Walking the River Rom & Beam River - London Borough of Havering (4K)

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  • Walking the River Rom & Beam River - London Borough of Havering (4K)
    A walk along the River Rom starting at Hainault Forest and ending near the Thames at Dagenham.
    This London river walk starts on the edge of Hainault Forest and follows a section of the London Loop to our first sighting of the Rom near Carter Lane. We then pass through the streets that lead to Collier Row and down North Street to Romford Town Centre and Romford Market. Leaving the town centre we follow the Rom through a series of parks where it becomes the boundary between the London Boroughs of Havering and Barking & Dagenham. In its lower reaches the Rom becomes the Beam River before it runs through the site of the Ford motor works at Dagenham.
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  • @garychallis3459
    @garychallis3459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I lived in Dagenham east in the 1950s, the river Beam ran at the back of our house in Manor Road. I now live in Melbourne Australia and enjoyed watching this walk as it brought back happy memories of playing around the river as a child.

  • @simon1066
    @simon1066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great walk John, thank you. I remember visiting the Ford factory at Dagenham as a young 17 year old apprentice. Our company over in West London supplied parts for the engines. It was a life changing experience. The sheer scale of the place, the intensity of activity, the smells , the dirt, the humour, the patience and kindness of the workers are imprinted on my brain forever.

  • @petersmith5821
    @petersmith5821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lived in Collier Row from 1969 -1974 in a house that backed onto the Rom, spent many a happy day mucking around on it, There were no trees back then and it was all open ground. We used to build big bonfires there for Guy Fawkes. Having lived in NZ since 74, it is great to see this video. Thank you.

  • @jonrome2839
    @jonrome2839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad (b.1915)once told me that he & his older brother used to go down the Rom in a tin bath, I suspect it was a bit deeper back then.

  • @johnhall6993
    @johnhall6993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your shot of the church in Romford Market reminded me of a warm Saturday evening in the '70s, when some friends and I were ringing the bells, purely for pleasure, no weddings or anything. The window was open as it was quite stuffy in the ringing room. During the course of the ringing, the guy whose bellrope was in front of the window suddenly yelped and nearly fell forward. The rest of us thought that he was ill or had hurt a muscle, but he quickly said that he was OK. When we finished the piece (we call it a 'peal'), the guy who had had the problem reached into a corner and picked up a large radish. Apparently, it had been lobbed from outside, probably by one of the market workers who were clearing up at the time, had neatly gone through the open window and caught him a good 'un right in the back of the neck.
    Another great walk: thank you!

  • @anthonyhatfull5484
    @anthonyhatfull5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How times change!
    In the early 70`s we lived at the Whalebone Lane end of Crow Lane,and used to walk into Romford.
    Old Church Hospital was still open,as was the brewery.
    Just past the junction with Rush Green Rd. was an abattoir. I think it was Palmers Meats roughly where Homebase is now. At the end of the day they did the cleaning,and the mixture of blood and high pressure steam created a foul sickly smell around the whole area,as anyone living around there at that time will confirm.
    There was a big open field that ran almost the length of Crow Lane where horses were grazed. I`m told it`s now a golf course although Ive not been around there for 40 years.
    In Romford Market we used The Lamb pub,and did our shopping in Mac Fisheries,or Caters on the ground floor of Debenhams (RIP).

    • @14caz68
      @14caz68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember Romford Mac Fisheries .. turned into Bejam latterly Iceland’s .
      The smell of the Brewery !!
      Ahhh …I miss the 70s 😐

    • @lindalong5052
      @lindalong5052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember the stench of the brewery on certain days.

    • @CaboloNero
      @CaboloNero 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lindalong5052yep. Used to make be gag when I had to go there

  • @victoriacoulson9731
    @victoriacoulson9731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I grew up in Romford in the 80s and 90s - I lived in a house opposite the entrance you took in to King George's playing fields, great memories of the park as you walked that part and in to Romford town centre - thank you!

  • @Mistydazzle
    @Mistydazzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for taking us on another delightful & educational walk! In case no one else has said, the Stsgecoach Bus Building was built in 1953.

  • @danm7301
    @danm7301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video, I love the chase so much to see. Including 6 of Britain's rarest native tree, the black poplar.

