Nice video! It’s a great concept and packaging in a nice professional bundle. However, I’m very particular about my mouse and the way it handles. I tried out this mouse and ultimately had to return it because the middle mouse button was too much of a firm press for my liking. Constant double clicking the middle mouse for AutoCAD zoom extents was a deal breaker for me. Been sticking with the same Dell wired mouse model for years. haha
7200 DPI. 7200. What a relief that this mouse will detect hand movement of only a few microns! I absolutely need this level of precision, given my superhuman dexterity.
I soon get my "3D Connexion CadMouse Compact" Logitech G600 also got 3 main buttons as well, i have not tried that one yet. There is quite allot people talking to Logitech about doing an updated wireless G600 but we never know if they will. I found some Japanese made "ELECOM Wired 3D CAD Mouse" But that's about it i think
@@JosephKim why? no middle button,. But i read somewhere the software is good and that side weel. But people have complained about it not being anatomic. I guess claw grip is not possible. its probably good fore some people, but i,m after 3 buttons. Last time i bought a logitech mouse it was 5 of these: "Logitech model M-S35" i moded my mouse i but mouse warmer above the ball, my room was cold at Wintertime. And used a homemade glass mousepad with a sand blasted quake 1 logo on the back. At that time perfection xD Also overclocked CRT monitor 160hz 0ms 1200p Upgraded to 30" 1600P IPS around 2007 crap, now i made one of these long comments again. anyhow if you read all this have a good one.
Hey such a nice with you thank you for that. I've been looking at this mouse but I mostly drawn to the compact model. Did you happen to try out the compact model as well?
@@JosephKim Hi, thanks for your reply. I'm assuming you are using the Logitech Master MX2S or MX3S. I'm currently using an Evoluent Vertical Mouse D, which also has a middle mouse button next to a scroll wheel, and I've just gotten so used to the middle mouse button that I realized that I couldn't live without it anymore. I tried out many different mice, including the Master MX3S, which was a little too big for me. I also had the Logitech Vertical Mouse, which absolutely didn't feel well, and I used the Logitech Marathon, like a smaller, older design, and I recently bought a Razer Basilisk V3, which is a really great mouse, but it doesn't have the middle mouse button and I absolutely miss it so much. So that's why I decided to look for a somewhat less vertical mouse that still has a middle mouse button, and I think the one in your video is exactly what I'm looking for.
Which would you recommend for a 3D artist? CadMouse Pro Wireless (7200dpi) or Logitech Master Mx3(4000dpi) or some other mouse considering all other features? and also please suggest a good keyboard. Any other keyboard to consider other than Logitech Craft?
I've done review for MX Master 3 and MX keys. A good set. Dpi over certain number doesn't really have difference in work. I think it comes down to the functions and features that you can use.
Loving this video! I wonder how does the color match with Logitech MX Keys? I've been using the smaller CadMouse Wireless for more than 2 years now, and completely spoiled by the remapped middle mouse button - as the scroll wheel button! I am still torn between choosing this or Logitech MX Master 3, most probably will go for this. I cannot imagine doing drawings or modelling without the middle mouse button. Unfortunately there's no way to find it in Amazon/eBay/other platform - except the similar but Left Version - and I live in Malaysia :(
Once you have gotten your muscle memory, you gotta stick with it, right? It is unfortunate that the product is not available there. I wonder if 3Dcommexion can directly ship.
Good review. Anyone used it for 3D CAD software Vectorworks? Can the buttons be customised to VW? Trying to decide where to get the Logitech Master 3S or the 3D Connexion cad mouse. Any thoughts appreciated.
I bought it and tried to use it with my Mac and it failed.The mouse moves but doesn’t response when I click, and tried to update software and wrote them but no reply. I found many similar reviews to mine experience on Amazon. Now I am searching for similar mouse design but other brand. So if anyone know good cad mouse for mac, please share with me ;)
I have both Razor and the MX master. Use those for many years. The MX is newer for me, but I do like the ergonomics and especially that weighted scroll wheel (!). Use them with Fusion360, Rhino (and Alias and Solidworks which I've since dumped for the latter). I'd be curious in a CAD specific mouse with middle button, but certainly feel like there are some pros/cons to this particular option in the video.
I just bought the logitech Mx master 3S....in one word...it's the worst mouse I've ever purchased in 30 years....exceptionally uncomfortable..felt pain after 30 minutes of use..because of its bizarre shape supposed to give more comfort and relief to the hand..i don't know how they get into the worst shape they could have ever found lol!! so a waste of time and money my question is : is this one having that same issue??? i'm looking for a high-end quality mouse with comfort at the top of all the criteria!
