Amazing. I have been watching your videos since I was a child and owning a camera seemed like a dream, today I have bought the 6700 and here I am watching yet another of your reviews. You're doing a truly great job. Much love.🎉
Thanks so much Gordon, you've answered a query I had about the autotracking feature being able to be output uncropped also to an external monitor. Great review!
For anyone interested in a Sony camera including the A6700 looking to record 25p or 30p framerates using h.265 just note that Sony cameras do not support 25p and 30p using h.265, but only h.264.
You don't need it man. In fact,its a feature that vast majority don't use and its simple. Crazy amount of data and you need quite powerful computer. Just use 4k and make sure you get the framing right. This is how you become a better videographer. Don't rely on cropping. Sometimes its useful but i doubt people will use it often
🔴This This is the camera to go for / for those who dare to skip the full frame sony universe 💗 finally the better battery And the record button in the same spot as the A7iv ... sadly they missed to introduce a second sd card slot 🤔
Standard stabilization looked decent. I think IBIS is improving. I think this will be my vlogging camera instead of the ZVE1. I’m not even using full frame lenses on it. It would be better to use my APSC lenses on an APSC body.
The Sony a6700 has to be the perfect camera when shooting 4K60 in the minus seventy degree Northern Lights shoot which all dedicated hitechies need to go in January 2024. The camera will quickly overheat, warm your hands nice and toasty in a few minutes. Then you can stuff it in your backpack. With no Northern Light footage, because the Aurora Gods will be laughing at you with your latest adventure. As soon as that cam hits the bottom of your backpack & freezes solid, the greatest aurora display ever will explode overhead. So, all the AI genius guys & gals, hurry, rush get three of these cams for your next Siberian or Alaskan shoot. 😎😎
It would be great to have a dedicated X-S20 vs A6700 :) - After watching both reviews, I still have some questions: 1. How do they compare in low light video? 2. What is the dynamic range difference in video, are they both 14 stops? 3. Is the FLOG2 1250 ISO on the X-S20 noticeably worse/noisier than the ISO800 with SLOG3 on the Sony? 4. Maybe some more IBIS testing of X-S20 vs A6700 with a comparable i.e. 13mm lens instead of the 8mm extreme option 5. Side by side autofocus for talking head, does the Fuji still lose you? 6. Personally, for video, which one do you think overall is better?
Are you able to test it’s USB webcam streaming? Quality, overheating and how long it lasts plugged into the PC. FX30 can only do 4k in 14FPS in USB while this can do 4k30.
I'm also wondering about this. I'm planning to get the A6700 as a second photo shooter aside my A7III but I'm even more leaning towards it replacing my A6400 for the main headshot when livestreaming. I've never had issues with any of these cameras when they ran with dummy batteries (also my A5100) for 7-8 hours of livestreaming/conferencing per day. But you're pointing at USB streaming so I'm just wondering if @cameralabs also has a tip here. Will I be able to both livestream and power the camera with the same USB-C cable? Hm.... Otherwise I have a set of dummy batteries... Cheers!
Great test! Still this camera is not good for me. Unfortunatelly for photography it is underspeced in terms of used components (shutter speed, sync and drive modes both mechanical and electronic, EVF, screen, 1 cardslot) and photographic extra features, while in terms of video it is no match in terms of slow motion to my GH6. Difference in video specs are not enough to replace GH6, and in terms of wildlife photography it is not enough to replace Canon R7. Sadly. I was sure I was going to buy it. But I will pass and wait for a6900, a7000 or R7 II
Any chance Sony can release a firmware update that closes the shutter when the lens is off? Dust and Sony seem synonymous for me. Also a bit of a mystery why there is a record button for video when you have a dial to select video mode - why not just use the shutter button and then gain another custom button?
Still the best. Your reviews are the best Gordon. I night choose the fuji s20, with Open gate . The auto framing is really great, but it would be a deram if you could Stay in 4k resolution, after framing.
I would like to see a full A6700 vs Fuji X-S20 comparison with tests. There doesn't seem to be a single comparison of these two cameras on TH-cam to date other than the boring side by side specs videos
I have the Sony a6400, the Sony AX53 (camcorder) and the Lumix G85 as my primary 4K video cameras and I use them all generally at 30 fps. The a6400 in particular, I think should have had some scan rate options where possible. For example, they could have made the 30 fps scan an optional alternative at 24 fps. This way, I would have had the option to decide whether I wanted the (theoretically) better image quality of the slower scan or the less "warping" of the faster scans. I think I would chose the 30 fps scan even when recording at 24 fps. Other people might make even different choices. Also, I would appreciate having 36 fps and 48 fps frame rate options.
Only channel I watch for camera reviews, great video as always. If you compare ZVE-1 and A6700 for Hybrid shooter which one would you recomend? Is only diffrence is low light?