  • @philburdett
    @philburdett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Good stuff, sir! Couple of personal resonances in this one...I used to busk in that subway leading to Romford Market & (in my dark unmentionable past) was in a pre-Depeche Mode band with Martin Gore before we chose different musical paths...nice to see some familiar territory & I'm a big fan of your river walks & also, in equal measure, the industrial edgelands - so all in all most pleasing!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      glad you enjoyed that Phil - your past sounds like something that should certainly be mentioned

    • @philburdett
      @philburdett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JohnRogersWalks Only if carefully edited...

    • @jonathancole833
      @jonathancole833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe that Dave Gahan attended a Young Offenders programme in Romford in the late 70s.

  • @4thEyeVision
    @4thEyeVision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hainault Forest, Romford, Rush Green, what more could a man ask for thanks John :)

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks 4thEye

    • @jake24009
      @jake24009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnRogersWalks i feel like i have seen you somewhere before

  • @robertmcneil1764
    @robertmcneil1764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, John. Although I live in Colchester I still actually work at Ford's Dagenham and can tell you that the part of the Beam that runs through Ford's land is well maintained by them. There are pathways by the sides for the use of worker's and we can go blackberry picking at certain points and there are benches to have lunch on if we wish. Great video as always. All the best, Rob McNeil

  • @Agathanagatha
    @Agathanagatha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This brings back so many memories for me.i remember getting on an 86 bus to Romford on a Saturday with my mum she went to the fish stall to get my dad his Saturday fish supper,then we’d go to the fruit and veg stalls and go to woolies to get broken biscuits and I would help myself to the pick and mix when no one was looking,my mum died when I was 7 but I remember those Saturday shopping trips
    I remember when I was about 11 an old lady gave me a job on her flower stall outside Romford train station I would have to run through what we call the battices (scariest place on earth) you can see and smell the river rom there.then come out to st Andrews road where the brewery is and all you could smell was the hop’s brewing and I hated that smell but now when I’m in Romford the thing I notice the most is there’s no smell of hops and I miss it.Romford was a haven for us kids that used to bunk off of school because there was always somewhere to hangout like the shops..Thank you for bringing these memories back to me 🙏

  • @arthunter92
    @arthunter92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This walk is the history of my life…

  • @elmparktube9577
    @elmparktube9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great walk. The river Rom around Grenfell park and up to Dagenham was my 'playground' as a child. I also fell in it quite a lot trying to cycle / walk over what we used to call the 'pipe' which has now been covered over and had many a welly boot full of water while exploring. I can see my house @ 28.52. My father was in the Dad's army in WW2 and the pillbox box @ 36.00 was probably one of those that he used to patrol. He also worked at the Ford factory for over 35 years.

    • @jackieparsey5108
      @jackieparsey5108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was too scared to walk over the pipe!

  • @FrenchRiviera4K
    @FrenchRiviera4K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always a pleasure to walk with you 💛🧡

  • @howdymartin6258
    @howdymartin6258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Sunday is now complete !

  • @w00df0rd
    @w00df0rd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    15:50:
    - Depeche Mode
    - Prodigy
    - Small Faces and Steve Marriott
    - Squarepusher
    - Cassette Boy
    - Andy C
    - Blur
    - Sarah Cracknell
    - Dr Feelgood
    - Crass
    - John Farnham
    - Procol Harum
    - ROMFORD's Five Star
    + Inspiration for Moz's 'Dagenham Dave'; home to his favourite venue, the Ilford Island, and we nearly got Mark Hollis but Tottenham was Middlesex.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's quite a list Alex

    • @interpoluk
      @interpoluk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Talk Talk, Southend. Iron Maiden. Kursaal Flyers, Eddie & the Hot Rods, Tonight. Headswim. Missing Andy. McCarthy/Stereolab, Billy Bragg.

    • @analogdistortion
      @analogdistortion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Squarepusher but not Aphex Twin? WTH MAN?!

    • @w00df0rd
      @w00df0rd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@analogdistortion Aphex Twin is from Cornwall (list is of artists from Essex👍)

    • @alexthomson7465
      @alexthomson7465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DR Feelgood!!

