+Chase Meehan I've been trying to find a full non-VHS copy for a long time. I have this on VHS from the original ABC-whatever network broadcast. Would love to have a good digi copy.
+Chase Meehan I've been trying to find a full non-VHS copy for a long time. I have this on VHS from the original ABC-whatever network broadcast. Would love to have a good digi copy.
Rewatched this gem last night. The one great scene missing is where they confront Brian about his marijuana use when he tells them he wants to stop touring.
“As a child, Wilson explained, his father told the story of getting hit with a lead pipe, injuring his ear in the process. Years later, when Wilson was a child, history somehow repeated itself. A boy in his class hit him in the head with a lead pipe.”
this is the only beach boys biopic available on dvd unlike an american family so i like it and this one shows the beach boys from 1961-1985 so i like it the other one ended in 1974, this one seems longer with history to me thats just my opinion
@iThinkFilmsAZ Y'know, I suppose they did already consider them 'oldies' by 1968. Also, the 'cocaine sessions' took place in the 80s, long after all the 'Brian's Back' shite.
During the timeframe the film is trying to portray, I was working three jobs to prepare for my wedding, the only music was going to and from jobs, but still...the songs were easy to sing along to, fun. Having watched "Love & Mercy" (excellent by both actors) three or four times, I was moved to buy all the albums I didn't already own, and all of the Brian Wilson albums as well. I'm hooked.
Awesome!! I really loved how they put in the " Surf Nazis", that followed Brian around, and they showed the cocaine blues bit, nicee. Soo kornyyy, worst beards ever
***** Good call, man!! I never would've looked that deeply into it. This film is kind of low quality, so I doubt they would have thought to put that sophisticated kind of meaning into it, but maybe you're right! :)
if you combine this with an AMERICAN FAMILY and DEAD MANS CURVE you get the story straight [ Dennis said my friend the Wizzard is god and th devil and there is going to be a war between the blacks and the whites
Oh yeah, over on the smileysmile fan forum (seems to be down right now) there's an old post by Ed Roach (close friend of Dennis Wilson's from around 68/69 to the end of his life) where he suggests this version of the 'cocaine sessions' is actually pretty close to the *atmosphere* of the real sessions. He doesn't say anything about the dialogue being accurate mind *wink*
God at the massive STOP GETTING THE BEACH BOYS WRONG moments like the cocaine sessions apparently happening nearly a decade early & just before Brian returning to the band, and the Brian's Back campaign and doing oldies being Carl's idea!
then there's 'notDennis' joshing/mocking 'NotBrian' about their dad's abuse or notBrian being so out of it he's only just realised there might be a connection between his Dad hitting him around the head and him being deaf in one ear (in the real world that claim/rumour was around & being asked about in the music press at least as early as '71)
Brian's supposed autobiography, Wouldn't It Be Nice: My Own Story is heavily ghost-written by Brian's former svengali psychiatrist, the manipulative Dr. Landy. What's right in the book is outright stolen from other Beach Boys books without credit sources. If you want to read a real, good Brian Wilson biography, go pick up Peter Ames Carlin's Catch A Wave: The Rise, Fall and Redemption of the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson. Steer clear of bullshit flicks like this and An American Family.
Also it's has so much severe mood whiplash & cognitive dissonance & over the top melodrama that it makes things that aren't funny and aren't meant to be funny i.e portrayals of real peoples real distress & trauma horribly accidentally hilarious. & not in an laughing at the cheesy dialogue or bad facial hair or taking the piss (while/instead of yelling at the screen) at how 'that never happened', he didn't act/talk like that, and the chronology is all wrong, type of way.
for example the 'Brian freaking out on the plane' - goes from being an scarily accurate portrayal of an extreme panic attack / breakdown to the point where I was uncomfortable watching it & not sure I even wanted to watch the whole scene because it looks exactly how it feels from the inside. to suddenly going so over the top into melodrama I was laughing at it. Same goes for the Murry Wilson abusing his sons scenes in the other highlights video - he become such an over-the-top monster that again it becomes inappropriately funny. Thanks filmmakers, I now feel like the scum of the earth.
