Reform give something for the Conservatives to believe in | Patrick Maguire
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- "Tory MPs who want to believe Rishi Sunak's strategy is failing, who want to believe that the answer to their problems is Nigel Farage, now have a proof point for a new Conservative Party"
The latest YouGov poll showing Reform are one point ahead of the Conservatives, offers more a "psychological impact" to both Reform and Tory voters who are sick of Sunak says Patrick Maguire Times Radio senior political correspondent.
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brexiteer tories are voting reform, so remainer tories should vote Lib Dem 🔶️
Put a conservative candidate with a blue rosette and a dog with a rosette of any other colour, I will vote for the dog.
The conservatives have destroyed this country. Nothing works!
Brilliant 😂
If Labour get in, at the next general election (if there is one) there will be at least another 6 million immigrant voters, plus all the 16 and 17 year olds Starmer is going to give the vote to.
The question is not if Farage is good for the Tory party, it's whether he would be good for the country.
The answer to that is no. Farage would be terrible for the UK. He always has been.
@@jackdubz4247You say that but although I don’t entirely trust him he still represents British traditions more effectively than Starmer or Sunak.
The Tories are done, 14 years of broken promises is long enough.
Voting for them will be a wasted vote, vote reform we need change.
less of a waste to vote tory as at least they have a chance of a few MP's Reform going the same way as UKIP.
voting for reform is voting for russian-backed fascist traitors, led by a conman, that is all.
They got too arrogant and conceited, thought we would stick with them to avoid Labour. Those days are over, Tories are finished. Total abuse of power.
Not a chance, the UkipBrexitReformToryRejects party or whatever they call themselves this month, a bunch of far right idiots even worse than the Tories !
A vote for Sunak will let Labour in.
As, indeed, will a vote for Reform. Great, isn't it?
I used to be a Tory voter, a moderate, right of centre, and I absolutely cannot bloody wait. Can't come soon enough. I despise the right wing of the Tory party. They and Reform are cut from the same cloth, except Reform is even more extreme. The more the right-wing vote is divided, the better for the people of this country. The right-wingers have done enough damage over the last 14 years.
Labour thanks you for voting reform.
A vote for Reform is a vote against Britain. Reform is favoured by Russia and low IQ racists.
@@tonyb9735 I'm just left of center and totally agree with you. I don't mind the mainstream conservatives don't really mind if they got in power but I hate the hard right of the party that has now led to reform.
Reform voters are totally deluded
Tory copium, lol. Voters switching to the Lib Dems is tactical voting in action, in order to inflict the heaviest defeat possible upon the Tories.
This channel has gone into *FULL TORY COPE MODE*
They normally manage to hide it quite well but today its on full display.
Absolutely correct. Labour voters in strong Tory seats will switch to Lib Dem and say so in any poll. Hence any slippage from the Labour lead will appear as a rise in the Lib Dem %.
Vote reform or pack your bags and get out.
@@stephenlyon1358 I've been here a lot longer than you have, sunshine, so why don't you take your own advice and get out yourself.
tories are the lib democrats, we are conservatives... we will vote reform
Loving the Left/Tory progression from ridicule, now to denial..next to astonishment and rage about Reform.
Patrick "don't call me Harry" Maguire
It’s one poll at the moment…..watch this space….onwards and upwards
SKS thanks you for your service.
the guy is a bar debater with no grasp of anything complex - we have had enough of clowns running the country for at least 2 lifetimes
Reform will give a contract for what they are going to do.🇬🇧 the others just lie.
It is not a contract. A contract would be legally enforceable. Who are the parties to the contract? What is the offer. Where is the acceptance?. Would only reform voters have the right to sue when they don't deliver. The contract is made-up legal gobbledygook.
Reform will get many former labour voters like me too
The truth is that all of the people who Labour would be in danger of losing to a right wing party like Reform UK Ltd have already done so, all the way back in 2019. People like you were never coming back.
