Side Effects of African American Studies with Dr. Robin D.G. Kelley | Small Doses Podcast
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- One of my favorite professors, Dr. Robin D.G. Kelly, joins me this week to discuss the academic discipline of Black Studies and the knowledge this country doesn't want you to know.
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This is interesting! I took an African American Philosophy course last semester and the entire class had to boycott. This professor mentioned not a single black philosopher and dared to say they don't exist. Everybody just stood up and walked out. I have never felt so empowered and enraged in my life. We were asked to return the following week and had a bomb semester with a badass history/ philosophy professor from Spelman College.
What? What university was the original professor from?
Wow
Well, name one.
Name any major text from an African civilization (sub Saharan)
Name any advance in mathematics or science
Heck, did they even have an intellectual caste ?
There’s zero evidence of any.
We love a Spelmanite
Was this at Spelman?!?
As a young black girl growing up in a country town in Tennesse….well it’s all country, but anyway…I remember sitting in 3rd grade being told my ancestors were only slaves. I learned that we picked cotton and talked about the usuals, MLK, Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, Fredrick Douglas etc. I felt like something was being kept from me, but I wasn’t sure what? Fast Forward to my freshman year in college at Fresno State, ( I went on a bball scholarship)I took my first AAS course!
When I tell you there was a rage so deep in me, that I literally could not engage with white people (unless I absolutely had to) for a year!! The realization that you kept who my people were from me intentionally, that you wanted me to think small of myself intentionally was life changing on many levels.
So…I transferred to the University of Alabama, (not because of the class, but to play bball in SEC) We have this school newspaper at Bama, The Crimson White (school colors ) ran by students. A white guy wrote an article about AAS courses and why the courses are irrelevant because black people haven’t contributed much to this country. I responded to his article and wrote a letter to the editor, which was published. It was huge for a student athlete to step out of our box in this way back then, (I’m 51… so run it back) I was called into my coaches office and reprimanded ( not applauded) for my response!!!
My response to my coach was, “ if this guy has the freedom to write an article based on lies, I possess the same freedom to respond with facts and truth”.
My letter to the editor sparked a huge debate on campus. White pol thought my facts about AAH were lies, which totally proved my point about the importance of AAS courses and why it should be included in core curriculum coursework. Amanda, the work you do is not easy!! This was a great episode!
Keep educating, it’s appreciated!✊🏽
You wasted time in college with 'AAS' nonsense ? Dumb move.
You're at a sh*tty college...you better major in STEM and study harder. Anything less will be worthless.
The US has the healthiest and wealthiest large black population in global history. Yah.
Whine all you want, but blacks have never lived better. Anywhere
You know it’s in our souls……you felt it. I always felt pride in my African heritage even though I usually had to fight because I’m light skin. I struggled with the idea of hating others but I know good people come in all races. I got you by 8 years lol
@@regina7795 You really have to get beyond ‘race’ as a conceptual category
Remember - all African slavery began with coastal Africans raiding and capturing and transporting interior African tribes folks
There is no ‘black’ unity against slavery.
And get this - you know what the primary thing the coastal blacks traded slaves for ?
Clothes. Colorful Indian made cottons
I loved this discussion and kudos to this professor for recognizing and giving Amanda her credit and honor in the space that she occupies in the culture for the advancement, justice, and continued elevation of the social consciousness of Black America. Great job!!!!
She doesn’t really occupy a space outside of black woke political communities
Yo Asians, she’s just another weak affirmative action case
Amanda needs a Talk show. In this day and age we have social media so, who really care what celebrities have going on, that is so played out. We need more content like this! ❤
It’s so good we have TH-cam and podcasts cuz we don’t have to wait for network tv to sign the papers. We can provide the knowledge (and entertainment) on our own 💜
Dr. Robin D.G. Kelly is a heavy-hitter! Thank you for this episode!
Been binging Amanda’s content LITERALLY all DAY today. I deeply appreciate this type of information and she delivers and coveys it with a humor, sensitivity and clarity that not many are able to.. Patreon, here I come!
Side note: I majored in Black Studies @ SDSU (San Diego State U.) and Psychology.
So glad you're enjoying it! We put a lot into it!
The thesis moment! ❤️ a solid educator/teacher is like gold especially now a days
It was cool to hear Amanda talk about reviewing the table of contents in her readings as a kind of learning hack. That happens to be one of the strategies in the SQ3R study method that I learned in undergrad; Amanda just intuited it on her own with her brilliant self! (Also great to hear a fellow AAS grad talk about our field. ❤✊🏾)
It’s not brilliant.
