@@maxpuppy96 I run 10k a month in a 1991 Freightliner FLA, with a 12.7 series 60 that's now just broken in on it's 3rd inframe. Best engine I've ever driven.
I could think of a few more worth a mention, Detroit 71 & 92 series, Cummins 855ci & 903, Caterpillar 3406 & 3408 just to name a few, these motors have been around for ever and more than proved themselves, legends all of them.
How about the Detroit 6-71? It basically won the war for us, as did the other two stroke diesels from GM, such as the Electro-Motive Division 567, 645, and 710.
the 645 and 710 are just the modern versions of the 567. the 6-71 and every detroit 2-stroke (53, 71, 92, 110, 149) were just derivative works of the big 567 for different applications & markets.
My Grandpa was a Diesel mechanic since 1947 He had a saying Detroits go in a boat Cats have a blade, International goes in a tractor and Cummins is a truck motor bar none.
@@bobclarke2705 dont know quite what your problem is pal, but i have earned everything i ve got including the experience, and i know my trucks and my engines,you don,t have to like it, but just show a little regard for other peoples views without insulting them, particularly your elders !!!!!
Problem is with this video is you've left the Volvo series engines out. Probably one of the very best, most fuel efficient engines out there. The 12 liter is virtually bullet proof and I've seen many that have done 1.5million miles before rebuild and that's not because they needed it.
Definitely represents ones opinion. I would replace some of the engines chosen with CAT's 3406B, 3406E & C-15 (not the C15 primarily because of emissions), Cummins 855 & N14 & Mack's ETAZ 673 with the Robert Bosch injection system & the E-6 2V & 4V. Some of the Deutz air cooled engines are pretty good. No mention of Deere's engines here either. Theres a lot of others to pick from as well. So the title Mayne should have had IMYO added to it. Nice video though, Thanks to the poster!!!
I agree with everything you are adding to the discussion but have a question. As an engine builder I always scratch my head as to why someone would list a B 3406 but not a C. The only ever so slightly better part of a b that was that the B was ease of fuel pump setting. All Mains- journals gears are much better on a C. So I guess the question remains as to what the perceived betterment is on the Bs? And to add one more to your list of great engines I've worked on K19 Cummins with 30,000hours.
10 of the greatest, eh? Thats a subjective term...... Not a peep about EMD's or what I would consider the greatest diesel of them all, the Series 71 Detroit Diesel; It made its first appearance in 1937 and was produced through the 90's and theres still a lot out here. They were available as inlines 1, 2, 3, 4, & 6 and as V blocks: V6, V8, V12, V16 ,and V24 and a lot of parts were common to all models (3 cylinder and up). There were countless applications for these engines, the only things I think that never had a Detroit powering it were airplanes, but I may be wrong on that, lol.
Worked in aircraft factory and we had a 4 cylimder Detroit diesel running a couple of lathes leaked oil like crazy but you keep oil in it and it would run like your mom's sewing machine. Never failed to perform.
C12 is NOT one of the best Caterpillar engines. But the 3406B mechanical is just about the most reliable engine ever made. So much so Caterpillar still makes the 3406C mechanical for third world countries that do not want electronics.
I commented on this subject a few weeks ago and I indicated that I favoured the Gardner, and I absolutely do, however I have also had many other motors and two of the better ones were the 671 g.m, and the slower revving cat 3406, however I found this one to be very thirsty , I've also had a few so called top names that I would not put in my Billy cart , I'll leave those names out
I used to have a 3408 cat in a 359 long nose Pete. Shed flat run down the road but you needed a fuel truck to follow you down the highway. She sure liked drinking the fuel.
One mans opinion. MY opinion is that any list of great diesel engines that does not include the "Screaming Jimmy" two stroke General Motors line of diesels is simply not a complete list.
Appears like nobody is familiar with MWM and Mercedes diesel motors. Both have been excellent motors for many years. I became familiar with them in Brazil. MWM for agriculture, maritime, buses, trucks, and pickups. Mercedes for agriculture, maritime, buses, and trucks.