Weeeeell, the ZVE1 does give you the A7SIII sensor, so it depends if you prefer its capabilities, like readout and no crops to the FX30 sensor in the A6700. Do check out my ZVE1 review for some comparisons.
@gordonlaing Thanks for your prompt review Gordon. Would you be able to do a comparison between this and the Fuji XS20? Do you recommend one over the other?
There's pros and cons to both of them, so you have to weigh up stuff like, do I value cropped 4k 120 more or less than open gate 6k? I've made a detailed review on the XS20, so do give that a watch too, plus my other 6700 video!
Thanks for this, not that many reviews out going into detail about video. Can this camera film 1080p 120fps in "100M 10-bit"? It's not listed on the Sony website.
I absoluteely love that you test image quality with active steadyshot! Thanks!! 🥰 I've recently got Fuji X-H2S and now Im curious if I should go with X-S20 or A6700 as secondary cam for handheld work. Do you plan to make such direct comparison? Both very light and compact bodies. Ideal for travel. Sony has 4k120, Fuji has open gate. Tough.
@@cameralabs But Sony has 11mm f1.8 too :((( nothing like this for Fuji... I've decided that I will rent X-S20, FX30 and R7 to see for myself which is best option for me. Im quite unimpressed with X-H2S tbh, there is no wide area af in video at all and it works way worse than Panasonics with DFD in my case (DFD is woobly, but its intelligent in wide area mode). Im curious if Canon that everybody praises for AF would be a good solution.
@@cameralabs I would rent A6700 but ofc nobody has it yet, FX30 should give me same image. If only Lumix S5 II had less crop in 4k60 or pixelbinned full-width I would go with it... best stab, great af in wide, best ergonomics, open gate, has playhead when you play video in camera (Fuji X-H2S has just forward/backward buttons like walkman, useless)
@@cameralabs and quick idea that maybe other people will find useful - consider testing autofocus with objects too, general wide area af. One person will record unboxing of sneakers, another one record DIY in his garage, another one want to make food recipe videos. People record way more than just themselfes and its so difficult to find "general AF" test. Face autofocus on Fuji is great, but it fails at anything "random" - it falls back to focusing whatever is nearest without analyzing whole frame.
I hope you enjoyed my active quality test, I've not tried that before! As for the crop, I didn't measure it on the A6700, but it wasn't huge and I'd expect it to be similar to the FX30, so I'd say closer to the 1.1 mark. You can see the impact on my stabilization and vlogging footage.
When you mention the X-S20, it should have 7 stops IBIS vs 5 stops on the Sony, shouldn't it beat the Sony in stabilisation? - the open gate 6.2k and no overheating issues are quite compelling on the X-S20, would you say you prefer one over the other overall?
What they quote and what you get are two different things - I found their IBIS to be similar. Please check out my XS20 review for some comparisons and examples.
@@cameralabs sadly IBIS stops don’t seem to be measured (or stated?) in a consistent fashion. 5 stops on a panny for example is usually much better than 5 stops on a Sony as an example. It would be nice for it to be standardized, somewhat like the way weather sealing is being done now.
@@gordon3988 to be fair they do try and standardise a way of measuring shake compensation, but everyone and every situation is different. I can only report on my actual findings and my own tests. Everyone's mileage varies!
07:00 Could have sworn there was a slight wink there when you suggested it was worth keeping an eye on OM/Panasonic to see what they have planned 😄 Hoping to see something soon, particularly from Panasonic
How is autofocus for video? I have the a6400 and continual autofocus in 4k/30 video recording only works when the a6400 is connected to an external display via HDMI cable (which turns off the internal display while making the camera prone to overheating). I have it on a tripod and I am sitting ca. 1,5 m in front of the camera on a carpet in most of my videos, and that's a huge challenge for the a6400 and comes with quite a few issues. Is this improved in the a7000?
I show the AF for video in the review! It worked great for me, but then it also did for the 6400 which I use for many of my videos, albeit never with an external recorder
If I am using the Manual mode (M), then I chose a certain Picture Profile (PP), will the PP be applied to both videos and still photos? Or just to videos when you press record and not to still photos when you press the photo shutter?
I am looking for sony a6700 and FX 30 for a TH-cam channel. Don't know which one to go with as my main thing is video only and longer videos might get this a6700 get hot while recording. Where fx30 has a fan I won't be having any hearing issue in that,
I'm still a beginner in videography, how come 4k 120p will produce 4k 100p video tho,and 4k60p produce 4k50p ? Or is it you converted them to lower framerate in post processing ?
I live in PAL land, so it's a habit for me to film in 25, 50 and 100p, but the same quality and features generally apply to 30, 60 and 120 respectively
I'm halfway through it, but got sidelined by these new releases, and now it looks like not being completed until September timeframe! But I am working on it!