  • @TonyCarnell
    @TonyCarnell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    18:47 I hope I'm not the only person wondering which subways comprise your top 10 list John 😂 Another cracking video, and your mention of Depeche Mode and Yazoo made me smile - been a big fan of the former since the mid 80s 🎼 🎹

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I shall have to make the long planned compilation video Tony

  • @72thewho
    @72thewho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi John , North Street Romford Bus Garage was built in 1953 , it’s great early postwar architecture

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that note Craig

    • @jonathancole833
      @jonathancole833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to catch the bus home from school from that garage in the early 80s - the trees gave it an almost exotic feel!

  • @prodiver7
    @prodiver7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A great pleasure, as ever. You mentioned Havering atte Bower, and pronounced it Havering at Bower as people do today. When I was young in the 50s and real broad Essex accents were still heard in the area, the loocles (locals) pronounced it Hayvring aat ter Beower (Havering at the Bower), which accounts for the current spelling. Some of us still say Hayvring atter Bower.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for that note - I do like the sound of that

    • @interpoluk
      @interpoluk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have always said ' atter- bower' Honestly didnt know or heard anyone say it differently before.

    • @victoriacoulson9731
      @victoriacoulson9731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've always pronounced it Havering ATTY Bower

    • @stevejessup9116
      @stevejessup9116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have lived close to Havering -atte-Bower for nearly 50 years and have always known 'atte' pronounced to rhyme with 'batty' or 'tatty'

  • @TheJonboy789
    @TheJonboy789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for a great walk John loads of memories, I was a Ford apprentice in the late 70's working in the Engine plant, brought back a memory of security watching a remote controled speed boat going up the Beam River when one of them thought "hang on we see this go up the Beam but never come back" so one day they followed it to the bridge where you climbed the gate as it ran into the weeds and stopped only for a guy from the engine plant to stop his car on the A13 (now the A1360) get out pick up the boat and take a cam shaft out, he had been doing it for weeks apparantly. Thames Ave was alway part of the Ford plant.

  • @100joshua
    @100joshua 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really great film. I’ve walked all that as well. So good to see it as I live in Collier Row. Shared it with all my local friends! Thank you.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many thanks indeed Jane, always great to hear locals are happy with the film

    • @100joshua
      @100joshua 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnRogersWalks I loved that you included the ‘history bites’ too. Many folks here don’t realise what a (literally) majestic history Havering has. Some aren’t even aware there was a Royal Liberty here for hundreds of years, which is a shame. So just to tease them into rediscovery is great! Thank you.

  • @Stevejacovou
    @Stevejacovou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently Dick Turpin used stay at the golden lion pub in Romford market! How true that is I don’t know! Also where you walked by the river in Collier Row there’s a road called Turpin Avenue. Along that part of the river were pig farms too? The club that is in South Street Romford used to be The Odean cinema, back in the 60’s bands used to play there! The Stones, The Beatles and The Who played there. Great video, brought back some nice memories.

    • @Pierlover
      @Pierlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My brother went to see the Beatles at the Romford Odeon. I was considered too young to join him! His wife saw Cliff Richard there too!

  • @stephenpinder9567
    @stephenpinder9567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wherever that may be - special edition. Can't wait. Your videos just keep getting better. Good on ya John.

  • @angelailovekeepingupappear2466
    @angelailovekeepingupappear2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's time for some more john rogers walks great way to start the day

  • @stuartshipton5612
    @stuartshipton5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spooky that I watch this video on the 4 year anniversary of seeing Depeche Mode in the London Stadium! Great walk, thank you.

  • @lindalong5052
    @lindalong5052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in Harold Hill in LB Havering,a post war LCC estate. The only glimpse of the River Rom I remember was somewhere on North St . Our house in HH was about 100m from Paine's Brook and our telephone exchange was Ingrebourne. Romford in the 1950-60s had a cattle market. Back in the days when fields had cows in them. We had 2 school trips to the Ford factory. Once for O level geography,once for A level economics. I think it was to encourage us to study hard otherwise we'd end up in the vision of hell that was the Ford foundry or the panel pressing section.