It’s lowbrow
This is by far my favourite not just small doses episode but my favourite podcast episode. A lot of people especially Black people don't know what it took for Black people worldwide especially African Americans to be where they are today and when people say there are equal opportunities for all I say that's a big lie because structural racism has and still exist. I have been studying Black studies for years and I advocate that it should be taught to all Black people even if its at the elementary stages. I hope to be a Professor of African and Afro-American studies one day. Thank you Amanda for everything you do to educate and advocate for Black people and thank you to Dr Kelly who laid the foundation in you. Love from Nigeria 🇳🇬🇳🇬 I 🖤🖤🖤🖤
There is zero evidence of any 'structural racism'.
I’m a 19 year old college student studying neuroscience. Black studies is a passion of mine as well, and I hope to incorporate the two throughout my life as I figure out my career, but I just wanted to say that I learn so much from your content alone. Thank you for emphasizing the importance of reading, because although content like yours can be incredibly educational, there is a spark that ignites when you actually read books and conceptualize them.
Put aside the ethnic studies nonsense. Focus on bio-chem
@@seventhcompactor1505 no? lol
@@imhungry1088 Then don't be shocked at future unemployment, or firms dismissing your CV.
Don't blame 'racism' or any other 'ism'. It's just 'you'.
@imhungry1088 Go for it! It’s needed. There are racial/ethnic cultural, political and economic dynamics, & unmet BiPoC needs, in every industry. You can combine them in ways that are disruptive and/or are not. There are many, many rich possibilities.
@@nylabell8577 "BiPoC" is a ridiculous term, and has no use in actual reality. It's pure myth and ideology.
There's no such thing as 'indigenous'. No one, and no group are 'indigenous' to any piece of land.
And, everyone is 'of color'. There's no such thing as 'white'. These are stupid terms.
I wish Dr. Kelley would have troubled the need to bring black studies back to the people and release it from the pay walls of academia. If we want black studies to be a tool of liberation then it’s the responsibility of students and professors to bring this education into our communities making it accessible. Revolutionary will never be sponsored by the university.
black studies is useless and worthless
Well articulated 💯
Black history fact:
My cousin Anne Spencer was a part of the Harlem Renaissance but stayed in Lynchburg VA. In fact, Lynchburg was a hot bed for Black greatness. Althea Gibson & Arthur Ashe went to tennis camp at Dr. Johnson's camp on Pierce Street. Anne Spencer started the 1st chapter of the NAACP in VA. John Woodfuff (another cousin) won a Gold medal at the Berlin Olympics where Hitler refused to shake his hand. Woodfruff was on the team with Jessie Owens. All these moments in history are interconnected and affected by my one family from Lynchburg!! Lastly, Howard University was the greatest experience (other than visiting Africa) ever! It showed me who I am & and me a FULL American education. THAT'S a black history FACT.
Adding visuals to your podcast has seriously taking you to a new threshold, space and reach. Happy for you
Ms. Amanda Seales I love seeing/learning who taught you to give copyright (college), when writing papers. This episode remines me of my class Sociallgy of Black Studies at Kennedy
- King College in Chicago, my late Professor Jackson taught us the Civil War and the Reconstuction Period and he always gave us authors and books to read about, he taught and we (students) learned to carry what we learned to others, thank you for this episode, peace.
This was truly a wonderful discussion. Well done. Thank you Amanda. ☑️☑️👍🏽👍🏽💯💯
I majored in Black Studies at Washington State University in the late 90’s and remember feeling so discouraged that as the first person in my family to attend college I was constantly questioned about “what I was going to do with a black studies degree?” by my family members and even friends who attended HBCU’s 😳 As a young woman it was difficult to defend and I always felt burdened with the need to defend my degree until DEI became so “popular” of late 😏
Thank you for bringing this extremely important discussion to the forefront of our community consciousness again! ♥️🙏🏽💃🏽🙏🏽♥️
I felt that sigh @27:05 man 😅
So so many gems in here man.
Thank you so much for this Amanda, a lot of people don't understand the big plan for public education, which is to dismantle it.
That creed and the dominant culture teaches us that protest and rioting is savagery because they don’t want us to fight. We see boycotting, strikes, and rioting in France, Great Britain, Italy, Greece, so many western white countries. But the way for them to resist “change” is to send the subliminal message to us that when white populations fight for rights it’s OK, but when Black and Brown people fight for rights it’s savagery! That’s how they keep you in your place!
This why people are hesitant to fight (because they have bought the lie) despite Republicans legislating to firm up the creed that the good doctor on your podcast talks about. It’s truly about firming up institutionalized racism!
You all aren't fighting for rights. You're looting for stuff. Big difference
Viva Black Study and Black Studies!!!
It’s an AMAZING feeling when our hero’s congratulate us!!! I love this for you Amanda!!!! This HAS to be a moment where you are just like “yyyeeeesss”!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Yes love this type of content! Love when you get in your education bag! I mean you stay in it 😂😂
Amanda, I admire you and the way you use your platform to discuss important topics, relentlessly. Would love to get a peek of your thesis😁
Not Amanda making me want to get my masters. I mean I need to finish those two classes to get my Bachelors but still lol.
