The fact that Hobi still introduces V as his bandmate as if theyre not the biggest band in the world. And that V still bows. I love that they never assume ppl to know them. They never go into a room thinking theyre the most important people in the room. Things like this is why I love BTS, for life. Cause all 7 of them are like this. So humble.
Me too, I thought that was so cute how he's showing off his brother. They never seem to realize that they are theeee celebrities! Even though they are doing solo ventures they'll still include each other!
I didn't see V when I first saw the MV as my whole focus was on Hobi then after several watching I got the feeling that the person was V but I was still unsure but now after this behind video I was right and I was so happy ☺️☺️
Taehyung drive 5hr. Just for his hobi hyung. With hobi's Fav waffr and cakes That's why hobi post it on his IG story tete sticker with treasure ( showing tae as most precious treasure) Everyone need brother/ friend like taehyung in their life.
Everyone needed friend like Kim Taehyung in there life A friend who can visit your shows set to support you during his own day of Birthday Who can spend 24hr. On flight just for attend your movies premiere to support you ( when he can enjoy his day/night in LA with celebrities) A friend who can drive 5hr. Just to came with your fav snacks and support you and makes you happy.
I love how happy Hobi was to see Tae stop by. Hobi was so gracious & it was good to see him laughing & smiling in between takes. Other armies on YT had pointed out & speculated it was V in the MV, but I could never be sure. Now I am!!👍🏼👏🏼🙌🏼💜
this new chapter connects to chapter one so well! at first in "daydream" v made a cameo and now in "more" v once again made a cameo! v is always there to support his hyung
I love this as we can see that it’s still the Hobi we know and love. Also I love that he refers to Tae as his “band mate”. They maybe exploring solo ventures but they will always be Bangtan Boys.
i didn't see tae when I saw MV ...but then I noticed him ...i love how history is repeating itself ....i love their brotherhood ....and I was waiting for u guys ...it's like i want daily dose from u familia ...lmao ...and when r u going to react on 64th grammy's behind the scenes ...i am waiting for it ????????????????????
and familia....in the soop wooga squad teaser will be released on 8th July apparently....soooo excited...hope u would be able to react to that as well...I'm so excited to see tae being the wooga squad's baby for the entirety of the show💜💜💜💜
Thought familia wld be keen to know. The subs at @10:36 did not translate accurately. When Jhope said V’s the best, he actually said, ‘As expected (역시 yeok si), my little brother (내동생 ne dong saeng) ‘. How cute is that!
Tae is asupportive friend,him flying earlier than his members to attend Dong’s movie premier,him sending coffee trucks for his friends and attending their movie premiers😫🥺everyone needs a friend like Tae fortunately i ve my friend Babra😍,Hobi all the best for this album,let me go and watch
I love that Tae Bear is so supported of his bandmates Bros especially Hobi, JK..🐼🤗😍🥰💜 Hobi is so happy to see him there since the group decide to take a long break to do their own thing or other activities as individuals and V just finished doing his Celin fashion week fun time in Paris who's now decide to go visit his family bandnate big bro J-Hope on his MV More video shoot to pay his support for Hobi, which is so thoughtful and sweet by our Winter Bear Tae, who took his time off his busy schedule to see his bro J-Hope, and Tae (V) is also doing a variety show couple episodes of In The Soop with his other group Hyungs call Wooga Squard Bros on July 15, it will be on Disney app I think soon so yea, but some folks still believe it will be on Netflix to who knows but I will be watching, the show will air in Korea first than in America on Disney and maybe on Netflix to..🥰💜✌
I always enjoy watching the behind the scenes process, really love this song and MV! It was so precious of Tae to travel I heard 5 hours to visit Hobi and give his support. Their interactions are always so adorable and I loved how big Hobi was smiling when he saw Tae. And yes Tae the earring looks very good. 💜💜
yes I see V hahah just seeing his slides ( slippers ) and hair I know it's him hahaha and some Army's on Tiktok screen shot it. 💜💜💜 And now it's all proven. Hahah very supportive brother indeed
I didn’t see V when I first watched the MV. 😯 This MV is amazing. I love it so much. 😍 They’re so cute. They’re each other's support system. I love them so much. 🥰🥹 You’re awesome familia. Purple you. 💜💜🇹🇷