  • @levilm69lovecoldplsywillia9
    @levilm69lovecoldplsywillia9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have the ability to tell us about places we've never been and sometimes never heard of and still make it interesting viewing

  • @ivanhockenhull2604
    @ivanhockenhull2604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Superlative stuff. Kudos for persevering with Dodgy Ankle, John. Great content coupled with effective exposition. These videos are a weekly highlight for me, 🇯🇪

  • @aarjaycee3601
    @aarjaycee3601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    a most interesting item from John Rogers again today. I'm thinking I may start carrying my copy of "This Other London" about with me whenever I set foot out of the house JUST IN CASE, I run into the man himself and I can ask him to sign it for me. I discovered these videos by total accident about a month or two ago and I have enjoyed every one I've watched and of course on the back of watching them, I just HAD TO have the book "This Other London" which I am thoroughly enjoying at this moment

    • @bryan3550
      @bryan3550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Aarjay - I've just finished reading it too, here in Australia: all the more enjoyable now being familiar with John's voice on camera! 🙃

    • @aarjaycee3601
      @aarjaycee3601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bryan3550 yes you DO tend to hear John saying the words on the page as you read them.

  • @hilaryknipe8754
    @hilaryknipe8754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou.

  • @jenniferlevine5406
    @jenniferlevine5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch 2.... I think that is the most beautiful river I have seen you walk.

  • @RajSinghKhalsa
    @RajSinghKhalsa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The river gets even more beautiful beyond the Fords closed public access, great walk John

  • @formdemon
    @formdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos have been prompted to get out and walk 240 miles over 5 weeks following many of your journeys. Thank you for inspiring me. It has been fantastic getting to know East London and beyond!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s really great to hear - thanks for letting me know

  • @borusa32
    @borusa32 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks John-nice Rivers of London reference -I have never done this but have often thought about it and you have inspired me.

  • @daveconyard8946
    @daveconyard8946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks John, Glad the legs getting ok . Keep safe . Brilliant share 👍😊

  • @GreyGhost.
    @GreyGhost. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    loved it, thanks mate,

  • @Tom_J23
    @Tom_J23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video John!
    Thx

  • @QatarSandMan
    @QatarSandMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. The River Rom runs in a culvert under the surface level of the Brewery shopping centre car park. The shopping centre was itself built on the site of the old Ind Coope Brewery. The Brewery was located there because of the river.

  • @ifadams2908
    @ifadams2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks John. Nice seeing Hainault Forest and Romford again. Places of my past. Oh, and hope your ankle continues to improve x

  • @alfredfrome9455
    @alfredfrome9455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember the Romford Brewery, the social secretary where I used to work in the early 80's could actually arrange a drink up in a brewery and a jolly spiffing evening it was too..

  • @peterspencer396
    @peterspencer396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good one! Should have a river clean up day!...week...year...

  • @adrianvodden8327
    @adrianvodden8327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Wantz Stream rises on the eastern slope of the Marks Gate elevation less than half a mile from the Rom before it enters King George's Playing Fields. The culverted stream flows south through Central Park Dagenham to emerge at Ballards Road and then to join the Rom.

  • @formdemon
    @formdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video John. Such a pleasure and an inspiration to sit and enjoy your walks.

  • @davesnelling3812
    @davesnelling3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one, thank you John.

  • @andywright3450
    @andywright3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great walk John as always thanku ...

  • @Seanchai59
    @Seanchai59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    River hunting - my favourite walk!

  • @kazzam8514
    @kazzam8514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great walk John, as always 👍

  • @robertbarling5601
    @robertbarling5601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this video John. Another place in Romford where you can see part of the river rom is along the edge of como street car park which is behind some of the shops in North street. Cheers, Bob.

  • @kevinpowell7948
    @kevinpowell7948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Romford geezer 🍀

  • @RobTaverner
    @RobTaverner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was whilst searching for lost rivers that I discovered John and his fantastic channel.

  • @Jablicek
    @Jablicek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi John, thank you for taking us along this walk with you. It's always fascinating to see how the landscape changes in use along rivers, how the rivers and urban areas mvoe around and accommodate each other. Hope the ankle and leg get better.

  • @musehic1953
    @musehic1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great walk shame so much are covered over . Looking forward to the next one wherever that may be .

  • @Steve_882
    @Steve_882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to live off Cornell way and always used to play out down by the rom in the 70s.. Happy times. You wouldn't believe how high the river used to get in heavy rain. used to go over the bridge at Firbank road. Great to se it again.:) thanks for sharing.

