For me, it’s the Frontier. I owned a 2020 TRD Pro 4R for 2 years, sold it last month to a friend. I wanted a Tacoma, always have…until I got in one. Actually, I drove 4 over one month… Exterior is a 10. Interior is a 5, and seat comfort is a 2. Transmission was a little weird at parking lot speeds. I drove the Frontier once. I was sold. Frontier looks and feels awesome inside and out, and seat comfort is perfect. Quiet and refined ride and Fender audio rocks. I’ve never owned a Nissan before, so I leased a 23 Pro-4X with all 3pkgs and it’s great. In 18 months, if it’s been reliable and I still like it, I’ll buy one.
@@pagodad8079 Nissan is running an 18mo lease deal. My particular truck was $47,500(ish), 10kmi with $1,999 (plus fees and 1st payment, $2,700ish) and payment is $365.
I'm a stocky guy and having sat in both, front and rear, I will say 100% the Nissan has much more comfortable seats and a bit more leg room in both the front and rear.
I've had my '22 Pro 4X for over a year now and it's really good in many, many ways. I'm out of a 4Runner (and still crave it sometimes) and really wouldn't be happier with a Tacoma, especially ofr the price they want for it...
I had the 2020 Ranger XLT and traded it in on a 2022 PRO-4X. Nicest truck on the market. I got the Frontier and a Pathfinder Platinum for the Wife. They are my 13th & 14th Nissans.
Frontier for the win…. The majority of buyers will never use a TRD Pro to its maximum capability. It will be great to do another comparison when the redesigned Tacoma is available. I wish these trucks had more payload capacity. Thanks Ben!!!!!
Frontier for the loss actually. Tacoma will still outsell it and in general, by the time a typical Frontier hits the crusher via being plagued by too many electrical and other quality control issues, the more simple Tacoma will still be on the road. THIS is why they outsell everybody. Reputation matters.
Yea, and since they already have one from the Z and the last Frontier, I don't understand why they deleted it. Their manual transmissions are excellent. My 87 Hardbody has its original one. Seems so unlike Nissan to not offer the stick. No one at Nissan can tell me why they did this.
Frontier beats the Tacoma in every important head to head. You name it. Yes including reliability, those C-channel frames in the Tacoma rust and rot, unlike the Frontiers fully boxed frame, which is nuke proof. -Frontier 310HP > Tacoma 278HP -Frontier Torque 281 lb-ft >Tacoma 265 lb ft -Frontier Full Boxed Frame >Tacoma C-Channel Frame -Frontier Disc Brakes > Tacoma Drum Brakes Frontier has a premium interior, ride, transmission, seating, head room, materials/fit & finish, more safety features, better crash test, spray-in bed liner, the list goes on and on…not to mention styling, especially in the Pro-4X.
Do you still have it? If so do you still like it, have you had to do any major maintenance or things that you don't like in general? I'm strongly considering picking up a used Baja color 2023 frontier pro 4x with 56k miles on it for 35k
@fearandsmoking i had it in baja storm pro X..I traded it in for a 2023 ram. I needed more room because of my job. I still miss my frontier. It would be a good pickup for you
I would buy a frontier, but not enough room in the back for car seats. Please Nissan, bring back the Xterra based on frontier styling and give it a 6 speed manual!
I have a 14 p4x and love it. Zero issues in 9 years. I raced a 18 taco and smoked him and we were the same off road. A set of K02 and your doing great.
I'm still trying to wear out my 1998 Tacoma SR5 manual trans 4x w a split bench seat, so maybe in another 10 years, I can entertain a new truck choice.
The frontier pro4x competes with the Tacoma TRD off-road package not trdpro. The frontier beats Tacoma in pretty much everything if you compare them properly.
Both trucks are sharp. Both trucks are solid. I would pick the Frontier Pro4X even against the TRD Off-Road Premium. I prefer the power train/transmission combo and the more modern amenities of the Frontier. But, I’d still be plenty happy with the Toyota!
My friend has that same exact Frontier truck.. I have a 2017 Toyota TRD Tacoma that I bought new. I've got 265,000 Mi on it and still running. Never had to take it to the dealership. My friend the other hand has took in his Frontier back to Nissan for several issues. I just think everyone should know this before they make a decision.
There’s no denying Toyota quality but Nissan is right up there. My experience with my 2008 frontier pro- 4X had it 10 years 430 K (267 miles) and now my son is driving it other than maintenance no issues.
@2011buddylee sorry buddy but you have your opinion and I have mine don't give me no BS. I'm not lying don't bite off morning you can chew. I don't normally get on here but I'm calling it like I see. You don't like what I say look elsewhere buddy.
@@2011buddylee you must be the unluckiest guy on the planet. My neighbour has a 2010 Tacoma with 400,000 km and he swears by it. My brother-in-law is a licensed mechanic with his own garage and he just bought one because he says those 3.5 6s are literally bulletproof. Having said that I would choose the frontier based on technology and the way it drives.
@@charlesbellino4359 there is exceptions to the rule always but Toyota vehicles in general, are the most reliable vehicles on the road, and the Tacoma has always been known for its reliability. Your experience is your experience, but it’s definitely not the norm and that’s based on numerous publications, long term tests and owner reported problems.
I love the aesthetics of the Frontier a lot more. They’re both amazing rigs but the comfort in a Tacoma TRD is the worst in class. As long as the Frontiers gravity seats are more comfy, it’ll check off more boxes for me.
In spite of the fact ground clearance is the same, the Toyota looks taller, more muscular, and aggressive. The Frontier just looks a bit bland and boxy in comparison. Under the sheet metal and inside the cab, everything else about the Frontier is way more modern. I just wish it (Frontier) looked more aggressive. That being said...until Toyota updates that truck, I'm leaning a tad bit toward the Frontier. I think. Lol.
Tacoma was the way to go for me. Very similar other than the Frontier feeling more powerful and responsive. Too close to take a chance on the Frontier though for me. Tacoma resale and proven durability was all it took for me. I've owned a last gen Frontier and it was a very good truck and an excellent bad weather on road vehicle but when I sold it low mileage and mint condition it didn't retain its value as well.
