Avengers vs X Men: Captain America vs Gambit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2023
- Avengers vs X Men: VS Vol 1 Issue 2.
▸ Captain America, communicating with Tony Stark through an earpiece, is searching for Hope Summers in the Savage Land when Gambit hits him with a surprise attack. Cap is nimbly able to dodge it, and then counters by throwing his shield at him. Gambit dodges his attack as well, but he is also able to catch his shield and charge it before throwing it back to Cap. As he dodges it, he continues his conversation with Tony. The two trade blows until Cap slams Gambit against a tree.
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Anyone who is not familiar with how Gambit was first written won't understand.
He's been watered down considerably since the early 90's.
He was fast enough to block bullets with his staff, super agile, and had a charm power.
He's beaten Wolverine in a fight, though he fought dirty, but it's against Wolverine so...
He's been depicted catching an RPG in mid flight and tossing it back at the shooter.
It was more than just a charm power, they have had him penetrate I'm going to say jean grey but maybe it was psylocke, one of the xmens telepaths and implant the image of a card which the telepath in question said was in the deepest most protected part of their mind. When fighting skrull professor X, professor X could not grab onto his mind as it was too elusive.
The block bullets with a staff one I kind of laugh at as the first time it was depicted like 2 panels later ice man hit him in the head with a snow ball.
What is weird about watering him down so much is even as he was written he'd be weaker than what they turned so many x-characters into. Oh ice man is now living ice who can wipe out the planet if he wants, diamond skin powers on white queen etc. Everyone else got ridiculous upgrades, and i say ridiculous as you just can;t write believable stories around characters that powerful. But Gambit who was never insanely OP, they nerf.
Honestly with what Rob said in this video about the alternate gambit along with this stuff, pretty crazy he's been nerfed that hard
Gambit is so slept on, always been one of my favorite characters
This is simply the writers at work. Gambit matches up WELL with cap and thats an understatement tbh.
yep. he could just throw stuff at him
You know when it’s Cap vs anybody the writers are always going to make Cap win.
@@jrob4795Precisely, it's no different than an African American defendant versus a Caucasian Plaintiff in a court of law. It's anInstant win for the white plaintiff, even if it's the wrong defendant.
Mutants have always and no matter how many piggy backers try to change the narrative have always and will always be an allegory/Stand-In for African Americans ( [Foundational Black Americans or The American Descendants of Slavery] not stand-ins for any other groups).
lol in what world? Everyone knows Cap is not going to lose to some nobody like Gambit.
On paper, story, plot, fanfare aside, gambit takes this and its not even close. The man is essentially pure fkn energy but due to the constraints of the plot, the writers need to tone him down a bit. Dude is really like an omega level mutant on the low. Cap simply just gets more shine, so he won. Politics my boy.
Gambit charging Cap's shield...I saw that coming and was still pleasantly surprised. It's a throwable attachment. Gambit's whole thing is charging up throwables 😂
I always wanted to see Bullseye with the shield.
@@CharlieComicsOfficialgoing to be a lot of decapitation going around man is a beast!
I kinda laughed at it. He was quick enough to dodge the shield, catch the shield. But not a shield tackle. 2 of those items require reaction speed than moving faster than a car at 60mph.
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@@DirtCheapFUI assume he expect it. Similar how Batman some how dodge bullet
Gambit is the Quintessential Glass Cannon. He might have extreme explosive power and the Dexterity to land every shot but if his opponent can make contact then he is done.
I remember Rogue whooped him in their fight after Age of Apocalypse in X Men #45..the book that revealed Gambit was Sinister's lackey pre Mutant Massacre.
At that time the X-MEN could have been destroyed , but Rogue discovered this and stopped him before Gambit could initiate his plot! Somehow in the future Gambit will still commit some insane act that'll make Rogue wise up and leave his Cajon behind, then I hope they re-materialize Wonder Man, Rogue finally see's her equal in being a superhero, then that premonition I saw in 1981 will finally come full circle. According to premonition, Rogue and Wonder Man rise to true prominence in the superhero plane! When I had that premonition, I couldn't go around telling people for fear of being labled insane, but now it's beginning, Rogue is about to find out how truly heroic she really is and at first be afraid because drama and angst is always part of mutant life, but then she'll face Gambit one more time, then bring him in for his crimes against the X-MEN!