  • @derekpyne
    @derekpyne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done John. A long old walk and with your injury too.. Enjoyed the video 👍

  • @caseyfalconer7347
    @caseyfalconer7347 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is s great view of the Rom from behind the back of white hart lane shops where you can walk beside it for a good few minutes.

  • @keithfuller5923
    @keithfuller5923 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this walk John, thank you. The Rom was my playground from age 7 during summer holidays, lived and went to school in Collier Row, lived and worked in Romford, busked in the subways, and went to a Christmas party at Fords one year.
    Living in Oregon now, and don't get back much. So lovely to see this.

  • @waynejacksonofficial
    @waynejacksonofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed that .. Cheers mush.

  • @paularnold4440
    @paularnold4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you featured the Wantz stream. All around my childhood haunts. Flowing through Dagenham village until piped and the village flattened . Really enjoyed your walk. Thanks

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that was my favourite moment of the walk Paul

    • @paularnold4440
      @paularnold4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnRogersWalks Thanks John ,That was amazing to see. Because I know where it flowed it's very special to me

  • @RubbishGimpy
    @RubbishGimpy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is some direct access to the river in Collier Row to Romford and almost directly behind the cafe you ate in you missed a nice treat on the river with a wooden bridge going over. It possible to drop down right next to the river in Romford Town Centre. We used skateboard alone it to near the cardrome near Eastbrooke.

  • @rachelcaullay172
    @rachelcaullay172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a lovely walk John . Love Romford and the river Rom.

  • @jonasranson7677
    @jonasranson7677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My niece had her Christening in the St Edward The Confessor Church there you mention and the after celebrations in the Golden Lion. Similarly my grandfather had his funeral in the church and wake at the same pub. In the early 90’s I also used to work on a record stall on the market, Gumbi Records which also had a store in Southend in York Road Market, and one on Whitechapel Road.

  • @ralphwinter6421
    @ralphwinter6421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks John, Great River walk, Cheers mate..

  • @ChownieNaturalMrUniverse
    @ChownieNaturalMrUniverse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video of my local town. Don't know if you noticed but you walked past a great English heritage site, Rom Skatepark 😎.

  • @kerryannestevenson6099
    @kerryannestevenson6099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou John as usual, a delight .

  • @darrenrobson5977
    @darrenrobson5977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one John, what a Bonny wee river and I certainly enjoyed that river walk

  • @steppingrazorsoundplatesystem
    @steppingrazorsoundplatesystem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dollis Brook runs through the London Borough of Barnet in north London. It is a tributary of the River Brent, which is itself a tributary of the River Thames. The Dollis Valley Greenwalk follows almost all of Dollis Brook.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollis_Brook
    Dollis Valley Greenwalk
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollis_Valley_Greenwalk

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's been on my list for a while - will have to do it one day

  • @lesliegprice6652
    @lesliegprice6652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi John, Glad to see you walking around following the River ROM, wonderful, my mum lived in Romford round and through the war , I remember going to my Grandparents in Rush Green as a kid in the fifties and sixties, I left my toy cars on the bus and we had to go to bus garage to retrieve them, my uncles worked in Ford's , Dagenham, I also remember the old market place, very historical was full of those old clapboard building, I don't recognise most of it now last time I was there was 66 ! All the best, really enjoyed and appreciated this one , thank you ❤️

  • @mopettacars6262
    @mopettacars6262 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, I stumbled on you by sheer chance and am so pleased I did. Thankyou so much for your videos. You are obviously an educated and well read man who’s tours are educating me, so very interesting 👍

  • @denisjones7836
    @denisjones7836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I couldn't help but notice Romford is home to two Wetherspoons separated by another venue, that is an unusual but useable feature.

    • @interpoluk
      @interpoluk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always used to be a Lloyd's couple of doors along from the Spoons ( Moon Under the Water) I know they are linked but technically both not Wetherspoon's. Assume still a Lloyd's?

    • @denisjones7836
      @denisjones7836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@interpoluk I think Spoon's bought out the Lloyd's portfolio some time back. I'm always impressed that the buildings are repurposed from their original implementation, I like a pint as well.

