Try being at retirement age when all you want to do is travel while there's still a few marbles left rolling around up there. and your wonderful govt. decides to lock you away -for over a year.
@@Smarterthanyew Well, I was speaking generally, and rather tongue-in-cheek. You are obtuse, insulting, and unpleasant. You add nothing to the conversation except vitriol and spite. I pity those who have the misfortune of knowing you personally.
The 'variant fear' is unfounded. As with SARS-COV 1 the first wave is the most lethal. the second wave more contagious but less lethal. By the 3rd to 5th wave, much more highly contagious like the common cold but not lethal at all except for very old people already close to death and prone to pneumonia. This has been described by epidemiologists who have dealt with SARS-COV 1.
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important.
Always enjoy listening to Lionel Shriver and agree with her on most issues. Steven Edginton is on par with Andrew Neil in that he does his homework. For one so young he is amazing. As an aside, the beard suits him.
@@just_another32 the exponential growth in transgenderism, weak men in leading positions thus the need for competent men to get things back in order in these horrific chaotic times requires beards as a marker of those strong men*, like every successful, thriving and forward thinking society. From Ancient Greeks to Victorian England to the rise of the Rebel Colonists that created the USA and put it on the course to world superpower and most prosperous, innovative and free country in human existence** *Also making women happy by not trying to be men and can be successful as women in a species that has male and females compliment each other, both as important as each other with different, on average, characteristics that balance out each other’s so not to go too far in any trait, male traits are hierarchical and female traits more equality based in their actions which even each other out to get a balance of being free to thrive, but responsibility to those who can’t. *At least since the last major ice age c.10,000 years ago. Before that, we know effectively nothing as a mile+ of ice over the land and it’s subsequent melting and the affects of that crushed, ground and washed away anything that was not buried very deep underground.
Saying Trumps tweet's was incitement to violence is infantilizing everyone. People are responsible for their own actions not others are responsible for them.
You can go to crowded supermarkets and travel on public transport but you cant play a round of golf on a local golf course with the club house closed; go figure (and I don't play or even like golf).
Lionel, for all her virtues and obvious decency, frustrates on her blind spot of political partisanship: that it was only her second, and not first, realisation that the multi-banning of Trump from so much social media was a Bad Thing; and that the Hunter Biden email story was not a big deal, when it was a huge deal on multiple levels. By the way, Steven is a quite astonishingly good interviewer, and only 21!
If only those like Lionel Shriver - strong minds & even stronger character & integrity - could be persuaded to enter the political realm. But then, those qualities would evaporate like water in a filthy desert.
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important
@@Ps-cz5fo I think people acquire a kind of learned helplessness. I have been in and out of hospital, and seen family sent home with paracetamol for a broken bone. At some point you kind of have to take your health into your own hands. It's easier said than done, and I'm not criticising, just relating. If it is cancer, or suspected to be, immediately stop consuming animal products. It has been shown that the amino acid methionine is like rocket fuel for cancer, and is highest in animal products, and highest still in fish and chicken. While red and processed meat were classed group 1 and 2 carcinogens by the World Health Organization. When vegan blood was dripped on cancer cells, it fought the cancer around 8 times better than non-vegans blood. I could post a lot of other stuff but you get the idea. Check out NutritionFacts youtube channel. Animal product consumption is actually not only the cause of the worlds biggest killer of humans, heart disease, also diabetes, dementia, and many cancers. So it's really worth doing proper research on the subject.
First! Freedom can’t be taken away. Because it’s a personal choice. Most don’t have it to begin with. Since early last year I only do what I decided to do. Of course other people’s conformity impacts what I can do, like can’t camping in a closed camp ground. But no one can stop me from wild camping.
I disagree. Freedom can be taken away, and it's wrong when that happens in general (prison might be an exception, if a person isn't wrongfully convicted).
Victoria Ward Obviously I could be sent to jail for trumped up speech or other “crimes”. What I tried to point out is that I refuse to curtail my speech for fear of being arrested, like many have started doing.
Sadly, "rolling over" sums things up perfectly. People didn't put up the slightest fight to defend their civil liberties. The government has noted this and so will not hesitate to repeat the exercise whenever it suits them. I'm sorry to say this, but I think the only way that UK governments will think twice about doing this again is if someone goes postal and is successful in taking out the PM and some of his ministers, or maybe some of their families. Unless it is very clear that tyranny carries a very high price then our liberties and freedoms are no longer safe. And let us never forget that these freedoms and liberties have always been won at the point of a sword. Magna Carta was not something the King signed willingly, and parliament, which has now betrayed us, was made a strong institution by cutting off the head of another king.