@@JosephKim thanks for the quick answer..articulations fingers and wrist because the mouse feel bigger and because of it’s shape I can’treally reach the buttons normally and the use of the wheel seems difficult and painful and to do I have to grab the mouse in my palm which not normal .. a mouse should be easy to use without having to grab it like an Apple 🍏 .. I also have to mention that I was recently suffering articulation pain along my arm and the 2 last fingers due to a cervical hernia. I bought this mouse to have more comfort and it’s the opposite which happened..
Joseph, are you still using this mouse? If so, how long did it take to re-train your muscle memory to use the middle mouse button and the button on top?
I'll be honest. I couldn't daily drive this. I jump between 3 machines. Means 3 mouse. I got same mouse all around, introducing one different one will be a lot of trouble.
Hi Kim, just a quick question about Enscape on your latest video. Does Enscape has the capability to select different options, such as changing floor material, changing sink, cooktop, etc like Unity or Unreal? Thanks in advance!
I am not sure if I am understanding your accurately. You can change the materials from the CAD software you are using. But you are not able to set it as options in Enscape.
Nice video, I think for CAD and 3D apps the radial menu isn't very useful, as I have my other hand on the keyboard with immediate access to popular commands. Saying that, they would be helpful for presentations expect, where the keyboard may not be so close. I do like the middle button though and might give it a go soon. I have the space mouse and it's very useful for 3D apps (SketchUp in my case). I think I have an MX518 at the moment and really like the 4 side buttons, I use these for snap and ortho on/off, along with print preview and something else, which i forget!
Cadmouse is working all fine when connected to laptop... but with my ipad pro, it is only able to show the pointer, clicking is not working... is anyone facing similar issue?
If take into consideration the price of it can be evaluated as extravaganza Lets say to real painter can paint high art picture even with use of fingers .
For me it's simple. You can use equipment for kids for your professional work, but remember - you will not be considered professional by some of your customers. So no gaming toys in my kit. Only top of the line professional grade stuff. It also ages better, especially when you travel a lot. For me it's about a year with toy laptop and 2 years with professional one, until they brake down. Mice are similar. Few months wit Razer, Logitech Mx Anywhere lasts me for 2 years now, but I need larger device because of my developing CTS. So I consider Mx Master 3 or Cad Mouse Pro.
@@ovDarkness depends on what is the particular "toy".....it could look normal and be better and last longer then a "pro" mouse or laptop... but if u need a quadro card for some reason yeah that will be classified as a pro product
@@pumpuppthevolume when I say "Pro" I do it with support, build quality and aesthetics in mind. No gaming laptop has 5 year next business day warranty that you can have with Precision or Thinkpad. Mice and keyboards are more personal preference dependent, but I'd stray away from "gaming" grade equipment - they are built for flex in mind, not longevity.
It's CAD specific mostly because you have a separate middle button that's not a scroll wheel. Trust me... I have been waiting for a CAD specific mouse for like 10 years.
A big difference is that the MX Master 3 is very palm grip heavy, if you generally use claw grip I would choose the CADmouse. But for palm grip the MX Master 3 is very ergonomic by not having the ulna bone and the radius bones twist on the carpal tunnel without having the hand at an extreme angle like the MX Vertical. Plus, the new MX Master 3 is very luxurious with the solid metal scroll wheel that is magnet driven rather than ratchet driven
My god he’s really trying to get to that 10 minutes, “this mouse has some stopping points.... I don’t know if you can hear that....” that’s what a mouse does genius
My god you must be one of those millennials requiring adhd-sped up reviews with an awkward person yelling and shouting while throwing in memes every five second in order to gel with the content. There’s nothing wrong with this review and if you find anything worth considering for improvement, say something constructive. Not everyone minds the YT algorithm as you’re implying this person does. And calling someone genius for no reason at all is just shitty manner.
best to listen at 1.5 times speed. No thanks required.
Yep! I agree
You must mean 0.25...
Very helpful! Going to pick one up
Nice!
Nice video! It’s a great concept and packaging in a nice professional bundle. However, I’m very particular about my mouse and the way it handles. I tried out this mouse and ultimately had to return it because the middle mouse button was too much of a firm press for my liking. Constant double clicking the middle mouse for AutoCAD zoom extents was a deal breaker for me. Been sticking with the same Dell wired mouse model for years. haha
There's nothing like a good ol' tool that you have mastered. It's like the constriction workers swearing by certain type and brand of a drill. :)
This is just a Logitech MX Master 3 with a dedicated MMB? Dman, I'd love that as a 3D artist.
