The way ginyu used cold body in multiverse was op especially when babidi had control of him bro was insta killing everyone left in right with the body⚡️
Frieza was an extreme sociopath with little concern for anyone around him. He appreciated loyalty however, and Ginyu was undyingly loyal to Frieza, and seemed to even idolise him.
thank you for bringing back What Ifs. I have another one for you. What if the Dragonballs couldn't bring back the dead. they can do anything else, just not that.
They actually did a scenario of this in the fan manga in dragonball multiverse. I think he unlocked more forms that Frieza didnt even discover when he fought Majin Bra. I think given enough time and mastery of Frieza or even Goku's body, Guinyu might be able to figure out both their techniques and transformations. I mean if we assume hes used this technique before he used it on Goku, then we can also assume the body he has in the Z isnt even his orignal body and he had to master his current body overtime as well
@@QaamansLand I think it's either Guinyu takes over Frieza's body or I think he somehow manages to take over King Cold's and for a while is paranoid someone is going to discover it's not actually Cold himself the way he's acting. It's been a while since I read the manga so I don't remeber all the details. But he manages to make Frieza or Cold unlock a 5th and 6th form I think
@@lordhades598 yeah it's something like that the whole competition shifts to who's the culprit in Frieza race and whose body Ginyu stole once he was kicked out or killed I think it's the latter one it's really fun even I barely remember since I read that part ages ago
@@TheZivin I think he took Cold's body somehow because in this universe Cold also has the ability to transform like his sons, and has more transformations
Frieza wouldnt let a threat like ginyu exist if he wasnt handleable. He destroyed planet vegeta long before any sayian was actually even close to his FIRST forms power.
Ginyu doing brief training to master his new body would unironically make him way more powerful than Frieza ever was despite not knowing how to transforms
@@Eric6761 Probably because Zarbon and Dodoria are actually closer to Frieza than the Ginyu Force is. The Ginyu Force is the elites called in when shit has hit the fan, but those two were his trusted aids, he only called the Ginyu Force AFTER they died. They've probably witnessed it first hand.
I have a silly theory, that the purple body that Ginyu certainly swapped into during some fight, I always thought that, said body is the natural look of whatever frieza's race was called.
Another question I don’t see as much is since Ginyu is dead now since Vegeta killed him in Super, why isn’t he depicted in his original body (whatever it was). He’s always shown as the one people recognize him as in the Namek saga even though most likely that body doesn’t belong to him.
Great video. Id like to add my headcanon about that last bit at the end: I think it was largely a pride and sadistic thing with Ginyu that made him want a fair fight since he first thought he was actually stronger than Goku and was going to win in the end and wanted to enjoy making Goku suffer, and got angry at Jeice for essentially insulting his Ginyu Force leadership and fighting capabilities by using underhanded tactics when he had the advantage so far and was enjoying the fight (his power level was 120000 vs Goku's 90000 until goku used kaipken x2 to go up to 180000, so he thought he was stronger) it was only after which learned prompted Ginyu to change his mind and take Gokus body out of desperation. I agree it is rather hypocritical and funny in retrospect, but he wouldn't have reacted to Jeice the way he did if he didnt think he was stronger before Goku powered up to kaioken. his mental breakdown against Goku going kaioken 180000 proves that to me.
@@QaamansLandin my opinion was somewhat to save the pride he has on himself because maybe on his mind defeating the guy who humiliated his force would prove to himself that he is the toughest
To your question about practicing body change, I have one counter. How did Vegeta practice using a self destruct technique? It's always possible that he just intrinsically knew how, although it wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't his original body.
I am guessing the self destruct thing is just him unleasing all his ki and turning his life force into ki and kept releasing it till he had nomore the Saibaman can do the same but instant cuz they are programmed I guess, might be some bio tech
An interesting thing about Ginyu is that he might be nigh-immortal. Far as we know the mind/living soul doesn't age, so if his body gets old and decrepit all he needs is to change. He could be ancient even if his body doesn't have some exaggerated lifespan I think if Ginyu could wish on the Dragonballs he would wish for being able to change places simply by thinking "Change Now" (thus you couldn't just cover his mouth to stop him) and instantly gain the skills of whatever body he takes control of Another idea: we have no idea what the power limit is to his body swap is so he could theoretically take control of Whis with the right circumstances. However that would be fatal because we learn if an angel interferes too much they cease to exist
I still really wanna know what would happen ginyu stole a fusions body. Like what happens when the timer runs out? Does ginyu’s split somehow, does ginyu get 1 body and the other becomes brain dead? Does the fusion mentally separate in ginyus body?
