Bro I dropped out of high diamond with only 3 games bf hitting master because of consecutive leavers, but when my game lag out or internet turn off I get banned
The masters players are also really underestimating the bronze players. Liken the fist attack there was no reason why the bap should have died there. He simply didn’t expect the bronze player to kill him.
Not gonna lie, even though the difference between 5v5 and 4v5 is pretty big, the amount of improvement from the silvers after just the first game is pretty neat. One heavy loss later, they're strategizing, using coms, peeling for each other, playing together, etc. Pretty great stuff.
I believe that a player that consistently plays against high ranked players will improve exponentially faster than lets say, a silver against a silver will improve. just facts, because you learn and adapt to their playstyle
@@Hexmeta Exactly! All my friends are way higher rank than me, and when I play with them I always feel like I’m not doing quite as good as everyone else. But as soon as I play alone, I notice I’m able to consistently pull ahead of others my rank probably because I usually play with people better than me.
@Agama yeah playing with and against superior players is how you speedrun learning a game. I think a lot of low elo people get stuck because they genuinely just don't know what good habits even look like
make two teams of masters/gm, say they are in silver/gold team and need not to be found. To spice it up: allow players to vote who is "secret" GM on the other team (they all are, but it should be hilarious to see the votes).
It was pretty confusing which team was which and which team was talking at times. Maybe u can have a border around the screen denoting the team and an icon to shows who’s talking?
@@softanarchy9404 I see now (still didint know which team had the masters but after watching and context clues you figure it out). I’m also assuming that whichever team they’re on is the one talking at that moment. However, it’s be cool to see which character is talking. Like have the team discord icons on either side.
@@notthatserious480 they explain that the Masters are blue and what their team name is and that Silvers are red and are on Jay’s team at the beginning 😄 but yeah the discord part would be helpful
I like how they polished the rules, giving chat the votes. Its interesting cuz chat is divided by people who want the underdogs to win by removing the mvp of the master team and others who wanna minimize the damage done to masters so the 4 & 3 person teams are optimized with the cream of the crop. There's also the people who vote for the most memorable or least memorable player cuz they don't care either way or didn't pay attention XD
would have to be a capture point realistically I think, so could be like after you win one point you lose a player which the other team votes on, if u win the 4v5 fair enough you got both points u win, but if you lose, then you get to take out one of there players so itd be 4v4 with most likely the best players gone
That was the most roadhog thing I've ever seen, eating damage waiting for a Mei to pop out of ice block because the hog knows that the damage is inconsequential
Silvers being silent for majority of the game, that's pretty normal. And even when anyone speaks, it's either to complain or to moan about their death. When ranking from unranked, that's the usual experience
I'll never understand why players in SILVER think they belong in a rank FOUR TIERS above them. Also, do this with players who have more realistic expectations for themselves please. GOLD vs DIAMOND, SILVER vs PLAT, etc.
As a masters player, one BIG mistake I notice a lot of kiriko players do is they have absolutely no clue how to position their kitsune rush. People need to realize that kitsune rush is best when it's denying as many angles and as much space as possible. You would think the kiriko players in this rank (the top 3 percent) would understand this basic concept, but they don't and it's what makes the difference between a masters support and a GM support.
The issue with lower rank lobbies is you get one person who talks like me and then the rest act like they’re mic less till the end of the match and then they yell at you and blame you for everything even if you’re the only person putting out the right damage to get picks nope you’ll get yelled at and told you suck
i was making call outs about flanks or a crucial pick being low. only that, no more and at the end of the game i get yelled at for "talking too much" no one else talked or used comms btw.
+ you get people that pick widow, and think they can do what masters / gms can Yet they never really help mid fight, only before or after, when it mostly doesnt matter as enemy can just go together on point and roll.
@@J1xor that’s what I mean I’m a dps genji but my Ashe is my main so ya genji is a throw sometimes but even when it’s not and I’m 17-0 and I ask for heals I get told to go heal myself or I sit next to my supports for 20 minutes looking at him just asking for heals and they look at me like I’m dumb for asking like that’s why I stopped playing damage and play Winston
@@MrAnbros naw you get people who pick junk rat or bastion and they sit there feeding the tank instead of killing supports and making the right calls then at the end of the game they have 10k dmg and 10 kills I got 5k damage 15 kills get I’m the issue
No, the worst thing about bronze and silver is that they have no sense of teamwork and don't see the opportunities. With the start of season 2, I went from Gold 5 DPS to Silver 5 (While I started Silver 3) and honestly, being in their lobby is depressing. Yesterday, I literally had a pacifist Reinhart staying in the backline. I engaged most fights, killed at least 1-2 on point before dying. And even with what I did, they still lost many 4 vs 3 And to think I have to go through this to get back to Gold...