When you pay 6K more for a tacoma, that 6K can buy lots of accessories for a Frontier. I just use my Pro4X Frontier for everyday use. I am for comfort, but want the off road capability being that I live in the mountains. If I was into going off road as a recreational sport, I'd buy a used Willies jeep.
I HAVE THE 2023 NISSAN FRONTIER AND I LOVE HER. IT'S SUCH AN ELEGANT TRUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M AN X-TERRA GIRL, AND DECIDED TO GET THE PRO4 NISSAN FRONTIER, SINCE THEY STOPPED SELLING "MY HUSBAND", THE X-TERRA !!!!!!!!!
BEN ..when you say both engines are super reliable reference the Frontier you are relying on the older engine for that opinion. The new direct injection engine in the Frontier has yet to be tested in the long term. It came out in 2020 and I've still been unable to reference one that has 100K on to see how it is faring. REMEMBER the Titan was reliable too but changed to DI and they are having issues. Why does no reviewer put this critical information in their videos?
Had the taco for 8 months, cracked the bed loading my firewood couldn't get to the wood pile in the snow,so uncomfortable under powered over priced garbage. Bought it because family members and people rave about them,crap. Worst pickup I ever had and I have been blessed to have them all. Had 3 titan pro4x all great trucks,just don't need a fullsized anymore and gas is a bit better in the frontier. I just leased the frontier pro4x. Nissan trucks are true American made truck by Americans!!! The big 3 can kiss my butt!!! I helped make them rich and most of them are made or assembled outside our nation. And the frontier and titan run forever. My father inlaw who swares by the taco had his frame buckle in half at the bed,crap truck. Not even 100,000 miles on it. I put 50,000 on my jeep gladiator Rubicon in one year ,that truck is an awesome beast. Expensive but it is the king of the midsized off road pickups. Had a manual in mine and spine operations just made it to hard to drive and get in and out of. But it your a young strong buck and have a good job the gladiator is your off road pickup monster,period. Then I would go with the frontier, ranger,dakotas were awsome had 2 of them with the 4.7 magnum engine,miss those trucks. Have not bought a gm product since the government bailout and everything going to Mexico on the back of our tax payers. Sold my hummer and avalanche as soon as that took place so gm doesn't even get my consideration. Had 2 Ridgelines the old body and new they are solid little trucks very versatile and great for hauling tons of stuff for ice hockey tournaments.
Have a 22 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X. Test drove the Tacoma. I really wanted the Toyota but it didn’t feel as good as the Nissan. Also. Need to pay attention to what your insurance will be. The Toyota was going to be much more expensive. That was the final decision. Cost less overall.
2020 Pro4x. New Engine and Tranny, Old style look crew cab with roof rack, 5 foot bed, Black with all the decals! Instant classic!!! There are many like this, but this one is mine!
Nismo has upgraded billstien leveling kit and shocks as well as wheels & exhaust for the frontier which would be more accurate to compare with trd pro the Nissan as equipped would be closer to the regular trd & the nismo options would compare to TRD pro in terms of capabilities & price
I would definitely go with the Nissan over the Toyota, overall better value for the money more horsepower better transmission, and in my personal opinion, the interior of the Nissan is way nicer. I love the leather and the heated steering wheel is a nice little touch. And I could always change out the shocks if I wanted to me personally, I would keep the stock shocks. They’re actually pretty nice shocks. You definitely can’t compare them to Fox. Nice truck review.
It’ll be the last Tacoma with a N/A v6. Next gen will most likely be a turbo 4cylinder or hybrid. For at home mechanics like me, we prefer easier more reliable stuff lol
@@christ2054 right but even if you specifically want the 2023 version you’ve got to wait at least until they announce the new 2024. As soon as it’s out there the 2023 and prior models will be cheaper.
Funny you mentioned that you would keep the Toyota stock, but would feel inclined to lift the nissan. I came from a stock 4runner with 285 tires to a Frontier. Immediately lifted it 2.5 inches and put 285's on it. Now it feels like right, and looks right. You called it there!
Help wanted* I’m torn between three trucks 2023 Toyota trd off road 32k miles for 37k 2024 nissan frontier pro 4 x brand new for 39k 2017 ford raptor 100k miles (cam phasers replaced) for 37k Can’t make my mind up It will be a daily commuter as well as some light off roading throughout the year in hunting properties. The reason I like the raptor is because it’s a dream truck, and I think it would be great for road trips which I do once or twice a month. But I very much prioritize reliability
I about bought a 2023 Tacoma trd pro in this solar sunburst color but just could not pull the trigger to pay the 5 grand markup that the Toyota dealer wanted which would have brought the out tge door price up to 58,500.00. Just could not bring myself to sign the finance paperwork. That was just too much to pay for a mid size truck. Would rather go up to pay 53 to 54 grand for a new 2023 gmc canyon AT4 or go up and pay 56 to 57 grand for a Canyon AT4x to get the additional front locking differential.
Frontier all the way. I love the new look, and the seats and placement are much better than the tacomas. The frontier is more powerful yet gets the same MPG with a transmission that isn't searching for gears like the Tacomas. I mean, 6 speed is just too outdated. Who wants to pay 52k+ for a truck that struggles to find gears going uphill or downhill?? Sure the tacoma has a better offroad setup, but are you really gonna do all that much off-roading?? Come on now, this is a no brainer, in my opinion.
The Tacoma trd pro has a lift should use that model. You mentioned no comparison to fox shocks, etc...You should have compared the Tacoma trd off road and the Frontier pro4x they both have bilstein shocks. Plus used lunar rock ,not flamo orange vs sand color. Toyota does need to upgrade their Tacoma design. Point taken..thanks for the video.
We are a family/extended family of 16 Nissans. Including MY 2023 Frontier ! I have one son-inlaw that's still driving a Ford. But we've made it clear that Will change this summer lol. We've tried all of Nissans competition when car/truck/suv shopping. Nothing American comes close, and Toyota's are " ok " but meh.
The more I look at the Tacoma, I start to see something that looks like an updated Ram Dakota concept. I can place my finger over Toyota in the grill and totally see “RAM” in its place. Tail lights look that way too.
I would like to see you reviewing the back seat space as well, as it’s an important criteria for a lot of people. Probably move the drivers seat position suitable for at least a 6 foot tall person and then show us the space behind the drivers seat and how comfortable can a person seat.