Simple answer, apparently ya swap bodies with a fusion. And even if they could the person who swap would essentially would no longer exist and the defused bodies would not have a consciousness in them.
When the fusion splits ginyu's mind would be cloned and would be in both bodies while the ginyu body would now have 2 minds in it from the fusion defusing think of it like multiple personality disorder
The better question is: is that Ginyu's original body or has he been changing for a long time? Would that make him practically immortal as long as he finds someone to body change with?
What if Ginyu knew about Frieza's transformations (since Zarbon knew) and Ginyu probably had bodies before that could also transform. What if he was waiting for Frieza to transform before taking over his body? And Frieza made the transformations weaken him to prevent attempts to body snatch him. Frieza has used his 2nd form in combat before, so it is likely Ginyu needed Frieza in order to find stronger bodies for himself, although Frieza knew this and decided to kill the opponent rather than let Ginyu have him in this instance.
Simple answer, Ginyu and Frieza are practically friends and Ginyu probably respects and likes Frieza too much even consider it. Also Frieza signs his paycheck, So there’s that too.
if ginyu did it, he'll turn the army upside down he'll make them the best ballerina dancers squad that they'll rock the universe with their signature poses specifically the dance of joy
He would benefit off of his natural strength but I doubt he would have tapped into the deeper depths of his potential overtime like Frieza did. Only person to do a body switch flawlessly and used it better than the original owner was Goku Black/Zamasu. I remember when people were comparing his natural potential to Broly. Though that’s a stretch he adapted very well to his vessel
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Think guldo was doing the psychokinetic hold in that clip. Freeza's strength is sort of natural. He probably doesnt require training like Goku 's. The opposite might be an issue. Transforming back to conserve energy. Or managing that power.
I like to think Frieza made Ginyu his Top Soldier solely because of his unique ability. Someone like that could be a potential threat so how about you make them worship you instead so they never think of the idea.
Frieza knows about Ginyu's ability, but Ginyu has another option: first take the body of someone else (like one of Frieza's underlings), then get close to Frieza and catch him off guard. Frieza's speed / reaction time would naturally depend on his form, so it'd have better chances to work if he was using his most suppressed form.
I mean if it’s confirmed that ginyu won’t switch with cell aside from the PTSD of Cell looking like a frog but cell being WAY to cracked and won’t survive and obviously frieza is almost powerful and won’t survive neither
A better question (one that even the wiki asks) is how he managed to survive kid buu nuking the planet, especially considering thr wish was only to revive *good* people? Did bro have some sort of revelation as a frog while on earth?
If only good people was revived there would be either world peace or fewer than even 6B people, and considering someone tried to rob Goku in Super, I'd say everyone got revived
pretty sure ginyu would be able to access most of freezas strength due to two discrepancies. freezas final form is his natural form, so the likely chain of events would be body swap- brief possession of freezas first form- then his body reverts back to his natural final form because it is his default form. additionally, Goku was an outlier due to the fact that he is abnormal in his mastery of ki and supreme control of his strength. freezas strength is an inborn trait and likely something ginyu would retain.
What if, in the ssj2 Gohan vs perfect cell battle cell fires the Kamehameha away from Gohan instead of at him, like if he turned around and bombed the earth with it, I think perfect cell may have won
@QaamansLand Idk about winning I think he thought he might have the upper hand but Goku was far from showing off his abilities. I think Ginyu wanted to see how strong Goku really was as he does with every opponent to see if the person is stronger than him so he can steal their body. After all Goku did beat 3 Ginyu force members with ease and Ginyu knows about that.
Funny how Ginyu claimed that he was no2 in the universe behind Frieza despite knowing that King Cold was out there. Ginyu even worked for him before according to the 2018 movie. Frieza also made a weird statement when he faced Goku that he never thought anyone could surpass Ginyu which made no sense since Piccolo and Vegeta were much stronger than him.
What if Captain Ginyu Stole Moro's body? Personally, i think Moro would be unaffected by his soul taken out and he would just steal Ginyu's Soul during the 'change now' process and Ginyu would just drop dead
I don't think you're giving enough credit to the situation Ginyu was in when he stole Goku's body. The bulk of Goku's 180,000 power level came from the Kaio-ken, which was a technique that obviously Ginyu wasn't aware of. This resulted in him only having a power level of around 20,000 (which we can assume is about what Goku's power was without the Kaio-ken). But Ginyu didn't have time to learn all the tricks that Goku's body was hiding, and would have certainly grown more powerful if he had time to adjust. Similarly, while at first Ginyu wouldn't know how to transform into Frieza's other forms, it can be reasonably assumed that, like Goku Black, Ginyu would be able to unlock these abilities with time. Goku Black's advantage over Ginyu was time, which in this scenario wouldn't be weighing him down.