That's what the Polls seem to show. Labour and Tories are slowly going down in the polls, and Reform are slowly going up.
@@jackdubz4247 I voted for Corbyn which doesn't really fit the narrative
Euro Cup starting tonight Yippeee!
What we can be sure of is...... The Tories have ~380 members of Parliament, and Reform UK has 0 members of Parliament. The Tories now have 18% public support and Reform has 19% public support. The ground beneath our feet is moving.... anyone who does not accept Reform as a potential government has their head in the sand.
I don't know what is happening, but I do know UK Politics is changing and no one knows where it is going to land!
I will be voting Reform at the coming election!
No MPs? Isn't Lee Anderson currently a Reform UK Ltd candidate/MP?
Delighted the football starting tonight - will see us through the next four weeks
Saw Farage being interviewed about reform candidates racists views. Don't know these people, never met them he says.Makes you wonder if Farage knows anything about the party.
it's time the media called him out for what he is, a fascist conman, his policies are completely insane which is why he won't do interviews anymore, he falls apart under the most basic questioning. we need to release the russia report which will show him up for the vile traitor he is.
Of course he doesn't. This whole thing is a massive grift.
One of the people they mentioned has something like 20 followers. Nobody knows who these idiots are who slipped through the cracks. When Farage was running UKIP and now Brexit/Reform, his policy has been very consistent that if you're a former member of the BNP or EDL or something then you can't join his party. People slip through the cracks of a vetting process, and that's true of all parties.
Could you give more details? This may amaze you, but in politics, people sometimes make false accusations of racism against their opponents in order to gain political advantage. It’s also true that people have different definitions of what constitutes racism. For instance, was Diane Abbott being racist when she said that "White people love playing ‘divide and rule’”?
I'm pretty sure labour is going to win, but you can be certain Labour will become immensely unpopular in power and will guarantee Reforms victory in future elections.
absolutely delusional. the british public will never elect fascists, especially not farage, aka the rubel-shop mosley. if the tories give in to them they will be finished as an electable party, like the liberals a century ago.
Mainstream media will tell you lies about polls. I live in a Labour area and don't know anyone who is voting for them.
We want our country back!
have you looked down the back of the sofa?
@@supersocashow3176 stolen by a migrant
What country u mean uk .. yep u need it back from Isreal …that is controlling it all
@@hollyjenkins1500 Soon to be taken by a conman.
@@supersocashow3176 It was never theirs to begin with. it's much a weird mindset to think the whole country belongs to you.
I am fed up with Labour and Tories kicking the ball down the road, knowing full well that by the time they will be held to account, they would no longer be in power. Look at Social care, Blood and Post Office scandals. Fights to Rwanda, Rishi knew they would never take off so called an early election just before the promised first flight in July. I am voting for Reform.
*ENGAGE MAXIMUM COPE MODE*
I don't like how it 's being framed as
Left = Labour, Lib Dem, Green
Right = Conservative, Reform
It's far more nuanced than that
Quite a career change for the Man U defender 😉
He's put on a bit of timber.
He's put on a bit of timber.
Tories must step aside for Reform and England
Never! They should both be voted out of existence.
Why they've 1 MP 30p lee and he defected .
@@pip1723 I think the word you meant was defective!
Farage has had 37 appearances on BBC's premier political programme QT, including the other day, despite 7 failed attempts to be elected to parliament, the last one beaten by a man in a dolphin suit. Only one pollster put Reform on 19% others are around 13%. They won just 2 council seats and their predecessor parties won just 2 seats ever in parliament which were sitting Tory MP incumbents. He's not normal. He went to private schools, Dulwich college and worked as a commodities broker in the city of London.
"reform give something for the conservatives to believe in" what? fascism?
You can't educate stupidity
People like you have no concept of the word fascism, if you did you would not use it so loosely.
@@TheLuckyLeif1021 I really do and they fit the profile to a T. The only real difference between reform and the british union of fascists is they've replaced anti semitism with islamophobia.