Btw I also remember Amanda Diva and on Def Poetry Jam talking about the Emcees on her block lol
I KNEW there was an existential reason I love A.S. We are Cancer sisters! She's real, funny, truthful, faithful, fearless, & non-offensive. SHE is a valuable voice!! She is saying everything I've been thinking lately. Please come to Maryland & help us get off the fence & make definitive decisions about the direction & the course of Our American future. I know you have the ear of Wes Moore, 1st Black Gov., or at least his wife Dawn. We're waiting 4 u.......
I studied with Dr. Kelley at Michigan waaaay back! So glad to see you giving him voice on your podcast. Been following you since your Amanda Diva days.
Really enjoyed this conversation! I took so many African American studies courses in college at the end of my four years I was able to get an unintentional minor. This conversation kinda makes me want to go back and get a masters in Black Studies.
This was so needed today! Shout out to Dr. Kelly
This was such a great discussion!!
My favorite discussion so far. Look forward to this podcast every week ❤
Yayyy!! That makes me so happy and proud!
Dr. Kelly delivered an amazing speech at my Bank Street graduation. Of course! I clicked on this video 🤩🤩
I LOVED THIS CONVERSATION! I'm late to the game but it was SO refreshing to have such an intellectual, insightful, and thought-provoking episode. Thank you so much Amanda, and thank you Dr. Robin Kelley - I learned a lot and hope to have the same level of convos with our Asian community as well. ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
I love this content, we’ve been lied to since we were children of not having access to the true studies of our black people. This should be studied in public schools instead of the main black stories that they continue to feed lies to our people. Thank you Amanda for your podcast and getting the word out there. I love your channel, I’m a new subscriber.
I really really enjoyed this! Thank you, Amanda and Dr. Kelly!
Great Interview! I would also LOVE for you to interview Dr. Vulindlela Wobogo who was apart of the organizers of the movement to establish Black Studies at San Francisco State.
What a worthless idea. San Francisco state is already a low ranked university with weak degrees. Majoring in ethnic studies there will only lead students to lifelong unemployment and debt
Amanda please have Prof. Sir Hilary Beckles on your show. He is the vice chancellor of the University of the West Indies and chair of the CARICOM reparations commission!! That discussion would be a great follow-up to this one.
What nonsense
Amanda is definitely in her element!! Love this, love y’all! 🖤🖤🤎🤎💛💛❤❤
This was such a very informative, intense, important and greatly needed discussion. Thank you sister Amanda for interviewing this brother.
you got me at slow reading Amanda thanks for audiobook because I am a slooooow reader too, what an excellent conversation, two brilliant minds, Dr. Kelly you are my hero!
I had to take out a notebook and take notes. Man, there is so much still to learn (so much I still don't know:(. Thank you for this convo!
just bought "Freedom Dreams: The Black Radical Imagination", this author will be my entire summer reading material.
Definitely add Hammer and Hoe
I am so grateful to have found you! Apparently the people who meet you feel the same way, judging by Dr Kelley.
Another amazing conversation! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, and will be watching it again! Big up yuh whole self Amanda! Thank you for this!🙏🏾🇬🇩🇬🇩🇬🇩
So sad we need people to write it out so that folks can understand complicated issues simply written in books for everyone to understand. Thank you so much Amanda I really appreciate you and your Guest host and your thoughtful Guests ❤❤❤
Loved this convo. I was an Africana Studies ( Black Studies) and Pyschology double major! The program gave me such a strong sense of self. It warms my heart to see public figures like Amanda Seales and Ebony K. Williams, etc. who are are proud of and amplify the discipline of Black studies.
I ❤ Amanda. The culture needs these types of shows. “If you don’t stand for something. You will fall for anything.” Amanda, thank you leading from the front!
Knowledge is power. Thank you for this discussion.
47:51 A small all white town in Florida called Ocoee was once a black thriving town...
A lot of depth in this conversation in highlighting the importance of critical thinking. Thank you Amanda!
Maybe this is an allready widely known fact, but I recently just discovered about the trial of Phillis Wheatley. I believe her story encompasses this great discussion on critical thinking. Amanda you are an inspiration and you do awaken our inner power. Masha masha danki, as we say thank you in our language papiamentu on Curaçao. We be watchin...
This is wonderful content. Love listening to the dialogue and you were lucky to have him as an educator
Such an amazing interview! It gave my hope, taught me a lot, and allowed me to reflect. Professor Kelley was my professor as well when I was a Freshman @ USC! Put some respect in Amandas’s name!
You sent to sc and can't see past this lowbrow nonsense ?