I think this represents the only 10 engines he could get video of. Not even close to the best 10. Cummins big cams, Mack, Detroit 60 series, John Deere 400 series, Detroit 2 strokes, Duramax shouldn't be on any list other then best boat anchors!
I personally love my old Cummins N-14, much easier and cheaper than the ISX, but the ISX has proven to be a million mile engine in five of our trucks, still rather the N series, simple engine
the Kubota 3 cylinder Diesel found on smaller stuff but trucks Big Cam Cummins are my favorite diesels along with the C15 Cat and tractors the 426 Cubic inch Allis Chalmers 670t found on tractors and the 5.9 Cummins
The 1HZ, sold all over the world and still sold in third world countries after more than forty years. Million miles are common if looked after. But it was never sold in America so it doesn't actually exist
"Charles" A major oversight for sure. Time between overhaul would be done with a calendar, when they finally needed repair, it was often just the cylinder affected, marine or train use they didn't get to coast down any hills. Loaded all the time.
VW, really? Never! Detroit Diesel 53, 71 and 92 were produced in much more quantities and provide long economical service life. EPA killed all 2 stroke land based engines or they would still be with us today. The 6-71 production run was the longest of a single engine type in history.
Have to disagree with that first one the Cummins b Series . Throw away engine, no wet liners. Oh yeah Cummins finally came out with a sleeve and a lot of money for tooling to install sleeve. Sent many of those to that big melting pot in the sky on the back of a wrecker. Boat anchor if I ever seen one, oh yeah 35+ diesel mech so I’ve seen a lot of pos.
Best ever made car diesel engine is in mercedes E320cdi (w210 and w211). In line 6 cilinder with over 200HP, 500 Nm torque and 6-7 liters consumption. Excelent sound and durability. Easy for chip engine.
how about the Detroit, Rootes, and Foden two strokes , and all things Gardener, not to mention AEC and Leyland. And many other great and interesting engines ? The title says it all, 10 of the best , leaves out all the rest of the good stuff. Pity.🤨
It's an American list that doesn't even have the best American engines let alone the world's best! For amazing torque output look to the Swedish with their 16 litre diesels from Scania and Volvo, way superior to modern US truck engines. For mechanical perfection look to the old Gardner diesels from the UK, many still in use in maritime environment all over the globe that are many decades old. And from America, iconic Cummins NTC and NTE 14 litre engines, Cat 3406, Detroit 71 and 92. Could go on. Sorry but should be titled 'some engines I think are quite good.'
You forget the most important part of any engine and that is application, engine is almost always best in what it was engineered for and not always best transplanted in your hot rod truck as we love the 8.3 Cummins but it's to heavy for a one ton truck and that wrecks the engine for me, thousand pounds heavier than the B series that's already heavy in my book
Guys, the world is a bit bigger than just the USA. Many people are sure you have learned how to build decent diesel engines, but on The World Stage there are many other manufacturers that make great diesels too that you have no experience of which makes this a biased Top Ten which would be better entitled THE USA TOP TEN.
My 2cents: no such thing as a 2 cycle or 4 cycle engine. They all operate on 1 cycle. Proper terminology: 2 stroke or 4 stroke engine. Detroit 2 strokes were used in WWII landing craft destined for one way trip. My mechanic whined they found out they could actually survive the round trip. So we had them for some 50 years.
Swapping Edsel Diesels single cylinder motor into one of my 2011 ram mega cabs, I’m getting sick of compound turbos and blowing up parts since they are around 1000hp - 1600tq each need something more reliable from the old school 🙃 Each of the engines sounded amazing.
Where are the Deutz 912, DAF, Perkins, Gardner, Scania and many more?? You just show some usa car-engines, which are , maybe, intresting there. But here we do not like this old-fashioned usa cast-iron, whit a small exception for the Detroits, special the 71 series.