That's the biggest difference :)
Also good to note that there are Right and Left handed versions which is a huge bonus.
Nice!
7200 DPI. 7200. What a relief that this mouse will detect hand movement of only a few microns! I absolutely need this level of precision, given my superhuman dexterity.
Lol, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. 🙃
It's necessary for particular CAD uses.
@@energ8t No. It is not.
I soon get my "3D Connexion CadMouse Compact"
Logitech G600 also got 3 main buttons as well, i have not tried that one yet.
There is quite allot people talking to Logitech about doing an updated wireless G600 but we never know if they will.
I found some Japanese made "ELECOM Wired 3D CAD Mouse"
But that's about it i think
I like logitech MX Master 3 as well
@@JosephKim why?
no middle button,.
But i read somewhere the software is good and that side weel.
But people have complained about it not being anatomic. I guess claw grip is not possible. its probably good fore some people, but i,m after 3 buttons.
Last time i bought a logitech mouse it was 5 of these: "Logitech model M-S35"
i moded my mouse i but mouse warmer above the ball, my room was cold at Wintertime. And used a homemade glass mousepad with a sand blasted quake 1 logo on the back.
At that time perfection xD
Also overclocked CRT monitor 160hz 0ms 1200p
Upgraded to 30" 1600P IPS around 2007
crap, now i made one of these long comments again. anyhow if you read all this have a good one.
@@derptweaker945 I read it! Love hearing about other people's setups. :) I don't prefer to do claw grip, but it really is down to preference.
Hey such a nice with you thank you for that. I've been looking at this mouse but I mostly drawn to the compact model. Did you happen to try out the compact model as well?
No, I'd think it is pretty good tho. tbh, I daily drive Logitech mouse.
@@JosephKim Hi, thanks for your reply. I'm assuming you are using the Logitech Master MX2S or MX3S. I'm currently using an Evoluent Vertical Mouse D, which also has a middle mouse button next to a scroll wheel, and I've just gotten so used to the middle mouse button that I realized that I couldn't live without it anymore. I tried out many different mice, including the Master MX3S, which was a little too big for me. I also had the Logitech Vertical Mouse, which absolutely didn't feel well, and I used the Logitech Marathon, like a smaller, older design, and I recently bought a Razer Basilisk V3, which is a really great mouse, but it doesn't have the middle mouse button and I absolutely miss it so much. So that's why I decided to look for a somewhat less vertical mouse that still has a middle mouse button, and I think the one in your video is exactly what I'm looking for.
좋다.... 스페이스 마우스는 쓰고 있지만 이걸 살까 고민하고 있는데 사야겠네요
ㅎㅎ 뭐가 마음에 드시나요?
Which would you recommend for a 3D artist? CadMouse Pro Wireless (7200dpi) or Logitech Master Mx3(4000dpi) or some other mouse considering all other features? and also please suggest a good keyboard. Any other keyboard to consider other than Logitech Craft?
I've done review for MX Master 3 and MX keys. A good set. Dpi over certain number doesn't really have difference in work. I think it comes down to the functions and features that you can use.
@@JosephKim Thanks for the quick response! ..and about the keyboard I mentioned?
Loving this video! I wonder how does the color match with Logitech MX Keys?
I've been using the smaller CadMouse Wireless for more than 2 years now, and completely spoiled by the remapped middle mouse button - as the scroll wheel button!
I am still torn between choosing this or Logitech MX Master 3, most probably will go for this. I cannot imagine doing drawings or modelling without the middle mouse button.
Unfortunately there's no way to find it in Amazon/eBay/other platform - except the similar but Left Version - and I live in Malaysia :(
Once you have gotten your muscle memory, you gotta stick with it, right? It is unfortunate that the product is not available there. I wonder if 3Dcommexion can directly ship.
Good review. Anyone used it for 3D CAD software Vectorworks? Can the buttons be customised to VW? Trying to decide where to get the Logitech Master 3S or the 3D Connexion cad mouse. Any thoughts appreciated.
I think you can. You also can reach out to 3Dconnexion. But I personally prefer Logitech MX Master S3 as it is more conventional.
I like the menu that comes up, I assume it can also be used for plugins?
if the plugins have shortcuts within SketchUp, then the radial menu can hit that shortcut :)
This mouse looks great, does anyone have experience with it? How is the quality? Some reviews say the buttons fail quickly.
