All this time its stood and caused wonder and awe...we were so intrigued with the place.....I hope who ever did this pays the price big time!! I hope it's not shoved under the carpet and a full investigation is done and I really hope they dont touch those grounds untill they are found....nor insurance paid out untill they find the culprit.....this is soo sad and beyond belief that someone could do this.....really really tragic!!!!
@@Drevilbreakfast they can’t rebuild it as it goes against the building code, if they rebuilt it they’d have to build it straight and square not squinty
They didn't do it for insurance, it's got something to do with the pub being in the way and having ownership of the access road. Basically destroyed out of spite stemming from an argument.
I live in Birmingham and there’s so many pubs that have suspiciously caught fire over the years going back to the 90s. Those that aren’t burning down are slowly being closed and rebuilt as something else too
Nice to see some places are being used but shame some are being demolished or destroyed by fire or arson . Definitely reasons behind some of them that do
Absolutely heartbreaking, I cried seeing it demolished this beautiful rare gem of ours is gone forever, only thing we got is our precious memories of the pub, lost for the next generations, our heritage is going but we need to keep it! Xxxxxx
This place should NOT be forgotton!! A memorial or something to say it was there it was sooo special another piece of our heritage gone!! RIP Crooked House and thankyou for all your fond memories.....I really hope they find your destroyer and destroy them as they destroyed you!! ❤
It's essentially an open secret at this point, the only problem is being able to prove it in court although obvious as the owners can likely afford decent representation who can argue for plausible deniability regarding all the evidence.
Do not always hold police responsible. Who sold this building, who gained monetarily, who bought this building. The police are overwhelmed with all the as#holes in the world. Who sold it?
From someone living 100 miles away, this is an absolute tragedy and this case should be a turning point. The whole story needs to be investigated and reported. .. but one must ask why was not such a brilliant building listed?
The same thing appened to the Cock Inn in Rubery, 200yr old pub got burnt down. I drove past it on Friday and there is a massive building taking up the whole of the site. :(
That's sad tbf bud can't believe another one seems like it's happening to all old stuff purchased . I'm surprised hawne colliery is still there and that got brought a whole back . Things like this should be converted into new stuff keeping the original architecture and stuff
@@turbostream7925 my new bike is so awesome bud had 71% battery after 31 miles and come back to Halesowen over clent . I'll have to do a ride to Birmingham on it
It went up for sale 60k ish land around it worthless with a grade 2 listed building smack in the middle !! Ah ha no grade 2 listed building anymore the land becomes worth alot !!
Seeing the remains of the crooked house pub must be really hurt and heartbreaking that the history is gone and seeing the road block to the pub is a big mystery but could it be arson who knows. RIP Crooked house pub 1765-2023.
It looks like the foreign owner did it. The owner is Islamic and in London as well as elsewhere they are buying pubs and burning them claiming 'arson'. One pub took two attempts. The night before the road was blocked with rubble. The next day it went up in flames. As soon people starting talking of restoration the diggers were there knocking it down on a Sunday morning (strange coincidence and you can't hire such equipment in that time-frame; looks very premeditated.
What a terrible loss for The Black Country and its history. As others have said, shame it could not have been saved, or bricks moved and rebuilt at The Black Country Museum or Avoncroft Museum of Buildings. Great and timely video.
Thanks mate enjoyed making this one to remember it's history now it's gone I agree it should have gone to the museum.. there was time to save it but it's to late
@@MidlandsOutdoors It could have been done and the Black Country Museum were prepared to do so. The one obstacle was that the BCM could not afford the asking price. No doubt the new owners wanted to get in there and make a profit as quickly as possible and didn't give a damn about the history and nostalia associated with the building. They should be forced to re build the Crooked House at the BCM out of their own pockets. They think they are above the law and its time the law taught them otherwise.
Crazy to see it’s now come to light that the new owners are the company next door and there has been access disputes between Marstons brewery and them in the past. Even Andy Street Mayor of West Midlands is kicking off about it so should get some political weight behind finding the truth out.
I can Remember this from 1986 when I worked in Birmingham, It was just 3 months back, I said to my Daughters , A place you must go to see . Then I see this on the news . Never forgot the visit . What a loss. Would be interest in more footage. Thank you for putting this on TH-cam.
@@MidlandsOutdoors its intentional councils part of it all as they pass these plans and don't listen to all and many objections about everything. Like with the Dudley hippodrome a building perfectly usable to be reused for something but they want to demolish it for a car park or patch of grass for a university college campus for courses all local colleges already teach the subject in nearby areas.
Such a shame to lose such an historical building. Had the pleasure of drinking in there a few times. Deffo an insurance job to make way for development. Think the guide price was £675,000 but it was never going to be used as a pub again, means only one thing…. Land.
I bet was really nice inside bud cool architecture and stuff . Yh 100% insurance job owners who are greedy and after profit and revenue rather than save a historical building . Absolutely discusting could have been saved
It will be investigated but I swear we all have to be there to protest any building being put on this plot unless its a rebuild of the Crooked House or watch our history get turned into cheapy made flats
Hello chief suspect here please remove any police presence from the crime scene it's only arson. So sad and utterly disgusting four pubs gone the same way by me but none in the same league. Hopefully get a council grant for the perpetrators as par vermin.