I’ve had both, currently own a brand new frontier pro 4x with all the goodies. I’ve owned 2 tacomas a manual 6 speed 2019 Trd sport Tacoma, the trans gears are to tall even in the manual. Engine made it not fun to drive a manual too much revving. and in my 2017 auto trd off road Tacoma the engine would rev all the way up to 4K just to pass some hills in cruise. The frontier is definitely nicer inside. Rides good has double pane glass, keeps noise down. Just feels more premium. Trd pro tacomas are nice but they need a better engine trans combo. I got my fully loaded 2023 frontier pro 4x for 48k. Close to 60 for a fully loaded tacoma!
I have this exact TRD PRO but with a higher lift on 17” method rims with 33” Goodrich mud terrain tires. Nothing beats the approach angle on that Tacoma. The Tacoma TRD Pro is better for off Roading hands down. Tacoma is also more narrow than the Nissan, making it easier for the Tacoma to hit the trails. Toyota also has won many Baja races! And well the reliability of Toyota and resale value is one of the best in the industry. I would choose Nissan if I was going around town and doing light off-Roading.
Seeing how its now 2024, I plan to buy a 22' or 23' Pro4x for around $35k with no more than 20k miles on it. And use those savings to get a 3" lift and slap some 34" tires on. Will still come under the cost of the higher trim levels of newest tacoma and will look and perform better.
Frontier for me. You get a lot more features and safety features for the lesser price. Frontier literally beat out the Tacoma in almost every category. Toyota up charges their vehicles too much
Ok man dude every time lately I think to myself man it would be cool if he compared these two then the next day boom lol there’s a video of it thanks Ben!
Very excited that my 2021 tacoma lease ends this may. Honestly nothing sold it for me. Long road trips were so uncomfortable, power sucks and that hunting gear issue never went away. The only thing I liked about the taco was the looks. Everything else was eh to okay at best. Never excelled in anything. Gonna be switching to a Nissan soon and will see what happens!
I own a 2019 Taco and would never trade in the reliability of a Toyota for that if a Nissan. Yes nissan may look better and drive better but the reliability is significantly better in the taco.
Frontier trucks reliability is awesome! These trucks have always been very reliable. Just like the Titan. Very underrated trucks overall, specially the Titan
@James Francis - I recently was looking at both and have always been a Honda guy/Toyota pickup enthusiast. I was shocked to find out that afternoon the 2007 transmission issues in the frontiers, they actually have better reliability ratings then the tacos. Shocking😮…I know lol. Not sure if I’d trust the motor/trans to 250k like the Toyota…but who know.
You're repeating an old mantra, not based in reality. Nissan Frontier and Hardbody have legendary reliability if you talk to OWNERS, not media folklore. See the Million Mile Frontier on the TFL truck channel. This is not a unicorn. People need to learn to do personal research instead of believing popular opinion. You probably never heard the suppressed truth of all the rustedvout frames Toyota had. Frames are very important to reliability.
Both are nice trucks. I would buy the Frontier since it's new heard doesn't have a good value if that's true still a nice truck love the new looks. Nissan is doing amazing job they weren't updated their lineups at one time now getting with the game wish Nissan would bring back the Xterra imagine how it would look bet all rugged their new lineups are nice even quality is coming back they aren't bad cars at all just make auto trannies in most of them as CVT has improved would recommend using 6 or 9 speed automatic transmission in Sentra or Altima upgraded trim models.
I have had both the Toyota Trd off road and Nissan Frontier pro 4x! I think the Nissan Frontier pro 4x is a much better vehicle it a better interior not so tinny sounding body just all around better vehicle in my thoughts
Not sure I understand your comment at the end. Why would you need bigger tires on the frontier and a lift when it’s already as high as the Tacoma, and already has bigger tires than the Tacoma. You wouldn’t need to do that with the Tacoma?
@@BenHardyCars it’s a 17 inch rim versus a 16 inch rim. The overall tire diameter has got to be at least as big if not bigger. I don’t think Nissan is putting rubber bands on their truck wheels.
Yeah… it was confusing and didn’t make any sense to me. I guess he can’t or doesn’t want say which he prefers to avoid any issues getting future cars with Nissan or Toyota.
@@beexiong2995 that’s a matter of opinion, but regardless, it isn’t any lower. Some people like trucks 10 feet off the ground. Personally I think the ride height of the Tacoma and the pro 4 Frontier is perfect.
Looks are a draw. But the Frontier wins on transmission and engine. The Tacoma feels like a 20 year old truck. It is NOT smooth at all but it does have a nicer bed.
How do they feel sitting behind the wheel? My dad's old Toyota always felt like you were sitting on the floorboards to me. Do they still feel like that, how about the Nissan? I much prefer feeling like I'm sitting up in a chair vs on the floor. Thanks for the comparison.
Back in 06' I wanted an toyota xrunner. Got to the local dealer and mildly test drove it... salesperson didn't want me to push it?? Whatever but gave it a go and was not impressed. Went in to do the paperwork and after an hour sales guy said it was already sold (last one). Bummed and upset we headed home. On our way the wife said let's go see the new nissan lot but I was not interested. Got there, walked the lot and didn't like the look of the frontier, sales guy asked and I said meh just looking. He asked so I said a truck. He asked color, trans etc so I said black and manual. He came back to rest drive with a 4dr 2wd 6speed manual frontier se. Soon as we got off the lot I punched it and boy was I super surprised! Damn thing was way stronger than the 6speed 2wd ex cab toyota xrunner... I was sold. Here in the islands everyone is a touota and chevy nut hugging lover. Well I share my story about Frontiers and Ford F150s. I have a work truck frontier which my son will now use for work and just got a 2nd Ford f150 twin turbo for work. I'll always choose a frontier over tacoma and a Ford F150 over everything.
I have a ‘22 TRD pro which I bought after my prior 2006 Tacoma finally gave up the ghost after 17 years and 320,000 miles. Both the trucks in this video are great, but before my previous Tacoma I had a pathfinder and then two Xterras and they all gave me a lot of problems and none made it past 170,000 miles. Also Nissan service was always a headache compared to toyota. Not sure if things have changed since then but that a what drove most of my decision making to get another Tacoma = better service and reliability. I will say that my current TRD pros transmission/power are disappointing compared to my previous Tacoma. Everything anyone says about the Tacoma hunting for gears on the highway is exactly right.