@@oitoitoi1 Oswald Mosley wrote a book, “Europe, A Nation”, arguing strongly for European integration. The Austrian Painter frequently expressed admiration for the martial spirit of Islam.
@@georgesdelatour he wanted integration with a fascist dominated Europe. The only real difference with Farage's brand of fascism and 1930's fascism is he's replaced anti semitism with islamophobia.
"Reform give something for the Conservatives to believe in"
Fascism? Seems the logical next step.
No need to vote for Labour or Tories now. Vote Reform UK.
Go nigel .go nigel ......!
Reform get 20% no problem.
Of course one poll and the margin of error so it is very uncertain. But Farage will use it and his supporters are not exactly experts on statistics, so it will have an effect as people will be more willing to vote Reform as they see that is the direction of change. People like to back a winner, and if they hate Labour they can vote Reform and think they are backing a winner.
And once again Nigel will grift money out of them and loose and then get paid to be a pundit on TV, I can hear him laughing now.
If I can't have a lib dem in my area I'll vote labour, hopefully nigel will finally leave.
please don't give that grifter a penny.
Especially if you are poor.
Vote Tory get Labour and a vote for Labour is a vote for disaster.
I vow to thee my country, I’m voting REFORM! Join the revolt!
So you have changed Clown Shows. Hang on I will clap or you!
so you're voting for fascist traitors then?
Learn to string a sentence together wokeflake.
why would anyone voted for a russian backed fascist traitor?
I didn't think any party could be worse than the cobservatives but the british union of fascists who call themselves the reform company are worse
Seeing as brexiteer tories are voting reform, remainer tories better vote Lib Dem 🔶️
They should join it.
The Tories want to believe in fascism?
A vote for reform will let the conservative in😅😅😅😅😅
Totally deluded
Let's hope Reform eats Sir Kier's lunch.
Reform is today's British Union Party.
There’s as more chance of Farage standing in Dover welcoming refugees than beating Starmer
There's only so many white over 50 angry men thier vote has a cealing of around 15%
Can't wait until reform get 0 seats .
@@DRKrust492 Son of immigrants. Proudly British.This country has lost its mind. Farage has made it ok to be racist again. We're back to the 80s again. Its tragic.
Watch the english making a rip roaring C of it yet again.
Polls schmolls, the only thing we can determine is the Tories are going to lose big, and Labour are going to form the next government.
Amen to that.
Why wait for 2029? If tories and reform joined forces farage could be home secretary as the merged party would win the election.
*WE COULD END UP* with the party getting the 2ng largest number of votes having ZERO seats - which is totally unacceptable...!!!
Even if it is Reform who I h-a-t-e
The 2 party system needs to be abolished 😢, they are not fit to govern😢
Two very unpopular parties, will both struggle for seats.
Like it or loathe it, that's sort of what FPTP is supposed to be doing. It's one tiny virtue is that it makes it very difficult for extremist lunatics to gain power.
If your candidate gets more votes than it's competitors then you win the seat. It's that easy.
Reform wants to change the voting system to Proportional Represention. That is real democracy! You can disagree, but you would be wrong. Labour and Tories do not want PR, why?
Try again tories are yesterdays news great aint it freedom at last
Vote reform or Tory’s if your mentally unstable 👍🏻
So doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is mentally stable?
"People who want to believe in Nigel Fromage."
So (redacted as its to offensive and unfair to those gullible enough to believe him)
Nigel Farage raised 100k for the veterans and 425k for the RNLI that he hasn't made public. Tell me what your leader has done. Says something about the person.
Dear Times Radio, stop going on about a chance for the Conservatives, get behind the country and back Labour
Why?
I love how the Tories and Reform are destroying each other over a tiny slither of fringe voters. Meanwhile, Labour kick back and bask in the giant vacuum left vacant in the middle. Where most of the voters are.
Starmer doesn't want his Jewish wife to be seen in public, for fear of losing the Muslim vote.
Just a matter of time before the Labour vote is split, I give it a year in.