    • @interpoluk
      @interpoluk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denisjones7836 Yes, that's what I meant by linked. Agree too, despite the stick Spoons get I always like their prices, range of drinks especially real ale ( though hate the anti European stock and campaigning stance) and the way the have saved and restored many fine buildings.

    • @christopherj8358
      @christopherj8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are not from Essex but I must add that the KLF tracentral recording studios were in Dagenham I believe. Another electronic link in some way.

    • @actuallypaulstanley
      @actuallypaulstanley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christopher Jarrett yes, in Old Dagenham; between Dagenham East and Dagenham Heathway. Used to see their car driving around the area many years back.

  • @nicholaskelly1958
    @nicholaskelly1958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John You mentioned the Romford Canal this was a most interesting project. Whilst there were various canal projects to link Romford with the Thames but for various reasons they never got anywhere.
    It would not be until 1875. Long after the heyday of the canal era that an Act of Parliament would be enacted to build the Romford Canal.
    Quite a lot of the Romford Canal was built. It also appears that the bottom two miles of the canal was actually completed. It is likely that the project was abandoned by 1877. However the land on which the canal was built would not be disposed of until 1916.
    It has been suggested that this section of the canal was used.
    Apart from the entrance lock into the Thames there was a lock just to the north of the A13 road in the grounds of a school. There are a number of photographs of this lock. One taken in 1936 shows that upper gates still in situ.
    As late as 1985 the lock was still visible being largely filled in.
    I have been told that it was eventually completely buried.
    Also buried is the tunnel under the railway. To the north of the railway the dry bed of the canal is clear to see running roughly parallel to the river.
    There are a number of canals and river navigations in the London area that are worth tracing.
    You mentioned the
    1) Grand Surrey Canal which was like the Romford Canal never actually completed.
    2) The City Canal across the Isle of Dogs which later became the South Dock of the West India Docks.
    3) The Croydon Canal which was an extension of the Grand Surrey.
    It was converted into a railway in 1836.
    If you know were to look quite a lot of the Croydon Canal survives albeit often as an echo of the canal!
    A useful guide to both the Grand Surrey and the Croydon Canals was published in 1986.
    'Retracing Canals To Croydon & Camberwell' by Brian J. Salter.
    Living History Publications 1986
    (The same organisation published an equally interesting guide to the earliest railways in London.
    The Surrey Iron Railway, The Croydon Canal Railway and The Croydon, Merstham & Godstone Railway. Along with the Wandsworth or MacMurray's Canal. Remember the Surrey Iron Railway was built because the River Wandle could not supply enough water for a Canal!)
    4) The Kensington Canal.
    This was a short canal on the north bank of the river.
    Running from the Thames virtually up to Kensington High Street.
    A distance of about 2 miles.
    It was not a great success and as a result the (mis) management of the canal was often featured in the pages of 'Punch'!
    5) The Grosvenor Canal.
    Like the Kensington Canal the Grosvenor Canal was a short canal (3/4 of a mile in length) on the north bank of the river. Originally the canal was a creek used by the Chelsea Waterworks Company who built the first steam engine in London.
    The Earl of Grosvenor building the canal in 1824.
    Over the years it was reduced in length due to the construction and expansion of Victoria Station.
    However what remained went on to be the last commercially operating canal in London.
    As rubbish transfer would continue until 1995.
    Today the site is a very up market housing development.
    That said the canal is still usable.
    6) Barking & Ilford Navigation/River Roding.
    This was another short navigation on the north bank of the Thames.
    As early as 1737 an Act of Parliament was passed to make the river navigable from the head of Barking Creek to Ilford.
    A single pair of tidal gates was installed at Barking Mills.
    This allowed barges to pass upstream at high water.
    The Faversham Navigation in Kent has a similar arrangement under the swing bridge at the entrance to the Pent on Faversham Creek.
    It appears that Younghusbands Timber were the last users of the navigation (They were believed to be behind The Barking & Ilford Navigation Company (1961) Ltd which still exists today).
    The timber traffic is believed to have ceased in 1967.
    That said the Roding is still a Statutory Navigation.
    7) The Royal Arsenal Canal.
    Like the Grosvenor Canal the Royal Arsenal Canal was originally 3/4 mile in length. Built in 1816. This very secretive waterway went about its business inside Woolwich Arsenal away from public glare. What remains of it including the entrance lock into the road and a railway swing bridge (Woolwich Arsenal had a vast internal railway system with some 400 miles of track on both 18"/457mm and Standard gauge (4' 81/2"/1435mm)!
    8) The Royal Gunpowder Mills.
    Waltham Abbey.
    Like the Royal Arsenal Canal the system of canals within the Royal Gunpowder Mills was largely unknown to the public at large until quite recently. At its maximum length there was some 10 miles of canal on three different levels inside the Gunpowder Mill complex.
    It is worth noting that there are 3 cast iron aqueducts in the complex (along with the most recent example built in the UK).
    9) The Dartford & Crayford Navigation.
    Like the Royal Gunpowder Mills Canal system the Dartford & Crayford Navigation is on the edge of Greater London.
    Whilst the River Darent/ Dartford Creek and its tributary the River Cray had been navigable for centuries it was not until 1840 that a navigation act was passed.
    This led to various improvements and some dredging.
    Then in 1895 a lock and weir was built downstream of Dartford.
    For many years this small waterway carried considerable traffic (up to 200,000 per annum)
    However changes in transport technology led to the navigation becoming disused by 1987.
    Today there is an active group working to return the rivers to a navigable condition.
    Anyway thanks for an excellent video!

