reviews are always so fair and thorough! The forest scene that you painted is absolutely gorgeous!
Lindsey, thanks for this review. I was able to grab this for 15.00 dollars I like them. I did notice that the info on the printed sheet didn’t match the name on the wrap o the pans. I like them . So even though I didn’t need them I do like them. Your reviews are great .
Thanks!
Your reviews and helpful tips have taught me so much. Thank you. I am slowly taking a look at your videos from way back when. Guess it's because I'm new to watercolor but I find myself wishing for a tips, hints, useful tools, etc. video form you...... :) Appreciate all you share
Lindsay there is pigment info in the photos on Amazon, in the color chart. Whether they are accurate or not, 🤷♀️. FYI you were pretty much spot on although they do claim the sea blue is Phthalo pb15.
How did I miss that? Thank you!
thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich Well, the print is kind of tiny!😉
I was about to say the same thing! I bought a set of these and I’m a Daniel Smith kinda girl and I refused to pay $39.99 for 24 Paul Reubens when I can get 24 full plans of St.Petersburg White Nights for just a bit more. So, I checked one day after I’d been playing in my sketchbook for a bit and saw these for $7.99 with a coupon! I bought five…maybe six. Great gifts, even if I am giving away some friendly stocking stuffer info! Keep an eye out and heck, shoot them an email to let them know you’d drop $45-50 on several if the price drops again (😉) and get some decent paints. Now, I’m in the process of lightfastness testing. So far…YAY! The reds/low tinting should’ve faded and haven’t. Did I luck out? Store closing? I know this, they look soooo much like my friend’s Paul Ruben’s set and we pulled out 24 from her 48 set that I couldn’t tell the difference at all. It’s eerie. Did I happen to get over-runs? Idk. I’m thinking these will definitely be my card paints and the way my house is oriented, I’ve had them in direct sunlight for 8 hrs a day (x 2 months) in Aug. still waiting for fade. I’ve had friends who have bought off brands and got what appeared to be P. Rubens and had a mutual friend order and get what appeared to be Master’s Touch quality a week apart. Bait/switch. Lindsey recommends…and it’s on! Lol. Don’t stop reviews! 💗💗Thx, all! They’re a coupon right now and they’re worth the $15-16 or, honestly, *more*.
@@urbangypsy69 wow you got a deal. I found them for 12$ and bought one. They are sold out now. Maybe cause you bought them all. Lol
The empty metal palette alone would be about $8-12, so not bad for the price. I'm glad to see that you did a sketch of the misty watercolor. I didn't and realized where I went wrong when I was close to completion ! It was still inspirational and I got some ideas from it that I want to try on future paintings, so thank you. Once again, thank you for all that you do!
I love your swatch book! Great review, as usual! Thanks!
Thanks as always for great review. Love how you do Pros and Cons!
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Very very helpful! Thank you. Looking forward to traveling again after Covid and love the idea of 24 good quality colors on the go for sketching
Thanks! I was very impressed with how in depth your review was. It was fun to see your work product in the comparisons. I really want to learn to watercolor and this seems like a good place to start. They were $19.99 with a 5% coupon, so $18.99. Bought them through your link.
Thanks!
I found this on a closeout, so I had to get it! The tin, the tin! OMG, I hugged it when I saw it. (I wish the Paul Reubens had the same color of tin. Bought PR, returned them without opening because of the pink...) The plastic half-pans are nicer than some Daniel Smith branded half-pans I have. The paints are kind of fun. Lots of unexpected color shifting, but the rather weak Ultramarine still granulates. And some of the other paints do too, so they aren't entirely dye, which is a plus. Some of the color mixes I made are really nice. The dominating selection of browns and black/greys are a little weird, especially with all the duplication. But I can replace those with other paints I have, once I figure out how to dissolve the glue they invariably use to hold the paint to the pan. Would recommend if Amazon carries them again.
Lindsay, taking advantage of the coupon and my Amazon credits got the paints for $11! What a deal. Think I'll dispense with the black after seeing your results and replace with another black. Anxious to try these.
Just ordered from your link this is the review I was waiting for. Thank you
Thanks!
Just getting into finding out that water colors are so different! Interesting review.