Best Diesel engines, Mack E-6 350 , Cummins 400 Big Cam,Cummins N 14 , Caterpillar 3406- 425,Detroit Series 60 12.7 and 14L
All good engines
@@maxpuppy96 I run 10k a month in a 1991 Freightliner FLA, with a 12.7 series 60 that's now just broken in on it's 3rd inframe. Best engine I've ever driven.
@nathan clare oh yes,true but that's out of the league
Remember the old k model Cummins . They were beasts
agreed
I could think of a few more worth a mention, Detroit 71 & 92 series, Cummins 855ci & 903, Caterpillar 3406 & 3408 just to name a few, these motors have been around for ever and more than proved themselves, legends all of them.
Scania DS14, should be number one on this list
Amen to that
Of course and ds11 second.
The Mack is a Scania engine
agreed 💯
I’m learning about the DS16 now, nice engine
How about the Detroit 6-71? It basically won the war for us, as did the other two stroke diesels from GM, such as the Electro-Motive Division 567, 645, and 710.
I was disappointed to not see the detroit 71 series in there as well.
easy boys opinions are like a-holes everybody has one
@@KCDustRemover how about a cat 3406A or a 1693. These youngsters dont know anything about great diesels. That kinda shows in the selection here
the 645 and 710 are just the modern versions of the 567. the 6-71 and every detroit 2-stroke (53, 71, 92, 110, 149) were just derivative works of the big 567 for different applications & markets.
I loved the 6-71, wait I STILL love the 6-71
My Grandpa was a Diesel mechanic since 1947 He had a saying Detroits go in a boat Cats have a blade, International goes in a tractor and Cummins is a truck motor bar none.
Top 10 has to include a Gardner engine. World's best by far.
This video does not represent the best 10 diesel engines ever made!
and you do of course !!!!! theres always a knowall who knows nothing !!!!!
@@grumpystruckshop3807 what an arrogant fucking moron you are.
@@bobclarke2705 and you are? Amen,
@@grumpystruckshop3807 yeh i know, pity you dont !!
@@bobclarke2705 dont know quite what your problem is pal, but i have earned everything i ve got including the experience, and i know my trucks and my engines,you don,t have to like it, but just show a little regard for other peoples views without insulting them, particularly your elders !!!!!
Problem is with this video is you've left the Volvo series engines out. Probably one of the very best, most fuel efficient engines out there. The 12 liter is virtually bullet proof and I've seen many that have done 1.5million miles before rebuild and that's not because they needed it.
A random list of diesel engines.... nothing more.
They have been proven. Do you see the engine GM put in Cadillac in the 80's on the list? No? I wonder why.
@@robertswift8708 There are many other great and more relevant diesel engines that are not mentioned here. Did i really need to clarify my comment???
KT 1150 Cummins is the one and only beast of Diesel engines along with the 6bt series cummins
There is nothing like the KT 1150. NOTHING.
Definitely represents ones opinion. I would replace some of the engines chosen with CAT's 3406B, 3406E & C-15 (not the C15 primarily because of emissions), Cummins 855 & N14 & Mack's ETAZ 673 with the Robert Bosch injection system & the E-6 2V & 4V. Some of the Deutz air cooled engines are pretty good. No mention of Deere's engines here either. Theres a lot of others to pick from as well. So the title Mayne should have had IMYO added to it. Nice video though, Thanks to the poster!!!
I would include Perkins diesels also, absolutely bullet proof, 510 Perkins were tough.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Well done,good choice!👍👍👍👍
I have to agree the old E6 Mack's where bomb proof.
I agree with everything you are adding to the discussion but have a question. As an engine builder I always scratch my head as to why someone would list a B 3406 but not a C. The only ever so slightly better part of a b that was that the B was ease of fuel pump setting. All Mains- journals gears are much better on a C. So I guess the question remains as to what the perceived betterment is on the Bs? And to add one more to your list of great engines I've worked on K19 Cummins with 30,000hours.