Idk if the masters could run double tank. but If they could, I think Sig, Hog, Bap could work on the last match. If they couldn't, kiriko bap Hog were probably their best picks.
Should at least be PLAT players vs MASTERS imho. They also tend to talk the most smack, so it's deserved. Also, I did the same thing as the Master's 4v5 IN MY OWN RANK. Brilliant win against a 5-player team while down one.
You know, silver is a way higher level than I expected. I'm still like lvl 15 so I never even played ranked but damn. This shit gonna be hard when I get there.
As someone on ranked. It’s more so lack of comms. But that may be due to both- me not owning headphones, I don’t have a proper team to actually do ranked with as my friends play on PC 😢
If the masters team went hog, ana, and zen i think they would have won or at least gotten close. Constant heals on hog, constant discord on orisa, and nano.
Does the higher elo team always lose 3v5 around the same spot close to the first bend after the second cap or is it just me? Seems to be something after the second gap that makes it harder to attack than the rest of the map, or rather a lot of teams choke there
Fun idea. High rank team vs low rank. Every game both teams have to vote someone off, person voted off switches sides.
Definitely a good idea
I like this
Matchmaking in CS
someone asked for this already. he might do it
@@youtuberobbedmeofmyname much better because OP idea makes the person voted off feel bad, opposed to yours where the one voted feels better
This really shows the value of getting a pick and reducing enemy player numbers. Alternatively how damaging it is to have a leaver
No shit
Sad thing is that the leavers dont give a f xD
Bro I dropped out of high diamond with only 3 games bf hitting master because of consecutive leavers, but when my game lag out or internet turn off I get banned
The masters players are also really underestimating the bronze players. Liken the fist attack there was no reason why the bap should have died
there. He simply didn’t expect the bronze player to kill him.
@Flowzwtf tfym mad lol
2:27 Jay telling the silent group of silvers that they’re only against masters and not even GM is hilarious advice😂
Not gonna lie, even though the difference between 5v5 and 4v5 is pretty big, the amount of improvement from the silvers after just the first game is pretty neat. One heavy loss later, they're strategizing, using coms, peeling for each other, playing together, etc. Pretty great stuff.
It's not improvement, it's morale since they didn't believe they could in the first one, while they saw the second game as winnable
It just demonstrates how much it helps to queue with a team repeatedly. You will have better communication after only a couple games
I believe that a player that consistently plays against high ranked players will improve exponentially faster than lets say, a silver against a silver will improve. just facts, because you learn and adapt to their playstyle
@@Hexmeta Exactly! All my friends are way higher rank than me, and when I play with them I always feel like I’m not doing quite as good as everyone else. But as soon as I play alone, I notice I’m able to consistently pull ahead of others my rank probably because I usually play with people better than me.
@Agama yeah playing with and against superior players is how you speedrun learning a game. I think a lot of low elo people get stuck because they genuinely just don't know what good habits even look like
5 toxic bronzes vs 5 bronzes that get along well, I wanna see how important mental is in this game
They're in the same rank for some reason. The toxic players might have more skill
@@Tallyptit’s more so. Which bronze will like beat each other and to see if it’s due to mental like push.
@@Tallypt your skill doesn't matter if you're a little bitch baby and throw after one failed push
I would watch if it was gold or something ain't no way they will find 5 "toxic" bronzes without finding a Smurf or something
@@-loarado doesn't matter what rank I'm jus curious as a whole
make two teams of masters/gm, say they are in silver/gold team and need not to be found. To spice it up: allow players to vote who is "secret" GM on the other team (they all are, but it should be hilarious to see the votes).
nah they’d catch on
@@immafatazn not if you put the task in everyone's mind. They will all be sure that only one of them is GM and only focus on the best player.
It was pretty confusing which team was which and which team was talking at times. Maybe u can have a border around the screen denoting the team and an icon to shows who’s talking?
It says in the bottom left of each hero what team they’re on
@@softanarchy9404 I see now (still didint know which team had the masters but after watching and context clues you figure it out). I’m also assuming that whichever team they’re on is the one talking at that moment. However, it’s be cool to see which character is talking. Like have the team discord icons on either side.