Decided to take the watercolor plunge and buy these as a beginner set- to date I've only played around with Acrylic. :) Thanks for your review, but especially your tutorials :)
Hey girl, the lightfastness and pigments used for these paints are on amazon. You can see them when you scroll through the products images.
Wow loved your egg plant . And you do know know your watercolors thank for sharing your knowledge Stay safe
I just purchased the 24 set for under $10 Amazon USD and the 48 set for $15. The sets that I received have pigment, color name and number information included and are labeled as Superior but the colors are the same numbers and names, same chipboard box, cloth, tin etc..... The first thing I noticed while using them is there is little to no flow when painting wet into wet. I though maybe these are formulated wrong and that's why they are so inexpensive. I find them difficult to work with but the lovely tins are the reason I purchased them in the first place and at that price it's a steal just for the tins. The other thing is, several of the paints either cracked when they dried or had surface cracks that look to be ready to flake off. Hard to explain. Have you experienced any of these issues?
Had to go get these for my daughter! Thanks for sharing!!
Just ordered a set of amazon. I’m really excited to try them out! Are they comparable to other student grade watercolors like Van Gogh, wn cotman, sonnet? And also, are they more transparent or opaque wc?
Very compatible and quite transparent!
Thank you for the review. I just bought the watercolor paint for $18.99, with a 5% coupon off. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are the same as Rembrandt. Have a nice evening.~ Fran
I have the Rembrandt tin of 48 and they are quite different.
One can hope 🤣 I have the 12 half pan set of Rembrandt. They were at a great price. I couldn’t believe how much more the 24 set was. I’m a Pen & Ink artist and trying out new to me mediums that are out of my comfort zone. It’s fun “to play in the paint and stuff”. I love color washes on my Pen & Ink artwork. Thank you for being so generous with your time and talent. I’m so glad you are in a heated room for your videos. I hope you have a heated space for your studio this winter. Take care, I’ll see you tomorrow.~Fran
thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich I said the wrong watercolor paint! I have Paul Rubens, not Rembrandt. ☺️
They are similar but not the same:)
Omg, your matter-of-fact way of saying Indian Yellow isn't what it originally was-I laughed out loud. I am thinking of buying a good, cheap set for the tin. I recently bought some empty tins and figured why not get some sketchbook paint with it for practically the same price. I've been perusing through some of your old videos for your priceless, informative reviews.
Thanks so much! I also have a review on ranking all my student grade watercolors if you want to see where a particular brand lands:)
I will do that, thanks!
Lindsey , another thing I’ve learned. I did not know you painted 🤗I’ve been looking for a very good watercolor paint. I’d love to learn. Oh my goodness, both paintings are truly wonderful. I love the “fall” Is the artsy paint as good as what you have been using? I’m getting some ideas for paint brushes, and paper as well. I really would like to start out using the “better ones” so I don’t get frustrated. You can get back to me whenever time allows.
These artsy paint are a good budget paint and I used it for the examples in the video. It's not a professional paint do if I am doing work meant to last I use a professional brand. It's a great starter or sketching set.
Thanks for another great review and comparison! I know your first impression led you to compare the paints to Paul Rubins (because of the cloth included in the packaging). But the color of the box and the price immediately reminded me of the Pretty Excellent set. How do you think they compare?
That's my question too. Imo, the Pretty Excellent are pretty excellent paints!😀
I have both and I don't like these nearly as much as Pretty Excellent. You get less color variety and I noticed that some of the colors feel more gritty and don't flow as well in really wet washes as Pretty Excellent. If it matters to you, I also noticed they don't react as well to salt for the texture trick.
Thanks for the info Kimberly, I didnt use salt in my demo. I noticed there was less flow but other than black the colors mixed cleanly for me ( you reviewed a 48 set from another brand so if they are the same the other additions may have been chalkier multiple pigment mixes.) That said, the pretty excellent are more transparent and clean looking. The colors in my set were not gritty tho but it might be the selection artsy chose rather than the set the company you reviewed put together. I mention that because of the superior fan palettes. I lived the 42 set but then I bought the cocktail and pastel sets and they were a chalky mess. Same company and paint but the colors and formulation in those colors were terrible.
thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich thanks for your thoughtful and quick replies. I do love the kosher salt trick!