Id take the Tacoma TRD OR over the Frontier. Dual fuel injection for one, new engine in the Nissan makes me question its longevity, especially with direct injection only. Had a 17 TRD OR and it def had its quirks. Just like any vehicle, they seem to all have imperfections. Resale value goes to Taco all day. Better warranty with Nissan.
Been thinking of which truck to get when i get my license and use as a daily driver. I've always wanted a Tacoma but most of my family drives Nissans, so its kinda hard to choose. I like the look of the Tacoma (especially in that beautiful color), but the reliability of the Frontier is, from what I've researched, the better choice. Ugh, so hard to choose!
Frontier way better in comfort and every day livability. Tacoma is trash! Been riding that "reliability" coat tails for too long! Even if it is, they are so uncomfortable to be in for any length of time. Why would someone want that? 😕
@@christ2054New Tundra is an abomination in the looks department, especially the nasty grill. And they are already showing up at dealers with blown engines as well as turbo issues that are CAB-OFF for repairs. What junk.
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport. I am thinking about trading it in for a 2023 PRO4X. I don't drive off road. The Tacoma is noisy on the highway and the transmission isn't smooth. And the Frontier is only 45k fully loaded. Is it a good decision? Thanks
Basically the lowest point which is the rear pumpkin is about the same height. Everything else is higher in the Tacoma which is why it looks and is higher.
Not a big fan of that open front area on the Frontier that shows radiator fins exposed to possible damage from flying debris kicked up by other vehicles while driving. Even a fair sized twig jamming into that opening could possibly do some damage. Of course... It's all MAYBE... but why does it have to be exposed in the first place? Does it need that much more air cooling? Overheating issues solution? Hmmmm... Please correct me if I'm wrong. At least the Tacoma is better protected from the looks of things.
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I hope everyone in the comment section owns their dream car one day.
thanks brother, i already do!
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For me, it’s the Frontier. I owned a 2020 TRD Pro 4R for 2 years, sold it last month to a friend. I wanted a Tacoma, always have…until I got in one. Actually, I drove 4 over one month… Exterior is a 10. Interior is a 5, and seat comfort is a 2. Transmission was a little weird at parking lot speeds. I drove the Frontier once. I was sold. Frontier looks and feels awesome inside and out, and seat comfort is perfect. Quiet and refined ride and Fender audio rocks. I’ve never owned a Nissan before, so I leased a 23 Pro-4X with all 3pkgs and it’s great. In 18 months, if it’s been reliable and I still like it, I’ll buy one.
What kind of payments do you have? 10k per year? Cash down?
@@pagodad8079 Nissan is running an 18mo lease deal. My particular truck was $47,500(ish), 10kmi with $1,999 (plus fees and 1st payment, $2,700ish) and payment is $365.
Toyota is better 🤷🏻♂️
@@chanoleyva ur mom is better
@@axellness hey I think the Nissan is on sale at the dealership by your moms house
I'm a stocky guy and having sat in both, front and rear, I will say 100% the Nissan has much more comfortable seats and a bit more leg room in both the front and rear.
Now this is the comparison I've been waiting on! I love both these trucks, but I've had my eye on the new Frontier for a while.
Me too. Picking mine up in four days. Excited. Did add a two inch lift and 33 inch wheels.
I've had my '22 Pro 4X for over a year now and it's really good in many, many ways. I'm out of a 4Runner (and still crave it sometimes) and really wouldn't be happier with a Tacoma, especially ofr the price they want for it...
I bought the ‘23 Frontier Pro-4X after looking at the Toyota first. I’m so glad I got the Frontier. Great review!
How do you like it so far? I'm considering a 23 pro4x
I had the 2020 Ranger XLT and traded it in on a 2022 PRO-4X. Nicest truck on the market. I got the Frontier and a Pathfinder Platinum for the Wife. They are my 13th & 14th Nissans.
Hilarious I just got my pathfinder platinum and I’m waiting for my frontier. My dad will be trading his 2017 Tacoma for the frontier.
I owned 2 Nissan 300ZX before. They were really good. I missed them.
So much for all the BS about Nissan being "unreliable." I've been driving them since I was 10, and I am 58 now.
@@jeanclaude7018they are unreliable. But that does not apply to the trucks and truck based suvs.
@@rockyshoresstudios4987 Father knows best.
Frontier for the win…. The majority of buyers will never use a TRD Pro to its maximum capability. It will be great to do another comparison when the redesigned Tacoma is available. I wish these trucks had more payload capacity. Thanks Ben!!!!!
Frontier for the loss actually. Tacoma will still outsell it and in general, by the time a typical Frontier hits the crusher via being plagued by too many electrical and other quality control issues, the more simple Tacoma will still be on the road. THIS is why they outsell everybody. Reputation matters.
I recently started liking Toyota after liking Ford all my life even though I will never fully giving up Ford
@@Doomzdayxx just like apple. Over priced. Simple.
@@n0xxm3rcyxx Everything is overpriced
@@Doomzdayxx 100% its sad because i was looking to upgrading my little 1999 sonoma sls. guess that wont happen anytime soon.
Nissan needs to bring back the option of a 6 speed manual and the frontier will be unstoppable.
Yea, and since they already have one from the Z and the last Frontier, I don't understand why they deleted it. Their manual transmissions are excellent. My 87 Hardbody has its original one.
Seems so unlike Nissan to not offer the stick. No one at Nissan can tell me why they did this.
Had a Tacoma for a week felt like i was sitting on the floor ..took it back and took a new Pro4x and loving it
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Frontier beats the Tacoma in every important head to head. You name it. Yes including reliability, those C-channel frames in the Tacoma rust and rot, unlike the Frontiers fully boxed frame, which is nuke proof.
-Frontier 310HP > Tacoma 278HP
-Frontier Torque 281 lb-ft >Tacoma 265 lb ft
-Frontier Full Boxed Frame >Tacoma C-Channel Frame
-Frontier Disc Brakes > Tacoma Drum Brakes
Frontier has a premium interior, ride, transmission, seating, head room, materials/fit & finish, more safety features, better crash test, spray-in bed liner, the list goes on and on…not to mention styling, especially in the Pro-4X.