When this (the song) first came out, I didn't exactly know how I felt about it. But coming back and listening to it, it's grown on me. And I've come to really take in the message. He wants to continue in his craft in order to keep living. At the beginning, just like most of us think, we feel that the benefits we get from our work (in Hope's case it's money and fame) are what makes everything worthwhile. But after you get it, the ecstasy lasts for a moment, and inside, you're back to square one. And it's much worse this time because right now, you don't know what will satisfy that insatiable hunger for something deep within you. And at this juncture, many resort to doing things that are clearly detrimental to their health and life. But Hope wants to bring back everything to the music and the people he was privileged to meet around him (BTS, Army, and other friends we may not know about). I think every one of us is able to relate to this in more ways than one. We're all after something that we feel will make life complete and worthwhile. But after it's been handed to us, we feel even emptier than before because our hope has also been taken away. The hope we had at the beginning that made us feel that after getting "so and so" or getting to "so and so" point, everything would fall into place. But reality is that we live in a broken world where to get something, we have to give up another. You can't have everything. But you CAN have the most important things if you're willing to let the trivial things go when there's a choice to be made. Those important things are people. But I pray that someway, somehow, the One who created would satisfy us. I believe that the Maker of it all is the only one that can keep us centered. I'm just relating back to my personal experience. Anywho, I really like the song. I liked the beats, but I've come to appreciate the lyricism 💜
This really amazing song jhope style so amazing everything perfect really amazing and also V he there so cute BTS the best group on the world 7 boys amazing 🙏💪💪💜💜
it's so cute how supportive tae has always been of hobi ❤️🩹 idk why but i love seeing when only a few members at a time interact if that makes sense? like it makes it feel much more intimate and makes their friendship more real in my eyes like i know they're allllll bestfriends and support each other whether it's bts solo work or SOLO solo work 😭 also familia, will you guys be posting a reaction to the grammys 2022 episode?
Tae is really supportive to his members and really lovely!!💗💗💗 I have a recommendation video to you guys to react i really want to see your reaction i hope you notice these comment, i want you guys to react to BTS V W/WOOGA SQUAD, there is ACTOR - PARK SEOJOON, PARK HYUNG SIK, CHOI WOO SHIK and RAPPER - PEAKBOY, their friendship is also full of lovely gus hehehe, where bts V is the maknae in the squad, WOOGA SQUAD will be on IN THE SOOP will be premiers on july 22 this year, I HOPE YOU GUYS NOTICE THIS!!🤗💜
It is fun to see behind the scene of BTS MV JHope, he always wants to make sure it will be perfect for armies/fans to watch & own 'MORE'. Yes, I see our TaeTae!
it's funny how hobi knows us so well because everyone figured out it was taehyung simply because his toes were out 😭 (the hair was a big giveaway too but yeah)
You watching the videos with eyes wide open always makes me say"hehe. I will give you more candies kids...keep it up.." and i really wonder why am i younger than you guys...😅😅
Did not see V the first, second, third and many more times after that until I saw the shooting sketch. Every time I see that Jack in the Box, I'm waiting for the jump scare now.
brooo everytime...i just finished watching"take care of my refrigerator"on patreon haha...familia...i really wish u would also react to Grammy behind...the way each of them are praising others and how they worked through such a hard process...it's so cool and i know for sure ull love it💜💜💜💜💜
It was such a fun episode!! We are so excited for the next one 😂 and we want to watch that!!!! Thank you for the recommendation :) PURPLE YOU FAMILIA 💜
Your creativity always impresses me You want another BTS reference? Go back to scene where Hobi threw the papers in the air, check the side lights. Its BTS logo. I didn’t see V the first time i watched the video but i know i have a great feeling one member is there somewhere. BTS always support each other so i am confident i am just not sure if Taehyung again or JK. Then minutes later i saw Army tweets pointing V in the mv and i scream i am right! There’s Bangtan there among employees i just dont have a keen eye but my gut was right
On my first watch I was too shocked and focused on JHope I didn't pay attention to anybody/anything else 😂💔 even after watching it hundred times I didn't catch V lol because I was vibing to the song everytime without analyzing the video.. I only knew from the behind the scenes
Jack will try to fool you that he is all dark and grungy. But we all know Hobi is always such a nice person and positive. Him being so serious makes me want him moreee.