I just purchased an a6600 from Amazon for $1000 but im still within the return window. Do you think i ought to return it and get this instead? Love your videos!
@@blujan93 the 6700 benefits for video over the 6600 are 4k at 50-120p, uncropped 4k at 30p, USB webcam support at 4k 30 and much better 1080 quality, plus a screen that flips to the side not on top. If you won't exploit these, stick with the 6600.
@@cameralabs I currently have a Canon 7d m2 and have a Canon EF 400 f5/6L to it I think it's time to upgrade. From what I understand, the R7 wins in terms of photography, but the A6700 is way ahead in terms of video recording.... Tough choice :)
@@dinen5557 I've checked for you and YES it does record Gyro data for Catalyst, and it works well on the latest version. I just tried it on an unstabilized clip and I've uploaded it for you to try via vimeo.com/manage/videos/845276041 - I also have a couple filmed with IBIS and OSS of race cars on there which you could also try.
Probably not now as it's too late and there's too little demand. I did one for the X100 VI and not enough people watched it to justify the time spent. A lot of the XT5's movie capabilities are shared with other models though, so have a look at my XH2 video review and you'll see most of what it's about.
Is this a fact that you can use the A6700 as a webcam via usb-c at 4k 30 fps? It seems too good to be true. But I'll buy this camera if it can do this. Thank you!
The 6700 also has 4k 60 and 10 bit 4:2:2, but you're right about the X-S20 having open gate as well as many other benefits - I do mention it in the video, have you watched it all?
I find the A6700 an underwhelming mix of rangefinder style with bad evf, crappy screen and still the worse stabilisation of the major manufacturers but with great focussing. I was hoping for the mythical premium apsc to use with an 200-600mm for birds but sadly not. Maybe it could work with a good external monitor.
I honestly don't know where this idea of a high-end APSC from Sony has come from. I've seen people talk about it in rumours for years, but it never comes even after all these time. I'm pretty sure THIS is their high-end APSC offering and if anyone wants a better EVF, twin slots etc, they'll be directed to the A7 III and A7 IV etc. I hope I'm wrong, but so far it's not looking like this camera is in the pipeline.
@@cameralabs Nikon's popular D500 provided hope that some manufacturer might develop a similar high end mirrorless APSC model and for a while Sony appeared to be the most likely candidate, however neither Sony, Canon or Nikon have given any real inkling that such a camera might emerge, they have only gone for developing lower end APSC. I'm beginning to conclude such a camera may never exist and its either full frame in "APSC" mode or MFT
Great review; it seems to do what most folks need quite well! Didn’t make your coveted ‘Highly recommended” like the new Fuji, but still recommended. Will it replace your 6400…my guess no, and only because the 6400 still works well in the studio.
I love this camera unfortunately, it will be quite bulky for me to take this fellow around whenever i go for travelling. Therefore compact camera is much suitable for me. Thank you for the great reviews !
If you don't need it's video abilities, it's not the camera to look at for compactness. If you need it's video abilities, then it doesn't get more compact without overheating even quicker.
Fantastic in-depth review, Gordon! This is an impressive APS-C rig. I chose the Fujifilm SX-20 instead, mainly for Fuji's colors. But this would have been a fine choice even for someone like me who mainly shoots stills.
UHD is a kind of done in 2023, if one wants to take video a kind of serious or creative. inho Sony is slowly loosing ground to competition. Great AF alone is not enough anymore. At least the A6x series is a kind of cheap. And the 3rd party lenses most of all.
What a slightly disappointing camera. Shame Sony has not come up with any magic solution to the overheating in 4K60. DPreview's overheating test result was abysmal for this camera.
Seems that you, Gerald and Jordan have all had different overheating experiences, with Jordan's being the worst, and Gerald's being the best. Oh, and Fro had some overheating issues too (I think it was 30 minutes at 4K 24p in an approximately 80F / 27C room). At $1,400 it is pretty inexpensive, but it would have been nicer if they had charged closer to the FX30 price and included a better LCD and EVF, second card slot, and more resistance to overheating. (I understand the FX30 has those features, but it doesnt have a mechanical shutter IIRC, so can't use it with flash for stills.) However, got to commend Sony for keeping the price down. My a6500 cost the same $1,400 when I got it new way back when it was launched, so basically Sony's pricing has benen inflation resistant.
@@cameralabs Undone claims he lives in Canada. However, all of his latest reviews of Sony cams have glowing non-overheating conclusions. That may be true, but I'll trust the guys & gals who shoot in the hot muggy sunny weather of Florida way more than Canada as far as overheating issues go. Don't forget affiliate sales :) 😎😎
If I slowed down, the video would be too long for most people, not to mention the algorithm hates longer videos. You can always playback at reduced speed, maybe with subtitles?