I bought it and tried to use it with my Mac and it failed.The mouse moves but doesn’t response when I click, and tried to update software and wrote them but no reply. I found many similar reviews to mine experience on Amazon. Now I am searching for similar mouse design but other brand. So if anyone know good cad mouse for mac, please share with me ;)
@@NadiiaMoore there was a problem with the first batch but they said they've addressed it
Can you assign right click to the middle button, in such way that it will work both in CAD program and in Window as usual right button?
Yes.
@@JosephKim Thanx =)
Are the clicks hard or like a normal mouse? I'm looking for an ergonomic mouse with really light clicks, do you have any suggestions? thanks
It was like a normal mouse.
Are the buttons noiseless click? I work in a quiet environment and dislike the loud clicking sound of the mouse.
It wasn't something that was really loud. I also dislike some cheap cringe mouse sound, but this isn't it.
Very informative video Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
my razer mouse has more buttons and lights and btw logitech has the mx master which has the same functions and ideas
I don't find more buttons are better...
true, not enough buttons for a workstation. on the side there should be at least 4, not only 2. and much too expensive for what it does.
I have both Razor and the MX master. Use those for many years. The MX is newer for me, but I do like the ergonomics and especially that weighted scroll wheel (!). Use them with Fusion360, Rhino (and Alias and Solidworks which I've since dumped for the latter). I'd be curious in a CAD specific mouse with middle button, but certainly feel like there are some pros/cons to this particular option in the video.
이 마우스는 일반 아시안 남성에게 너무 큰가요..? 그리고 무선버전이 연결성이 좋지 않다고도 보았는데 어떤지 궁금합니다
개인적으론 손은 작은 편이나 마우스가 너무 크다고 느껴 본적은 없어요. 무선 문제는 없었는데 장기적으로 써보지 않아서 아주 좋다고는 말 못하겠네요
Thanks, bro!
Thank you!
I just bought the logitech Mx master 3S....in one word...it's the worst mouse I've ever purchased in 30 years....exceptionally uncomfortable..felt pain after 30 minutes of use..because of its bizarre shape supposed to give more comfort and relief to the hand..i don't know how they get into the worst shape they could have ever found lol!! so a waste of time and money
my question is : is this one having that same issue??? i'm looking for a high-end quality mouse with comfort at the top of all the criteria!
I can't tell you if this one would be suitable for you either as I have not experienced the same with Master 3S. which part of your hand is in pain?
@@JosephKim thanks for the quick answer..articulations fingers and wrist because the mouse feel bigger and because of it’s shape I can’treally reach the buttons normally and the use of the wheel seems difficult and painful and to do I have to grab the mouse in my palm which not normal .. a mouse should be easy to use without having to grab it like an Apple 🍏 ..
I also have to mention that I was recently suffering articulation pain along my arm and the 2 last fingers due to a cervical hernia. I bought this mouse to have more comfort and it’s the opposite which happened..
@@JosephKim I bought 3DConnexion space pilot pro .. and still looking for the right mouse to ease my long long time using Archicad ..
Joseph, are you still using this mouse? If so, how long did it take to re-train your muscle memory to use the middle mouse button and the button on top?
I'll be honest. I couldn't daily drive this. I jump between 3 machines. Means 3 mouse. I got same mouse all around, introducing one different one will be a lot of trouble.
사용하지 못한 이유가 무엇인가요…? 크기? 연결성..?
So does this work for Mac? Says supported operating systems Mac OS coming soon?
I believe there is a beta software available.
Hi Kim, just a quick question about Enscape on your latest video. Does Enscape has the capability to select different options, such as changing floor material, changing sink, cooktop, etc like Unity or Unreal? Thanks in advance!
I am not sure if I am understanding your accurately. You can change the materials from the CAD software you are using. But you are not able to set it as options in Enscape.
@@JosephKim Thanks Joseph for the confirmation! Client asks to be able to change material in VR. I will need to purchase Eyecad VR for this..
Thks! great!
Thank you!
Do you know how to override this inertia effect (on Linux)?
Oh that's is beyond me. Especially, on Linux. Sorry.
Can’t find the right handed one
Ha! Interesting. Maybe ebay?
Nice video, I think for CAD and 3D apps the radial menu isn't very useful, as I have my other hand on the keyboard with immediate access to popular commands. Saying that, they would be helpful for presentations expect, where the keyboard may not be so close. I do like the middle button though and might give it a go soon. I have the space mouse and it's very useful for 3D apps (SketchUp in my case).