@@MidlandsOutdoors oooh yes some wonderful memories, my uncle used to run the Green Man pub down the road in Swindon and used to pop in the crooked house on the way or pop in on the way back from Bridgnorth or Bewdley
I had the privilege also to investigate this beautiful location, itself at night was wonderful with the spirits, hope they have fun causing chaos for the land developers in time to come, gonna absolutely miss this place 💔 xxxxx
@@SaraMommyof3 I saw a full a full apparition while standing outside the crooked house the night i investigated there, I saw a man late 50s dressed in 1930s clothes peek from behind the wall of the left hand side window, he was only there for about 10 seconds then disappeared back behind the wall. I went back inside the pub and asked the barmaid behind the bar who the chap was that I saw and her reply was "no one is allowed upstairs as it was out of bounds to all staff and customers" as it was so dangerous
Well done lad. Great little video of a local icon. I live in Cheslyn Hay. never been to the pub even though I spent a lot of time over that area. I think its deliberate and I hope the scroats who planned it get some karma very soon. Shoul be a 100 year preservation order on all that land to stop the buggers building on it in their own lifetimes!
Thanks bud appreciate it , I've always wanted to go in this one tonnes of history behind it . Hopefully the owners get what's coming sad to see the way it is at the moment
VERY heavy fines needed but that won't happen the Council would rather broaden a land fill site and then housing all in the name of what it will bring to the area!
This is pretty sad, and Im not even from the UK. So clearly an insurance job, 7 days after new private owner brought it, It was fully on fire in the middle of the night, Roads leading up to the pub had massive piles of dirt which delayed fire fighters from getting closer and also had to walk farther to hook up hoses. It has survived other fires on the past, Look into it, And even a nearrby bomb from the wars (APPARENTLY) Yet somehow a random fire gutted the ENTIRE BUILDING even at the back. Then 2 days later the whole thing was leveled down by an excavator. Oh and by the way the same couple who brought this pub also gutted another old pub in Warwickshire village of Willey.
They should definitely rebuild . I agree punishment is needed including fines especially without permission for demolishment bet Andy street the mayor is fuming
How can something so old that as survived wars just be snuffed out over night I never went there but It was on my bucket List I hope the people who did this are brought to account and judging by what I've seen the local community will not let this rest until they are
visited a couple of times .last time 1998 . very special place . used to deliver petrol before retiring ,love the black country and the people .the industrial revolution was a magical time in history .
Bet it was a nice job tbh . Some nice people around the black country area . I would have loved to have seen some of the industry fire the 90's round oak steel works and a few others
Living in Australian seeing a place i used to go and now find out its gone brought tears to my eyes,,,,i wanted to bring my family and see all these old parts i once visited & now almost all gone
I can imagine tbh proper shame mate that it's gone I never got chance to go inside I wanted to go check it out . Apparently there rebuilding it but it's not gonna be the same it won't have the same values as the old building had
HI THERE i love looking at your vides, i was looking forward to viset the old pub,, i live in WALES, BUT MY gr grandfarther lived inGORNA ,BACK in the 1850tes, before moving to mid wales, He was a nail maker, evenafter moving to wales iam still hoping to visit the GORNAL aeria sometime,pity the old pub has gone, keep up thegood work, all the best from ken parkes
Thanks Ken much appreciate its great to go over some the history in this area really interesting. I've done a latest video close to there called cotwall end another great place to visit if go
It’s such a shame about the pub some people do not care I hope something is done about it even though they’ve just flattened it aswell now I doubt it will all be disposed of 256 year old and flattened in just a few days 😢
I think the police need to get into a deep investigation on this one , grade listed buildings regardless of state should not be demolished it's like hawne colliery by me parts sat on fire but can't be demolished as grade listed
This was not only an old building but it was unique…it’s shocking there wasn’t a preservation order on it. Rebuilding doesn’t bring the Crooked House back sadly but merely a copy. I hope those responsible are punished because this was blatantly deliberate
I've just seen on the news it's terrible seeing it demolished hopefully it gets sorted they have broke laws by demolition without permission, won't be long for the new houses
Alot of people think its been done on purpose for development...must admit I'm one of them...i went there a few times over years...sad to see it destroyed plus dudley Hippodrome facing its final days.
Many memories over the years quiet sad tbf especially now it's flattened . Dudley hippodrome is a shame aswell I might have to get one look before it's gone not sure how far it's gone yet
@MidlandsOutdoors It's been totally gutted inside going on the pictures I have seen online...I guess alot of asbestos was used as its had all the walls stripped inside of back to the brick...so it's not long for demolition now.
i wish i had the money to buy them both. But i think all the people regardless of where we're from need to petition and protest and try make a change about the hippodrome outcome. I've spoken to the someone who works for hippodrome. The council are ignoring every protest from the people as well as all organisations against it. They refuse to talk. The hippodrome could've become part of the Black Country Museum or something as a tourist attraction. That would've brought income in. Could've played old black and white movies and old fashioned snacks or something. At least its a few of our ideas.
Needs the Police to prosecute (but they won’t bother, why do they need to when there are plenty of motorists to catch instead), the Council to enforce the demolition offences, any Planning to be refused for redevelopment and the scum who did this to be forced to rebuilt it brick by brick at whatever cost.needs a petition to be started to whichever Council area this falls within. When our heritage is gone, it is not coming back.
Great video that you have made and great news today about a possible rebuild. The only thing I think will happen is the owners will rather pay a fine than rebuild the pub, but it's down to the council not to back down on it. I live in the south but have visited this pub and just hope for everyone especially the midlands that it is fully restored.