@@notthatserious480 they explain that the Masters are blue and what their team name is and that Silvers are red and are on Jay’s team at the beginning 😄 but yeah the discord part would be helpful
Bro for the first one the silvers got rolled any every game after they had less played how is it hard to follow
I absolutely love this type of video
Same
@@garp5555 question: you guys like this or guess the Smurf better
@@jamespa7193 ㅤ
I like how they polished the rules, giving chat the votes. Its interesting cuz chat is divided by people who want the underdogs to win by removing the mvp of the master team and others who wanna minimize the damage done to masters so the 4 & 3 person teams are optimized with the cream of the crop. There's also the people who vote for the most memorable or least memorable player cuz they don't care either way or didn't pay attention XD
We need a mode like this much more fun then regular elimination
would have to be a capture point realistically I think, so could be like after you win one point you lose a player which the other team votes on, if u win the 4v5 fair enough you got both points u win, but if you lose, then you get to take out one of there players so itd be 4v4 with most likely the best players gone
“ I love that call out widows right there “ at least he pinged lmaooo
"When in doubt, let it rip."
Jay3 2022
18:46 200IQ show the chat that is blocked by your sponsor ad lmao
Dude that shade on jay was fucking hilarious and a little 👌 true 😂
"Can we try again?" *Video has 6 minutes left* lmaoo
3:42 man said “you guys got lucky” in chat to masters 💀💀💀
Owen surprisingly good with monke - gotta give the guy props
This video proves that having even one player not doing their job makes a difference in a match.
Jay turning the duck around during the game 😂
Jay spectates Owen until they’re demeched to switch to SSTorbjörn only to find out they’re already dead, “Oh shit quick pan the camera!”
Letting it rip is one of the greatest human experiences.
If I squint hard enough my gold looks like masters.
12:15 tht time stamp is insane💀💀
When new tank comes out: 5 rammatra vs 5 rammatra
These videos are awesome, this type of play is also helpful to lower ranked players to learn and evolve with their gameplay.
3:41 I love watching a nad players ❤❤❤❤
That single vote difference was probably Lotad's xD
Please do this with top 500’s and bronze’s it would be so funny
No way this is silver, silver doesnt communicate at all and everyone is doing their own thing
Next time when the Masters can no longer win, you should give them a player back to see if the Silvers have learned how to play against them and win.
4:35 how is she scoped in 😂
That was the most roadhog thing I've ever seen, eating damage waiting for a Mei to pop out of ice block because the hog knows that the damage is inconsequential
My fav creator since getting back into overwatch
9:34 I play ana into doom all the time, this happens all the time. Idk if it’s a bug or he’s got iv frames at the end of his ult
We need a streamer tournament where each gm streamer gets a team of 4 other bronze players
If u made Jay’s jockstrap team jerseys I would buy 5 for the boys and I no cap.
how about bronze vs gold but the bronze team have a GM coach to guide to them
Mercy, Kiriko and Orisa = W because when Orisa has healers she becomes immortal
those silver supports are wayyyyyy more aggressive than 99% of silvers
Bap, mercy and Dva on a push map cab def do it. Just pocket the bap and you can win.
Those master need to learn to pick
Exactly my point
NEXT CHALLENGE: GMs x GMs match but both teams are in the same voicechat
i really like cherrys personality and attitude, jay should really bring her back on another video
you need to do it where chat doesn’t vote them off because they need to keep a master tank to have a chance
this just looks like your average comp game with the new system
My sleeps haven’t been hitting either
Silvers being silent for majority of the game, that's pretty normal. And even when anyone speaks, it's either to complain or to moan about their death.
When ranking from unranked, that's the usual experience
finally !! thank you very much. Really great content!
Nice content! Wanna see you playing with the new tank hero, Jay!
That turtles in time song tho 🔥
I'll never understand why players in SILVER think they belong in a rank FOUR TIERS above them.
Also, do this with players who have more realistic expectations for themselves please. GOLD vs DIAMOND, SILVER vs PLAT, etc.
Next we need Silver vs Masters but everytime the masters win the silver lose a player kekw
Love your content
5:50 terrible ult lmao
Us gold players would not let it be like this in the first game. We're capping first point.
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I'm pretty sure this is just normal OW2 matchmaking
They talked with each other, had an actual comp, and the healers weren't just dpsing. They aren't silvers lol.
pharah mercy with a hog thats the best 3 man team
Lowkey love Cherry.
As a masters player, one BIG mistake I notice a lot of kiriko players do is they have absolutely no clue how to position their kitsune rush. People need to realize that kitsune rush is best when it's denying as many angles and as much space as possible. You would think the kiriko players in this rank (the top 3 percent) would understand this basic concept, but they don't and it's what makes the difference between a masters support and a GM support.