OMG!! Familia you scared me with that intro and outro.... and yes Hobi worked with another production team it is call Bored studio and I didn't see Tae when I first watched the MV...I think I was too shock
No.. i didnt notice it.. i didnt know Tae was in tht mv..... but thanks Taetae for making a cameo.. Our Hobi is so different right.. my sunshine turned to bad guy.. a very good looking bad guy... i love that man so much... love taehyung too much too.. and i love you guys too 💜💜💜
When I first watched the mv for more I thought I saw v but I wasn’t sure also bc he was the only one wearing slippers and his fluffy hair but then I saw screenshots of v on twitter of where he was in the mv
1st watch is always a blur for me lol. 2nd time, I was focused on the lyrics, 3rd go as I was actively looking for hints/clues for other song names on the album or member cameos, and I saw someone wearing slippers in the office scene 🤣 had to be Tae 💜. Twitter later confirmed it for me, and now the behind the scenes did as well!
thank you for reacting! His new look and music is making sooo excited for this album and what’s to come! Ps - are you guys going to react to the Grammies episode??
QOTD: No, I didn't see Tae the first time I watched the MV because I was in shock listening to Hoseok lmao, BUT in that scene, I thought that a member could be there since I was thinking of Daydream when that happened
It's so funny in the mv jhope is all serious and grungy and stuff but behind the scenes he literally cant stop smiling 😭
I know... it's Hobi... 🤷
More MV: 🖤😈👿
More MV Sketch: 🖤🥰😁
*HAHAHAHAHA*
The fact that Hobi still introduces V as his bandmate as if theyre not the biggest band in the world. And that V still bows. I love that they never assume ppl to know them. They never go into a room thinking theyre the most important people in the room. Things like this is why I love BTS, for life. Cause all 7 of them are like this. So humble.
Me too, I thought that was so cute how he's showing off his brother. They never seem to realize that they are theeee celebrities! Even though they are doing solo ventures they'll still include each other!
Yeah I love genuine humble artists.
Same thoughts..thats why they are the biggest band..their talents & humble self sets them apart from others...
Jhope being so happy and laughing is everything. Tae visiting and showing his support to hobi was so wholesome. Yes I saw Tae in the mv
Same. J-hope was absolutely correct when he said army would immediately notice V.💜
Taehyung is so sweet from Daydream MV to More MV💜
it was known that Tae drove 5 hours to come see hobi he's such a sweetheart :(
I didn't see V when I first saw the MV as my whole focus was on Hobi then after several watching I got the feeling that the person was V but I was still unsure but now after this behind video I was right and I was so happy ☺️☺️
J-hope introducing V to the band is so sweet and respectful. I’m sure the band knows who he is but he just have to do it. 🥰
Taehyung drive 5hr. Just for his hobi hyung. With hobi's Fav waffr and cakes
That's why hobi post it on his IG story tete sticker with treasure ( showing tae as most precious treasure)
Everyone need brother/ friend like taehyung in their life.
Everyone needed friend like Kim Taehyung in there life
A friend who can visit your shows set to support you during his own day of Birthday
Who can spend 24hr. On flight just for attend your movies premiere to support you ( when he can enjoy his day/night in LA with celebrities)
A friend who can drive 5hr. Just to came with your fav snacks and support you and makes you happy.
Like j-hope said “Taehyung is the best.”💜💜
the fact that tae drove for about 5 hours to get there😭 he's the loveliest bestie ever
I love how happy Hobi was to see Tae stop by. Hobi was so gracious & it was good to see him laughing & smiling in between takes. Other armies on YT had pointed out & speculated it was V in the MV, but I could never be sure. Now I am!!👍🏼👏🏼🙌🏼💜
I saw V immediately in the office scene... he has such fluffy hair. It was my immediate thought... "V is in the MV".
this new chapter connects to chapter one so well! at first in "daydream" v made a cameo and now in "more" v once again made a cameo! v is always there to support his hyung
YES! my sister and I spotted V quickly as he was unique in the office wearing his slippers HAHA!
Thank you V for supporting hobi, you are such a sweet boy.love you.
Hobi introducing V shows how humble they are,like everyone knows them but 🥺😍❤️💜
It feels like a new beginning with Hobi like we're seeing him for the first time yet so connected with him!