Thank you 😁 fantastic news today about that fingers crossed it gets restored to the way it was they have alot of work to do but hopefully it returns back to it's form of glory
@@andytyrrell5153 According to the internet, whilst an attempt was going to be made to list it, unfortunately they never did get that far. Hence, it's not listed status.
@@philh8288 I know right crazy tbh didn't think it would be this popular goes to show alot of people care about history / heritage. I know a similar old building the Dudley hippodrome that's being demolished and that's got less reputation online than this one and that also dates old
They did it to the old Euston train station decades ago, moved in at midnight before the preservation order was in force, vindictiveness, chucked most of it in the Thames, we managed to save a little, the eradication of our culture has been a 'thing' for a very long time..😮
Fingers crossed it does, if it's the end of the line for this then this is really sad I have a feeling it could get rebuilt brick by brick but it's odd why it got demolished so quick
@@MidlandsOutdoors Like others have basically said you cant hire big machinery that quick as its only been a few days since fire. Machinery that big have to be planned at least 1-2 weeks in advance. The fact the site had no security before fire and no boards on entrances and windows and picture evidence an older man was seen entering the property right before fire, blasting music, locals in that area caught him and took pictures of it. Either trespassing or owner himself. Although we all know what the scenario most likely is. The man had a neon blue padded coat either tanned or light brown skin and white hair like a grandad cut missing hair on top.
I cannot believe it wasn’t already a listed building. It’s iconic 🤷♂. This is a disgrace. I was planning on visiting it this October while on holiday down there. The whole thing stinks, arson and a deliberate act to flatten it and destroy evidence. Need locking up.
Was the building listed, and if not, why did the council not list it. They really need to take more interest in the history within the West Midlands, how can it ever be the same! This is painful and I am devastated. Brought by the wrong people who had no interest in its value to the community. Devastated I tell you. 😭
Sold 2 weeks ago. Application from locals goes to local council to give the Crooked House 'historic/protected' status. Rocks dumped blocking the narrow Lane to the pub. Fire breaks out. Fire brigade cannot reach the building in time, have to lay 40 lengths of hose pipe. Building burns but is not destroyed. Sunday morning diggers mysteriously appear and raise the Crooked House to the ground.... Giving the developer now the chance to build.. luxury flats?
@@MidlandsOutdoors Our churches are being stripped and destroyed also, lead rooves have been stripped from countless churches in the last few years causing massive damage, usually by organised Romanian gangs.
@@MidlandsOutdoors Personally, I reckon those that be, will wait till as the fuss and doodah has died down, then the removed items will start to appear at auction houses, EBay etc. After all, who wouldn't want to buy something of such importance? They'll make a fortune. I also believe they will get a paltry fine and slap on the wrist too. It isn't the first time they have done such a disgusting deed.
If the local police are incompetent then the insurance company must investigate, they will not care about not getting a payout as the land and building is worth more, so they should be criminally investigated too.
It looks like the foreign owner did it. The owner is Islamic and in London as well as elsewhere they are buying historic pubs and burning them claiming 'arson'. One pub took two attempts. The night before the road was blocked with rubble. The next day it went up in flames. As soon people starting talking of restoration the diggers were there knocking it down on a Sunday morning (strange coincidence and you can't hire such equipment in that time-frame); looks very premeditated. Of course as always people will look the other way and say nothing to see here.
In this case Taylor is not, hypothetically an Islamic name even if the family were to convert but maybe Taylors thought we were all infidels to our own history & culture (non believers) They got this wrong, a meet this evening, Friday at 5.45.
Remnant of mudflooding ? funny I live in a house of the same date of 1765 which was on the trefusis estate of which there are no photos or records of but there was a picture of our house with just fields all around it no trace of any manor estate the estate was supposedly demolished in 1850 the first recorded photograph was in 1827 the photo of our house was a decent picture( later than this date) so it can't be before 1850 because the estate and its stables of which our house was part of would still be visible ?
I see in the news two men have been arrested for suspected arson. Hopefully these sill be the first if many - and that they will get what they deserve. Fortunately the public anger has got the mayor and the MP wound up, hopefully the high profile in the media will make sure the police push this to a successful prosecution, for once.
Because the demonilition people were contacted days after this pub went up in flames then being illeagally bulldozed straight after the fire seems more then suspicious to me all in 9 days of this couple buying it
No doubt had it stood much longer it would have been turned into a mini mosque. Anyone objecting would have been arrested and charged with a HATE crime.
Corruption and greed are ruining this country. They should build a pocket park on the site with information about the pub and relics of whats left and give no money to the scumbags who did this. Bring back the gibbett and put those responsible in them on the site for everyone to come and laugh at em.
Whatever current owners build as a business should be boycotted especially by local population. The lane to the Crooked House was a disgraceful mess overgrown and fly tipping mounds plus the odd pothole. Won’t really matter what they build there now it won’t be a nice route to it. Only need to rebuild the original building if just to keep as a tourist attraction.
National Heritage should step in. Have it rebuilt and fully restored to its former glory. Give it a Listed Status and let tourism in the area be a focal point to this iconic building. Start the petition...
Its is very sad you would have loved in side it was so old school last time i went up in 2022 it was not open and too Modern and the farm was gone stream was fall of rubbish frytipping throw out the County rout up, this is a shame but they have been destroying buildings for years walsall has had the same but left to rot mills by wolverhampton train station was rejected by black Country a lot of history around wolves has been left to decay and walsall i never fault a function pub that built customers in and was structure sound just made you feel dizzy would have been demolished
😂 It was a sinking pub. Seems to be an insurance job and obviously will be investigated. But the idea that the locals wanted the building put back together again is laughably british, imagine if the contractors were to take up the job and feel that moral support of the community, 6 years to restore the pub and then finally the reveal...the building is level 😅 oh the outrage would see them petition for the next day demolition.