I can' believe they left off the Navistar 6.4L!
i think the most significant diesel engine ever created was the emd 567. that engine changed the place of diesels in the world.
KTA 600? Not exactly popular but when I think of power it always comes to mind😎
10 of the greatest, eh? Thats a subjective term...... Not a peep about EMD's or what I would consider the greatest diesel of them all, the Series 71 Detroit Diesel; It made its first appearance in 1937 and was produced through the 90's and theres still a lot out here. They were available as inlines 1, 2, 3, 4, & 6 and as V blocks: V6, V8, V12, V16 ,and V24 and a lot of parts were common to all models (3 cylinder and up). There were countless applications for these engines, the only things I think that never had a Detroit powering it were airplanes, but I may be wrong on that, lol.
Yup they also missed 1693 cat and the 3406 cat. Not top 10 without them
@@holmes1956O Yeah, the list is woefully inadequate
Worked in aircraft factory and we had a 4 cylimder Detroit diesel running a couple of lathes leaked oil like crazy but you keep oil in it and it would run like your mom's sewing machine. Never failed to perform.
Perkins 4.236; Cummins Big Cam; Deutz 912; Skoda 69; One of many Detroit; The best: Komatsu 105!!!
For marine engines up to 250 HP nothing could hold a candle to the Gardner, for reliability and economy
Forgot Detroit 71 and /or 92 series
A list like the without the Cummins 855?! C’mon man!
Forgot the Scania V8 🤦♂️
C12 is NOT one of the best Caterpillar engines. But the 3406B mechanical is just about the most reliable engine ever made. So much so Caterpillar still makes the 3406C mechanical for third world countries that do not want electronics.
GET THAT POS C12 IN THE JUNK YARD. other than that pretty good list
Muy interesante..pero te faltaron algún Perkins 6-305/354, John Deere 6068/6081.. y Scania DSC-11..
You forgot the best of them all. Scania v8
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I commented on this subject a few weeks ago and I indicated that I favoured the Gardner, and I absolutely do, however I have also had many other motors and two of the better ones were the 671 g.m, and the slower revving cat 3406, however I found this one to be very thirsty , I've also had a few so called top names that I would not put in my Billy cart , I'll leave those names out
I used to have a 3408 cat in a 359 long nose Pete. Shed flat run down the road but you needed a fuel truck to follow you down the highway. She sure liked drinking the fuel.
One mans opinion. MY opinion is that any list of great diesel engines that does not include the "Screaming Jimmy" two stroke General Motors line of diesels is simply not a complete list.
Appears like nobody is familiar with MWM and Mercedes diesel motors. Both have been excellent motors for many years. I became familiar with them in Brazil. MWM for agriculture, maritime, buses, trucks, and pickups. Mercedes for agriculture, maritime, buses, and trucks.
I think this represents the only 10 engines he could get video of. Not even close to the best 10. Cummins big cams, Mack, Detroit 60 series, John Deere 400 series, Detroit 2 strokes, Duramax shouldn't be on any list other then best boat anchors!
The 425 Caterpillar. ...
I personally love my old Cummins N-14, much easier and cheaper than the ISX, but the ISX has proven to be a million mile engine in five of our trucks, still rather the N series, simple engine
that last old engine was so rhythmic i loved it
the Kubota 3 cylinder Diesel found on smaller stuff but trucks Big Cam Cummins are my favorite diesels along with the C15 Cat and tractors the 426 Cubic inch Allis Chalmers 670t found on tractors and the 5.9 Cummins
Thought the old Perkins would’ve made it in there the were so many in use all over the world
The best one didnt even make the list , 12 valve cummins for dodge pick-up trucks .
That was the first one although maybe not the pickup configuration (I didnt look that close) it was the B 5.9.
That was the first engine on the list ........... the B series Cummins is the 5.9 12V Cummins ........ it also includes the 3.9 4BT
Cummins EGR twin cam 550 horse power 260 kpa boost on turbo, out done every truck Shepparton east to Sydney market
Rudolph Diesel's engine is a 4 stroke engine-you can plainly see the intake and exhaust valves working at 8:00
Lost me when the dmax was listed. Far from good
Le dernier moteur présenté est un 4 temps, vu que les deux soupapes ne s'ouvrent pas en même temps.