Thanks Lindsay. How did they compare to Pretty Excellent paints? But the tin, empty pand and water brush would be a deal anyway.
My question too. I really love the Pretty Excellent paints. I just wish it had half pans instead of the plastic thingy, not fond of that. I haven't looked to see if they still sell those as I was going to recommend them the other day to a beginner.
I also wanna know! I really wanted to get a set with actual half pans although I love the Pretty Excellent, I didn't like how the paint is on that thin plastic
@@cassiescreations9828 Yes they do Cassie. O daw them today on amazon for 21.98$
For what it's worth, I have both and didn't like these nearly as much as Pretty Excellent. You get less color variety and I noticed that some of the colors feel more gritty and don't flow as well in really wet washes as Pretty Excellent. If it matters to you, I also noticed they don't react as well to salt for the texture trick.
@@KimberlyCrick Thanks Kimberly.
When I went on amazon, they showed a picture with light fastness and pigment info when you slide through the product picture info. Not sure if it’s true, but why put it there if it’s not.
Thanks for the review. The tin reminds me of the Pretty Excellent paint set but these do not look quite as lovely or as clean mixing as the Pretty Excellent paints. Love that gorgeous eggplant.
They are not as transparent as pretty excellent.
I love my Van Gogh pocket boxes (I'm pretty happy with just the basics and the muted coloured ones from those, I'm so used to mixing anyway, I don't need crazy big palettes [thx to my primary school art classes, those obnoxious opaque watercolours we had to use there and the Pelikan transparent water colours I started with and still use ]^^'), but these look pretty sweet, as well :)
They actually have pigment info. If you check the second photo on Amazon ,there you get all the pigments they use.
I was going to point out the same thing!
I can't believe I missed it!
@@thefrugalcrafter no problem😊 I just wanted to point that out in case you haven't noticed the pigment info chart
I love your reviews,by the way
@@thefrugalcrafter they must've recently posted it because I bought mine the day you put your first video out about them. I was specifically looking for that information for my file and didn't see any of it. It seems they added a few more pictures since then, too.
Just bought it...do I need it? Nah...but thanks to your video..I needed some colours , especially the paynes,hooker and a couple of others,I am a beginner so really not tooo worried about the lightfastness, it's more about recognizing the colours right now, playing around..and besides I love buying pallets, eyeshadow..watercolor..its about color therapy and knowledge lol..besides this one seems to be a wonderful travel set, it really does, it has all the colors I can use..so thank you so much..hey, I just came across a wonderful black ..Qor carbon black gosh it spreads like Angel webbed wings..😁..
I was having my blood test done today and I went like Hmmm.. this is kinda cadmium red..on the cotton ..kinda spread out and in the tube it was darker obviously, mixed with green, and I told that to the pathologist, and she is like, yeah , really nice , healthy coloured blood 🤣🤣🤣🤣..
The light fastness on this set is actually pretty good! I found out more about the parent company Superior and have another set witg these colors and the pigments look good!
@@thefrugalcrafter That's a plus then! I bought it from artsy global, will get it in a week or two..all the colors in this pallet appeal to me, and great to travel with ( if I ever can ) lol..
Thank you so much ! 😊
Good Morning Lindsey. The card is gorgeous.
I got mine for $15!!! Can't wait for it to get here!
Sweet deal! That $5 off coupon didnt last for long, I'm glad some viewers got to grab it!
On Amazon they do have a picture with the pigments listed. It looks like the pigments for the Cad Yellow and Cad Red are actual cadmium pigments. PY35 and PR108.
So toxic?
@@cassiescreations9828 according to artiscreation.com, yes.
@@mariw3991 Yep, it says Cad red and cad yellow right on Amazon!
That's odd, there should be a CL label on the box. I'm going to have to mention that to the seller and put a warning of potential cadmium in my post so people dont give these to young children. I am really confused at how they can be so cheap with expensive cad colors tho.
It's funny that you actually believe them though...
How do you decide to arrange your half pans? Is that in a video somewhere?
I do it like a color wheel
@@thefrugalcrafter Aha...will look for my color wheel. I always think rainbows.