I have this same frontier and color and I love it. I think frontier should do a warrior edition trim. So it could compete against the TRD and ZR2..
Pro 4x is all need.
Do you still have it? If so do you still like it, have you had to do any major maintenance or things that you don't like in general? I'm strongly considering picking up a used Baja color 2023 frontier pro 4x with 56k miles on it for 35k
@fearandsmoking i had it in baja storm pro X..I traded it in for a 2023 ram. I needed more room because of my job. I still miss my frontier. It would be a good pickup for you
I would buy a frontier, but not enough room in the back for car seats. Please Nissan, bring back the Xterra based on frontier styling and give it a 6 speed manual!
Both of these are really tight in the back seat.
I hope your words will be heard about the Xterra. I will hold on to my 2015 Xterra Pro-4X till the last engine spin
I have a 14 p4x and love it. Zero issues in 9 years. I raced a 18 taco and smoked him and we were the same off road. A set of K02 and your doing great.
Excellent
You do an outstanding job reviewing vehicles. Thanks Ben.
I'm still trying to wear out my 1998 Tacoma SR5 manual trans 4x w a split bench seat, so maybe in another 10 years, I can entertain a new truck choice.
Ben out of these two, i would be going nissan for sure. I feel like its just all around a better value.
The frontier pro4x competes with the Tacoma TRD off-road package not trdpro. The frontier beats Tacoma in pretty much everything if you compare them properly.
Both trucks are sharp. Both trucks are solid. I would pick the Frontier Pro4X even against the TRD Off-Road Premium. I prefer the power train/transmission combo and the more modern amenities of the Frontier. But, I’d still be plenty happy with the Toyota!
They literally have the same power, Nissan is for brokies
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You trolling right?!
@@Proteanlife the Nissan has a little more power but with some mods and a tune the Toyota will make better more reliable power 🤷🏻♂️
@@Proteanlife not to mention aftermarket support definitely trends for the Toyota, have fun being in a subpar vehicle there’s a reason it’s cheaper 👍🏼
Nissan is for Brokies? LOL
what a stupid thing to say when you’re comparing this with Toyota.
My friend has that same exact Frontier truck.. I have a 2017 Toyota TRD Tacoma that I bought new. I've got 265,000 Mi on it and still running. Never had to take it to the dealership. My friend the other hand has took in his Frontier back to Nissan for several issues. I just think everyone should know this before they make a decision.
There’s no denying Toyota quality but Nissan is right up there. My experience with my 2008 frontier pro- 4X had it 10 years 430 K (267 miles) and now my son is driving it other than maintenance no issues.
@2011buddylee sorry buddy but you have your opinion and I have mine don't give me no BS. I'm not lying don't bite off morning you can chew. I don't normally get on here but I'm calling it like I see. You don't like what I say look elsewhere buddy.
@@2011buddylee you must be the unluckiest guy on the planet. My neighbour has a 2010 Tacoma with 400,000 km and he swears by it. My brother-in-law is a licensed mechanic with his own garage and he just bought one because he says those 3.5 6s are literally bulletproof. Having said that I would choose the frontier based on technology and the way it drives.
@@charlesbellino4359 there is exceptions to the rule always but Toyota vehicles in general, are the most reliable vehicles on the road, and the Tacoma has always been known for its reliability. Your experience is your experience, but it’s definitely not the norm and that’s based on numerous publications, long term tests and owner reported problems.
@@deancm9302 you have not told me anything I don't know thanks though
I love the aesthetics of the Frontier a lot more. They’re both amazing rigs but the comfort in a Tacoma TRD is the worst in class. As long as the Frontiers gravity seats are more comfy, it’ll check off more boxes for me.
Just bought the 23 pro 4x and I am beyond impressed with it.
I have a tacoma now, used to have a titan..I like this frontier!!
I lifted my frontier did a Titan swap on my 2022 4 inch lift from ADO it looks a million times better then a Tacoma !
In spite of the fact ground clearance is the same, the Toyota looks taller, more muscular, and aggressive. The Frontier just looks a bit bland and boxy in comparison. Under the sheet metal and inside the cab, everything else about the Frontier is way more modern. I just wish it (Frontier) looked more aggressive. That being said...until Toyota updates that truck, I'm leaning a tad bit toward the Frontier. I think. Lol.
Tacoma was the way to go for me. Very similar other than the Frontier feeling more powerful and responsive. Too close to take a chance on the Frontier though for me. Tacoma resale and proven durability was all it took for me. I've owned a last gen Frontier and it was a very good truck and an excellent bad weather on road vehicle but when I sold it low mileage and mint condition it didn't retain its value as well.
The Direct Injection only on the Frontier can be an issue in the future
How big of a difference is the resale?@@oneskillpoint4669
When you pay 6K more for a tacoma, that 6K can buy lots of accessories for a Frontier. I just use my Pro4X Frontier for everyday use. I am for comfort, but want the off road capability being that I live in the mountains. If I was into going off road as a recreational sport, I'd buy a used Willies jeep.
The frontier wins in the look and design plus horse power, it’s an overall cool truck
I HAVE THE 2023 NISSAN FRONTIER AND I LOVE HER. IT'S SUCH AN ELEGANT TRUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M AN X-TERRA GIRL, AND DECIDED TO GET THE PRO4 NISSAN FRONTIER, SINCE THEY STOPPED SELLING "MY HUSBAND", THE X-TERRA !!!!!!!!!
The two best midsize trucks on the market
BEN ..when you say both engines are super reliable reference the Frontier you are relying on the older engine for that opinion. The new direct injection engine in the Frontier has yet to be tested in the long term. It came out in 2020 and I've still been unable to reference one that has 100K on to see how it is faring. REMEMBER the Titan was reliable too but changed to DI and they are having issues. Why does no reviewer put this critical information in their videos?