@@QaamansLand That depends on a lot of things that aren't clear in the manga/anime. How often do they even see each other? Given how crafty King Cold appears to be though, I would guess that he would realize that Ginyu stole Frieza's body, feign ignorance, and then kill him when he sees an opening. The only way this would be avoided is if Ginyu was somehow stronger or was able to take the initiative in swapping bodies like he did with Frieza. But then again, even if he swapped bodies with King Cold... he would once again be in an unfamiliar body, and unlike the swap with Frieza, King Cold would likely be able to harness more than enough of Frieza's body's power to kill him. So in short, it doesn't look good for Ginyu if he meets King Cold.
💀 dude base goku’s power level was stated to be 90,000 in the ginyu fight in the daizenshuu and we know that goku used kaiokenx2 and obviously 90,000 x 2 = 180,000.also goku one shotted recoome who completely destroyed vegeta who’s power leve at that time was over 30,000 💀
I mean it's there a chance since freeza is technically suppressing himself that if Ginyu took his body he could maybe revert back into final form since that would in theory be his "natural" form
I mean, Frieza isn't constantly supressing himself and when Ginyu took Goku's body it was even weaker than it's base so he'd possible be at a power level of 300 000 instead of Frieza's 1st form base and not be able to transform, especially since Frieza himself had a difficult time doing it and it took alot of strain
I think you are right that if Ginyu were to pull it off, he wouldn't be able to transform. But an interesting deep dive with no answer would be how old is Ginyu? Is he immortal as long as he changes bodies? Is his ability learned or an inherit ability that his race has like Namekian Fusion or Instant Transmission with the Yardrats?
Frieza go to earth after Vegeta get beat up on earth, and he demand a wish from the dragon to grant him immortality. How would that change the whole scenario, Frieza didn’t know the language on planet Namek to make that wish.
Qaaman everybody forgets in the future Trunks arc that every z fighter dies but why couldn't Captain Ginyu use the body swap with a regular earthling and then swap for another stronger person.
The honor of gyniu is not the honor of a fighter is the pride from a capitán when he battles he does alone because he represents the elite in the gyniu forcé but he is allowed to use "cheating" táctics as he dosent want to be kind He is the threat for his Powers and hax
It honestly seems it's not in Frieza's character to allow someone with such ability hear him regularly. He killed Saiyans just because of some legend. If someone is a threat, he kills them. Ginyu is a threat. At ressurection of frieza it honestly doesn't seem like he cared of valued Ginyiu in any special way.
It would have been cool for ginyu to join forces with cell and freiza and the rest of the ginyu force and cell spit out cell Jr 's and swap bodies with the cell Jr 's
from my understanding ginyu couldn't use goku's full power because he didn't know how to use the kaioken, with frieza he should be able to use the full power maybe
Ginyu didnt do it for honor , he guessed Goku's pl so he thought might as well get a good fight plus he is prideful ,he doesnt want to know he is weaker then anyone else not Frieza. He didnt know Goku had a tehnique that could boost his power by alot . Plus Ginyu's tehnique reminds me of the Mafuba ,if someone knows of it they can reverse with enough power. ,plus we are forgeting Frieza has pretty good telekinisis ,I doubt his mind is so easy to overtake unlike Goku who is naive and open like a book
Keeping in mind That i took my calculator and the power Ginyu gets from a new body is of 25% to 26% so had Ginyu took Frieza body he would absolutely get just barely stronger than his original body which is kinda pathetic but would Ginyu get Frieza potential? Would he get the training necessary to achieve his potential?
@@QaamansLand oh yes, well, if it is Vegeta after getting wrecked by Recoome i would say Just as strong as i calculated Ginyu on Frieza body or somewhat inferior because Vegeta actually could hold Frieza on First form as if he could beat him or not it's debatable but to sum up Ginyu on Vegeta body would be somewhat the same
@@Eric6761 there's a theory that Ginyu couldn't use Goku's full power because his power is built off of ki control. Meanwhile a "naturally strong" body like Tagoma was actually made stronger when Ginyu took it because his body doesn't need as much mind body connection as Goku's did. So it's possible that Ginyu would actually make Vegetas body stronger like he did to Tagoma
Do you think Ginyu has a Dio mindset? A swisted view where he only steals the bodies og people who "respects" or takes interest in. Unless he's desperate, like in super.