C12 with 705 hp ?
Mmm, I'm an American brands fan, but Toyota B and HZ are really great engines, slow engines, but durability is 👌👌👌
The 1HZ, sold all over the world and still sold in third world countries after more than forty years.
Million miles are common if looked after.
But it was never sold in America so it doesn't actually exist
You forgot the top diesel engine of all time: EMD 16-645E3. Two cycle; 45 degree V-16; turbocharged.
"Charles" A major oversight for sure. Time between overhaul would be done with a calendar, when they finally needed repair, it was often just the cylinder affected, marine or train use they didn't get to coast down any hills. Loaded all the time.
I love my 7.3, but one of the top 10 engines ever? Nope, ain't buying it.
No Perkins ad3 152? Only diesel engine that will start in sub-zero temps without assistance.
I used some Perkins diesel in MF tractors. Started on second flip over.
VW, really? Never!
Detroit Diesel 53, 71 and 92 were produced in much more quantities and provide long economical service life. EPA killed all 2 stroke land based engines or they would still be with us today. The 6-71 production run was the longest of a single engine type in history.
No cummins? You've lost your mind.
Two motors 471 D. and 3406 Cat. were very good us.
Im sorry, N_14 cummins is a dollar bill 😖🤬
DT466 ? Why not a Cummins L 10 to go with it and the Duramax might as well put an egg sucking 3208 cat with them
Cummins is my fav and right behind is Detroit 8V71 and catipilar 3208, also the 6.6 duramax is an Isuzu engine not a GM deisel
3208 not the greatest...
Do some research. Duramax is a joint venture with Isuzu and GM.they are all built in the USA. Isuzu has been building diesel engines for a long time.
@@eliminator1978 yeah I meant 3208
@@bmdbigfeet1031 it’s literally designed by izuzu
@@md_randoms2429 was a 60 /40 split between the two.
detroit 60 series best diesel engine on a semi. followed by a 6nz CAT.
I think there was only 1 good engine code duramax, also would have liked to have seen the 3406/C15 on the list!
Have to disagree with that first one the Cummins b Series . Throw away engine, no wet liners. Oh yeah Cummins finally came out with a sleeve and a lot of money for tooling to install sleeve. Sent many of those to that big melting pot in the sky on the back of a wrecker. Boat anchor if I ever seen one, oh yeah 35+ diesel mech so I’ve seen a lot of pos.
Best ever made car diesel engine is in mercedes E320cdi (w210 and w211). In line 6 cilinder with over 200HP, 500 Nm torque and 6-7 liters consumption. Excelent sound and durability. Easy for chip engine.
The last one was the best.
Gardener should be up there amongst top 3
That 7.3 I think is a good engine it can hold up to 720 horse on the bottom end
7.3 is a beast and versatile engine
My favorite engines are 12value and 24value Cummins, n14,8v71 and 12v71 Detroit, then my two personally favorites are the 3408cat and c15 cat
No Gardiner Diesels? In fact no English Diesels at all.
An I noticed it an am not British!
how about the Detroit, Rootes, and Foden two strokes , and all things Gardener, not to mention AEC and Leyland. And many other great and interesting engines ?
The title says it all, 10 of the best , leaves out all the rest of the good stuff. Pity.🤨
That cat engine sounds exactly like my dads old skidder. Music to me ears 👂
More of a random list of cool engines.
GM detroit diesel two stroke. Nothing more neds to say. And the sound is eargasm..
So the basis you made this video is that you had footage of these motors. 7.3 IH. Lmaooooo
7.3 is my favorite then cat. But these are all great engines
Ford Called the 7.3 Power Stroke Navistar called it the T444E
No.1 Scania V8
Where was the Cat C-15,C-16,C-18 and let's not forget the Cat 3208 V-8. You could do a multiple video series just on the Cat Engines them selves.