Ok nice. gambits fans are right now way that easy Mona me 😅 chill vid!!
Most mutants even the strong betas/alphas don't have superhuman everything like Wolverine surprisingly. Some of them are still regular humans in certain areas. So it makes sense that a peak human like Captain America can wreck Gambit easily.
Even in real life a big dude without fighting skills can still get his ass kicked by a small dude who is an elite MMA fighter.😂😂
@@markstriker925I like that though It's realistic when it comes to power set. Most fans that don't know power levels and storylines are mad that Gambit got beat by Cap, but it makes sense in a non-bias way being loyal to both characters.
I don’t think Marvel would ever allow Gambit to beat Cap but I do think they made him less of a viable threat due to the length of these short stories. Gambit is my favorite comic character of all time though & it would’ve been nice to see him actually be shown as more than the joke he was in this fight.
Facts. He's my favorite right before Superman especially since I'm from Louisiana. Gambit is an omega level mutant who literally beat his alternate universe full power form who beat the Phoenix solo. That tells you how unbelievably powerful he is. They always do him dirty
Same for me. He is my favorite superhero and I can't stand that people, even Marvel writers, constantly underestimate him or write him to be weaker than he actually is. Gambit could definitely whoop Cap's ass. This battle is nonsense.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj facts he's an omega level mutant with fighting skills. I like Cap but he'd definitely get his ass whooped without Gambit using a fraction of his real power
Gambit is my 2nd favorite comics character and I feel you, he is one of these agile character with good reflexes, fighting skills and energy based power. He is supposed to be a serious threat to Cap. And he is French so it makes me love him even more lol
@@nuabe8285 Haha he's not French, he's Cajun.
Gambit survived gladiator more than once. Gambit is a lot more nimble than captain America and the overcoat is part of his fighting style
Gambit charging Caps shield NEEDS TO BE ON THE BIG SCREEN !
Dude, I would pay to see that 😇
Can you imagine if they included the X-Men in avengers, and had Gambit charge up Thanos's Gauntlet in order to destroy it? Or charge up Mjölnir when Captain America threw it?
@@maxgeckos That's something to think about; I mean, Caps shield, sure it will exploded. But if Gambit charges up Mjölnir, will it be destroyed🤔
@@1TheBatman is Gambit's power greater than the heart of a Dying star?
@@maxgeckos Great question, will have to do some research on this one. Or maybe @comicsexplain can hook us up 😇
Wow he caught and charged his sheild/ up and threw it back at him that takes some skill.
Sometimes I think I’m exaggerating how bad AVX was in my memory but everytime I come back to it I feel vindicated
Bruh that smoke affect at 7:15, BOSS
People seem to forget about Gambits superhuman agility
Same. I almost feel like it’s been retconned or something. I remember him and wolverine playing basketball and them mentioning his agility as part of his mutant abilities.
I could be wrong but Isn't Gambit's superhuman agility supposed to be on par with a gold medal Olympian essentially The Best of the Best. Gambit is no slouch I'll never say that but cap is literally pumped full of juice that is designed to make him the peak human between that and his Superior tactical knowledge even if he was a little slower than Gambit he would still be able to plan far enough ahead to get the upper hand in a straight fight. It might have been different if they were actually trying to kill each other but cap doesn't set out to kill and I seriously doubt Gambit would want to be the one that actually killed Captain America, that's why only parts of his suit exploded.
@@jasonbeatty831 and Gambit vs Sabertooth x2 decisively esp if they F*'ed with his Fam.
@@jasonbeatty831 Yup, very true
@@insertfunnyhandlehere I would argue both Cap and Gambit have superhuman agility. In the case of Cap the super soldier serum puts him at peak human walking around, but with adrenaline or bloodlust his agility becomes superhuman.