A shame
I would love to be his new student! And Amanda could definitely be my professor as well! Gems the entire episode!!! 💎💎💎👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This is one of my favorite episodes ever!!!!!!!!!!
I've been following Amanda for a while but just really starting tuning in to her podcast. Mind blown! Love the topics and the guests and the discussions! I laugh, get mad, and learn all at same time. Lol! This by far was one of my favorite episodes to date! Great work, Amanda! Thank you so much for what you do for the culture!
I studied political science at Michigan State... yes I did take a Black Studies course...
This interview is going on the syllabus for a course I have not yet written.
Amanda is just so passionate. now I knew she was deep but I really see and understand. She is Angela Davis 2.0. This also explains why she could not continue with the day time show that she walked away from to be true to herself. ❤
Wow! What a great conversation 👏🏾 You dropped a gem talking about how creating your own opportunities will not lead to a billion dollar paycheck. I always ask myself why certain influentials will sell their souls because they're chasing the ultimate 💰 because having only a few million isn't enough. Living in your true, authentic is like heaven on earth. I really enjoyed the professor and will check out his books. I miss this! I miss intellectual conversations and examining life with colleagues. Thank you my ♋️ sister. This was a great way to start my day and get the neurons fired up.
LOVE LOVE Amanda and your content! BINGE WORTHY for sure.
46:39 Yesss, the soil I'm fighting on!!!
I graduated from FAMU with a bachelors in Psychology. If you want a real black curriculum that empowers and uplifts blackness and gives ideas never taught in grade school then the school of psychology at FAMU is the place for you. I was already pro black but the teachings just shocked and empowered me even more. Knowledge is definitely power ✊🏿
51:55 People truly don't know how close the line is to actually being incarcerated, we ALL are just one decision or misidentification from being incarcerated ourselves, and if we truly knew that we all would care about criminal justice and prison reform...
Thank you for this very lighting conversation
Good interview with Dr. Kelley.
I listened to this while driving to Raleigh and y’all this was soooooo informative. Another great and much needed episode.
Yaaas! Cant wait!
Interesting debate. Thank you Amanda Seales and Dr Kelley.
There's no debate. This degree is worthless and useless
This was a healthy conversation
Respect! Respect!
Great conversation
Love this interview!!
This was such a refreshing episode. I felt like I was right there with you all and Amanda you are looking great you look like you are in your late 20s 30ish ❤❤❤keep doing you and God’s work
I took an African American literature class. I didn't know there was a degree for African American studies until I was an adult in my mid 30's. And I don't feel proud to say that. I just did not know. Thank you Amanda for having this dialogue.
Great Episode! He’s right. You are doing the work. We appreciate you more than you know! Thank you!
Shout out to Prof. Kelley and Sharon Harris! #BackInThemNYCDays
Beautiful interview ❤
I love you, Amanda! Thanks for all that you do!
This was amazing and so eye opening. Can’t wait to get into more vids!!!!
i literally came back to run this interview back... wish you had more speakers like this and immortal technique.
This was great content yet again!!!!
2:29 Now I remember you as Amanda Diva as well because that was around the time I was trying to make it as a female rapper, way before this every $tripper is a rapper era, when you had to have lyrics to be a rapper. I think you was a judge or panelist for a few music conferences they would have...
This was a really well done and informative discussion. I feel like I learned a lot, and I got a deeper understanding of the origin of Amanda's activism.
Thank you 🙌🏾
We need Dr. Kelley back, I would've loved to hear his perspective on Will Smith vs Chris Rock moment. In My African American Families class in grad school my teacher made that the topic of discussion the following day in class and whew folks was going at it 😂
People don’t construe this system as being what it is: NARCISSISTIC!
Individualism: narcissistic
The American dream: narcissistic
What does a narcissist do when exposed?
It’s all there. Yes, it’s our task to develop ourselves critically so that we can understand historical significance and context.
What was the fallen one kicked out of heaven for? Narcissism? Think 💭!!!
Dropping Gems 😊
Learned so much! This channel is so needed.
I love this. We need to know our history 👏🏾🖤
This year, my students dissected Robin D.G. Kelley's Atlantic interview/article with Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor. We also went over most of what Amanda Seales and Dr. Kelley discuss in this dynamic interview. I will have to show this interview in September.
What a waste of time.
Your students are headed to unemployment
Powerful conversation. I love y’all 🤎🤎
Please go on tour with Forums and stop by Madison and Milwaukee WI
Wow! I love this!
Such a necessary, fun, and informative episode!!
39:08 If one of us is not free, none of us are free!!!
I loved every bit of this! ❤️👏🏾
Everything and 40:35 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you for this episode!
Cali is always ahead
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ LOVED THIS
No. America can never line up to its creed.
Thank you for this!!! 🙌🏽😊
Great episode and he’s easy on the eyes. 😊