That's strange tbh possible chance , shame about it tbh future generations will only remember the old photos of it . Hopefully more things get saved in the black country
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Sad day considering the age of the building and its history.
Somats gone on there for sure.
I know right dates so old such a shame , definitely something odd about it all
All this time its stood and caused wonder and awe...we were so intrigued with the place.....I hope who ever did this pays the price big time!! I hope it's not shoved under the carpet and a full investigation is done and I really hope they dont touch those grounds untill they are found....nor insurance paid out untill they find the culprit.....this is soo sad and beyond belief that someone could do this.....really really tragic!!!!
@@juliegreen640 hopefully this one gets looked into proper needs to find out what really happened alot of.people want justice
Hopefully they will have to rebuild it
@@Drevilbreakfast they can’t rebuild it as it goes against the building code, if they rebuilt it they’d have to build it straight and square not squinty
This is nothing short of criminal vandalism, I pray that the insurance company does NOT pay out and those responsible for this are brought to book!
Thats true should be the owners who should pay the fines
They didn't do it for insurance, it's got something to do with the pub being in the way and having ownership of the access road.
Basically destroyed out of spite stemming from an argument.
Not spite - MONEY - they didn't wait for an argument, that wasn't in their plans!@@turnip5359
May the vandals rot in Hell!
Very well said let's see what Andy Street does or doesn't don
I live in Birmingham and there’s so many pubs that have suspiciously caught fire over the years going back to the 90s. Those that aren’t burning down are slowly being closed and rebuilt as something else too
Nice to see some places are being used but shame some are being demolished or destroyed by fire or arson . Definitely reasons behind some of them that do
Its loss is mysterious imo
Especially where HS2 are or have been demolishing.
Absolutely heartbreaking, I cried seeing it demolished this beautiful rare gem of ours is gone forever, only thing we got is our precious memories of the pub, lost for the next generations, our heritage is going but we need to keep it! Xxxxxx
I know so terrible really disheartening tbh should all be saved be not much left soon xxxx
This place should NOT be forgotton!! A memorial or something to say it was there it was sooo special another piece of our heritage gone!! RIP Crooked House and thankyou for all your fond memories.....I really hope they find your destroyer and destroy them as they destroyed you!! ❤
Somebody knows who did this. And we need to find out who. Because this act of vandalism is like kicking every black country Mon in the nuts. Ay it.😢
We all know what has happened here. This is occurring all around the country. If the police can't figure this one out I suggest that they be disbanded
It's essentially an open secret at this point, the only problem is being able to prove it in court although obvious as the owners can likely afford decent representation who can argue for plausible deniability regarding all the evidence.
@@turnip5359 I bet if it was Buckingham palace this happened to the case would be solved very quickly
Could have been spontaneous combustion? 😅
If they build house, hope no one buys them, if they build a house to live in all locals should shun them.
Do not always hold police responsible. Who sold this building, who gained monetarily, who bought this building. The police are overwhelmed with all the as#holes in the world. Who sold it?
From someone living 100 miles away, this is an absolute tragedy and this case should be a turning point. The whole story needs to be investigated and reported. .. but one must ask why was not such a brilliant building listed?
I agree tbh this should have been listed how old it was and the historic interest
@@MidlandsOutdoors i believe 257-8 years old roughly.
@@Huna_MaTaRaNa definitely a old building that dates back a bit
He still would have set fire to it!!!
@@grayukuk yep , 💯 even if it was listed I recon would have been burned either way
I am absolutely gutted to hear this news! My husband took me here on our 2nd date and was a family favourite from then on 😢
That's sad to hear that . Such a shame tbh really disheartening to see it now as it's been demolished.
All that history gone in such a short space of time 😢 A fascinating building that could never be re-created!
The same thing appened to the Cock Inn in Rubery, 200yr old pub got burnt down. I drove past it on Friday and there is a massive building taking up the whole of the site. :(
That's sad tbf bud can't believe another one seems like it's happening to all old stuff purchased . I'm surprised hawne colliery is still there and that got brought a whole back . Things like this should be converted into new stuff keeping the original architecture and stuff
@@MidlandsOutdoors Absolutely agree there Drew.
@@turbostream7925 my new bike is so awesome bud had 71% battery after 31 miles and come back to Halesowen over clent . I'll have to do a ride to Birmingham on it
It went up for sale 60k ish land around it worthless with a grade 2 listed building smack in the middle !! Ah ha no grade 2 listed building anymore the land becomes worth alot !!
@@MrTommymarinetank-lb9wx let's see how quick these houses get thrown up lol be another waste
Seeing the remains of the crooked house pub must be really hurt and heartbreaking that the history is gone and seeing the road block to the pub is a big mystery but could it be arson who knows. RIP Crooked house pub 1765-2023.
It looks like the foreign owner did it. The owner is Islamic and in London as well as elsewhere they are buying pubs and burning them claiming 'arson'. One pub took two attempts. The night before the road was blocked with rubble. The next day it went up in flames. As soon people starting talking of restoration the diggers were there knocking it down on a Sunday morning (strange coincidence and you can't hire such equipment in that time-frame; looks very premeditated.
Absolutely outrageous.
This happens all the time. It common practice the land gets sold for development then they catch fire mysteriously.