An actor is only as good as his/her script; and let's face it - this script is dreadful in places! I can't wait for the Brian Wilson biopic which will hopefully outshine both tv versions!
Having watched the last half hour or so cos like Dennis (yeah I'm obsessed, I'm a masochist, & I wanted to see a) how they squash 10-13 years worth into 30 mins and how they tackled/fucked up events leading back to his death at the beginning- I now hate myself ) somebody so needs to upload the live scene (set to Rock N Roll Music) which goes from being a perfect distillation / conflation of The Beach Boys not at their best live mostly around 'Brian's back' onwards
- Brian being edgy and messy and wandering around (dressed pretty much like actual photos, minus the shit facial hair), the other drummer, a guy who looks exactly like on of the other sidesmen being shown on stage with them, Dennis playing the drums heavily because he's not interested/too loaded & making inappropriate comments to the crowd (looking rough & like a brickie in dungarees again capturing the style / essence of actual photos, again minus the shit fake facial hair) - all based / apparently based on things that actually happened live at various times - even their take on Dennis and Mike getting augmentative onstage leading fighting backstage isn't tackled too badly
('Mike Love' looks dead on, but for his Sunflower era white robe guru look instead of whatever fantasy point around the mid to late 70s this scenes meant to be taking place in.) but then you get the fucking ridiculous hilarity of Dennis getting sacked via Mike telling him "You're out of the band, Buckwheat!" PMSL
and the whole complicated situation of Carl cutting partying/personal/financial ties with Dennis & selling Brother studios out from under him as part of straightening himself out, & trying to force Dennis to do the same is reduced to 'him' agreeing with 'dennis' being sacked & crying in a corridor about how he can't support him any longer while looking inexplicably like Manson.
Arrrgh at how shit this tv movie is, it doesn't know if it wants to be a goofy comedy inspired by The Beach Boys with some brilliant/hilarious in-jokes for fans, a more serious comedy drama or full on melodrama - goes from seeming/feeling like truth or glimpses of truth/possible truth even if things didn't happen exactly the way we're being shown to totally fucking up the chronology/details/the way people are talking to each other & relationships between them.
I think this movie's pretty good. The Manson character is a bit over the top. Too bad Charlie didn't get the chair or the gas. That's a waste of tax dollars feeding his sorry ass every day. Time Charlie takes the next form, man. You know, like Charlie always said, when you kill someone, you free them. Time to set Charlie free. Helter Skelter Instant Karma. What goes around, comes around. Charlie kills and gets killed.
Think you're misinformed. Charlie never killed anybody nor did he ever mention a race war. That would be testimony from Paul Watkins and two Hells Angels who testified to get their own criminal charges dropped.
what a piece of shit film that was. yet, charlie manson saved it from becoming an absolute disaster. i love the beach boys but this film and the other tv bio-pic that john stamos produced or whatever sucked ass too.
HAHA HAHA, Brian had nothing then to build for himself, he trusted people the way he wanted to be trusted, and be good for being good in itself, to be a good, and, likable, loveable person. His utterly for shit, deplorable dad told him that he was total shit unless he was a man what a man was, standing up for himself. Trying for what he thought what he thought was reverse psychology, screwed it up for Brian so bad as far as being so sarcastic anyway for no one in hell to take him seriously for what he was saying, Brian literally believed what Murry told him with no one to rely upon, except for Dennis' sarcastic feedback to the rescue. Somewhat, Murry had respect for Dennis, but shot himself in the ass, and called him a punk for giving him a taste of his own medicine.
The people who moderate the Smiley Smile forum are utter fuckwits and I would take them and their best pal Rocky Pamplin on in a fight any day. By the way, I carry knives.
The Charles Manson impersonation is hilarious!! 😅😅😅
It is pretty good!! Maybe the best LOL!! Thimbs up!
"do i look like i'm going to hurt you brother?" .........goddamn i am dying......lmao
I wish this whole thing was available to watch. Yes, it's a train-wreck, but it's a glorious train-wreck.