@@thefrugalcrafter Will try that. Where do you start on the color wheel? Seems it's at the 2:07 mark and looks like green, yellow, red on the left. Blue, black, brown on the right. Need to swatch after.
Thanks or the review and comparison. 👍😊
On Amazon link, I saw the questions area. Someone asked what grade these were. The company said "Artist's". Makes me wonder if they were trying to hint "professional" but can't say that for legal reasons = not professional paints. Tricky maybe? I do really like the color of the tin though.
Sadly no one regulates the team artist quality or professional. I would not call these professional but a nice student or practise range. Several viewers found pigment and lightfast info on the Amazon listing tho and they looked ok but they are not the same quality of my m Graham's, senellier, schminke or others.
looks like a nice starter set for any one who is new with a good range of colours, cud it be PBk8 wood charcoal? TFS
Maybe
I love listening to you talk! You are just so smart and I really appreciate all reviews you do. I have loved so many paints that you recommended on your channel. I love crafting so much. I need a crafty mom like you. I would be in heaven if you were my mom. #adopt me lol
One of the pictures on the Amazon listing shows the pigment numbers.
Yes! And 16 of the 24 are noted as single pigment. Surprised at the cadmiums being actual cads, tho, as another commenter said. Ok for me as an older artist who is careful, but not so much for kids!
I'll check it out!
@@thefrugalcrafter Pigment is PR108, but it is also claimed to be non-toxic on the Amazon website: Safe, non-toxic, conforms to safety certificates: U.S. ASTM D-4236 & EU EN71.
@@labellaflora.... I would think there would be a "do not spray apply" warming but maybe because you typically wouldn't they don't need one. Cadmium pigments are not as toxic as they used to be as the pigment is coated so it won't seep into skin or be absorbed in the body if ingested but claiming git is non-toxic feels wrong to me. I am really surprised. I updated my video description to reflect the info. I ran this by a chemist friend of mine and he said the level you would need to eat would be like 30 tubes worth and the amount in this set would be fine. Still, I think a disclosure is important, even if it is just pigment info and a label in the box. All major paint companies do this, probably out of fear of litigation, but I like knowing if any potentially toxic chemicals are in my paint.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you for being such a responsible person, Lindsay. Your technical expertise is continually amazing. What on earth did you major in? 😇 Knowledge of Cads and chromiums and others have made me start dumping my paint water into a big container which then evaporates the water, then have local hazardous waste pick up the residue. Just can't bear adding that gunk into the ground or waste water.
Can you review etchr new watercolors? Idk why but the first time i used i wasnt impressed!
The shammy...how big a possibility it’s made by the Paul Reubens people? I’m thinking, their Pretty paint but in a more conventional form.
Edit:just found that section. Nvm.
Where do these hit compared to prima marketing? How do you now feel about the prima marketing watercolors?
They are quite different. The prima (and Mungyo, paper fashion and jane davenport) are great when you want lots of flow but they lift too easily (and are a bit too opaque) to later and glaze well. If you want to make a background with lots of color and you want the paint to flow like crazy than prima is great. If you would rather layer your paint and have more controll these are better. Its personal preference.
Do you like using acrylic paints?
Almost at 500K 😮
No 5.00 coupon today. But they had a 5% and saved 1.00.
6:24 sorry did you say COW PEE is typically used for Indian Yellow??
Lol that's was a shock to me 😆
That's how Indian yellow was made in the old days. If you learn colour theory and history of colours and that's one of them.
@@pikame921 im 61 yrs old art is all new to me
@@terrydockery3690 so am I but my kids caught me a few things.
@@pikame921 cool mine is in to crafting i hurt my back so took up drawing and painting
I have a feeling that these are made by same Factory as Paul Rubens - the packaging is practically the same. Maybe it is a rebranding of their student line. Even the color selection seems to mirror theirs...
A lot of companies are trying to copy Paul Rubens success, but these are not the same quality, it's just a look-a-like knock off type situation.
Hi Kimberly, I saw your review of the similar 48 set that appears to be from the same factory. It seems that the 24 selection is stronger as a whole compared to the 48 set you reviewed. I have found with some of these sets that the set would be better if they eliminated poor colors. I agree, they are not as good as Paul Rubens but the packaging is very similar. The same was true for their metallic set. but the watercolors are half the price of paul Rubens and I think that's a good value. Do you think the paints we reviewed are the same?