What a terrible loss for The Black Country and its history. As others have said, shame it could not have been saved, or bricks moved and rebuilt at The Black Country Museum or Avoncroft Museum of Buildings. Great and timely video.
Thanks mate enjoyed making this one to remember it's history now it's gone I agree it should have gone to the museum.. there was time to save it but it's to late
Taking it down and rebuilding it would have been far too slow a process for certain individuals.
@@vickyhill8156 I could imagine it would be quiet hard to get the structure right
@@MidlandsOutdoors It could have been done and the Black Country Museum were prepared to do so. The one obstacle was that the BCM could not afford the asking price. No doubt the new owners wanted to get in there and make a profit as quickly as possible and didn't give a damn about the history and nostalia associated with the building. They should be forced to re build the Crooked House at the BCM out of their own pockets. They think they are above the law and its time the law taught them otherwise.
@@vickyhill8156luckily they are by the looks of it
Crazy to see it’s now come to light that the new owners are the company next door and there has been access disputes between Marstons brewery and them in the past. Even Andy Street Mayor of West Midlands is kicking off about it so should get some political weight behind finding the truth out.
Hopefully does get sorted , sad to see it's fell in the wrong hands I recon they wanted this for a long time
follow the money!
I can Remember this from 1986 when I worked in Birmingham, It was just 3 months back, I said to my Daughters , A place you must go to see . Then I see this on the news . Never forgot the visit . What a loss. Would be interest in more footage. Thank you for putting this on TH-cam.
Your welcome great to share some of the old pics such a shame I never got to go . I was planning to go a few months before it was brought
Sad to see we are loosing quiet alot of black country history
I know right so much is being lost in a timely manner
@@MidlandsOutdoors its intentional councils part of it all as they pass these plans and don't listen to all and many objections about everything. Like with the Dudley hippodrome a building perfectly usable to be reused for something but they want to demolish it for a car park or patch of grass for a university college campus for courses all local colleges already teach the subject in nearby areas.
Its all turning black, just like the black country!
Disgusting. They demolished it before the fire could even be investigated.
I know something really odd about it
Such a shame to lose such an historical building. Had the pleasure of drinking in there a few times.
Deffo an insurance job to make way for development. Think the guide price was £675,000 but it was never going to be used as a pub again, means only one thing…. Land.
I bet was really nice inside bud cool architecture and stuff . Yh 100% insurance job owners who are greedy and after profit and revenue rather than save a historical building . Absolutely discusting could have been saved
Glad to see another insurance job gone unnoticed without prosecution well done West Midlands Police
Goes to show how good the police are today lol
There's no justice is there? Amazing what people get away with. It's criminal!😢
@@fozziebear567 none at all . Our system is corrupt really sad tbh . Think alot of people would want justice on this
It will be investigated but I swear we all have to be there to protest any building being put on this plot unless its a rebuild of the Crooked House or watch our history get turned into cheapy made flats
Hello chief suspect here please remove any police presence from the crime scene it's only arson. So sad and utterly disgusting four pubs gone the same way by me but none in the same league. Hopefully get a council grant for the perpetrators as par vermin.
had some fantastic times at the crooked house in my younger days, i was fortunate enough to investigate there 2008.
Bet brings back some memories a shame the way it's gone tbh
@@MidlandsOutdoors oooh yes some wonderful memories, my uncle used to run the Green Man pub down the road in Swindon and used to pop in the crooked house on the way or pop in on the way back from Bridgnorth or Bewdley
I had the privilege also to investigate this beautiful location, itself at night was wonderful with the spirits, hope they have fun causing chaos for the land developers in time to come, gonna absolutely miss this place 💔 xxxxx
@@SaraMommyof3 I saw a full a full apparition while standing outside the crooked house the night i investigated there, I saw a man late 50s dressed in 1930s clothes peek from behind the wall of the left hand side window, he was only there for about 10 seconds then disappeared back behind the wall. I went back inside the pub and asked the barmaid behind the bar who the chap was that I saw and her reply was "no one is allowed upstairs as it was out of bounds to all staff and customers" as it was so dangerous
Well done lad. Great little video of a local icon. I live in Cheslyn Hay. never been to the pub even though I spent a lot of time over that area. I think its deliberate and I hope the scroats who planned it get some karma very soon. Shoul be a 100 year preservation order on all that land to stop the buggers building on it in their own lifetimes!
Thanks bud appreciate it , I've always wanted to go in this one tonnes of history behind it . Hopefully the owners get what's coming sad to see the way it is at the moment
VERY heavy fines needed but that won't happen the Council would rather broaden a land fill site and then housing all in the name of what it will bring to the area!
This is pretty sad, and Im not even from the UK. So clearly an insurance job, 7 days after new private owner brought it, It was fully on fire in the middle of the night, Roads leading up to the pub had massive piles of dirt which delayed fire fighters from getting closer and also had to walk farther to hook up hoses. It has survived other fires on the past, Look into it, And even a nearrby bomb from the wars (APPARENTLY) Yet somehow a random fire gutted the ENTIRE BUILDING even at the back. Then 2 days later the whole thing was leveled down by an excavator. Oh and by the way the same couple who brought this pub also gutted another old pub in Warwickshire village of Willey.