Detroit 671?? one of the greatest motors EVER....
Gardner and Deutz (air cooled). Last a lifetime! Not to speak of the tatra air cooled V12
How did you forget the Mercedes OM617??
Cummins NTC?, fabulous engines
WHAT NO Lister engine I`m in shock lol
Bore & Stroke: 3x8 FEET 😳😳
C15 cat and let's not forget deutz
Edit: Should have added - 'In the USA' at end of title. Most of these engines are unknown anywhere else..
I was not aware Volkswagen made a V10 diesel. It must have stayed in Europe.
The VW Touareg SUV had a v10 TDI option, and you can still find some for sale in the usa
VW v10 TDI ten a penny in Europe
It's an American list that doesn't even have the best American engines let alone the world's best! For amazing torque output look to the Swedish with their 16 litre diesels from Scania and Volvo, way superior to modern US truck engines. For mechanical perfection look to the old Gardner diesels from the UK, many still in use in maritime environment all over the globe that are many decades old. And from America, iconic Cummins NTC and NTE 14 litre engines, Cat 3406, Detroit 71 and 92. Could go on. Sorry but should be titled 'some engines I think are quite good.'
3406 B work of art
Scania DSC 14, DC 16
Caterpillar all the way
GOOD DAY FIRST. 0 KM IN AMERICA. 13 LITER. 6 CYLINDER.400-450 HP. ONLY HOW MUCH IS THE TIR ENGINE PRICE? THANKS.
I never strictly cared for that 466 we had
You forgot the iron lung 220 Cummins!
good engine for its time but top 10?? lol
You forget the most important part of any engine and that is application, engine is almost always best in what it was engineered for and not always best transplanted in your hot rod truck as we love the 8.3 Cummins but it's to heavy for a one ton truck and that wrecks the engine for me, thousand pounds heavier than the B series that's already heavy in my book
Guys, the world is a bit bigger than just the USA. Many people are sure you have learned how to build decent diesel engines, but on The World Stage there are many other manufacturers that make great diesels too that you have no experience of which makes this a biased Top Ten which would be better entitled THE USA TOP TEN.
Need to add how much these smaller engines weights for us transplant guys
ISUZU and Fuso engines should be on the list. guess the whole world lives in USA.
3406 cat build right I been driving one all summer in w 9 700 hundred horse laugh at hills 110 thousand
Good job keep it up 😀
yeah man professional stuff
Iveco turbostar 190 48
Gostei,muito bom
Your choice is only a matter of opinion,youve forgotten mack E9,volks alh and a number of others.
My 2cents: no such thing as a 2 cycle or 4 cycle engine. They all operate on 1 cycle. Proper terminology: 2 stroke or 4 stroke engine. Detroit 2 strokes were used in WWII landing craft destined for one way trip. My mechanic whined they found out they could actually survive the round trip. So we had them for some 50 years.
nice work keep it commin bro (y)
1693 solid head (425) cat 🐈
6:36 1200 cubic inch equals 19.66 liter, not 60....
Swapping Edsel Diesels single cylinder motor into one of my 2011 ram mega cabs, I’m getting sick of compound turbos and blowing up parts since they are around 1000hp - 1600tq each need something more reliable from the old school 🙃
Each of the engines sounded amazing.
You forgot the Best 2 3406 CAT B model and C model way better than the Detroit 60
better power, yes. higher parts cost and lower fuel mileage, yes again.
@@oregonfordguy9812 but still an excellent engine!
Duramax was junk it overheated and they had no fix
Where are the Deutz 912, DAF, Perkins, Gardner, Scania and many more?? You just show some usa car-engines, which are , maybe, intresting there. But here we do not like this old-fashioned usa cast-iron, whit a small exception for the Detroits, special the 71 series.
4:28 that's 65 liter not 6.5 liter....
seems like you triggered quite a conversation