When we look at Gambit, his superhuman agility is mentioned numerous times in the Jim Lee run. I have the omnibus and it's mentioned by wolverine and rogue while playing basketball, also *Gladiator* of all people mentions it while they're fighting.
Gladiator: *"Your agility saved you the last time we met"*
I've been listening to you for years and have loved your dialogue, you have a beautiful voice and hope you do this more and loved your Silver Surfer Death edits.
God bless
Awesome! Thanks for making this vs stuff. I love it!
This was so good!! Wow my two favorite comic book characters. The writing the illustrations dope and your commentary makes it that much better. Thanks bro! Another banger!! 🦸🏻♂️
I think Captain would win the fight but they didn’t give Gambit the skills he normally has to make this a memorable fight. Gambit is still my favorite between the two of them.
Yeah gambit definitely is more agile between the two
It pretty much depends on the writer and for what purpose he's using the characters, in this case Gambit was used to show just how " awesome " C. A is and that Gambit can't hold a candle to him creating inconsistency all over.
@@IcemansArmy is he tho? Cap is literally described as having Olympic level agility.
The way I see it is Caps serum gives him the advantage because it boosts his thought process speed. So he'd target and execute his moves before gambit can react, even if they have similar agility - gambit fan
@@khepribanfield9819 Ok no. That bullshit about the thought process speed always bothers me thanks to Hawkeye, he's a normal ass human who is not only incredible fast but accurate with his sight to the peek of human perfection, if the serum gave Cap even more than that how the heck is anyone capable of catching and throwing back his metal Frisbee? That's the inaccurate shit I always have a problem with comics .
I think Gambit held back. He wasn't trying to kill the guy after all
Cap wasn’t trying to kill neither lol
I love this! Been waiting on a cap vs gambit
Remy's no joke!
What I think is kind of interesting about this is rob you did a video about the team up between Captain America and Wolverine during the weapons plus event. And in that one it was explaining that if Steve was still hanging around they would have used him as a super soldier manufacturing plant to combat against any of the mutants.
But if there's one thing that Captain America has in Spades is a course his brilliant tactician like mine where he can analyze any important that he's fighting against adapt to their capabilities and use it against them.
So Stevil Secret Empire Captain America?
@@aimmingo That would be the most accurate depiction of what could have happen to the mutants.
I'm so glad I purchased the AVX Omnibus this year to read this moment. This was so dope 👏🏾
wait wait wait....Gambit charged the shield....why didn't it blow up?
In the comics, Cap's shield is unique Adamantium/Vibranium alloy. Gambit's power is turning an object's potential kinetic energy into explosive energy. That's why Gambit charging a card card causes less damage than if he charged and threw a baseball. The baseball has more potential with a larger mass and inertia when thrown to create much more kinetic energy than a card. Vibranium, however, absorbs energy and redirects it back at an equal opposing force when hit. That is why Cap blocking a hit from Thor's hammer doesn't break Cap's arm or mash Cap flat underneath the shield. It deprives whatever force energy Thor's hammer gives off with an opposite force in the other direction, robbing the potential kinetic energy of its potential. So, Gambit is unable to create any explosive force because the shield negates it. 1 + (-1) = 0
Just in time for my lunch break!! Let’s goo
Digging these alot brother. I only get spawn spiderman and venom right now so I appreciate the X-Men videos the most. Helps me revisit or dive into books I can't get.
Need a round two to this fight
Thanks for another good video Rob. Cap probably should have taken SOME damage from his suit exploding, beside his pride?
Anyway... Bo = staff
Bo staff = staff staff
Gambit forgot one of the most important dbd rules:
Rogues aren't front line fighters.
If he wanted the W, he was gonna need to out think Cap. Dunno if he could have pulled it off, but being deceptive instead of head on would've helped him last more than four panels of Caps attention at least.
I thought Gambit's staff was made of adamantium. Clearly this one was not. I definitely think Gambit should have had a better showing here. I remember thinking that the first time I read thru it.