I know right very sad this has happened definitely gotta be a insurance job 😔
Burned down by property developers who are now being ordered to rebuild it. They should jail 'em too
They should definitely rebuild . I agree punishment is needed including fines especially without permission for demolishment bet Andy street the mayor is fuming
How can something so old that as survived wars just be snuffed out over night I never went there but It was on my bucket List
I hope the people who did this are brought to account and judging by what I've seen the local community will not let this rest until they are
visited a couple of times .last time 1998 . very special place . used to deliver petrol before retiring ,love the black country and the people .the industrial revolution was a magical time in history .
Bet it was a nice job tbh . Some nice people around the black country area . I would have loved to have seen some of the industry fire the 90's round oak steel works and a few others
Living in Australian seeing a place i used to go and now find out its gone brought tears to my eyes,,,,i wanted to bring my family and see all these old parts i once visited & now almost all gone
I can imagine tbh proper shame mate that it's gone I never got chance to go inside I wanted to go check it out . Apparently there rebuilding it but it's not gonna be the same it won't have the same values as the old building had
HI THERE i love looking at your vides, i was looking forward to viset the old pub,, i live in WALES, BUT MY gr grandfarther lived inGORNA ,BACK in the 1850tes, before moving to mid wales, He was a nail maker, evenafter moving to wales iam still hoping to visit the GORNAL aeria sometime,pity the old pub has gone, keep up thegood work, all the best from ken parkes
Thanks Ken much appreciate its great to go over some the history in this area really interesting. I've done a latest video close to there called cotwall end another great place to visit if go
My dad from Smethwick also named Ken Parkes!
It’s such a shame about the pub some people do not care I hope something is done about it even though they’ve just flattened it aswell now I doubt it will all be disposed of 256 year old and flattened in just a few days 😢
I think the police need to get into a deep investigation on this one , grade listed buildings regardless of state should not be demolished it's like hawne colliery by me parts sat on fire but can't be demolished as grade listed
Same happened to the Collonade restaurant in Southend, it was arson but nobody was investigated
Shame tbh bet that was also a well used place
Very sad mate
Very sad.
This was not only an old building but it was unique…it’s shocking there wasn’t a preservation order on it. Rebuilding doesn’t bring the Crooked House back sadly but merely a copy. I hope those responsible are punished because this was blatantly deliberate
survives for 250 years and then a property developer buys this white elephant and shortly afterwards, woops allegedly
Sadly this happens a lot,I bet any money houses will go up next year.good vid👍🏼
I've just seen on the news it's terrible seeing it demolished hopefully it gets sorted they have broke laws by demolition without permission, won't be long for the new houses
what an outrageous incident, IF proved to have been arson. I visited this pub several times in the 1960s...a quirky piece of local history.
New owners should be punished and never allowed to forget this.
I think aswell bud they should be punished for this
I loved the crooked house so much of a icon pub
Alot of people think its been done on purpose for development...must admit I'm one of them...i went there a few times over years...sad to see it destroyed plus dudley Hippodrome facing its final days.
Many memories over the years quiet sad tbf especially now it's flattened . Dudley hippodrome is a shame aswell I might have to get one look before it's gone not sure how far it's gone yet
@MidlandsOutdoors
It's been totally gutted inside going on the pictures I have seen online...I guess alot of asbestos was used as its had all the walls stripped inside of back to the brick...so it's not long for demolition now.
@@MidlandsOutdoors they've ripped all of the inside out, the building is stripped mostly to brick walls from what I've seen on a facebook post.
i wish i had the money to buy them both. But i think all the people regardless of where we're from need to petition and protest and try make a change about the hippodrome outcome. I've spoken to the someone who works for hippodrome. The council are ignoring every protest from the people as well as all organisations against it. They refuse to talk. The hippodrome could've become part of the Black Country Museum or something as a tourist attraction. That would've brought income in. Could've played old black and white movies and old fashioned snacks or something. At least its a few of our ideas.
Needs the Police to prosecute (but they won’t bother, why do they need to when there are plenty of motorists to catch instead), the Council to enforce the demolition offences, any Planning to be refused for redevelopment and the scum who did this to be forced to rebuilt it brick by brick at whatever cost.needs a petition to be started to whichever Council area this falls within. When our heritage is gone, it is not coming back.
Great to see this ❤
Thank you 😁
RIP crooked house
Great video that you have made and great news today about a possible rebuild. The only thing I think will happen is the owners will rather pay a fine than rebuild the pub, but it's down to the council not to back down on it. I live in the south but have visited this pub and just hope for everyone especially the midlands that it is fully restored.
Thank you 😁 fantastic news today about that fingers crossed it gets restored to the way it was they have alot of work to do but hopefully it returns back to it's form of glory
Really Sad day , I’d only just seen a TH-cam video on this building and then literally a few weeks later it goes up in flames!
Shame tbh lots of history vanishing
The crooked house wasn't a listed building.
It was a listing building.
Something crooked about the new owners. I don't think they are on the level at all.
@@andytyrrell5153
According to the internet, whilst an attempt was going to be made to list it, unfortunately they never did get that far.
Hence, it's not listed status.
@@andytyrrell5153nothing on historic England for it
The reason it was called the "crooked house" was because it was listing😊
Adam and Carly Taylor..
Did this
I was there today 11/8/2023
Fantastic support
Great to see people supporting I was gonna pop down but been at work last few days
@@MidlandsOutdoors Totally understand, whats overwhelmed me the most, is the coverage its received from the national and international news..