I love this as we can see that it’s still the Hobi we know and love. Also I love that he refers to Tae as his “band mate”. They maybe exploring solo ventures but they will always be Bangtan Boys.
i didn't see tae when I saw MV ...but then I noticed him ...i love how history is repeating itself ....i love their brotherhood ....and I was waiting for u guys ...it's like i want daily dose from u familia ...lmao ...and when r u going to react on 64th grammy's behind the scenes ...i am waiting for it ????????????????????
and familia....in the soop wooga squad teaser will be released on 8th July apparently....soooo excited...hope u would be able to react to that as well...I'm so excited to see tae being the wooga squad's baby for the entirety of the show💜💜💜💜
Thought familia wld be keen to know. The subs at @10:36 did not translate accurately. When Jhope said V’s the best, he actually said, ‘As expected (역시 yeok si), my little brother (내동생 ne dong saeng) ‘. How cute is that!
Tae is asupportive friend,him flying earlier than his members to attend Dong’s movie premier,him sending coffee trucks for his friends and attending their movie premiers😫🥺everyone needs a friend like Tae fortunately i ve my friend Babra😍,Hobi all the best for this album,let me go and watch
I love that Tae Bear is so supported of his bandmates Bros especially Hobi, JK..🐼🤗😍🥰💜
Hobi is so happy to see him there since
the group decide to take a long break to
do their own thing or other activities as
individuals and V just finished doing his
Celin fashion week fun time in Paris who's now decide to go visit his family
bandnate big bro J-Hope on his MV More video shoot to pay his support for
Hobi, which is so thoughtful and sweet by our Winter Bear Tae, who took his time off his busy schedule to see his bro
J-Hope, and Tae (V) is also doing a variety show couple episodes of In The Soop with his other group Hyungs call
Wooga Squard Bros on July 15, it will be
on Disney app I think soon so yea, but
some folks still believe it will be on
Netflix to who knows but I will be watching, the show will air in Korea
first than in America on Disney and
maybe on Netflix to..🥰💜✌
I find it sweet how V traveled 5 hours just to be there for Hobi
I always enjoy watching the behind the scenes process, really love this song and MV! It was so precious of Tae to travel I heard 5 hours to visit Hobi and give his support. Their interactions are always so adorable and I loved how big Hobi was smiling when he saw Tae. And yes Tae the earring looks very good. 💜💜
I JUST REWATCHED THE MV AND TAE IS ACTUALLY THERE
No, I didn't notice V the first time. Love this Hobi music!
yes I see V hahah just seeing his slides ( slippers ) and hair I know it's him hahaha and some Army's on Tiktok screen shot it. 💜💜💜 And now it's all proven. Hahah very supportive brother indeed
Love you guys, no didn’t see V before seeing behind scenes! 💜
We didn’t either!!! We love you too 💜
I didn’t see V when I first watched the MV. 😯 This MV is amazing. I love it so much. 😍
They’re so cute. They’re each other's support system. I love them so much. 🥰🥹
You’re awesome familia. Purple you. 💜💜🇹🇷
When this (the song) first came out, I didn't exactly know how I felt about it.
But coming back and listening to it, it's grown on me. And I've come to really take in the message.
He wants to continue in his craft in order to keep living. At the beginning, just like most of us think, we feel that the benefits we get from our work (in Hope's case it's money and fame) are what makes everything worthwhile. But after you get it, the ecstasy lasts for a moment, and inside, you're back to square one. And it's much worse this time because right now, you don't know what will satisfy that insatiable hunger for something deep within you. And at this juncture, many resort to doing things that are clearly detrimental to their health and life.
But Hope wants to bring back everything to the music and the people he was privileged to meet around him (BTS, Army, and other friends we may not know about).
I think every one of us is able to relate to this in more ways than one. We're all after something that we feel will make life complete and worthwhile. But after it's been handed to us, we feel even emptier than before because our hope has also been taken away. The hope we had at the beginning that made us feel that after getting "so and so" or getting to "so and so" point, everything would fall into place.
But reality is that we live in a broken world where to get something, we have to give up another. You can't have everything. But you CAN have the most important things if you're willing to let the trivial things go when there's a choice to be made. Those important things are people.
But I pray that someway, somehow, the One who created would satisfy us.
I believe that the Maker of it all is the only one that can keep us centered. I'm just relating back to my personal experience.
