00:14 🗣 Nick Land and Richard Spencer discuss Trump, ethnostates, and what defines a "Real American." 02:01 🇺🇸 Post-1965 immigrants considered Americans, reflecting on changes in U.S. immigration policy. 05:22 🧬 Debate on national community's foundation: biological or ideological. 07:11 🌐 Discussing the ideological core and identity of the United States. 10:25 🔍 Examining the viability of the American national project amidst change. 13:39 🎨 The impact of ethnic diversity on national identity, especially in the anglosphere. 16:19 🌍 Nations as cultural constructs rather than strictly ethnic or territorial. 21:15 ❓Doubting the transformation of America into an ethnic-centric "nation-state." 26:23 ✍ National identities like "Britishness" exposed as constructed narratives. 32:06 🔄 Critique of "whiteness" and call for identities with progressive ideals. 39:12 🌀 Discussing universality and evolving identities for future cohesion. 44:58 💪 Examining Hungary's resistance to multicultural structures as a case study. 48:41 🔮 Predicting formation of large geopolitical blocs amid modern challenges. 51:48 🇪🇺 The EU described as a regulatory body questioning its state legitimacy. 53:52 🛡 Eastern European nations balance NATO benefits without challenging its power dynamics.
Very jarring seeing Kantbot respectively addressing Land and Spencer in light of all his X material (especially with his "we should do a part 2"). Concerning his comment on "Black Nationalism," I think it really helped contextualize what he was trying to say when he told a journalist that he was a "black nationalist, tankie, and terf." He's here explicitly situating blacks along a progressive developmentalist road, and by comparing them to pre-nationalized Germans, is suggesting they're farther behind on this road when compared to whites. With whites, he's saying that they're too spiritually and economically advanced for nationalism, that to partake in nationalism would be taking a step backwards. How is this not just white supremacism? Land's comments on whiteness are another thing I took an interest in. "Whiteness" in its most common usage is used almost exclusively in a negative or critical sense by sociologists - many of them white people ("33%") - so that it can then be dismantled or deconstructed. A funny saying by Land in one of his xenosystems blogs on "whiteness" concerned how, especially among Anglo whites attracted to ideologies opposed to centralized state power, whiteness' (or more accurately Angloness) most paradoxical characteristic is resisting organization under the unifying banner of something like "whiteness." Richard, as a Germanophile, absolutely cannot stand this state of affairs. If time has shown us anything with these three, it's that they've all drifted further and further apart from each other. Kantbot (alongside Logo and MrScientism) in the direction of Third-Worldist conservatism, Land with his project of "Anglotheosophical Oblique Escalation," alongside existing as this Old Sage for e/acc techies, and Richard as this politically detached (semi-ironic defense of Biden cratering into full-on nihilism - "2024 will be the last election") advocate for "Apolloism" and reviewing Stanley Kubrick movies.
Could you possibly enhance the Nick Land vs Pete Wolfendale debate or the blockhain spacetime video(they have a terrible quality)? Nice video,it would have been cool if Yarvin and Spencer had a debate.
Rightly or wrongly, the decision has already been made long ago. There were many reasons why it fell that way. Now the only question remains as to how to make it work optimally for all, the most good for as many people as possible. I see a state like Singapore as being the best example of how a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic state, can work extremely effectively and harmoniously, but it does require mild authoritarian leadership to bring all that diversity together.
00:14 🗣 Nick Land and Richard Spencer discuss Trump, ethnostates, and what defines a "Real American."
02:01 🇺🇸 Post-1965 immigrants considered Americans, reflecting on changes in U.S. immigration policy.
05:22 🧬 Debate on national community's foundation: biological or ideological.
07:11 🌐 Discussing the ideological core and identity of the United States.
10:25 🔍 Examining the viability of the American national project amidst change.
13:39 🎨 The impact of ethnic diversity on national identity, especially in the anglosphere.
16:19 🌍 Nations as cultural constructs rather than strictly ethnic or territorial.
21:15 ❓Doubting the transformation of America into an ethnic-centric "nation-state."
26:23 ✍ National identities like "Britishness" exposed as constructed narratives.
32:06 🔄 Critique of "whiteness" and call for identities with progressive ideals.