I think I have an MX518 at the moment and really like the 4 side buttons, I use these for snap and ortho on/off, along with print preview and something else, which i forget!
That's fair! Thanks for the feedback
@@JosephKim You're welcome!
Cadmouse is working all fine when connected to laptop... but with my ipad pro, it is only able to show the pointer, clicking is not working... is anyone facing similar issue?
Interesting. I did not know it works with iPad. Maybe it is not meant to do that?
@@JosephKim ... Figured it out, the hardware version delivered to me is old one. The new CadMouse works with iPad... You may give it a try.
@@shrutiniwassharma nice!
If take into consideration the price of it can be evaluated as extravaganza Lets say to real painter can paint high art picture even with use of fingers .
Sorry, I do not understand.
The wheel has left and right tilt?
nope.
@@JosephKim that's unfortunate. Thank for the reply
There is a version for left handed people
@@arnasagen8077 That has nothing to do with what he asked about.
@@bassage13 I was trying to be helpful, but clearly misread his question. Sorry that my mistake bothered you so much
So do lefties use a space mouse with their RIGHT hand?
Haha, I guess so!
Not all of us lefties🖲🖱. I don't normally wear my watch on the right hand either👈 To me, using a space mouse with that hand would feel a bit awkward.
Yes, 3D spacemouse is designed to use with their right hand for the lefties. Same as it's used with the left hand for the righties.
nice but holyyyyy that PRICE !!!
Lol, ikr.
When Dell has a glitched price of £6.50 haha
Lol, did they?
@@JosephKim Yeah they're selling this one for £6.50 and the spacemouse for £19.
@@khaldrogo6130 nice
they might cancel the order though, they usually mess up the prices because apparently they are set manually. still gonna order one you never know.
@@user-su6js9po4l 🤣🤣
😍😍👍👍
:D
"CadMouse" ...also known as a mouse ...but it does have some neat features ...which u can sort of do with mmo mice too
For me it's simple. You can use equipment for kids for your professional work, but remember - you will not be considered professional by some of your customers.
So no gaming toys in my kit. Only top of the line professional grade stuff. It also ages better, especially when you travel a lot. For me it's about a year with toy laptop and 2 years with professional one, until they brake down.
Mice are similar. Few months wit Razer, Logitech Mx Anywhere lasts me for 2 years now, but I need larger device because of my developing CTS.
So I consider Mx Master 3 or Cad Mouse Pro.
@@ovDarkness depends on what is the particular "toy".....it could look normal and be better and last longer then a "pro" mouse or laptop... but if u need a quadro card for some reason yeah that will be classified as a pro product
@@pumpuppthevolume when I say "Pro" I do it with support, build quality and aesthetics in mind.
No gaming laptop has 5 year next business day warranty that you can have with Precision or Thinkpad.
Mice and keyboards are more personal preference dependent, but I'd stray away from "gaming" grade equipment - they are built for flex in mind, not longevity.
It's CAD specific mostly because you have a separate middle button that's not a scroll wheel. Trust me... I have been waiting for a CAD specific mouse for like 10 years.
This or MX master 3 for cad?
I think it is down to your pref :)
@@JosephKim I've never used that CAD mouse, and I've only tried the MX master 1. What do you personally prefer?
@@dadricriggs I use MX Master daily as I own multiple Logitech devices between home and office. Only because I don't want to switch devices.
A big difference is that the MX Master 3 is very palm grip heavy, if you generally use claw grip I would choose the CADmouse. But for palm grip the MX Master 3 is very ergonomic by not having the ulna bone and the radius bones twist on the carpal tunnel without having the hand at an extreme angle like the MX Vertical.
Plus, the new MX Master 3 is very luxurious with the solid metal scroll wheel that is magnet driven rather than ratchet driven
My god he’s really trying to get to that 10 minutes, “this mouse has some stopping points.... I don’t know if you can hear that....” that’s what a mouse does genius
not sure if this comment is meant to be a criticism. but I actually don't understand your comment.
My god you must be one of those millennials requiring adhd-sped up reviews with an awkward person yelling and shouting while throwing in memes every five second in order to gel with the content. There’s nothing wrong with this review and if you find anything worth considering for improvement, say something constructive. Not everyone minds the YT algorithm as you’re implying this person does. And calling someone genius for no reason at all is just shitty manner.
@@mixchief chill, it's okay to give a critique but you don't have to get mad over it, some people are very particular with tech features. Let it be...
No accent, yet lots of grammatical errors.
Haha, I agree! :P sorry, I'm sure it is quite distracting.