Had the taco for 8 months, cracked the bed loading my firewood couldn't get to the wood pile in the snow,so uncomfortable under powered over priced garbage. Bought it because family members and people rave about them,crap. Worst pickup I ever had and I have been blessed to have them all. Had 3 titan pro4x all great trucks,just don't need a fullsized anymore and gas is a bit better in the frontier. I just leased the frontier pro4x. Nissan trucks are true American made truck by Americans!!! The big 3 can kiss my butt!!! I helped make them rich and most of them are made or assembled outside our nation. And the frontier and titan run forever. My father inlaw who swares by the taco had his frame buckle in half at the bed,crap truck. Not even 100,000 miles on it. I put 50,000 on my jeep gladiator Rubicon in one year ,that truck is an awesome beast. Expensive but it is the king of the midsized off road pickups. Had a manual in mine and spine operations just made it to hard to drive and get in and out of. But it your a young strong buck and have a good job the gladiator is your off road pickup monster,period. Then I would go with the frontier, ranger,dakotas were awsome had 2 of them with the 4.7 magnum engine,miss those trucks. Have not bought a gm product since the government bailout and everything going to Mexico on the back of our tax payers. Sold my hummer and avalanche as soon as that took place so gm doesn't even get my consideration. Had 2 Ridgelines the old body and new they are solid little trucks very versatile and great for hauling tons of stuff for ice hockey tournaments.
I looked at both and ended up buying the Pro-4X. More room, more engine, more gears and better value.
I gree but the only difference between these 2 is the resale value imo.
@@laogia69 Most enthusiasts don't buy a car worrying about how much they can sell it for later. They buy it to enjoy it.
@@SylasGyou do when you trade it in and Taco looks way better
Have a 22 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X. Test drove the Tacoma. I really wanted the Toyota but it didn’t feel as good as the Nissan. Also. Need to pay attention to what your insurance will be. The Toyota was going to be much more expensive. That was the final decision. Cost less overall.
I would buy Frontier all day over Tacoma, it looks better in and out and it drives better
Agreed 💯
Taco Pro looks way better and retain 60% their value. To each his own:)
Frontier with the solar octane paint would be perfect. I do love the front end of the Toyota though.
I like the Nissan
2020 Pro4x. New Engine and Tranny, Old style look crew cab with roof rack, 5 foot bed, Black with all the decals! Instant classic!!! There are many like this, but this one is mine!
Nismo has upgraded billstien leveling kit and shocks as well as wheels & exhaust for the frontier which would be more accurate to compare with trd pro the Nissan as equipped would be closer to the regular trd & the nismo options would compare to TRD pro in terms of capabilities & price
I would definitely go with the Nissan over the Toyota, overall better value for the money more horsepower better transmission, and in my personal opinion, the interior of the Nissan is way nicer. I love the leather and the heated steering wheel is a nice little touch. And I could always change out the shocks if I wanted to me personally, I would keep the stock shocks. They’re actually pretty nice shocks. You definitely can’t compare them to Fox. Nice truck review.
I have the 22 frontier and the transmission isn’t impressive and feels like it won’t last past 150k miles
As much as I like a Taco, why would anyone consider buying a 2023 Tacoma when the new version comes out next year.
Old school reliability that's why!
It’ll be the last Tacoma with a N/A v6. Next gen will most likely be a turbo 4cylinder or hybrid. For at home mechanics like me, we prefer easier more reliable stuff lol
@@christ2054 right but even if you specifically want the 2023 version you’ve got to wait at least until they announce the new 2024. As soon as it’s out there the 2023 and prior models will be cheaper.
@@worksjo yeah true and you could also make a for sure decision once you know what’s next
Not sure, looking forward to getting rid of my 2020 trd or. Thing is a sluggish uncomfortable snail.
The Frontier is single handedly keeping Nissan in business
Funny you mentioned that you would keep the Toyota stock, but would feel inclined to lift the nissan. I came from a stock 4runner with 285 tires to a Frontier. Immediately lifted it 2.5 inches and put 285's on it. Now it feels like right, and looks right. You called it there!
I love Toyota but this Frontier is something else.
Frontier for sure
Help wanted*
I’m torn between three trucks
2023 Toyota trd off road 32k miles for 37k
2024 nissan frontier pro 4 x brand new for 39k
2017 ford raptor 100k miles (cam phasers replaced) for 37k
Can’t make my mind up
It will be a daily commuter as well as some light off roading throughout the year in hunting properties. The reason I like the raptor is because it’s a dream truck, and I think it would be great for road trips which I do once or twice a month. But I very much prioritize reliability
I about bought a 2023 Tacoma trd pro in this solar sunburst color but just could not pull the trigger to pay the 5 grand markup that the Toyota dealer wanted which would have brought the out tge door price up to 58,500.00. Just could not bring myself to sign the finance paperwork. That was just too much to pay for a mid size truck.
Would rather go up to pay 53 to 54 grand for a new 2023 gmc canyon AT4 or go up and pay 56 to 57 grand for a Canyon AT4x to get the additional front locking differential.
Frontier all the way. I love the new look, and the seats and placement are much better than the tacomas. The frontier is more powerful yet gets the same MPG with a transmission that isn't searching for gears like the Tacomas. I mean, 6 speed is just too outdated. Who wants to pay 52k+ for a truck that struggles to find gears going uphill or downhill?? Sure the tacoma has a better offroad setup, but are you really gonna do all that much off-roading?? Come on now, this is a no brainer, in my opinion.
The Tacoma trd pro has a lift should use that model. You mentioned no comparison to fox shocks, etc...You should have compared the Tacoma trd off road and the Frontier pro4x they both have bilstein shocks. Plus used lunar rock ,not flamo orange vs sand color. Toyota does need to upgrade their Tacoma design. Point taken..thanks for the video.
We are a family/extended family of 16 Nissans. Including MY 2023 Frontier ! I have one son-inlaw that's still driving a Ford. But we've made it clear that Will change this summer lol. We've tried all of Nissans competition when car/truck/suv shopping. Nothing American comes close, and Toyota's are " ok " but meh.
The more I look at the Tacoma, I start to see something that looks like an updated Ram Dakota concept. I can place my finger over Toyota in the grill and totally see “RAM” in its place. Tail lights look that way too.
What ya smoking. Lol
I appreciate all your work in 2022 Ben. Very useful information for all who are in the market. Now stay inside dude it's cold!!