If Ginyu had stolen Vegeta's body would he have had access to all of Vegeta's power in the Namek Saga? As Vegeta's strength and skills may have been honed similarly to Ginyu because of both their backgrounds in the Frieza force.
If he stole frieza's body he'd be able to achieve a power level of 135,000. this is equivalent to the proportion of goku's power he was able to access when he switched. so he would still be way stronger than basically anyone else in the universe except king cold (and of course buu and beerus, etc.)
@@pIayingwithmahwiihow would Goku's Kaio-Ken damage him in frieza's body when he couldn't beat Frieza himself with it and ginyu's power would increase from jumping to a more powerful body, doesn't make sense
@@justinarzola4584 goku had a power level of 90,000 when he arrived on namek. kaio-ken x2 puts him at 180,000. If Ginyu switched bodies with frieza, due to the unfamiliarity he would only be able to access about a power level of 135,000. Goku's 180,000 is far above that, and that's only kaio-ken x2, goku could probably go up to x10 at this point. idk why you're assuming ginyu would have access to frieza's 100% final form power.
@@pIayingwithmahwii it mostly depends what form of Frieza he takes over,and yeah Goku would beat him if he is in Frieza's first form,Ginyu wouldn't be able to get frieza's 100% form cause he wouldn't know how to use it properly without forcibly pushing himself to that limit when his back is against the wall, I was talking about the fourth form not the 100% since Goku's Kaio-Ken ken didn't work on Frieza in that form.
What if Mr Satan BEAT Cell!
That’s literally what happened wym
yeah I don’t get it either? he whooped cell on live television, literally squashed cell like the bug he is 💀
What If Captain Ginyu STOLE Frieza's BODY?
yeah Mr Satan is the greatest martial artist ever!!
You mean he didn't?! Wow ive been deceieved this whole time?! Also, what if Guinyu stole Mr Satan/Hercule's body?
If he took Frieza's body, he'd come up with new poses.
The way ginyu used cold body in multiverse was op especially when babidi had control of him bro was insta killing everyone left in right with the body⚡️
I’ve always had the head canon that freeza and Ginyu were actually friends. Why else would freeza let someone with such a crazy power near him?
Frieza was an extreme sociopath with little concern for anyone around him.
He appreciated loyalty however, and Ginyu was undyingly loyal to Frieza, and seemed to even idolise him.
thank you for bringing back What Ifs. I have another one for you.
What if the Dragonballs couldn't bring back the dead. they can do anything else, just not that.
They actually did a scenario of this in the fan manga in dragonball multiverse. I think he unlocked more forms that Frieza didnt even discover when he fought Majin Bra. I think given enough time and mastery of Frieza or even Goku's body, Guinyu might be able to figure out both their techniques and transformations. I mean if we assume hes used this technique before he used it on Goku, then we can also assume the body he has in the Z isnt even his orignal body and he had to master his current body overtime as well
More details?
@@QaamansLand I think it's either Guinyu takes over Frieza's body or I think he somehow manages to take over King Cold's and for a while is paranoid someone is going to discover it's not actually Cold himself the way he's acting. It's been a while since I read the manga so I don't remeber all the details. But he manages to make Frieza or Cold unlock a 5th and 6th form I think
@@lordhades598 yeah it's something like that the whole competition shifts to who's the culprit in Frieza race and whose body Ginyu stole once he was kicked out or killed I think it's the latter one it's really fun even I barely remember since I read that part ages ago
@@TheZivin I think he took Cold's body somehow because in this universe Cold also has the ability to transform like his sons, and has more transformations
yeah Ginyu took over king colds body and trained to the point where they had augmented forms even above frieza and cooler
Frieza wouldnt let a threat like ginyu exist if he wasnt handleable.
He destroyed planet vegeta long before any sayian was actually even close to his FIRST forms power.
Ginyu doing brief training to master his new body would unironically make him way more powerful than Frieza ever was despite not knowing how to transforms
very interesting point here
I think everyone of trust knows that Frieza can transform because it's weird for only Zarbon and Dodoria to know
depends,frieza's forms might be a hard cap so training might only get you up to a certain point
@@TheBillhsfirst form Frieza was stronger than piccolo in ROF. Ginyu would probably surpass most of z with minimal training
@@Eric6761
Probably because Zarbon and Dodoria are actually closer to Frieza than the Ginyu Force is. The Ginyu Force is the elites called in when shit has hit the fan, but those two were his trusted aids, he only called the Ginyu Force AFTER they died. They've probably witnessed it first hand.