@@thefrugalcrafter Yeah, Superior, Artsy, Tinge, Dainaw and Xiley (sp?) all re-brand the exact same items sometimes. The quality between each type of item is really variable (such as in the case of all the different varieties and color counts of fan palettes) making it really hard to rely on any of these brands. When it's a straight up copy of one particular item (like this "master level" set) it's just the label that changes with a new brand name, not the paint. I think you're totally right about the 24 set selection being much better choices compared to the 48 set. There were a lot more problematic pigments in the 48 variation, but both are available as Artsy or Superior. The factory making these appears to be trying to make a profit off the success of Paul Rubens by looking like a cheap alternative to them. When looking closely at the sets we reviewed I saw that the color codes match (ie "Indian Yellow b252", "cadmium red d215" etc) and the only thing different is the stickers on the pans and the text that says "artsy" instead of "superior" on the box. Only about 4 of the 48 colors had a normal salt reaction and flow to the paint, it's possible that it's something in the binder, but I suspect part of the gritty unusual granulation is them not finely grinding their pigments enough?
@@KimberlyCrick thanks for the info. Maybe it's a different binder. They do seem to want to grab on to the popularity of Paul rubens paint. Your pan labels had pigment info but mine didnt but several viewers said it's on the amazon listing photo (I dont know how I missed it lol!) Sadly some of the companies will charge Paul rubens price instead of a fair price. So, did your box say non toxic too with real cadmium and cobalts? I didnt think it would have the real deal for the price or without the CL label on the box. I though that was a law to sell art products containing those pigments in in America.
@@thefrugalcrafter Yes I've seen that recently with these types of sets, marking them non-toxic yet seemingly having cobalts and cadmiums. I'm fairly certain that Pretty Excellent's cobalt blue is not a hue either, though that set is also "non-toxic". I'm not sure what is up with that, doesn't seem right at all. I'd be really curious what the laws are regarding that. I've seen no warnings on Cobalt Blue PB28 in the past, even though I know it's suppose to have the "PROP 65" warning for CA on it.
Other people: ooooo, food!
You: ooooo, art!
How does this work with companies using real pigments and being so cheap? I'm a complete noob but I always thought they weren't using actual pigments similar to artist grade, and were using dyes or something else. BTW, I wouldn't believe them when they claim any lightfastness or cadmium pigments, I mean come on!
There are several ways companies cut costs. 1. Cheaper materials
2. Cheaper labor
3. Sourcing materials in bulk
4. Selling mass market so the profit per item is smaller.
These companies do all of these things and they also white labled the products to american art and craft companies who mark them up almost double. Actually many of the cheaper products on amaxon ate much better than the big box store brand as they often choose the absolute cheapest product so they can make the biggest profit. I take any lightfast claims with a grain of salt unless it's from an established brand that has undergone blue wool or astm testing. Still, some if these sets are a great value for learning.
the paper box looks exactly like Superior Master Level Set
I think they are probably the same!
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Hi Lindsay! Hi fellow fans of The Frugal Crafter! This channel is about to reach the milestone of 500k subscribers! To celebrate let's show our love of crafting and make a bunch of cards (how about 500k?) to donate to charity. (Mine are going to Meals on Wheels which I volunteer for.) Share your cards (and love of crafting, of course) with Lindsay by posting pics of them to hashtag #frugalcrafter500k on Instagram. (This way we won't make a lot of work for Lindsay or overwhelm her social media accounts. And we can enjoy the cards, too!)
Congratulations, Lindsay! Better make room above your desk for your next TH-cam award!
Aww, you are so sweet! Thank you:)
Not available to Canada :(
There might be different companies offering the same kit.
@@thefrugalcrafter Under another name?
@@bjgoels1 yes maybe, Kimberly Crick reviewed a 48 set she thinks is the same paint on her channel.
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Cheap? 😟
I thought I heard you say "Cow pee". I must have heard wrong, right? Ewww.
Nope you heard right. She said cow pee.
I’m not buying any products made in China anymore. At least one color in this set is from China.