Staying inside is boring🥸
I can't look past resale value when I buy something and Tacoma will always win that
Not really since you are paying Toyota tax upfront you are just getting your money back lol
Tacoma resale is not the greatest.
FYI, Frontier just edged past Taco in resale retention! You CAN'T just keep beating the old drum that "Toyota is always the best at all times."
I would like to see you reviewing the back seat space as well, as it’s an important criteria for a lot of people. Probably move the drivers seat position suitable for at least a 6 foot tall person and then show us the space behind the drivers seat and how comfortable can a person seat.
The nissan has an upright rear seat. Not good
Merry Christmas & happy holidays to you and your family Ben. Thank you for all you do my friend . 🙏✝️🎄
I’ve had both, currently own a brand new frontier pro 4x with all the goodies.
I’ve owned 2 tacomas a manual 6 speed 2019 Trd sport Tacoma, the trans gears are to tall even in the manual. Engine made it not fun to drive a manual too much revving.
and in my 2017 auto trd off road Tacoma the engine would rev all the way up to 4K just to pass some hills in cruise.
The frontier is definitely nicer inside. Rides good has double pane glass, keeps noise down. Just feels more premium.
Trd pro tacomas are nice but they need a better engine trans combo.
I got my fully loaded 2023 frontier pro 4x for 48k.
Close to 60 for a fully loaded tacoma!
I have this exact TRD PRO but with a higher lift on 17” method rims with 33” Goodrich mud terrain tires. Nothing beats the approach angle on that Tacoma. The Tacoma TRD Pro is better for off Roading hands down. Tacoma is also more narrow than the Nissan, making it easier for the Tacoma to hit the trails. Toyota also has won many Baja races! And well the reliability of Toyota and resale value is one of the best in the industry. I would choose Nissan if I was going around town and doing light off-Roading.
Tacoma just looks better! I can only imagine how sharp it looks with the bigger tires and lift. Front is for ole folk :) .. kidding
Seeing how its now 2024, I plan to buy a 22' or 23' Pro4x for around $35k with no more than 20k miles on it. And use those savings to get a 3" lift and slap some 34" tires on. Will still come under the cost of the higher trim levels of newest tacoma and will look and perform better.
I would pick the frontier based on transmission. I want a smooth shift as possible.
It's a tie... I have a 2022 Tacoma SR5. Because I wanted a physical key instead of a button.
Frontier for me. You get a lot more features and safety features for the lesser price. Frontier literally beat out the Tacoma in almost every category. Toyota up charges their vehicles too much
Frontier Pro4X should be compared with the Tacoma TRD Off Road, not the TRD Pro...
I'm not sure why everyone compares the TRD pro to pro 4x. The TRD off road is the more direct comparison.
You can’t deny that frontier looks way better
Ok man dude every time lately I think to myself man it would be cool if he compared these two then the next day boom lol there’s a video of it thanks Ben!
Tacoma and 4Runner for me!
Very excited that my 2021 tacoma lease ends this may. Honestly nothing sold it for me. Long road trips were so uncomfortable, power sucks and that hunting gear issue never went away. The only thing I liked about the taco was the looks. Everything else was eh to okay at best. Never excelled in anything. Gonna be switching to a Nissan soon and will see what happens!
IF the two were priced the same, I’d lean towards the Tacoma Pro. But the reality is this trim is so pricey. So Nissan ftw… but just a little.
In my area its 57k for the trd pro and 47k for the top trim pro 4x and 44k for low trim pro 4x, makes it an easy to decide lol.
Then just get the TRD Offroad 4x4.
I own a 2019 Taco and would never trade in the reliability of a Toyota for that if a Nissan. Yes nissan may look better and drive better but the reliability is significantly better in the taco.
Looks is a stretch taco still looks way better 🤷♂️
How so?
Frontier trucks reliability is awesome! These trucks have always been very reliable. Just like the Titan. Very underrated trucks overall, specially the Titan
@James Francis - I recently was looking at both and have always been a Honda guy/Toyota pickup enthusiast. I was shocked to find out that afternoon the 2007 transmission issues in the frontiers, they actually have better reliability ratings then the tacos. Shocking😮…I know lol.
Not sure if I’d trust the motor/trans to 250k like the Toyota…but who know.
You're repeating an old mantra, not based in reality. Nissan Frontier and Hardbody have legendary reliability if you talk to OWNERS, not media folklore.
See the Million Mile Frontier on the TFL truck channel. This is not a unicorn.
People need to learn to do personal research instead of believing popular opinion. You probably never heard the suppressed truth of all the rustedvout frames Toyota had. Frames are very important to reliability.
Birdseye view,bed tie down rails and push button start were done by Nissan first. The rest are following. Nissan Frontier for the win.
I have the 2022 frontier. In love with it.
Both are nice trucks. I would buy the Frontier since it's new heard doesn't have a good value if that's true still a nice truck love the new looks. Nissan is doing amazing job they weren't updated their lineups at one time now getting with the game wish Nissan would bring back the Xterra imagine how it would look bet all rugged their new lineups are nice even quality is coming back they aren't bad cars at all just make auto trannies in most of them as CVT has improved would recommend using 6 or 9 speed automatic transmission in Sentra or Altima upgraded trim models.
I have had both the Toyota Trd off road and Nissan Frontier pro 4x! I think the Nissan Frontier pro 4x is a much better vehicle it a better interior not so tinny sounding body just all around better vehicle in my thoughts
Agreed 💯
100%
I will pick the Frontier !!
Not sure I understand your comment at the end. Why would you need bigger tires on the frontier and a lift when it’s already as high as the Tacoma, and already has bigger tires than the Tacoma. You wouldn’t need to do that with the Tacoma?
Tires aren’t bigger and it is raked a bit in the front so it doesn’t look as good as it could
@@BenHardyCars it’s a 17 inch rim versus a 16 inch rim. The overall tire diameter has got to be at least as big if not bigger. I don’t think Nissan is putting rubber bands on their truck wheels.
Yeah… it was confusing and didn’t make any sense to me. I guess he can’t or doesn’t want say which he prefers to avoid any issues getting future cars with Nissan or Toyota.