What If Android 16 still had his bomb? Would it really have killed Perfect cell & therefore no super Saiyan 2 Gohan?
I have a silly theory, that the purple body that Ginyu certainly swapped into during some fight, I always thought that, said body is the natural look of whatever frieza's race was called.
Another question I don’t see as much is since Ginyu is dead now since Vegeta killed him in Super, why isn’t he depicted in his original body (whatever it was). He’s always shown as the one people recognize him as in the Namek saga even though most likely that body doesn’t belong to him.
I guess after the switch he's linked to the body. Great question!!!!
It's possible that's just because he's had the body for a long time
Ginyu letting Goku go wasn't a sign of honour, he probably wanted to keep him around because he wanted a good fight, or to steal a stronger body.
Great video. Id like to add my headcanon about that last bit at the end: I think it was largely a pride and sadistic thing with Ginyu that made him want a fair fight since he first thought he was actually stronger than Goku and was going to win in the end and wanted to enjoy making Goku suffer, and got angry at Jeice for essentially insulting his Ginyu Force leadership and fighting capabilities by using underhanded tactics when he had the advantage so far and was enjoying the fight (his power level was 120000 vs Goku's 90000 until goku used kaipken x2 to go up to 180000, so he thought he was stronger) it was only after which learned prompted Ginyu to change his mind and take Gokus body out of desperation. I agree it is rather hypocritical and funny in retrospect, but he wouldn't have reacted to Jeice the way he did if he didnt think he was stronger before Goku powered up to kaioken. his mental breakdown against Goku going kaioken 180000 proves that to me.
Great points. Why do you think Ginyu was being so strict with him?
@@QaamansLandin my opinion was somewhat to save the pride he has on himself because maybe on his mind defeating the guy who humiliated his force would prove to himself that he is the toughest
A top 10 DBZ best quotes video would be nice.
To your question about practicing body change, I have one counter. How did Vegeta practice using a self destruct technique? It's always possible that he just intrinsically knew how, although it wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't his original body.
I am guessing the self destruct thing is just him unleasing all his ki and turning his life force into ki and kept releasing it till he had nomore
the Saibaman can do the same but instant cuz they are programmed I guess, might be some bio tech
This should have 7 million views
Reason?
@@QaamansLand I think it's an awesome idea and should be explored even further!
An interesting thing about Ginyu is that he might be nigh-immortal. Far as we know the mind/living soul doesn't age, so if his body gets old and decrepit all he needs is to change. He could be ancient even if his body doesn't have some exaggerated lifespan
I think if Ginyu could wish on the Dragonballs he would wish for being able to change places simply by thinking "Change Now" (thus you couldn't just cover his mouth to stop him) and instantly gain the skills of whatever body he takes control of
Another idea: we have no idea what the power limit is to his body swap is so he could theoretically take control of Whis with the right circumstances. However that would be fatal because we learn if an angel interferes too much they cease to exist
I still really wanna know what would happen ginyu stole a fusions body. Like what happens when the timer runs out? Does ginyu’s split somehow, does ginyu get 1 body and the other becomes brain dead? Does the fusion mentally separate in ginyus body?
What if Kefla was impregnated when she was fused? What happens to Caulifla and Kale?
@@QaamansLand identical twins with 3 sets of DNA?
Simple answer, apparently ya swap bodies with a fusion. And even if they could the person who swap would essentially would no longer exist and the defused bodies would not have a consciousness in them.
@@QaamansLand fusion probably acts as a “birth control”.
When the fusion splits ginyu's mind would be cloned and would be in both bodies while the ginyu body would now have 2 minds in it from the fusion defusing think of it like multiple personality disorder
The better question is: is that Ginyu's original body or has he been changing for a long time? Would that make him practically immortal as long as he finds someone to body change with?
How do you "practice" a body change technique? To the point where you feel confident enough to use it with experience?
@@QaamansLand a question, if Ginyu knew about ki control would be control better the bodies?
What if Ginyu knew about Frieza's transformations (since Zarbon knew) and Ginyu probably had bodies before that could also transform. What if he was waiting for Frieza to transform before taking over his body? And Frieza made the transformations weaken him to prevent attempts to body snatch him. Frieza has used his 2nd form in combat before, so it is likely Ginyu needed Frieza in order to find stronger bodies for himself, although Frieza knew this and decided to kill the opponent rather than let Ginyu have him in this instance.
Simple answer, Ginyu and Frieza are practically friends and Ginyu probably respects and likes Frieza too much even consider it. Also Frieza signs his paycheck, So there’s that too.
if ginyu did it, he'll turn the army upside down
he'll make them the best ballerina dancers squad that they'll rock the universe with their signature poses specifically the dance of joy
This is something i always thought of.