This câmera would be perfect if the autoframing fearure was in Open gate, 6k video. Just imagine if it could do that maintaining the 4k resolution of each frame. Also, i would love to see 960fps, seen on the zv1, but in 1080p. I wonder why hfr vídeo is só bad treated. It even disappear from the zv1 Mark II. What do you think Gordon? Lastely, i would love to see the 6k Open gate of the fuji s20 compared to the 4k of the a6700. Thanks a lot
@@filipelollita806 they scale-up however many pixels are remaining after the crop to whatever you're filming in. So if you're filming in 4k, the final file will still be 4k in size BUT the actual amount of detail will inevitably vary as it's scaling up a lower res image as it 'zooms'. Not ideal, and if you're looking you can see it in some extreme cases - for example, a 2x digital zoom would mean you're dropping from 4k to 1080p. This is why it'd be great to have ALL of the sensor to play with in a high res open gate mode.
@@cameralabs yes i which the Sony had Open gate. What about hfr vídeo? Are big brands giving up on that? I didnt mind having 960fps, with a big crop, but in 1080p
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Amazing. I have been watching your videos since I was a child and owning a camera seemed like a dream, today I have bought the 6700 and here I am watching yet another of your reviews. You're doing a truly great job. Much love.🎉
Thanks for your support!
Finally competent 1080p video from a Sony camera! Let's party like it's 2010 🥳🎈
Thanks so much Gordon, you've answered a query I had about the autotracking feature being able to be output uncropped also to an external monitor. Great review!
Greatly informative video. Rolling shutter tests with 6400 were very useful. Thanks.
Thanks!
Good to see that 1080p video quality has improved!
Can we compare 1080p quality with any other cameras?
For anyone interested in a Sony camera including the A6700 looking to record 25p or 30p framerates using h.265 just note that Sony cameras do not support 25p and 30p using h.265, but only h.264.
We need open gate.
Yea, Im considering X-S20 just because of open gate. Its a game changer, so much flexilibility in post...
I like m43 open gate has 4:3 aspect ratio, even better for post.
Amen
Yes, open gate is awesome❤!
You don't need it man. In fact,its a feature that vast majority don't use and its simple. Crazy amount of data and you need quite powerful computer. Just use 4k and make sure you get the framing right. This is how you become a better videographer. Don't rely on cropping. Sometimes its useful but i doubt people will use it often
excellent review, appreciate all of your effort
Thanks, they take ages!
🔴This This is the camera to go for / for those who dare to skip the full frame sony universe 💗 finally the better battery And the record button in the same spot as the A7iv ... sadly they missed to introduce a second sd card slot 🤔
Standard stabilization looked decent. I think IBIS is improving. I think this will be my vlogging camera instead of the ZVE1. I’m not even using full frame lenses on it. It would be better to use my APSC lenses on an APSC body.
thank you for all the useful things you do, shining thru with your love of art by camera
The Sony a6700 has to be the perfect camera when shooting 4K60 in the minus seventy degree Northern Lights shoot which all dedicated hitechies need to go in January 2024. The camera will quickly overheat, warm your hands nice and toasty in a few minutes. Then you can stuff it in your backpack. With no Northern Light footage, because the Aurora Gods will be laughing at you with your latest adventure. As soon as that cam hits the bottom of your backpack & freezes solid, the greatest aurora display ever will explode overhead. So, all the AI genius guys & gals, hurry, rush get three of these cams for your next Siberian or Alaskan shoot. 😎😎
It would be great to have a dedicated X-S20 vs A6700 :) - After watching both reviews, I still have some questions:
1. How do they compare in low light video?
2. What is the dynamic range difference in video, are they both 14 stops?
3. Is the FLOG2 1250 ISO on the X-S20 noticeably worse/noisier than the ISO800 with SLOG3 on the Sony?
4. Maybe some more IBIS testing of X-S20 vs A6700 with a comparable i.e. 13mm lens instead of the 8mm extreme option
5. Side by side autofocus for talking head, does the Fuji still lose you?
6. Personally, for video, which one do you think overall is better?
Best review of a6700, everything checked, thank you!
Thankyou! Did you see my video for photography too?
I wish they would have had better IBIS, considering there is so much space available for the sensor to move around in the APSC sized format.
Typical Sony, recycling as much stuff as possible. Sad, but at least Active Stabe is usable now, not like ZV-E10
I wish it were better too, but it does seem to be improved over the 6600 at least
Good job mate. I got to know everything i wanted to know ❤
Are you able to test it’s USB webcam streaming? Quality, overheating and how long it lasts plugged into the PC. FX30 can only do 4k in 14FPS in USB while this can do 4k30.