W0rD and a half 💥 ✅
Awesome play-by-play Rob. Both of these men are two among my favorite Marvel Knights, although I think Gambit could've lasted longer, Steve Roger's is comparatively stronger than LeBeau, but Remy is extremely agile...almost equal to someone like the Black Panther! The second generation Marvel Collector card listed Gambit's agility as a 4 or 5 out of 7 if I remember correctly. All power levels of Marvel characters are rated out of 7. Just in case you never collected them from '91-'93.
In the 92' Jim Lee Fleer X-Men Cards and as Seen in X-Men #4 or 5. During Gambit's basketball game against wolverine. Gambit has Super human agility. Glad you mentioned the hypnotisim. Infinity War Gambit doppleganger charged organics.
Let me also throw out there then outside of Danger Room training.
Gambit is a member of the thieves and assassins guild!
the obvious strat for Gambit, who should've practiced this idea daily, would be to charge Cap's shield, throw it and then immediately follow up with a fast attack like throwing his playing cards... never knew he had a hypnotic power
Gambit can't charge adamantium / vibranium alloy and actuall make it explode...he has limits
@@skarhead7597 those black and red eyes have to been for something. No matter how fine she is,if a woman came on to you with those eyes,it wouldn't freak you out???😆
@@skarhead7597limits because he chose that technically gambit is an omega level mutant
This was good 😊
You are the best Rob can you please do a story on the iperal guard of the shi ar and it members they are very powerful and caught my attention when they fought the X-men over the life of Jean Greay thank you
A punch from Cap is like getting smacked in the face by a 60 lb dumbbell... I'm not surprised that it would knock Gambit out.
Although, Gambit with all of his skills, near superhuman agility, and Savate should have been able to dodge or deflect such a standard punch with ease.
Cap would win in end, but it's doubtful it should have been this easy
Gambit might of got tired while cap doesn't exhaust his stamina is part of his super power
I loved the writers' fight commentary on so the AvX fights
Most innnaccurate description of BOTH of their fighting styles EVER
Hey Rob, can you do a video on Madame Webb? Since the trailer dropped, I would love to see a comic explained video on her.
Awesome... Story
These pre house of x stuff is some of my favorite in my collection
Remy didn’t want that undivided attention….
No issue with Cap winning but common on, he got his suit charged and they treated it like a love tap. That's practically like catching a grenade to the chest and he's walking it off like someone threw a basketball at him really hard. The shield catch and throw was awesome though.
Thats because Cap tanks grenades.. his skin is much durable than normal.
Cap's suit explodes and he doesnt even have a single scratch.. Quite obvious who the writer wanted to win the fight lol
@@Koooo4 that's what I'm saying. Gambit could've charged any object Steve had on him (including his helmet), he should at LEAST have some gaping wounds.
Cap dies by bullets and explosion but I still agree with cap wining.
@@SpikeTheWolf everyone dies from bullets and explosions.. poor argument.
3:36 holy shxt🔥🔥🔥🔥
Poor Gambit! lmao
People need to stop sleeping on Captain America. He's the man
Dudes a scrub that the writers jerk off. Realistically he should many be able to beat gambit nor many other meta humans. Dudes peak human with a shield lol. Not superhuman
cap has been on a tear in the last couple of months lmao
Just like how Gambits fighting style is slept in Caps strength is as well. Canon wise 616 C.A. can lift around 2+ tons (he's thrown manhole covers, 80-160 lbs, as shield subs before) while Ultimate C.A. could lift & throw about 20-40 tons.
So that strength & focused attack married with his above Olympic speed would KO Gambit that quick since the force woulda been about a base ball bat strike to the face! Gambit hasn't taken to many of those cause his face is money!
When did cap lv up I though he was at about a ton
omg rob 😂 I like how you can so tell when you aren’t satisfied with the result of a fight because its always “up for debate” or like “let me know who yall think would actually win” 😂
is this a re-upload?
I've seen you upload this before lol
Rob, talked about Gambit being able to suggest as a power ignoring the powers Captain America holds, inspiration, admiration and respect. It is hard for people to go against people they admire, respect and are inspired by. Did Gambit hold back (more than likely), in various times of crisis Captain America is the ralley caller, the one whose leadership inspires the Marvel heroes to fight harder. So pause for a bit, and think about it. Awesome telling as usual, loved it.