Because the nissan looks lower all around than a tacoma
@@beexiong2995 that’s a matter of opinion, but regardless, it isn’t any lower. Some people like trucks 10 feet off the ground. Personally I think the ride height of the Tacoma and the pro 4 Frontier is perfect.
Looks are a draw. But the Frontier wins on transmission and engine. The Tacoma feels like a 20 year old truck. It is NOT smooth at all but it does have a nicer bed.
The 2022 engines use direct injection which is prone to carbon building up
Nissan frontier pro 4x team
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How do they feel sitting behind the wheel? My dad's old Toyota always felt like you were sitting on the floorboards to me. Do they still feel like that, how about the Nissan? I much prefer feeling like I'm sitting up in a chair vs on the floor. Thanks for the comparison.
Just need the Ranger and Colorado and the canyon then it will be awesome video. Merry Christmas and happy Festivus
Back in 06' I wanted an toyota xrunner. Got to the local dealer and mildly test drove it... salesperson didn't want me to push it?? Whatever but gave it a go and was not impressed. Went in to do the paperwork and after an hour sales guy said it was already sold (last one). Bummed and upset we headed home. On our way the wife said let's go see the new nissan lot but I was not interested. Got there, walked the lot and didn't like the look of the frontier, sales guy asked and I said meh just looking. He asked so I said a truck. He asked color, trans etc so I said black and manual. He came back to rest drive with a 4dr 2wd 6speed manual frontier se. Soon as we got off the lot I punched it and boy was I super surprised! Damn thing was way stronger than the 6speed 2wd ex cab toyota xrunner... I was sold. Here in the islands everyone is a touota and chevy nut hugging lover. Well I share my story about Frontiers and Ford F150s. I have a work truck frontier which my son will now use for work and just got a 2nd Ford f150 twin turbo for work. I'll always choose a frontier over tacoma and a Ford F150 over everything.
The Tacoma looks better but I would buy the Frontier based off it’s better power train
I like the Frontier’s looks better
@@jz7551
Naw Taco is better
The Raptor R is much better
@@bigdavedayday1581
Naw, Taco
Ben does the Frontier require a subscription for the remote start like the Tacoma?
No
If u want to start with app on cell phone then yes
worth every penny!
love my starting app
2020+ tacoma trd models can still start with the key fob without subscription. Just hit the lock button 3x and hold on the last press.
I have a ‘22 TRD pro which I bought after my prior 2006 Tacoma finally gave up the ghost after 17 years and 320,000 miles. Both the trucks in this video are great, but before my previous Tacoma I had a pathfinder and then two Xterras and they all gave me a lot of problems and none made it past 170,000 miles. Also Nissan service was always a headache compared to toyota. Not sure if things have changed since then but that a what drove most of my decision making to get another Tacoma = better service and reliability. I will say that my current TRD pros transmission/power are disappointing compared to my previous Tacoma. Everything anyone says about the Tacoma hunting for gears on the highway is exactly right.
I like the Nissan redesign. If I had a choice of these two I would take the Tacoma though.
Id take the Tacoma TRD OR over the Frontier. Dual fuel injection for one, new engine in the Nissan makes me question its longevity, especially with direct injection only. Had a 17 TRD OR and it def had its quirks. Just like any vehicle, they seem to all have imperfections. Resale value goes to Taco all day. Better warranty with Nissan.
The engine isn't brand new to the new Frontier, it came out first in the previous Frontier. They're just as reliable as the old 4.0 engine.
Engine has been around since 2020. It's remained reliable so far.
Frontier all the way
Been thinking of which truck to get when i get my license and use as a daily driver. I've always wanted a Tacoma but most of my family drives Nissans, so its kinda hard to choose. I like the look of the Tacoma (especially in that beautiful color), but the reliability of the Frontier is, from what I've researched, the better choice. Ugh, so hard to choose!
Frontier way better in comfort and every day livability. Tacoma is trash! Been riding that "reliability" coat tails for too long! Even if it is, they are so uncomfortable to be in for any length of time. Why would someone want that? 😕
Hater. Tacoma is a great truck. Tried the sport and the ride was smooth.
At what point does the Frontier stop being all new?
Wanted a frontier until I sat in one. For a new truck, the interior didn’t feel super high quality.
Plus I’m waiting for the Tacoma redesign I hope they kill it like the tundra!
Still way better interior quality than the Tacoma’s.
@@jz7551 I beg to differ. Especially since the current Tacoma has been out since late 2015.
@@christ2054New Tundra is an abomination in the looks department, especially the nasty grill. And they are already showing up at dealers with blown engines as well as turbo issues that are CAB-OFF for repairs. What junk.
For sure the wait for it wait for it PRO4X for the WIN ! BETTER MOTOR AND TRANSMISSION ! THAT'S A WIN !!!!!!
Nice review
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport. I am thinking about trading it in for a 2023 PRO4X. I don't drive off road. The Tacoma is noisy on the highway and the transmission isn't smooth. And the Frontier is only 45k fully loaded. Is it a good decision? Thanks
Great choice , go for it !!
Tacome ❤🔥
All new tacoma is coming !! 🔥❤
Too bad tacoma will be 4cyl turbo
New Tacoma has very ugly dash screen to go with questionable turbo 4 cyl.
TFL just broke Taco diff under light conditions.
Basically the lowest point which is the rear pumpkin is about the same height. Everything else is higher in the Tacoma which is why it looks and is higher.
I love my S model 2023 Frontier king cab soooo much.😍
HANDS DOWN, NISSAN IS THE BETTER BUY.....VERY WELL DONE
How about the capacity of towing comaprison please
Get a full size if you want towing lol.
Not a big fan of that open front area on the Frontier that shows radiator fins exposed to possible damage from flying debris kicked up by other vehicles while driving. Even a fair sized twig jamming into that opening could possibly do some damage. Of course... It's all MAYBE... but why does it have to be exposed in the first place? Does it need that much more air cooling? Overheating issues solution? Hmmmm... Please correct me if I'm wrong. At least the Tacoma is better protected from the looks of things.
Does a TRD off road premium have a locking rear diff?
Yes
Good assessment, frontiers interior wins though
Love my Tacoma but I would love more power. Tacoma has way more aftermarket accessories as well.