I'm also wondering about this. I'm planning to get the A6700 as a second photo shooter aside my A7III but I'm even more leaning towards it replacing my A6400 for the main headshot when livestreaming. I've never had issues with any of these cameras when they ran with dummy batteries (also my A5100) for 7-8 hours of livestreaming/conferencing per day.
But you're pointing at USB streaming so I'm just wondering if @cameralabs also has a tip here. Will I be able to both livestream and power the camera with the same USB-C cable? Hm.... Otherwise I have a set of dummy batteries... Cheers!
Great test! Still this camera is not good for me. Unfortunatelly for photography it is underspeced in terms of used components (shutter speed, sync and drive modes both mechanical and electronic, EVF, screen, 1 cardslot) and photographic extra features, while in terms of video it is no match in terms of slow motion to my GH6. Difference in video specs are not enough to replace GH6, and in terms of wildlife photography it is not enough to replace Canon R7. Sadly. I was sure I was going to buy it. But I will pass and wait for a6900, a7000 or R7 II
The GH6 is an excellent camera and one I feel many have forgotten about.
Any chance Sony can release a firmware update that closes the shutter when the lens is off? Dust and Sony seem synonymous for me.
Also a bit of a mystery why there is a record button for video when you have a dial to select video mode - why not just use the shutter button and then gain another custom button?
You can reassign the buttons anyway you like.
Still the best. Your reviews are the best Gordon. I night choose the fuji s20, with Open gate . The auto framing is really great, but it would be a deram if you could Stay in 4k resolution, after framing.
Thanks! I put a LOT of work into them!
I would like to see a full A6700 vs Fuji X-S20 comparison with tests. There doesn't seem to be a single comparison of these two cameras on TH-cam to date other than the boring side by side specs videos
I have the Sony a6400, the Sony AX53 (camcorder) and the Lumix G85 as my primary 4K video cameras and I use them all generally at 30 fps. The a6400 in particular, I think should have had some scan rate options where possible. For example, they could have made the 30 fps scan an optional alternative at 24 fps. This way, I would have had the option to decide whether I wanted the (theoretically) better image quality of the slower scan or the less "warping" of the faster scans. I think I would chose the 30 fps scan even when recording at 24 fps. Other people might make even different choices. Also, I would appreciate having 36 fps and 48 fps frame rate options.
One thing you didn't mention, how is the autofocus in 120 and 240 fps modes? Does it work just as well as normally?
Only channel I watch for camera reviews, great video as always. If you compare ZVE-1 and A6700 for Hybrid shooter which one would you recomend? Is only diffrence is low light?
Weeeeell, the ZVE1 does give you the A7SIII sensor, so it depends if you prefer its capabilities, like readout and no crops to the FX30 sensor in the A6700. Do check out my ZVE1 review for some comparisons.
@@cameralabs Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my question🔥
Gee, I wish they would have worked out a way to run power zoom lenses alongside that AI framing.
That would be neat
Wow, what a great review! Thank you, great job
You're welcome!
just bought Sony A6700 and whole set Kase filters. Hope it's worthy.
@gordonlaing Thanks for your prompt review Gordon. Would you be able to do a comparison between this and the Fuji XS20? Do you recommend one over the other?
There's pros and cons to both of them, so you have to weigh up stuff like, do I value cropped 4k 120 more or less than open gate 6k? I've made a detailed review on the XS20, so do give that a watch too, plus my other 6700 video!
If it does overheat like in some tests I'll probably need to buy the FX30 but I have managed with the hacked a6500 without it overheating for me ever
Thanks for this, not that many reviews out going into detail about video. Can this camera film 1080p 120fps in "100M 10-bit"? It's not listed on the Sony website.
I can't remember and it's gone back to Sony now, but there are some restrictions for 4k 100-120, so I would be surprised if it can't.
@@cameralabs Ok, thanks. I guess the framerate is decent when recording S&Q 10-bit, it seems it's 89Mbps on the A7iv.
Can I connect an external monitor via HDMI, and not lose face tracking autofocus?
I'm sorry, I didn't try that
@@cameralabs No problem Gordon. Thanks for your excellent review as always!
@@RealTechnoPanda if you find out, let me know, and also whether it allows you to record for longer externally at 4k 50-60p.
I absoluteely love that you test image quality with active steadyshot! Thanks!! 🥰
I've recently got Fuji X-H2S and now Im curious if I should go with X-S20 or A6700 as secondary cam for handheld work. Do you plan to make such direct comparison? Both very light and compact bodies. Ideal for travel.
Sony has 4k120, Fuji has open gate. Tough.
Yeah, I think I'd find open gate more useful considering the Sony 4k 120 is so heavily cropped.