Anywho, I really like the song. I liked the beats, but I've come to appreciate the lyricism 💜
the intro legit kinda scared me lol love you guys 💜
This really amazing song jhope style so amazing everything perfect really amazing and also V he there so cute BTS the best group on the world 7 boys amazing 🙏💪💪💜💜
it's so cute how supportive tae has always been of hobi ❤️🩹 idk why but i love seeing when only a few members at a time interact if that makes sense? like it makes it feel much more intimate and makes their friendship more real in my eyes like i know they're allllll bestfriends and support each other whether it's bts solo work or SOLO solo work 😭 also familia, will you guys be posting a reaction to the grammys 2022 episode?
Waiting for your Grammy behind the scenes reaction 💜
Tae is really supportive to his members and really lovely!!💗💗💗
I have a recommendation video to you guys to react i really want to see your reaction i hope you notice these comment, i want you guys to react to BTS V W/WOOGA SQUAD, there is ACTOR - PARK SEOJOON, PARK HYUNG SIK, CHOI WOO SHIK and RAPPER - PEAKBOY, their friendship is also full of lovely gus hehehe, where bts V is the maknae in the squad, WOOGA SQUAD will be on IN THE SOOP will be premiers on july 22 this year, I HOPE YOU GUYS NOTICE THIS!!🤗💜
V really like j-hope💜💜
It is fun to see behind the scene of BTS MV JHope, he always wants to make sure it
will be perfect for armies/fans to watch & own 'MORE'. Yes, I see our TaeTae!
He's so cool
I had to go rewatch the MV after this to look for Tae ~~ I didn't see him the first time! 💜
When I first watched this video I thought I saw V in the background but wasn’t sure.
For such an icon, Hobi is so humble. It literally oozes from him.
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I didnt see Tae at first but many said it was him and I saw him😁... Happy to see you guys😊💜💜
it's funny how hobi knows us so well because everyone figured out it was taehyung simply because his toes were out 😭 (the hair was a big giveaway too but yeah)
Guys maybe next reaction to BTS playing "do you know me" game. They so funny 😄💜
Finally I was waiting for this, hoping that there's also a reaction to BTS at 64th Grammy Awards Bangtan Bomb episode 💜💜💜
Waiting for the scene reaction of "@ 64 Grammy Award EPISODE" and "Left and Right Recording Sketch (JK)"..🫶💕
You watching the videos with eyes wide open always makes me say"hehe. I will give you more candies kids...keep it up.." and i really wonder why am i younger than you guys...😅😅
Did not see V the first, second, third and many more times after that until I saw the shooting sketch. Every time I see that Jack in the Box, I'm waiting for the jump scare now.
I'm so proud of our little sunshine!!!🌞💜
brooo everytime...i just finished watching"take care of my refrigerator"on patreon haha...familia...i really wish u would also react to Grammy behind...the way each of them are praising others and how they worked through such a hard process...it's so cool and i know for sure ull love it💜💜💜💜💜
It was such a fun episode!! We are so excited for the next one 😂 and we want to watch that!!!! Thank you for the recommendation :) PURPLE YOU FAMILIA 💜
borahae familia💜💜
@@MexineseFamily yes pleaseeee GRAMMY BEHIND!!!!
Finally you guys are back i missed you guys so much 😅😍❤️
We missed you too Familia 🫰💜
Yaay. I'm early 💜🤘💜
J-hooooooope!!!!!
13:42 *the lights at the back are the logo of Bangtan* 🥺💜
9:20 There is actually the BTS Logo on the walls in the slow-mo office scene towards the end of the MV 😊
I miss you guys so much you make my days better 😭 I wish you come back as before or even better💜😍😭
our beloved jack and vante🤎🤎
thanks for the reaction! i honestly really enjoy watching it with you guys!💜
The arm like camera is called a Bolt Camera..same kind used in Suga Shadow MV and in DNA MV and Kendrick Lamar Humble video ☺
Your creativity always impresses me
You want another BTS reference? Go back to scene where Hobi threw the papers in the air, check the side lights. Its BTS logo.
I didn’t see V the first time i watched the video but i know i have a great feeling one member is there somewhere. BTS always support each other so i am confident i am just not sure if Taehyung again or JK. Then minutes later i saw Army tweets pointing V in the mv and i scream i am right! There’s Bangtan there among employees i just dont have a keen eye but my gut was right
I love you guys 💜💜
We love you more 💜
Your edits are delightful.