I never really thought about until recently, Ginyu is too loyal to to take over frieza's body.
He would benefit off of his natural strength but I doubt he would have tapped into the deeper depths of his potential overtime like Frieza did. Only person to do a body switch flawlessly and used it better than the original owner was Goku Black/Zamasu. I remember when people were comparing his natural potential to Broly. Though that’s a stretch he adapted very well to his vessel
So you agree then?
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If someone gives you the Dance of Joy, then you are together forever.
Think guldo was doing the psychokinetic hold in that clip. Freeza's strength is sort of natural. He probably doesnt require training like Goku 's.
The opposite might be an issue. Transforming back to conserve energy. Or managing that power.
1:49 an alien crush on frieza no way lol
Peace throughout the universe!
He'd probably struggle to transform into the other three forms frieza has outside his first which is probably the only one he ever saw him enter
I like to think Frieza made Ginyu his Top Soldier solely because of his unique ability. Someone like that could be a potential threat so how about you make them worship you instead so they never think of the idea.
And possibly getting to look for him
and have him go on missions and only be called back during emergencies
Honestly in handsight Frieza was smart
Frieza knows about Ginyu's ability, but Ginyu has another option: first take the body of someone else (like one of Frieza's underlings), then get close to Frieza and catch him off guard. Frieza's speed / reaction time would naturally depend on his form, so it'd have better chances to work if he was using his most suppressed form.
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I mean if it’s confirmed that ginyu won’t switch with cell aside from the PTSD of Cell looking like a frog but cell being WAY to cracked and won’t survive and obviously frieza is almost powerful and won’t survive neither
Where are you getting this from?
@@QaamansLandthe fighters video game
@@QaamansLanddragon ball fighterZ
A better question (one that even the wiki asks) is how he managed to survive kid buu nuking the planet, especially considering thr wish was only to revive *good* people? Did bro have some sort of revelation as a frog while on earth?
If only good people was revived there would be either world peace or fewer than even 6B people, and considering someone tried to rob Goku in Super, I'd say everyone got revived
What If Vegeta Acknowledged Cui as his Rival
@Qaaman
Huh, I was just thinking about this, and then this video shows up in my feed, just 10 minutes fresh off the oven lol
That's not time stop is a separate paralysis technique. Who knows, frieza might be able to break out of it.
I believe that he would not do that because he'd feared that freiza would kill him if he failed to pull off the body change
Ginyu is basically a sub in Dragon Ball. He is often verbally abused by Frieza and he's still loyal.
pretty sure ginyu would be able to access most of freezas strength due to two discrepancies. freezas final form is his natural form, so the likely chain of events would be body swap- brief possession of freezas first form- then his body reverts back to his natural final form because it is his default form. additionally, Goku was an outlier due to the fact that he is abnormal in his mastery of ki and supreme control of his strength. freezas strength is an inborn trait and likely something ginyu would retain.
What if, in the ssj2 Gohan vs perfect cell battle cell fires the Kamehameha away from Gohan instead of at him, like if he turned around and bombed the earth with it, I think perfect cell may have won
Is this real
Lies SMH
Ginyu letting go of Goku had nothing to do with honor it was just him making sure Goku's body wasn't damaged when he takes it.
At that point of the battle Ginyu was winning.
@QaamansLand Idk about winning I think he thought he might have the upper hand but Goku was far from showing off his abilities. I think Ginyu wanted to see how strong Goku really was as he does with every opponent to see if the person is stronger than him so he can steal their body. After all Goku did beat 3 Ginyu force members with ease and Ginyu knows about that.
Funny how Ginyu claimed that he was no2 in the universe behind Frieza despite knowing that King Cold was out there. Ginyu even worked for him before according to the 2018 movie. Frieza also made a weird statement when he faced Goku that he never thought anyone could surpass Ginyu which made no sense since Piccolo and Vegeta were much stronger than him.
Hercule Punch level over 8000 . Frieza and Ginyu are history what now!!!!!!!
Plus Ginyu would blow his cover by using them stupid Poses .
Frieza would’ve destroyed Ginyu in an INSTANT before he even had a chance
i dont think ginyu's signature move is necessarily dishonorable
What if Qaaman here today!? 🤩
I feel like ginyu stole the body of the person who taught him the technique. Which is why knows to mortality injury himself.
What if Captain Ginyu Stole Moro's body?