Cambodia population 16 million and still 0 deaths (virus that discriminates borders) Australia population 20 million and still 0 deaths from an Aboriginal Australian (virus that discriminates colour) pregnant mums (virus that discriminates birth labour terms) public transport employees (virus that discriminates public sector) child under 18 (virus that discriminates age) 0 Virus Millions AWAKE
Much of what is narrowly termed “politics” and current (Fauchian) “crisis management” seems to rest on a longing for certainty even at the cost of honesty, for an analysis which, once given, need not be re-examined. Such is the deadendedness, for us, of current “leaders/experts” and the failure of current institutional arrangements
Steven is a very good interviewer and Lionel a wise woman. Vaclav Havel, former Czech President, talked about virtue signalling by people in his post totalitarian society. Selfies and virtue signalling work well together. It works via laws, social psychologists, propoganda, media all aimed at the population in totalitarian control. His book - Power of the Powerless is worth reading, written in 1978. He says political and economic changes won’t reform anything - what we need is “profound existential and moral changes in society”. It is individuals that need to live within the truth, not blindly accept this lie.
a great and nice news is believing in Jesuchrist you have the eternal life .. read in the holy bible Romans 10 : 9 and 10 .. st john 3: 15 to 18 🌺🌷🌿🍂🍁🙏
Unfortunately she's taking up the part of a loud shouter at the sideline. These people never consider taking up politics and taking up responsability themselves. And by the way, we're end march now and we see huge outbreaks everywhere now. It's not seasonal, Lionel, and the only thing that does seem to make a difference is consistent policy.
@@RkristinaTay Nobody loves lockdowns, Nell. That's a ridiculous statement. You could say that some power hungry people could use it as a means of control, but the truth is that most leaders for the past year have been too reluctant to accept it as an efficient way to combat the pandemic. Take Boris Johnson. Turns out in Octobre of last year he was screaming and shouting at Downing Street that he would never ever allow another lockdown. He had to come to terms with it anyway and listen to science... I admit: authoritarian governments like China have it much easier imposing a lockdown because they do not have to face any opposition, but that doesn't mean the lockdown is a bad thing in itself. It is a tool that can be abused. Democratic governments usually have to resort to other means to rally the mob: panem et circenses, bread and circuses. At that's just the problem isn't it? The restaurants (bread) and festivals (circuses) are the things that they have to take away from people if they issue a lockdown. Is it any wonder that they hesitate a bit to impose another one? I dare say that people are being much more manipulated and pacified like tame sheep when life is back to normal and everybody is happy again with all the entertainment and opulence around. When people are deprived of this, there's much more discontentment, bringing our leaders in a far more insecure position...
Just a point I'm white end of but we've had black now not 'allowed' then it was African American or Ethinic Minorities or BAME or Person of Colour etc. Chinese possibly Oriental now Asian and Arab Middle Eastern and on and on whereas whites white...
Being in the prime of your life with young kids when the state turns tyrannical, talk about bad luck.
Try being at retirement age when all you want to do is travel while there's still a few marbles left rolling around up there. and your wonderful govt. decides to lock you away -for over a year.
It's so refreshing to hear SOMEONE publicly speak my own opinions. At least there is someone else rational out there.
There are many!
Well you aren't rational, if you believe only you and her are rational. God you leolle are thick
@@Smarterthanyew haha!
@@Smarterthanyew Well, I was speaking generally, and rather tongue-in-cheek. You are obtuse, insulting, and unpleasant. You add nothing to the conversation except vitriol and spite. I pity those who have the misfortune of knowing you personally.
The 'variant fear' is unfounded. As with SARS-COV 1 the first wave is the most lethal. the second wave more contagious but less lethal. By the 3rd to 5th wave, much more highly contagious like the common cold but not lethal at all except for very old people already close to death and prone to pneumonia. This has been described by epidemiologists who have dealt with SARS-COV 1.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
So good to listen to common sense, so rare these days.
Tell me about it
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important.
Always enjoy listening to Lionel Shriver and agree with her on most issues. Steven Edginton is on par with Andrew Neil in that he does his homework. For one so young he is amazing. As an aside, the beard suits him.
Totally agree with all those points! Don't usually like beards, but that one does suit him!
@@just_another32 the exponential growth in transgenderism, weak men in leading positions thus the need for competent men to get things back in order in these horrific chaotic times requires beards as a marker of those strong men*, like every successful, thriving and forward thinking society. From Ancient Greeks to Victorian England to the rise of the Rebel Colonists that created the USA and put it on the course to world superpower and most prosperous, innovative and free country in human existence**
*Also making women happy by not trying to be men and can be successful as women in a species that has male and females compliment each other, both as important as each other with different, on average, characteristics that balance out each other’s so not to go too far in any trait, male traits are hierarchical and female traits more equality based in their actions which even each other out to get a balance of being free to thrive, but responsibility to those who can’t.