Open gate every time
@@cameralabs But Sony has 11mm f1.8 too :((( nothing like this for Fuji...
I've decided that I will rent X-S20, FX30 and R7 to see for myself which is best option for me.
Im quite unimpressed with X-H2S tbh, there is no wide area af in video at all and it works way worse than Panasonics with DFD in my case (DFD is woobly, but its intelligent in wide area mode).
Im curious if Canon that everybody praises for AF would be a good solution.
@@cameralabs I would rent A6700 but ofc nobody has it yet, FX30 should give me same image.
If only Lumix S5 II had less crop in 4k60 or pixelbinned full-width I would go with it... best stab, great af in wide, best ergonomics, open gate, has playhead when you play video in camera (Fuji X-H2S has just forward/backward buttons like walkman, useless)
@@cameralabs and quick idea that maybe other people will find useful - consider testing autofocus with objects too, general wide area af. One person will record unboxing of sneakers, another one record DIY in his garage, another one want to make food recipe videos. People record way more than just themselfes and its so difficult to find "general AF" test.
Face autofocus on Fuji is great, but it fails at anything "random" - it falls back to focusing whatever is nearest without analyzing whole frame.
Do you know what the crop factor is with Active Steady Shot? I haven't been able to find if it's the same as the fx30 (1.1ish) or 1.45 like the ZVe10
I hope you enjoyed my active quality test, I've not tried that before! As for the crop, I didn't measure it on the A6700, but it wasn't huge and I'd expect it to be similar to the FX30, so I'd say closer to the 1.1 mark. You can see the impact on my stabilization and vlogging footage.
When you mention the X-S20, it should have 7 stops IBIS vs 5 stops on the Sony, shouldn't it beat the Sony in stabilisation? - the open gate 6.2k and no overheating issues are quite compelling on the X-S20, would you say you prefer one over the other overall?
What they quote and what you get are two different things - I found their IBIS to be similar. Please check out my XS20 review for some comparisons and examples.
@@cameralabs sadly IBIS stops don’t seem to be measured (or stated?) in a consistent fashion. 5 stops on a panny for example is usually much better than 5 stops on a Sony as an example. It would be nice for it to be standardized, somewhat like the way weather sealing is being done now.
@@gordon3988 to be fair they do try and standardise a way of measuring shake compensation, but everyone and every situation is different. I can only report on my actual findings and my own tests. Everyone's mileage varies!
07:00 Could have sworn there was a slight wink there when you suggested it was worth keeping an eye on OM/Panasonic to see what they have planned 😄
Hoping to see something soon, particularly from Panasonic
G9 II is coming according to rumors
@@AXYZE yep, been refreshing 43 rumors on the hour 😄
We all have our fingers crossed, but in the meantime the GH6 has uncropped 4k 120
How is autofocus for video? I have the a6400 and continual autofocus in 4k/30 video recording only works when the a6400 is connected to an external display via HDMI cable (which turns off the internal display while making the camera prone to overheating). I have it on a tripod and I am sitting ca. 1,5 m in front of the camera on a carpet in most of my videos, and that's a huge challenge for the a6400 and comes with quite a few issues. Is this improved in the a7000?
I show the AF for video in the review! It worked great for me, but then it also did for the 6400 which I use for many of my videos, albeit never with an external recorder
If I am using the Manual mode (M), then I chose a certain Picture Profile (PP), will the PP be applied to both videos and still photos? Or just to videos when you press record and not to still photos when you press the photo shutter?
You can set it up so that different pp are applied for video and stills, but not sure if you need to use a custom mode
it happened to me several times that i forgot to switch off the PP and it was applied to the still photos.
I am looking for sony a6700 and FX 30 for a TH-cam channel. Don't know which one to go with as my main thing is video only and longer videos might get this a6700 get hot while recording. Where fx30 has a fan I won't be having any hearing issue in that,
You won't hear the fan
Is the stabilisation improved when combining IBIS and lens stabilisation (e.g. Tamron 17-70 f2.8)?
Unlikely. It's normally only the camera manufacturer's own lenses that support that
I wanted a camera just for photography. Should i buy 6600 because it is much cheaper than 6700 right now.
Sure, or if you don't need IBIS, how about the 6400?
I'm still a beginner in videography, how come 4k 120p will produce 4k 100p video tho,and 4k60p produce 4k50p ? Or is it you converted them to lower framerate in post processing ?
I live in PAL land, so it's a habit for me to film in 25, 50 and 100p, but the same quality and features generally apply to 30, 60 and 120 respectively
спасибо, наконец то улучшили fullhd, но покупая a6700 я буду снимать только в 4к/60, ради чего и хочу сменить a6400
Any experience with newer catalyst or gyroflow which fixes to rolling shutter and stab with crop now that their is a plugin for Davinci?