Personally, i think Moro would be unaffected by his soul taken out and he would just steal Ginyu's Soul during the 'change now' process and Ginyu would just drop dead
I don't think you're giving enough credit to the situation Ginyu was in when he stole Goku's body. The bulk of Goku's 180,000 power level came from the Kaio-ken, which was a technique that obviously Ginyu wasn't aware of. This resulted in him only having a power level of around 20,000 (which we can assume is about what Goku's power was without the Kaio-ken).
But Ginyu didn't have time to learn all the tricks that Goku's body was hiding, and would have certainly grown more powerful if he had time to adjust.
Similarly, while at first Ginyu wouldn't know how to transform into Frieza's other forms, it can be reasonably assumed that, like Goku Black, Ginyu would be able to unlock these abilities with time. Goku Black's advantage over Ginyu was time, which in this scenario wouldn't be weighing him down.
What about King Cold?
@@QaamansLand That depends on a lot of things that aren't clear in the manga/anime. How often do they even see each other?
Given how crafty King Cold appears to be though, I would guess that he would realize that Ginyu stole Frieza's body, feign ignorance, and then kill him when he sees an opening. The only way this would be avoided is if Ginyu was somehow stronger or was able to take the initiative in swapping bodies like he did with Frieza.
But then again, even if he swapped bodies with King Cold... he would once again be in an unfamiliar body, and unlike the swap with Frieza, King Cold would likely be able to harness more than enough of Frieza's body's power to kill him.
So in short, it doesn't look good for Ginyu if he meets King Cold.
💀 dude base goku’s power level was stated to be 90,000 in the ginyu fight in the daizenshuu and we know that goku used kaiokenx2 and obviously 90,000 x 2 = 180,000.also goku one shotted recoome who completely destroyed vegeta who’s power leve at that time was over 30,000 💀
I mean it's there a chance since freeza is technically suppressing himself that if Ginyu took his body he could maybe revert back into final form since that would in theory be his "natural" form
I mean, Frieza isn't constantly supressing himself and when Ginyu took Goku's body it was even weaker than it's base
so he'd possible be at a power level of 300 000 instead of Frieza's 1st form base and not be able to transform, especially since Frieza himself had a difficult time doing it and it took alot of strain
Ginyu is no Brutus, pretty much.
Et tu?
I think you are right that if Ginyu were to pull it off, he wouldn't be able to transform. But an interesting deep dive with no answer would be how old is Ginyu? Is he immortal as long as he changes bodies? Is his ability learned or an inherit ability that his race has like Namekian Fusion or Instant Transmission with the Yardrats?
I think the age depends on the body so yes, Ginyu can be imortal
I got a what, if scenario, what if freezer and his soldiers came to earth and gather up the earth dragon balls for immortality.
When specifically?
Frieza go to earth after Vegeta get beat up on earth, and he demand a wish from the dragon to grant him immortality.
How would that change the whole scenario, Frieza didn’t know the language on planet Namek to make that wish.
You got your own topic
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Huh? Explain
@@QaamansLand its just a bit different then the usual, it features caracthers doing "human" activities which they would never do in the show
Then cooler would of found out beat ginyu to a pulp until he changed back.
Canon?
Qaaman everybody forgets in the future Trunks arc that every z fighter dies but why couldn't Captain Ginyu use the body swap with a regular earthling and then swap for another stronger person.
Dragon ball multiverse captain ginyu
what if king cold went to namek
The honor of gyniu is not the honor of a fighter is the pride from a capitán when he battles he does alone because he represents the elite in the gyniu forcé but he is allowed to use "cheating" táctics as he dosent want to be kind He is the threat for his Powers and hax
It honestly seems it's not in Frieza's character to allow someone with such ability hear him regularly.
He killed Saiyans just because of some legend. If someone is a threat, he kills them. Ginyu is a threat. At ressurection of frieza it honestly doesn't seem like he cared of valued Ginyiu in any special way.
He don’t need guldo to freez the victim the technic it self freezes the opponent it happened with Goku and piccolo
what if ginyu switch bodies with a fused character
What if instead of wishing for the bomb out of Android 18’s body they wished for Future Gohan back??
True facts.
It would have been cool for ginyu to join forces with cell and freiza and the rest of the ginyu force and cell spit out cell Jr 's and swap bodies with the cell Jr 's
And do the namemecian fusion with all the cell Jr's as one being
Would Ginyu be able to get Frieza's body if he switched with Guldo first?
What if Zamasu believed the Hype and stole Hercules body?
from my understanding ginyu couldn't use goku's full power because he didn't know how to use the kaioken, with frieza he should be able to use the full power maybe
Ginyu didnt do it for honor , he guessed Goku's pl so he thought might as well get a good fight plus he is prideful ,he doesnt want to know he is weaker then anyone else not Frieza.