*At least since the last major ice age c.10,000 years ago. Before that, we know effectively nothing as a mile+ of ice over the land and it’s subsequent melting and the affects of that crushed, ground and washed away anything that was not buried very deep underground.
Lionel Schriver and Steven Edgington - both superb in their fields!!! Thanks
An astute comment about people not wanting to make their decisions.
Nanny state turned police state
That’s the progress part of ‘Progressivism’ as was pointed out by sceptical people and they have been proven right.
Yay you got Lionel on! Beard suits you by the way!
She needs to be honest about Trump. Just do it Lionel. Under Trump, race relations were much better!
She speaks the truth and the future is frightening.
Saying Trumps tweet's was incitement to violence is infantilizing everyone. People are responsible for their own actions not others are responsible for them.
I love this interview and normally thumbs down the parroting style reporting. This interview gives me hope for our futures.
great conversation
You can go to crowded supermarkets and travel on public transport but you cant play a round of golf on a local golf course with the club house closed; go figure (and I don't play or even like golf).
Lionel, for all her virtues and obvious decency, frustrates on her blind spot of political partisanship: that it was only her second, and not first, realisation that the multi-banning of Trump from so much social media was a Bad Thing; and that the Hunter Biden email story was not a big deal, when it was a huge deal on multiple levels. By the way, Steven is a quite astonishingly good interviewer, and only 21!
If only those like Lionel Shriver - strong minds & even stronger character & integrity - could be persuaded to enter the political realm. But then, those qualities would evaporate like water in a filthy desert.
"sitting 'round waiting for your life to begin, when it's all just slipping away"
Jan 2020 my sister put on emergency waiting list to get lump cone biopsy still waiting in Jan 2021. Why because not deemed priority
Bruuuuuce
@@libertywilly7519 always gone with "Brrroooooooooooooooooce" myself. But well spotted
Careful. People can't handle the Truth. They couldn't even handle a Reality Star President lol.
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important
Lionel Shriver is always on point. Some of her opinions sounded extreme to me when this discussion was first online-but she was/is right.
Urm let's not call boris a libertarian that's just a joke
What about the interview that it was said that they have prioritised covid patients and turned away cancer patients. Ireland health official said all this. How many people through the years affected by cancer now not important
Jan 2020 my sister put on emergency waiting list to get lump cone biopsy still waiting in Jan 2021. Why because not deemed priority!
@स्टीवन केनेथ मोसेले nope, she can't afford private, so wrong, how is treating cancer not profitable!!!don't you dare try to dismiss neglect of care!
@@Ps-cz5fo I think people acquire a kind of learned helplessness. I have been in and out of hospital, and seen family sent home with paracetamol for a broken bone. At some point you kind of have to take your health into your own hands. It's easier said than done, and I'm not criticising, just relating.
If it is cancer, or suspected to be, immediately stop consuming animal products. It has been shown that the amino acid methionine is like rocket fuel for cancer, and is highest in animal products, and highest still in fish and chicken. While red and processed meat were classed group 1 and 2 carcinogens by the World Health Organization. When vegan blood was dripped on cancer cells, it fought the cancer around 8 times better than non-vegans blood.
I could post a lot of other stuff but you get the idea. Check out NutritionFacts youtube channel. Animal product consumption is actually not only the cause of the worlds biggest killer of humans, heart disease, also diabetes, dementia, and many cancers. So it's really worth doing proper research on the subject.
@@Ps-cz5fo Check out these videos.
@@Ps-cz5fo "Ex Vivo Cancer Proliferation Bioassay"
@@Ps-cz5fo "Starving Cancer with Methionine Restriction"
First! Freedom can’t be taken away. Because it’s a personal choice. Most don’t have it to begin with. Since early last year I only do what I decided to do. Of course other people’s conformity impacts what I can do, like can’t camping in a closed camp ground. But no one can stop me from wild camping.
I disagree. Freedom can be taken away, and it's wrong when that happens in general (prison might be an exception, if a person isn't wrongfully convicted).
Victoria Ward Obviously I could be sent to jail for trumped up speech or other “crimes”. What I tried to point out is that I refuse to curtail my speech for fear of being arrested, like many have started doing.
@@gdaqian OK, I understand your point now. It was just that I disagree with the statement that freedom can't be taken away. Look at China!
Lionel is brilliant and spot on
Sadly, "rolling over" sums things up perfectly. People didn't put up the slightest fight to defend their civil liberties. The government has noted this and so will not hesitate to repeat the exercise whenever it suits them.
I'm sorry to say this, but I think the only way that UK governments will think twice about doing this again is if someone goes postal and is successful in taking out the PM and some of his ministers, or maybe some of their families. Unless it is very clear that tyranny carries a very high price then our liberties and freedoms are no longer safe.