It definitely works with catalyst for post stabilisation
Hi Gordon did you give up doing the Canon EOS R6 II for Video review vs A7 IV and S5 II?
I'm halfway through it, but got sidelined by these new releases, and now it looks like not being completed until September timeframe! But I am working on it!
Sony a6700 vs Lumix s5ii for product photography/videography?
either would be fine
I just purchased an a6600 from Amazon for $1000 but im still within the return window. Do you think i ought to return it and get this instead? Love your videos!
Going to use it for streaming and video content
@@blujan93 the 6700 benefits for video over the 6600 are 4k at 50-120p, uncropped 4k at 30p, USB webcam support at 4k 30 and much better 1080 quality, plus a screen that flips to the side not on top. If you won't exploit these, stick with the 6600.
@@cameralabs I can confirm. 1080 quality on the a6400 was worse compared to 4k
Sir, which lense you use making this video. Tell me, please.
I filmed this using Lumix S5 II and 35 1.8
What is preferable to buy for photos and videos of wildlife, birds - Canon r7 or Sony a6700 ?
Whichever one you can afford a big lens for
@@cameralabs I currently have a Canon 7d m2 and have a Canon EF 400 f5/6L to it I think it's time to upgrade. From what I understand, the R7 wins in terms of photography, but the A6700 is way ahead in terms of video recording.... Tough choice :)
Please share your opinion about Fuji XS20 vs sony 6700 for hybrid shooter(mainly video)
Base it on the lenses you can afford and which are in the lineup.
No gyro data for catalyst browse?
I didn't test that part, but I'd assume it would. I'd certainly hope so.
@@cameralabs if you do another video with a6700 please confirm it
@@dinen5557 I've checked for you and YES it does record Gyro data for Catalyst, and it works well on the latest version. I just tried it on an unstabilized clip and I've uploaded it for you to try via vimeo.com/manage/videos/845276041 - I also have a couple filmed with IBIS and OSS of race cars on there which you could also try.
@@cameralabs thank you. I subscribed and liked
fuji xs20 and aony a6700. which has better IBIS?
Depends what you're doing
will there be a xt5 review for video?
Probably not now as it's too late and there's too little demand. I did one for the X100 VI and not enough people watched it to justify the time spent. A lot of the XT5's movie capabilities are shared with other models though, so have a look at my XH2 video review and you'll see most of what it's about.
Is this a fact that you can use the A6700 as a webcam via usb-c at 4k 30 fps? It seems too good to be true. But I'll buy this camera if it can do this. Thank you!
They claim it can, but I didn’t try that feature
Would have been nice to have seen side by side of human flesh tones/overall scene to see how colors and luma differ
I showed my human flesh tones?
@@cameralabs Where did you show a side by side comparison of the two? Please comment timestamp cause I don't see where you did this in the video
Fuji X-S20 is the way better video camera: 6K 30fps OPEN GATE, 4K 60 etc. 10bit 4:2:2, available additional fan, better display
The 6700 also has 4k 60 and 10 bit 4:2:2, but you're right about the X-S20 having open gate as well as many other benefits - I do mention it in the video, have you watched it all?
Is it worth the upgrade from the a6500?
A6500 has same sensor as A6600 and A6400, so you can use my results from the review to decide.
hi which lens did you use for this 18:26
The 70-350. All the long views, cars, birds etc were with that lens.
I loose or theres nothing about gyro stab in review?
I forgot to mention it, but it should record the gyro data for use with catalyst.
I find the A6700 an underwhelming mix of rangefinder style with bad evf, crappy screen and still the worse stabilisation of the major manufacturers but with great focussing. I was hoping for the mythical premium apsc to use with an 200-600mm for birds but sadly not. Maybe it could work with a good external monitor.
I honestly don't know where this idea of a high-end APSC from Sony has come from. I've seen people talk about it in rumours for years, but it never comes even after all these time. I'm pretty sure THIS is their high-end APSC offering and if anyone wants a better EVF, twin slots etc, they'll be directed to the A7 III and A7 IV etc. I hope I'm wrong, but so far it's not looking like this camera is in the pipeline.
@@cameralabs Nikon's popular D500 provided hope that some manufacturer might develop a similar high end mirrorless APSC model and for a while Sony appeared to be the most likely candidate, however neither Sony, Canon or Nikon have given any real inkling that such a camera might emerge, they have only gone for developing lower end APSC. I'm beginning to conclude such a camera may never exist and its either full frame in "APSC" mode or MFT
Great review; it seems to do what most folks need quite well! Didn’t make your coveted ‘Highly recommended” like the new Fuji, but still recommended. Will it replace your 6400…my guess no, and only because the 6400 still works well in the studio.
Thanks and yes, no need to replace my A6400 for static product b-roll, especially as I film in 4k rather than 1080.