Yooo, you have to stop with these Jack in the Box scares - I can't handle these. LMAO. (Please, DON'T stop.) :D
Familia,i think you missed 2 bangtan episodes they 64th grammy,and jungkooks left and right.looking forward to watch it again with you familia😍
The group and gc i were in, they noticed Tae immediately. Amazing eyeballs! 🤣 They noticed Tae because of his shoes. 🤣
aaaa 13 views, one of the bangtan lucky num im so earlyy
On my first watch I was too shocked and focused on JHope I didn't pay attention to anybody/anything else 😂💔 even after watching it hundred times I didn't catch V lol because I was vibing to the song everytime without analyzing the video.. I only knew from the behind the scenes
love it,,, miss you mexinese fam
Miss you too Familia :)
I didn't notice v in the mv I only focus on hobi I love to see v visit hobi that's soo sweet
Jack will try to fool you that he is all dark and grungy. But we all know Hobi is always such a nice person and positive. Him being so serious makes me want him moreee.
Anneyeonghaseyo familia
How about the grammy awards behind the scenes familia?🤗🥺
Nobody;
and also
EVERYBODY: Going back to rewatch to see Tae
Tbh it took me a while to actually see tae lmao
OMG!!! You guys replied with the video! Really you guys reactions are so precious for me! Thank you ARMY & both of you💞
I PURPLE YOU ( BORAHAE) 💜
OMG!! Familia you scared me with that intro and outro.... and yes Hobi worked with another production team it is call Bored studio and I didn't see Tae when I first watched the MV...I think I was too shock
I really love you guys 💜💜💜
We love you more 💜💜💜
@@MexineseFamily 💜💜
When only watching bts videos makes you this excited...I wonder what will you do when you actually meet them?😆
They already went to concert for 2times...at first she almost cried
@@adisha146 no I meant in person..like bts, them and noone
@@himubi7416 oh💜
light reflection in mv as bantan logo
No.. i didnt notice it.. i didnt know Tae was in tht mv..... but thanks Taetae for making a cameo.. Our Hobi is so different right.. my sunshine turned to bad guy.. a very good looking bad guy... i love that man so much... love taehyung too much too.. and i love you guys too 💜💜💜
When I first watched the mv for more I thought I saw v but I wasn’t sure also bc he was the only one wearing slippers and his fluffy hair but then I saw screenshots of v on twitter of where he was in the mv
Them: did you saw any Bangtan references in the m/v?
Army: dude we found an entire taehyung!!!
i knew it was v right away 😂💜
I also didn't noticed Tae at all I think I'm too much focused on HOBI😂😂
I really Missed you guys✨💜
1st watch is always a blur for me lol. 2nd time, I was focused on the lyrics, 3rd go as I was actively looking for hints/clues for other song names on the album or member cameos, and I saw someone wearing slippers in the office scene 🤣 had to be Tae 💜. Twitter later confirmed it for me, and now the behind the scenes did as well!
Uthman just have to say it I love ur hair 💜
Thank you familia :)
Hobi is loving every moment of it💜💜💜💜
Jungkook behind #leftandright next please 🥺💜
Did you saw the news there's gonna be a global concert in october😭💞
I didn't watch it just so I can be able to watch it with you familia because I missed you sooooo much
That is too sweet Familia, we purple you and hope we were good company to you :) & We missed you too Familia!!
You guys should check out the Grammy behind the scene episode 💜💜
Yes I did see V
i hope you react to jungkook recording left and right too… please
thank you for reacting! His new look and music is making sooo excited for this album and what’s to come! Ps - are you guys going to react to the Grammies episode??
Hey familia, i always look forward to your videos 💜💜
And Sprite😂💜
Agust D ft. Jinkook
Hope ft. Tae
Who's next? Hmmmm.....is it RM ft. JM👀
🤭
Idk about Jack being Hobi's alter ego but Agust D isnt Yoongi's Alter ego, Yoongi has mentioned this a couple of times before.
Hey familya
K ARMY's have said the English translation for i'm not enough is wrong, it should say it is not enough.
QOTD: No, I didn't see Tae the first time I watched the MV because I was in shock listening to Hoseok lmao, BUT in that scene, I thought that a member could be there since I was thinking of Daydream when that happened