Is this the second time you remastered this?
Hey Rob, what do you think about possibly covering Captain America Sentinel of Liberty?
Woot. Love Gambit.
This why I love gambit❤
They definitely Vegeta'd Gambit here.
I used to love the cartoon when Wolverine and Gambit would fight in the danger room. Gambit was usually coming out on top so I feel like maybe in a different area that had more non-organic material it would have been harder for cap to beat him
No...Gambit only got the upper hand in the Danger Room ONCE & that was only when Wolverine was SUPER messed up from countless battles where even his healing factor was compromised, even Jubilee commented during that Danger Room sequence that Wolverine was NOWHERE NEAR top shape...and even the Gamvitwas only stagnating and running away from the actual fight...he also went behind Wolverine's back literally programming a Lady Deathstrike simulation Droid to attack Wolverine and distract him so he could attack FROM BEHIND...Wolverine would go on to defeat Gambit in battle head on at least twice since then.
Gambit is a full tier BELOW top guys like Wolverine, Captain America, Black Panther, or Deadpool in actual fighting ability. He's not very durable either.
I got hit by my friend with a few months of boxing training and it felt like a car ran into my bicep. A no holds barred punch from Cap straight to he chin should be lethal with that comparison in my mind.
Remember the winner is determined by the writer, it has NOTHING to do with power sets. skills or other abilities, so those arguing either side should note that.
Exactly. Pisspoor chief editors and writers
Aw yes another video where Rob slobs on gambitsknob hahaa
Marvel Comics has always diminished mutants like Gambit, Jubilee, and Beast for ages.
New Sun was one hell of a ride back when Wolverine and Gambit shared a comic together, It was his final run before it was switched to Wolverine and Deadpool.
How was the charged shield thing resolved? Did comics explain not explain or was it the comic itself leaving this vauge?
As soon as I seen that thumbnail I immediately said to myself "that's that time Cap whooped Gambits ass while talking on the phone" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
New drinking game. Take a shot every time Rob says “capable”
Haha.. i like this. Gambit vs Cap is classic Marvel
Captain America is often misunderstood as some normal guy that's just in peek physical condition, but if you look at the established limits to his strength, speed, etc he's actually sub-superhuman across the board, playing as a sort of Jack-of-all-trades. The idea that ANYONE without enhanced strength, speed, etc, like the Cap himself, can stand toe to toe with Steve Rogers is outrageous, so unless Gambit has above-human levels of ability, Rogers genuinely would mop the floor with Gambit. It wouldn't even be close.
Imagine a man with more striking power than Mike Tyson who can ALSO run faster than Husan Bolt (spelling?), AND tougher than any kungfu monk breaking boards against his body, AND mastered most of, if not all of, the important martial art styles wanted to fight YOU. Think you'd stand a chance against that guy? Only things going for Gambit is his explosions and his staff, he has no chance of winning if not for those.
Very accurate. Even the tamest estimate of Steve Rodgers I have heard is peak Olympian in every aspect. So he can run as fast as Bolt, as long as a marathon runner, while throwing punches and kicks like the best martial artist. Oh, and he has decades of fighting experience so he can throw changeups too. He also has the reaction time and aim of skeet shooters. Oof. Gambit being a kickboxer works against him as well, since Steve can easily defeat the strengths and expose the weaknesses. Closing the distance, reacting to any outside strikes, taking any knee shots, and the whole time just overpowering Gambit with his fists.
Who the hell thinks Cap is a normal guy? Lol
Narratively speaking Steve Roger is what an Evolved human would be. He is seen holding up objects that weight tens of tons over his head, capable of sprinting along side high way traffic, dives depths way below anyone else every known without special gear, etc..
He even saw himself as a Super-Human thus the reason why he registered himself as one under the "Super Human Registration Act".
Well Gambit does have enhanced speed, strength, agility, stamina and reactions. In a fist fight he should lose but not that quickly. Especially not when using his other powers.