  • @roymeadway3592
    @roymeadway3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great walk, thanks so much, can't beat a bit of river hunting

  • @2Sugarbears
    @2Sugarbears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for that John and take care of that ankle.

  • @ronkessler1219
    @ronkessler1219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi John
    Loved watching this walk i grew up in Colindale as kids we played in the silksteam ,it ran through the grounds of the old Colindale Hospital at the back of our house ,great times.
    Back to the video I was a bus driver at Barking and we had service's that went to a huge bus station in the Ford Dagenham works.
    I'm now in Perth Australia.
    Look forward to seeing your next walks.
    Regards Ron.

  • @briancox144
    @briancox144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most enjoyable John my neck of the woods lived in Dagenham now Harold Hill know the area’s very well great video .

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much Brian

    • @michaelpurnell8083
      @michaelpurnell8083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the redwoods you refer to i think are called wellingtonia trees.

  • @Suho1004
    @Suho1004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the walk, John! And best wishes on the ankle continuing to heal up.
    As for DM being the best electronic band ever... they are definitely up there. But for me it is Vince's longest-running venture, Erasure. Glad you added the mention of them in the edit--I was about to post a very animated comment pointing out the oversight! :D

  • @shaun4317
    @shaun4317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This affable and engaging fellow would make even his back garden an interesting visit.

  • @robbojax2025
    @robbojax2025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always a pleasure to walk with you and to always learn something new. I also appreciate that you embrace the new whilst telling us the history. Not everything new is bad. See you next time.

  • @nicholaskelly1958
    @nicholaskelly1958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks Nicholas - much appreciated

  • @nickbwalks
    @nickbwalks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John, another great walk, I do thank you for your time and effort, I lived in sunny old Romford for near 30 years as a kid, great to see a video on Romford, the Tatoo training in North Street used to be a Blockbusters video shop, I rented a many a video there, the shop about 3 doors to the left used to me the most amazing Kebab shop call Izmarz notorious for Kebaps in Romford. keep up the fantastic work, until the next time. lol.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing that info Nick - always a pleasure to read some real local knowledge

    • @octagon12011
      @octagon12011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think before that it was a musical instrument shop. I bought a bass guitar there and sold it back to them when I realised I couldn't play it. A few doors to the left was Rory O'Brien's bike shop where I worked one summer, probably 1965.

    • @nickbwalks
      @nickbwalks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, John I really appreciate the comment.

  • @jeremyrogers1247
    @jeremyrogers1247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, you uncover a lot of hidden history in your walks around London. I also like reading the comments on here from the locals who have connections with the areas you walk through.

  • @sallypassmore8748
    @sallypassmore8748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a super walk. Thank you for sharing.