You should definitely do top 500 vs bronze but everytime top 500 win they lose 1 player
They would win 3v5 but still lost 2v5
@@Dartnitt what do you mean
Im saying top500 would win 3v5, but still lose 2v5 to bronze
The issue with lower rank lobbies is you get one person who talks like me and then the rest act like they’re mic less till the end of the match and then they yell at you and blame you for everything even if you’re the only person putting out the right damage to get picks nope you’ll get yelled at and told you suck
i was making call outs about flanks or a crucial pick being low. only that, no more and at the end of the game i get yelled at for "talking too much" no one else talked or used comms btw.
+ you get people that pick widow, and think they can do what masters / gms can
Yet they never really help mid fight, only before or after, when it mostly doesnt matter as enemy can just go together on point and roll.
@@J1xor that’s what I mean I’m a dps genji but my Ashe is my main so ya genji is a throw sometimes but even when it’s not and I’m 17-0 and I ask for heals I get told to go heal myself or I sit next to my supports for 20 minutes looking at him just asking for heals and they look at me like I’m dumb for asking like that’s why I stopped playing damage and play Winston
@@MrAnbros naw you get people who pick junk rat or bastion and they sit there feeding the tank instead of killing supports and making the right calls then at the end of the game they have 10k dmg and 10 kills I got 5k damage 15 kills get I’m the issue
No, the worst thing about bronze and silver is that they have no sense of teamwork and don't see the opportunities. With the start of season 2, I went from Gold 5 DPS to Silver 5 (While I started Silver 3) and honestly, being in their lobby is depressing. Yesterday, I literally had a pacifist Reinhart staying in the backline. I engaged most fights, killed at least 1-2 on point before dying. And even with what I did, they still lost many 4 vs 3
And to think I have to go through this to get back to Gold...
These are fun
You should also do gold vs diamonds but gold has to win 1 diamond has to win 5
Or something like that
So I'm noticing a huge thing in ranked is communication. Low communication = low ELO.
im pretty sure the strongest trio is baptist + moira + either rein or hog depends on enemy team
He got salty gosu called him out lol
Man, if you go bronze against diamond, I wanna be the DPS and go symmetra!
best type of content
This is the definition of "team diff"
Cherry was throwing on their team
My favourite type of content
I’m a soldier/Ashe main myself but I have to admit that a good soldier can be really OP in S3 😅 especially in lower ranks
Video idea; GM/Masters team vs Top 500 team.
That Lucio was interesting tho
You should have done this with gms. To see if they can win with 3 or even 2
If they can switch from dps to support what can they switch to all tanks
I want to see Copper vs GM with the same rules.
I reckon Zarya was the move for the last game
Hog zen and kiriko would be the play for it
Hey jay, I just recently built a gaming pc. What set of headphones would you recommend for competitive gaming?
honestly shows the lack of skill gap that’s possible in this game
Idk if the masters could run double tank. but If they could, I think Sig, Hog, Bap could work on the last match. If they couldn't, kiriko bap Hog were probably their best picks.
Should at least be PLAT players vs MASTERS imho. They also tend to talk the most smack, so it's deserved.
Also, I did the same thing as the Master's 4v5 IN MY OWN RANK. Brilliant win against a 5-player team while down one.
Bro found the beat silver players in the world
I feel like hog mei tracer surely fir the self sustain? When they 3
I didn't know macauley culkin played overwatch 🥴
You know, silver is a way higher level than I expected. I'm still like lvl 15 so I never even played ranked but damn. This shit gonna be hard when I get there.
As someone on ranked. It’s more so lack of comms. But that may be due to both- me not owning headphones, I don’t have a proper team to actually do ranked with as my friends play on PC 😢
I like your content. Subbed.
At like 16:30 ish good mei wall :)
If the masters team went hog, ana, and zen i think they would have won or at least gotten close. Constant heals on hog, constant discord on orisa, and nano.
OML IF YOU EVER DECIDE TP DO THIS AGAIN PLEASE LET ME BE IN IT IT LOOKS SO FUN 💀💀
Not the masters thinking they are actually good lmao
What rank are you then
@@gamescope218 Not crappy masters, and by the looks of their team coms and ability to aim/positioning. It looks like they are barely masters
Video idea 5 gms vs 5 Perma nanoed silvers
Does the higher elo team always lose 3v5 around the same spot close to the first bend after the second cap or is it just me?
Seems to be something after the second gap that makes it harder to attack than the rest of the map, or rather a lot of teams choke there
Sigma woulda Been the solo pick at the end of kings for the masters
Love the content
some insane healing
I loved the silver team
Bronzes vs dismonds next?
You should do top 500s vs plats