You can watch it free online. Just search for it on Google.
Nice. Thanks, Chase!
No problem. I also have the full movie downloaded on my computer. Might be able to get it to you somehow if that doesn't work.
+Chase Meehan I've been trying to find a full non-VHS copy for a long time. I have this on VHS from the original ABC-whatever network broadcast. Would love to have a good digi copy.
+Chase Meehan I've been trying to find a full non-VHS copy for a long time. I have this on VHS from the original ABC-whatever network broadcast. Would love to have a good digi copy.
2:03 oh yes, who can forget the moment when jimi hendrix declared surf music dead
When a guy in a weird outfit wrecks the stage and sets a guitar on fire, you know it's over
Hendrix rocks!🤟🤟🤟
Yeah that was the highlight of his Monterey Set!
It's a fact that the wigs used in this movie were the rejects from Monty Python's Life of Brian.
Brian DID have a beard briefly in 1967, actually. But he sure as shit didn't look like fat Jim Morrison, like he does here in that Hendrix scene.
I got the burgers, got the fries, got the coke...
Rewatched this gem last night. The one great scene missing is where they confront Brian about his marijuana use when he tells them he wants to stop touring.
Besides Brian having a beard in 1967, I liked this movie much better than the other one.
I'm a new BB fan and I've heard about it but this is the first time I watch it. Now I need to see the full movie! It's hilariously bad!!
4:42 Why does it cut to a scene of Charles manson jogging? lol
5:34 - "I got these CHEEEEESE burgers, man!"
I got the burgers...I got the fries...I got the coke.
TURN THE PLANE AROUND!!
Damn! I wanna hang w/ Dennis!!
Is that Frankenstein monster supposed to be Mike Love?
Frank love isn't frankenstien?
His head looks like Frankenstein's Monster anyway
OK, more like 0:44. SURE, that's EXACTLY how "Fun, Fun, Fun" was written.
“As a child, Wilson explained, his father told the story of getting hit with a lead pipe, injuring his ear in the process. Years later, when Wilson was a child, history somehow repeated itself. A boy in his class hit him in the head with a lead pipe.”
Movies like this are the reason why "Walk Hard" was made. 0:52 for example. Painful...
"Don't you dare write a song!"
this is the only beach boys biopic available on dvd unlike an american family so i like it and this one shows the beach boys from 1961-1985 so i like it the other one ended in 1974, this one seems longer with history to me thats just my opinion
@DarlingDown All I know is that it's not a real Dennis Wilson song.
@iThinkFilmsAZ Y'know, I suppose they did already consider them 'oldies' by 1968. Also, the 'cocaine sessions' took place in the 80s, long after all the 'Brian's Back' shite.
3:19 do i look like i'm gonna hurt you brother ?
oh my god i laughed so goddamn hard its not even funny.
Isn't this the movie that claimed Mike Love wrote "Good Vibrations"?
cool vid
3:01 holy moly the actor who playing Charlie Mason is more scary than the real one 😳😳😳😳
Well, Mike did write the lyrics...That's something he's not actually wrong about.
Sure doesn't take much to slip away from Landy in this, eh? Would have made Brian's real life easier if that actually worked in real life.
@SecretTimeWarp Well he did contribute, but the film that goes out of it's way to highlight this fact is An American Family. Haven't seen it in full.
During the timeframe the film is trying to portray, I was working three jobs to prepare for my wedding, the only music was going to and from jobs, but still...the songs were easy to sing along to, fun.
Having watched "Love & Mercy" (excellent by both actors) three or four times, I was moved to buy all the albums I didn't already own, and all of the Brian Wilson albums as well. I'm hooked.
Awesome!! I really loved how they put in the " Surf Nazis", that followed Brian around, and they showed the cocaine blues bit, nicee. Soo kornyyy, worst beards ever
lol the scene at 1:16 this must be the part where Brian freaked out and thus began his drugged out bed ridden days.
The dude playing Dennis, is that the actor who plays Captain Christopher Pike in the new Star Trek movies??