39:12 🌀 Discussing universality and evolving identities for future cohesion.
44:58 💪 Examining Hungary's resistance to multicultural structures as a case study.
48:41 🔮 Predicting formation of large geopolitical blocs amid modern challenges.
51:48 🇪🇺 The EU described as a regulatory body questioning its state legitimacy.
53:52 🛡 Eastern European nations balance NATO benefits without challenging its power dynamics.
Is this real?
Had no clue this happened
Forreal
A Nick Land interview enhanced by AI is the most fitting and complementary thing ever.
Very jarring seeing Kantbot respectively addressing Land and Spencer in light of all his X material (especially with his "we should do a part 2"). Concerning his comment on "Black Nationalism," I think it really helped contextualize what he was trying to say when he told a journalist that he was a "black nationalist, tankie, and terf." He's here explicitly situating blacks along a progressive developmentalist road, and by comparing them to pre-nationalized Germans, is suggesting they're farther behind on this road when compared to whites. With whites, he's saying that they're too spiritually and economically advanced for nationalism, that to partake in nationalism would be taking a step backwards. How is this not just white supremacism? Land's comments on whiteness are another thing I took an interest in. "Whiteness" in its most common usage is used almost exclusively in a negative or critical sense by sociologists - many of them white people ("33%") - so that it can then be dismantled or deconstructed. A funny saying by Land in one of his xenosystems blogs on "whiteness" concerned how, especially among Anglo whites attracted to ideologies opposed to centralized state power, whiteness' (or more accurately Angloness) most paradoxical characteristic is resisting organization under the unifying banner of something like "whiteness." Richard, as a Germanophile, absolutely cannot stand this state of affairs. If time has shown us anything with these three, it's that they've all drifted further and further apart from each other. Kantbot (alongside Logo and MrScientism) in the direction of Third-Worldist conservatism, Land with his project of "Anglotheosophical Oblique Escalation," alongside existing as this Old Sage for e/acc techies, and Richard as this politically detached (semi-ironic defense of Biden cratering into full-on nihilism - "2024 will be the last election") advocate for "Apolloism" and reviewing Stanley Kubrick movies.
This was insanely well done account of affairs. Good on you.
In 1800, saying germans were behind France and England wasn't necessarily anti-german racism was it?
Thank you for upload! Always interested in more Land.
Its too bad Nick Land is too scared to talk to Zizek. I'll settle for a Zizek and Dugin debate, though
@@TiranoBorgeano He probably just doesn't want to be sprayed with spit.
Get impression Nick is just sat there bored
I wish I knew about this earlier, interesting pair
"being born in a barn doesn't make one a horse"......signing a piece of paper doesn't make one an American or anything else for that matter...
how long ago was this?
long enough ago that Kantbot was actually based
@@Greatermememan What happened to him?
@@GreatermememanNot supporting Mencius Yarvin and Bronze Age Rabbi doesn’t mean you’re not based.
Could you possibly enhance the Nick Land vs Pete Wolfendale debate or the blockhain spacetime video(they have a terrible quality)? Nice video,it would have been cool if Yarvin and Spencer had a debate.
I have done both of those 😀
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@@lecturevids2404 Thanks a lot,maybe Fisher is next cuz his lectures are also of poor quality?
How was this made?
did this happen one month ago?!
let's make the Part 2 happen
Rightly or wrongly, the decision has already been made long ago. There were many reasons why it fell that way. Now the only question remains as to how to make it work optimally for all, the most good for as many people as possible.
I see a state like Singapore as being the best example of how a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic state, can work extremely effectively and harmoniously, but it does require mild authoritarian leadership to bring all that diversity together.
I don't understand, neither of those are Nick's voice?
Nick lands voice is good
interesting
Is this pre-Charlottesville? Sounds it!
Ty
Ethnostates now please
These guys are smart?
At least land is.
@@goodleshoesLand?
@@balsosnell2064 at least more than Spencer
Land used to be but it's not anymore, the white supremacist never was
@@maykhem, not really.
Is this real or is this AI?
The voices are enhanced with AI to remove background noise, the podcast is real.
@@lecturevids2404 thanks
wow, bigot on bigot crime
Glib useless comment.