He didnt know Goku had a tehnique that could boost his power by alot .
Plus Ginyu's tehnique reminds me of the Mafuba ,if someone knows of it they can reverse with enough power. ,plus we are forgeting Frieza has pretty good telekinisis ,I doubt his mind is so easy to overtake unlike Goku who is naive and open like a book
Hey Qaaman have you came up with anything why you think Zeno isn't the god everybody think he is?
What if Ginyu stole Mr.Satan's body?
It won't work even with guldo around. It's like Jiren and hit, Frieza is to strong and would easily brake out.
I agree.
Ginyu did take king colds body but in the dragonball multiverse fan manga
Keeping in mind That i took my calculator and the power Ginyu gets from a new body is of 25% to 26% so had Ginyu took Frieza body he would absolutely get just barely stronger than his original body which is kinda pathetic but would Ginyu get Frieza potential? Would he get the training necessary to achieve his potential?
What about if Ginyu took Vegeta's body
@@QaamansLand Ginyu took vegeta body? Where? As far as i can remember was only in XenoVerse
No I meant if. Not when. How would you calculate it?
@@QaamansLand oh yes, well, if it is Vegeta after getting wrecked by Recoome i would say Just as strong as i calculated Ginyu on Frieza body or somewhat inferior because Vegeta actually could hold Frieza on First form as if he could beat him or not it's debatable but to sum up Ginyu on Vegeta body would be somewhat the same
@@Eric6761 there's a theory that Ginyu couldn't use Goku's full power because his power is built off of ki control. Meanwhile a "naturally strong" body like Tagoma was actually made stronger when Ginyu took it because his body doesn't need as much mind body connection as Goku's did. So it's possible that Ginyu would actually make Vegetas body stronger like he did to Tagoma
What if frieza became immortal
What if ginyu switched bodies with the grand priest!?
Do you think Ginyu has a Dio mindset?
A swisted view where he only steals the bodies og people who "respects" or takes interest in.
Unless he's desperate, like in super.
what if this freeza does actaully turn good
What if freeza was exactly 5cm taller?
If Ginyu had stolen Vegeta's body would he have had access to all of Vegeta's power in the Namek Saga?
As Vegeta's strength and skills may have been honed similarly to Ginyu because of both their backgrounds in the Frieza force.
If he stole frieza's body he'd be able to achieve a power level of 135,000. this is equivalent to the proportion of goku's power he was able to access when he switched. so he would still be way stronger than basically anyone else in the universe except king cold (and of course buu and beerus, etc.)
also goku would be able to beat him easily with kaioken
@@pIayingwithmahwiihow would Goku's Kaio-Ken damage him in frieza's body when he couldn't beat Frieza himself with it and ginyu's power would increase from jumping to a more powerful body, doesn't make sense
@@justinarzola4584 goku had a power level of 90,000 when he arrived on namek. kaio-ken x2 puts him at 180,000. If Ginyu switched bodies with frieza, due to the unfamiliarity he would only be able to access about a power level of 135,000. Goku's 180,000 is far above that, and that's only kaio-ken x2, goku could probably go up to x10 at this point.
idk why you're assuming ginyu would have access to frieza's 100% final form power.
@@pIayingwithmahwii it mostly depends what form of Frieza he takes over,and yeah Goku would beat him if he is in Frieza's first form,Ginyu wouldn't be able to get frieza's 100% form cause he wouldn't know how to use it properly without forcibly pushing himself to that limit when his back is against the wall, I was talking about the fourth form not the 100% since Goku's Kaio-Ken ken didn't work on Frieza in that form.
Man I would had took frezia body😂
Interesting 🤔
What if Pui Pui beat Vegeta's ass?
he'll then be light skinned ginyu
What if captain ginyu stayed in gokus body and never changed back
What If Captain Ginyu STOLE Frieza's BODY?
Huh?
Good.
That didn’t make sense why Ginyu switch body’s with frieza steal his body’s
so did the frog in Ginyu come to earth? the dragon sent people to earth ?
so is there a Ginyu on earth jumping and doing frog stuff still? the frog not Ginyu or the small frog body i mean Ginyu with the frog
so tagoma is still alive as a frog still did he not run away?
Vegeta killed him
@@QaamansLand was that Ginyu he killed?tagoma was in that small frog ?
Friza body is too small.
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@@QaamansLand I want to draw dbz art for you
Sure but you can e-mail me at qaaman94@gmail.com
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