Nice. He also wrote and sang the "two foot of butt crack" song you hear at the beginning of the restaurant scene in Dumb & Dumber.
***** Good call, man!! I never would've looked that deeply into it. This film is kind of low quality, so I doubt they would have thought to put that sophisticated kind of meaning into it, but maybe you're right! :)
dab les It's in Dumb & Dumber at the beginning of the restaurant scene. Listen for it the next time you watch it! :)
if you combine this with an AMERICAN FAMILY and DEAD MANS CURVE you get the story straight [ Dennis said my friend the Wizzard is god and th devil and there is going to be a war between the blacks and the whites
Years? Maybe if you put in the time that it comes on (the minutes), someone would easily tell you.
Charlie Manson th best
5:00 "Well if it isn't Jack lallanne "
Bad wig showcase.
Oh yeah, over on the smileysmile fan forum (seems to be down right now) there's an old post by Ed Roach (close friend of Dennis Wilson's from around 68/69 to the end of his life) where he suggests this version of the 'cocaine sessions' is actually pretty close to the *atmosphere* of the real sessions. He doesn't say anything about the dialogue being accurate mind *wink*
God at the massive STOP GETTING THE BEACH BOYS WRONG moments like the cocaine sessions apparently happening nearly a decade early & just before Brian returning to the band, and the Brian's Back campaign and doing oldies being Carl's idea!
then there's 'notDennis' joshing/mocking 'NotBrian' about their dad's abuse or notBrian being so out of it he's only just realised there might be a connection between his Dad hitting him around the head and him being deaf in one ear (in the real world that claim/rumour was around & being asked about in the music press at least as early as '71)
Brian's supposed autobiography, Wouldn't It Be Nice: My Own Story is heavily ghost-written by Brian's former svengali psychiatrist, the manipulative Dr. Landy. What's right in the book is outright stolen from other Beach Boys books without credit sources. If you want to read a real, good Brian Wilson biography, go pick up Peter Ames Carlin's Catch A Wave: The Rise, Fall and Redemption of the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson.
Steer clear of bullshit flicks like this and An American Family.
Also it's has so much severe mood whiplash & cognitive dissonance & over the top melodrama that it makes things that aren't funny and aren't meant to be funny i.e portrayals of real peoples real distress & trauma horribly accidentally hilarious. & not in an laughing at the cheesy dialogue or bad facial hair or taking the piss (while/instead of yelling at the screen) at how 'that never happened', he didn't act/talk like that, and the chronology is all wrong, type of way.
for example the 'Brian freaking out on the plane' - goes from being an scarily accurate portrayal of an extreme panic attack / breakdown to the point where I was uncomfortable watching it & not sure I even wanted to watch the whole scene because it looks exactly how it feels from the inside. to suddenly going so over the top into melodrama I was laughing at it. Same goes for the Murry Wilson abusing his sons scenes in the other highlights video - he become such an over-the-top monster that again it becomes inappropriately funny. Thanks filmmakers, I now feel like the scum of the earth.
yes it was upsetting for all when Brian had a nervous breakdown on the plane
it was funny when Dennis said well if it isn't jack lalanne
KATE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK
An actor is only as good as his/her script; and let's face it - this script is dreadful in places! I can't wait for the Brian Wilson biopic which will hopefully outshine both tv versions!
Bruce Greenwood is the only actor I recognised in this film, the rest I haven't even a clue who they are.
1:17 that is the gay love child of chris farley and david spade. i refuse to accept any other explanation.