  • @chrischatfield2935
    @chrischatfield2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up at Roneo corner ,Grenfell was my parks ,I played in that pill box you found .John that was an absolute delight but boy has it change

  • @gparry42
    @gparry42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another lovely walk! thankyou John.

  • @WalkAround_Official
    @WalkAround_Official 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Virtual Tour! 😊😊👍👍 AWESOME! Wonderful!

  • @actuallypaulstanley
    @actuallypaulstanley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Romford Market is a shadow of its former self.
    There used to be over a hundred stalls each Wednesday, Friday and Saturday, but now; last time I walked through on a Saturday there was about 30 or so.
    Used to enjoy walking through Romford Market, hearing all the chants from the market traders and seeing what they were selling...
    Nice video @John. Hainault forest, Collier Row, Roneo Corner and the rear of Rom skate and BMX park too. 👍🏼

  • @grandmasterbeats9732
    @grandmasterbeats9732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HEY JOHN LOOKING SMART. NICE TO SEE YOU OUT AND YES I AM TAKING MY DRUM TO THE NEXT LEVEL. LOVE YOUR EAST LONDON WALKS.

  • @athoshadjiantoni6403
    @athoshadjiantoni6403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A Ford factory in Dagenham has made great cars over the decades.

  • @athoshadjiantoni6403
    @athoshadjiantoni6403 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great walk around Havering, I haven't been to Romford since the lockdown started.
    And I see A lot of Old buildings around Romford while I am doing my shopping.

  • @mamnisel4815
    @mamnisel4815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely long walk John and you kept going through mud and Romford Market.Outer London especially the East is very rural and countryfied!!!

  • @grantbangkok
    @grantbangkok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John in Havering,,,,perfect!

  • @stephenquinn6485
    @stephenquinn6485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done for finishing that epic long walk sir
    Rest up your leg and ankle

  • @londoncabby
    @londoncabby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed that video John, very interesting! And I agree with your comment about Yazoo! 👍🏼👏🏼😆

  • @biddylisduff
    @biddylisduff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was serious flooding in Romford back in the day, with some loss of life and barrels of beer from Romford Brewery being washed downstream via the Beam towards the Thames. Some local chaps were later in front of the beak, caught retrieving and sampling several barrels near Beam Bridge! From Havering Libraries excellent archives (See Facebook page). Excellent John, know the area well. Love all the Cow Parsley along the riverbanks. Think there was actually a fresh water spring or well sunk at Romford Brewery originally, separate source from the Rom.

  • @maggielarkin9314
    @maggielarkin9314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your river walks John......along with your walks in old London....glad your ankle is better-ish...put some ice on it later...

  • @MRoderick89
    @MRoderick89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the river hunting walks that you do. I am doing OK my back has been more painful than usual but hot my neurology appointment in the next 2 weeks. Hope you are doing well thanks for the content

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best of luck Michael- hope it goes well

    • @MRoderick89
      @MRoderick89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnRogersWalks thank you mate

  • @alexthomson7465
    @alexthomson7465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EXCELLENT!! Cheers John, it was brilliant to see you walking the river I have so many memories of playing near (sometimes accidentally IN! lol). Wow Lambourne to Dagenham is quite some distance even with 2 good legs let alone one! Hope it mends itself pretty soon. Nice one John. Cheers, Alex

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks Alex - I really felt it the next day

  • @Pierlover
    @Pierlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Goodness, Romford has changed a lot since I lived in the area in the 60's. It was a bit sad to see that stretch of North Street with the closed shops, left high and dry by the bypass. It was always so busy with buses, cars and pedestrians and there was a very good record shop here. It was a real treat when my mum took me and my brother to Romford market - and I seem to remember there were sheep and other farm animals there in the early days - or did I imagine that? My dad used to work at Ford's - and organised a tour for me and some friends. All I remember about it was having tea at the end of the tour and eating raspberry jam sandwiches! There's a Wantz bridge in Cranham where I lived - any connection?

  • @interpoluk
    @interpoluk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to mention the significant event of the day of filming John. ⚒️ #europeantour. You cut off just as you were about to pass my Grandparents old house Mawney Road before you entered the park. Flooded quite badly there in the early 90's. You were very close to the famous old non league ground of Romford FC, Brooklands, off North Street.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my pleasure Liam - so glad it turned out well for the Hammers