Caps greatest ability is plot armor. He has whatever levels of power needed for the story. Cap has survived things that any non-superhuman shouldnt be able to survive. Like gambit blows up the suit he is wearing and the guy doesnt even have a scratch on him..
Gambit survived an encounter with Gladiator back in the 90s. Charged a full deck at once and machine gunned him. It was enough to get away from him. What we had in AVX was neither of these guys going all out.
Think about it like this Wolverine can't outright beat Captain America. Although he doesn't have a healing factor(peak human healing) Captain America doesn't get tired. Just about every character you can think of will get tired before him.
When you got a guy who’s a master tactician, top tier martial artist, has enhanced mental processing and reflexes and could bench a bus I would think a single punch is all he needs if he was focused
Marvel got me with these Verses books. I bought them all. I enjoyed AvX, Civil War, Fear Itself.
Patiently waiting for the Spider-Man vs collosus and magik
Cap can “Do it all day”. Gambit was never in the fight to begin with
The artists did Gambit dirt as heck with that panel of him getting punched by Cap. I can almost hear the sound Gambit would have made.
Never like gambit never will love your work thou❤
"You have my undivided attention now." It was at this moment I knew.....Gambit f*cked up.
Straight to the point and simple gabbit should have won this fight
I don’t think gambit could physically beat cap but gambit knows this and and I think gambit would have fought cap differently then this vs suggested and at least it would have been a longer more interesting and entertaining fight
Gambit has a lot of superhuman potentials
As a gambit fan, I truly adore this fight. Not every fight has to be 100 panels long; and given how short it is. It still manages to be a memorable one. I still till this day won't forget how cool it was when gambit charged up capt armor
Gotta love how losers pretend to be from the "other side" online to try and pretend they are happy with the results, get a life.
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I mean, you really couldn't expect another outcome from this fight. Sometimes, things are meant to be short and sweet lmao
@@wonka0004 Are you drunk or something? You're not making any sense...
@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon drunk on the sweet nectar of life my fellow TH-cam commentor
@@wonka0004 Did you got that from motivational videos? My god, no wonder you go around trying to get into arguments on youtube, you barely have coherent thoughts...
i remember reading this for the first time and thinking "ooooo you don fucked up now" goodtimes lol
Four panels?! I've had Gambit vs. Captain America fights on Marvel vs. Capcom last longer than that! I do remember thinking Cap was being disrespectful to Gambit by not giving him attention the first time I read this fight.
Captain America & Plot Amour always stays hand and hand... It can be annoying at times depending on the writing
EXACTLY!!!!
Is this the second time you make a cap vs gambit fight or am i crazy ?
You're not
WRECKED!!!! LOL
Yeah... These fights are definitely having the avengers win because they need them to win for the story not because that's actually how a fight would go down.
I'm still gonna say I want some DC like I came here to say but this was awesome
Gambit is my favorite X Men mutant but him losing to Cap is expected from me
I can dig it. Cap doesn't EVER go hard against humans. The Cajun convinced him to go hard... so Cap put him down for a little nappypoo. 😂
Gambit should have said sorry like Tony did to Hulk🤣🤣🤣
Beyond omega level: The divine creator
this kinda makes sense in some way, I mean if Gambit had a game plan it couldve played out differently but he should be outpaced by Cap in hand to hand combat so meh in this context it makes sense
Idk caps got years of war battling experiences legend
Gambit knows Savate. Know who else fights with Savate? Batroc the Leaper who is also a Captain America villian who probably uses Savate to a greater degree.
I feel like this is a re upload
When will the next venom/carnage comic be out?
Oh Yeah!
Yes the greasy sleazy Cajun that throws stuff well that goes Boom vs the worlds ultimate fighting machine with a shield that says NO to most everything. 😂
What are gambit's cards made out of then, if he can't charge organic stuff?
Super strength isnt a Gambit thing but Cap has Super Soldier serum strength in his blood.
Wolverine vs predator issue 4 next?. I would love to hear what you think of it
How many times have the X-Men and Avengers fought? I know they did all the way back in the mid 80s all the way into the 90s...I missed some of this.