Having watched the last half hour or so cos like Dennis (yeah I'm obsessed, I'm a masochist, & I wanted to see a) how they squash 10-13 years worth into 30 mins and how they tackled/fucked up events leading back to his death at the beginning- I now hate myself ) somebody so needs to upload the live scene (set to Rock N Roll Music) which goes from being a perfect distillation / conflation of The Beach Boys not at their best live mostly around 'Brian's back' onwards
- Brian being edgy and messy and wandering around (dressed pretty much like actual photos, minus the shit facial hair), the other drummer, a guy who looks exactly like on of the other sidesmen being shown on stage with them, Dennis playing the drums heavily because he's not interested/too loaded & making inappropriate comments to the crowd (looking rough & like a brickie in dungarees again capturing the style / essence of actual photos, again minus the shit fake facial hair) - all based / apparently based on things that actually happened live at various times - even their take on Dennis and Mike getting augmentative onstage leading fighting backstage isn't tackled too badly
('Mike Love' looks dead on, but for his Sunflower era white robe guru look instead of whatever fantasy point around the mid to late 70s this scenes meant to be taking place in.) but then you get the fucking ridiculous hilarity of Dennis getting sacked via Mike telling him "You're out of the band, Buckwheat!" PMSL
and the whole complicated situation of Carl cutting partying/personal/financial ties with Dennis & selling Brother studios out from under him as part of straightening himself out, & trying to force Dennis to do the same is reduced to 'him' agreeing with 'dennis' being sacked & crying in a corridor about how he can't support him any longer while looking inexplicably like Manson.
@jwild611 Well-observed
See but In real life Brian has always been the tallest not mike. Mike was the second tallest, only 1 or 2 inches shorter than Brian
Lol. Bruce Greenwood.
Those are the oldest looking teenagers I've seen!
I love chubby Mike Love!
Why does mike look like he’s 50 years old and 20 pounds overweight in this movie?
I like the actor who plays Dennis in this lame-o TV movie much better as the year 2000 Dr. Kimble "The fugitive"
@retread01 I LOL'd
That WAS Hendrix......
@M3town3 There is one. It's crap.
Loved the lousy Hendrix imitation @ 1:48.
Like Dennis lured Brian Wilson into doing coke that way in this movie. He surely wasn't that evil?
Dennis Wilson is Singing a song in the beginning when he is coming home late
name
I actually feel sorry now for Charles Manson....that's how shitty this movie is.
Based on this movie : Charles Manson = Aziz Ansari
Arrrgh at how shit this tv movie is, it doesn't know if it wants to be a goofy comedy inspired by The Beach Boys with some brilliant/hilarious in-jokes for fans, a more serious comedy drama or full on melodrama - goes from seeming/feeling like truth or glimpses of truth/possible truth even if things didn't happen exactly the way we're being shown to totally fucking up the chronology/details/the way people are talking to each other & relationships between them.
Tip: If you meet Charles Mansion, don't follow him.
I think this movie's pretty good. The Manson character is a bit over the top. Too bad Charlie didn't get the chair or the gas. That's a waste of tax dollars feeding his sorry ass every day. Time Charlie takes the next form, man. You know, like Charlie always said, when you kill someone, you free them. Time to set Charlie free. Helter Skelter Instant Karma. What goes around, comes around. Charlie kills and gets killed.
Think you're misinformed. Charlie never killed anybody nor did he ever mention a race war. That would be testimony from Paul Watkins and two Hells Angels who testified to get their own criminal charges dropped.
charlie would never say those words in that order , this is so lame
what a piece of shit film that was. yet, charlie manson saved it from becoming an absolute disaster. i love the beach boys but this film and the other tv bio-pic that john stamos produced or whatever sucked ass too.
brian seemed so child like smh.
HAHA HAHA, Brian had nothing then to build for himself, he trusted people the way he wanted to be trusted, and be good for being good in itself, to be a good, and, likable, loveable person. His utterly for shit, deplorable dad told him that he was total shit unless he was a man what a man was, standing up for himself. Trying for what he thought what he thought was reverse psychology, screwed it up for Brian so bad as far as being so sarcastic anyway for no one in hell to take him seriously for what he was saying, Brian literally believed what Murry told him with no one to rely upon, except for Dennis' sarcastic feedback to the rescue.
Somewhat, Murry had respect for Dennis, but shot himself in the ass, and called him a punk for giving him a taste of his own medicine.
The people who moderate the Smiley Smile forum are utter fuckwits and I would take them and their best pal Rocky Pamplin on in a fight any day. By the way, I carry knives.
I'll help you...Rocky needs a good old fashioned ass whipping.
True. Shit for brains.
Overact much?