@@philh8288 I know right crazy tbh didn't think it would be this popular goes to show alot of people care about history / heritage. I know a similar old building the Dudley hippodrome that's being demolished and that's got less reputation online than this one and that also dates old
Very sad, ❤️
I remember going there back in the day a name of a drink called leg over the girl behind the bar quite funny when asking for a leg over please 🤭
Wish i lived back then all greed selfishness now unsafer very upsetting to see 😢
I hope ATE Farms Limited owners adam and carley taylor get whats coming to them
They did it to the old Euston train station decades ago, moved in at midnight before the preservation order was in force, vindictiveness, chucked most of it in the Thames, we managed to save a little, the eradication of our culture has been a 'thing' for a very long time..😮
Shocking this happens to our history goes to show those types of people don't want our heritage to be there . Today it's all about money or profits
@@MidlandsOutdoors and sadly more methinks...
Apparently they demolished it today
Sad to see this bud , could have been taken brick by brick to the bclm
They are being investigated and be held accountable.
That's good tbh hopefully they find something
I’m hopeful this isn’t the end of the crooked house. The mayor is fuming and wants it rebuilt brick for brick 🤞
Fingers crossed it does, if it's the end of the line for this then this is really sad I have a feeling it could get rebuilt brick by brick but it's odd why it got demolished so quick
@MidlandsOutdoors I would say blatantly criminal over odd, to be honest. Very sad 😢.
@@Tismesue definitely criminal hopefully they get caught out
@@MidlandsOutdoors Like others have basically said you cant hire big machinery that quick as its only been a few days since fire. Machinery that big have to be planned at least 1-2 weeks in advance. The fact the site had no security before fire and no boards on entrances and windows and picture evidence an older man was seen entering the property right before fire, blasting music, locals in that area caught him and took pictures of it. Either trespassing or owner himself. Although we all know what the scenario most likely is.
The man had a neon blue padded coat either tanned or light brown skin and white hair like a grandad cut missing hair on top.
This is sadness personified.
I cannot believe it wasn’t already a listed building. It’s iconic 🤷♂. This is a disgrace. I was planning on visiting it this October while on holiday down there. The whole thing stinks, arson and a deliberate act to flatten it and destroy evidence. Need locking up.
I know right covered there tracks , need prosecution against them in my opinion trying to hide what they done
Hopefully the oak farm will be rebuilt back to the original condition and used as a public house, Pub.
Hopefully fingers crossed
They should ban any future planning permission, and investigate this.
That's true I hope they do tbh
Was the building listed, and if not, why did the council not list it. They really need to take more interest in the history within the West Midlands, how can it ever be the same! This is painful and I am devastated. Brought by the wrong people who had no interest in its value to the community. Devastated I tell you. 😭
Was in the process of listing.
New owners will have thought ‘what doesn’t exist can’t be protected’
Not sure if was listed a shame tbh it wasn't cause it would have been saved in some way or even more trouble for the owners
@@FateBoost such a sad time. A real shame the listing was not completed. 😭
Whats happened to urbex drew channel?
I stopped urbex a long time back bud , I occasionally do it but more into my walks/history
Sold 2 weeks ago. Application from locals goes to local council to give the Crooked House 'historic/protected' status. Rocks dumped blocking the narrow Lane to the pub. Fire breaks out. Fire brigade cannot reach the building in time, have to lay 40 lengths of hose pipe. Building burns but is not destroyed. Sunday morning diggers mysteriously appear and raise the Crooked House to the ground.... Giving the developer now the chance to build.. luxury flats?
Goes to show they wanted it demolished just sad tbh goes to show they have no respect in historical buildings
@@MidlandsOutdoors Our churches are being stripped and destroyed also, lead rooves have been stripped from countless churches in the last few years causing massive damage, usually by organised Romanian gangs.
@@cbjgdicad1 that's a shame churches tbh beautiful places they shouldn't be destroyed some been around many hundreds of years
@@MidlandsOutdoors Some of them have been jailed for the desecration of our ancient heritage but it continues...
Im speeches and heartbroken
Same tbh , just really sad to mention about it lots of history behind this lost forever
@@MidlandsOutdoors it doesn't seem real it's like a bad dream
@@cjcadventures I agree 💯
@@MidlandsOutdoors it feels unreal
When I ferst heard about the crooked house burning down I thought it the PALIMANT that had burned down silly me 😊.
Just wait till the developers build something on that site then burn it down see how he likes it .
Apparently everything of any value was stripped out just days before the fire. Convenient. And the digger was hired a week and a half beforehand.
Goes to show something was planned if was all removed
@@MidlandsOutdoors Personally, I reckon those that be, will wait till as the fuss and doodah has died down, then the removed items will start to appear at auction houses, EBay etc. After all, who wouldn't want to buy something of such importance? They'll make a fortune. I also believe they will get a paltry fine and slap on the wrist too. It isn't the first time they have done such a disgusting deed.
It’s the principle at stake here if this goes viral there gonna be red faced aren’t you ATE Farms😂😂😂😂😂😂who own the surrounding landfill😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
If the local police are incompetent then the insurance company must investigate, they will not care about not getting a payout as the land and building is worth more, so they should be criminally investigated too.
Definitely needs a criminal investigation, wasn't supposed to demolish without permission need prosecution against them
It looks like the foreign owner did it. The owner is Islamic and in London as well as elsewhere they are buying historic pubs and burning them claiming 'arson'. One pub took two attempts. The night before the road was blocked with rubble. The next day it went up in flames. As soon people starting talking of restoration the diggers were there knocking it down on a Sunday morning (strange coincidence and you can't hire such equipment in that time-frame); looks very premeditated. Of course as always people will look the other way and say nothing to see here.