Is this good at 1080 60p?
Didn't I show that? 1080 60 on this model should be same as 1080 50
thx
1400 dollars? It's over 2000 dollars where I live
It's 1400 USD, so presumably you're not in the US. I'm not either.
I love this camera unfortunately, it will be quite bulky for me to take this fellow around whenever i go for travelling. Therefore compact camera is much suitable for me. Thank you for the great reviews !
You're welcome!
If you don't need it's video abilities, it's not the camera to look at for compactness. If you need it's video abilities, then it doesn't get more compact without overheating even quicker.
hello, Can a6700 auto framing in vertical mode?
You mean with the camera turned by 90 degrees? I'm not sure, but I think it would. Good question.
Can You check it? Its feature that depends on to buy or not to buy :)@@cameralabs
@@biker_matt8310 mine was a loaner that was returned two weeks after the test, sorry! I can only test the next time I have one with a similar feature.
ok. I checked it in Sony Store and it works for 90 turning. It auto framing verticaly then with correct cropping person@@cameralabs
@@biker_matt8310 thanks for confirming!
Fantastic in-depth review, Gordon! This is an impressive APS-C rig. I chose the Fujifilm SX-20 instead, mainly for Fuji's colors. But this would have been a fine choice even for someone like me who mainly shoots stills.
Thanks! The XS20 is still a fine choice and has many benefits.
Sony should remove those strap lugs
UHD is a kind of done in 2023, if one wants to take video a kind of serious or creative.
inho Sony is slowly loosing ground to competition. Great AF alone is not enough anymore. At least the A6x series is a kind of cheap. And the 3rd party lenses most of all.
What a slightly disappointing camera. Shame Sony has not come up with any magic solution to the overheating in 4K60. DPreview's overheating test result was abysmal for this camera.
It's a small camera so I'm not surprised. 4k 50 upwards is always going to require a larger camera or active cooling for longer times.
I'm still clinging on to my A6000 until it's last breath.
I think i've also shown it's still a fine camera!
The best and economic solution - if you are not a videographer.
Seems that you, Gerald and Jordan have all had different overheating experiences, with Jordan's being the worst, and Gerald's being the best. Oh, and Fro had some overheating issues too (I think it was 30 minutes at 4K 24p in an approximately 80F / 27C room). At $1,400 it is pretty inexpensive, but it would have been nicer if they had charged closer to the FX30 price and included a better LCD and EVF, second card slot, and more resistance to overheating. (I understand the FX30 has those features, but it doesnt have a mechanical shutter IIRC, so can't use it with flash for stills.) However, got to commend Sony for keeping the price down. My a6500 cost the same $1,400 when I got it new way back when it was launched, so basically Sony's pricing has benen inflation resistant.
We all have different temperature rooms and airflow.
@@cameralabs Undone claims he lives in Canada. However, all of his latest reviews of Sony cams have glowing non-overheating conclusions. That may be true, but I'll trust the guys & gals who shoot in the hot muggy sunny weather of Florida way more than Canada as far as overheating issues go. Don't forget affiliate sales :) 😎😎
You flick on up and down so quick i dont get any of it. So if you want to passn on your knowledge "SLOW DOWN".
If I slowed down, the video would be too long for most people, not to mention the algorithm hates longer videos. You can always playback at reduced speed, maybe with subtitles?
Nice!
Nothing new
This câmera would be perfect if the autoframing fearure was in Open gate, 6k video. Just imagine if it could do that maintaining the 4k resolution of each frame. Also, i would love to see 960fps, seen on the zv1, but in 1080p. I wonder why hfr vídeo is só bad treated. It even disappear from the zv1 Mark II. What do you think Gordon? Lastely, i would love to see the 6k Open gate of the fuji s20 compared to the 4k of the a6700. Thanks a lot
I've mentioned open gate to them before but they don't seem interested in the consumer products, which remember don't even have DCI C4k
@@cameralabs ok, Gordon, about the auto framing, is The size of the frame 1080p? After the crop, i mean?
@@filipelollita806 they scale-up however many pixels are remaining after the crop to whatever you're filming in. So if you're filming in 4k, the final file will still be 4k in size BUT the actual amount of detail will inevitably vary as it's scaling up a lower res image as it 'zooms'. Not ideal, and if you're looking you can see it in some extreme cases - for example, a 2x digital zoom would mean you're dropping from 4k to 1080p. This is why it'd be great to have ALL of the sensor to play with in a high res open gate mode.
@@cameralabs yes i which the Sony had Open gate. What about hfr vídeo? Are big brands giving up on that? I didnt mind having 960fps, with a big crop, but in 1080p
@@filipelollita806 yeah that was mostly Sony doing that, but they needed stacked sensors to do it.