Absolutely terrible this is 😔 very sad to see it demolished
You have any information on this?
In this case Taylor is not, hypothetically an Islamic name even if the family were to convert but maybe Taylors thought we were all infidels to our own history & culture (non believers) They got this wrong, a meet this evening, Friday at 5.45.
@@Domdeone1 I might have a look passing by on my bike on my week off see what's going on with it then I'll go himley hall
Just what I thought. Foreigh owners with no regard for English heritage.
It's already been leveled.
At least they have now ordered the owners to now rebuild it exactly how was before the fire
Fingers crossed it does get restored to how it was they got a lot of work to do tbh
Remnant of mudflooding ? funny I live in a house of the same date of 1765 which was on the trefusis estate of which there are no photos or records of but there was a picture of our house with just fields all around it no trace of any manor estate the estate was supposedly demolished in 1850 the first recorded photograph was in 1827 the photo of our house was a decent picture( later than this date) so it can't be before 1850 because the estate and its stables of which our house was part of would still be visible ?
Is it being lost or is it being stolen?
I think its being lost bud absolute shame tbh
Pretty disgusting behavior from the new owners
I know right very disappointed with them
I see in the news two men have been arrested for suspected arson. Hopefully these sill be the first if many - and that they will get what they deserve. Fortunately the public anger has got the mayor and the MP wound up, hopefully the high profile in the media will make sure the police push this to a successful prosecution, for once.
That's fantastic news haven't seen yet glad that something has been dealt with tbh this type of arson should not be let of with in my opinion
I'm glad that this has caused the national outrage that it has. Shows that people still care; except the property developers that is.
I'm glad alot of people care about our heritage and history shame property developers don't see this
Because the demonilition people were contacted days after this pub went up in flames then being illeagally bulldozed straight after the fire seems more then suspicious to me all in 9 days of this couple buying it
A very convenient fire...too convenient.
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No doubt had it stood much longer it would have been turned into a mini mosque. Anyone objecting would have been arrested and charged with a HATE crime.
Council should not allow owners to build on land and make sure they are done in a court of law ..absolutely gutted
I agree bud 💯
They need jailing but I won't hold my breath.
We will see what happens lol chances are it's slim as police will let it slip I recon like the other crimes that go on
Good channel spoilt with flashing lights
Who else thinks this was done on purpose and thinks this is no coincidence
I personally think interesting to see how many others think same
Agreed 💯
Say it can’t be restored because trophy hunting happens & a lot of the bricks and other stuff was taken away from the site
The sounds a bit naf
Arson it’s very strange that it’s never burnt down before . Sold burns down within few days
Corruption and greed are ruining this country. They should build a pocket park on the site with information about the pub and relics of whats left and give no money to the scumbags who did this. Bring back the gibbett and put those responsible in them on the site for everyone to come and laugh at em.
Oh no. How sad.
SO SAD
Will Mayor Andy Street stay true to his word about rebuilding brick by brick?
Hoping so tbh , be interesting to see if they rebuild it
Apparently he doesn’t have the best history of doing what he says
Few whole bricks left. Made sure of that.
Whatever current owners build as a business should be boycotted especially by local population. The lane to the Crooked House was a disgraceful mess overgrown and fly tipping mounds plus the odd pothole. Won’t really matter what they build there now it won’t be a nice route to it. Only need to rebuild the original building if just to keep as a tourist attraction.
National Heritage should step in. Have it rebuilt and fully restored to its former glory. Give it a Listed Status and let tourism in the area be a focal point to this iconic building.
Start the petition...
I think it definitely should be rebuilt then have a grade listed status like mentioned , be sad to see if it's the end of it
Be a pain in the ass and never let it be forgoten
Its is very sad you would have loved in side it was so old school last time i went up in 2022 it was not open and too Modern and the farm was gone stream was fall of rubbish frytipping throw out the County rout up, this is a shame but they have been destroying buildings for years walsall has had the same but left to rot mills by wolverhampton train station was rejected by black Country a lot of history around wolves has been left to decay and walsall i never fault a function pub that built customers in and was structure sound just made you feel dizzy would have been demolished
Shame tbh I should have always gone , seen a few other videos of the inside of it looked so cool
@@MidlandsOutdoors lol you felt drunk just trying to get in pub
@@caziehackett492 that must be a experience 🤣
@@MidlandsOutdoors yes😊👍😆
😂 It was a sinking pub.
Seems to be an insurance job and obviously will be investigated. But the idea that the locals wanted the building put back together again is laughably british, imagine if the contractors were to take up the job and feel that moral support of the community, 6 years to restore the pub and then finally the reveal...the building is level 😅 oh the outrage would see them petition for the next day demolition.
So sad...
Stood for hundreds of years. Then was burnt to the ground and demolished by the foreigner it was sold to.
its loss is mysterious imo
Sadly it wasn't listed or if it was all evidence of it being listed has disappeared
That's strange tbh possible chance , shame about it tbh future generations will only remember the old photos of it . Hopefully more things get saved in the black country
Build a museum on the site and List It. Stop the investor parasites in building on it
I agree good idea 👍😄
developers spied in the area and conveniently burnt down because it was allowed to ...
If it been in London and was a national treasure like parliament or big Ben. You would only need one brick and they'd build the rest round it.😢
Shame to see this demolish tho , I agree would be saved if was somewhere like that
Update; To be rebuilt !! ✌
That would be fantastic tbh be nice to see history rise from the ground
The land must never be built on. Just to keep things true.
That's right especially on old coal mining grounds