And let us never forget that these freedoms and liberties have always been won at the point of a sword. Magna Carta was not something the King signed willingly, and parliament, which has now betrayed us, was made a strong institution by cutting off the head of another king.
Cambodia population 16 million and still 0 deaths (virus that discriminates borders)
Australia population 20 million and still
0 deaths from an Aboriginal Australian (virus that discriminates colour)
pregnant mums (virus that discriminates birth labour terms)
public transport employees (virus that discriminates public sector)
child under 18 (virus that discriminates age)
0 Virus
Millions AWAKE
Hmmm true true. We're indulged with the "bread and circus" comforts, preventing a rising of the people holistically
@@byronadholla770
ALL movements are seeded & planted by think tanks,shell companies,intel orgs,corps,police,govts,military
NO exceptions
Maybe you shouldn't have voted for Biden, then, Li.
And yet she voted Biden. Lost credibility at that point.
Much of what is narrowly termed “politics” and current (Fauchian) “crisis management” seems to rest on a longing for certainty even at the cost of honesty, for an analysis which, once given, need not be re-examined. Such is the deadendedness, for us, of current “leaders/experts” and the failure of current institutional arrangements
@00:38 excellent blooper! Love it!
Steven is a very good interviewer and Lionel a wise woman. Vaclav Havel, former Czech President, talked about virtue signalling by people in his post totalitarian society. Selfies and virtue signalling work well together. It works via laws, social psychologists, propoganda, media all aimed at the population in totalitarian control. His book - Power of the Powerless is worth reading, written in 1978. He says political and economic changes won’t reform anything - what we need is “profound existential and moral changes in society”. It is individuals that need to live within the truth, not blindly accept this lie.
Good lord pubs have never been “safe” 😂😂😂 and they are always packed 😂
She has cognitive dissonance as it pertains to Trump.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Brilliant woman.
The problem is our species are in decline. Life is so easy that more person's have survived whom would not have.
The difference with this pandemic and previous ones is the number of people and free movement internationally.
Not worth watching, same old wine and complain without solutions, typical ‘stir them up’ stuff. Disappointing, I hoped for more.
Google censors too.
I have not loved this one iota !
For goodness sake, is she wearing disposable gloves?
is total fractured frequency waveforms unbalanced vibration. watching yourself and imagining intuitively is serious
a great and nice news is believing in Jesuchrist you have the eternal life ..
read in the holy bible Romans 10 : 9 and 10 .. st john 3: 15 to 18 🌺🌷🌿🍂🍁🙏
If your friend(s) believe it's all bollucks, meet for a coffee at home or a coffee shop that's open.
Mr murdoch owns the sun and he owns talk radio , of course talk radio would not censor peter hitchens with mike graham or would they?
Unfortunately she's taking up the part of a loud shouter at the sideline. These people never consider taking up politics and taking up responsability themselves. And by the way, we're end march now and we see huge outbreaks everywhere now. It's not seasonal, Lionel, and the only thing that does seem to make a difference is consistent policy.
@@RkristinaTay Nobody loves lockdowns, Nell. That's a ridiculous statement. You could say that some power hungry people could use it as a means of control, but the truth is that most leaders for the past year have been too reluctant to accept it as an efficient way to combat the pandemic. Take Boris Johnson. Turns out in Octobre of last year he was screaming and shouting at Downing Street that he would never ever allow another lockdown. He had to come to terms with it anyway and listen to science... I admit: authoritarian governments like China have it much easier imposing a lockdown because they do not have to face any opposition, but that doesn't mean the lockdown is a bad thing in itself. It is a tool that can be abused.
Democratic governments usually have to resort to other means to rally the mob: panem et circenses, bread and circuses. At that's just the problem isn't it? The restaurants (bread) and festivals (circuses) are the things that they have to take away from people if they issue a lockdown. Is it any wonder that they hesitate a bit to impose another one?
I dare say that people are being much more manipulated and pacified like tame sheep when life is back to normal and everybody is happy again with all the entertainment and opulence around. When people are deprived of this, there's much more discontentment, bringing our leaders in a far more insecure position...
Death and case numbers are bollucks. I don't know anyone who has died. Does the interviewer?
Just a point I'm white end of but we've had black now not 'allowed' then it was African American or Ethinic Minorities or BAME or Person of Colour etc. Chinese possibly Oriental now Asian and Arab Middle Eastern and on and on whereas whites white...
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What China did worked, India, conversely didn't. Which model would you choose? But then, everybody's entitled to their own stupid opinion.
You believe anything China says? I don’t. It’s an evil empire. I’m certain they are not giving us the truth as to how well they are doing.
The Indian economy will surpass the Chinese economy by 2050.
The Zionist video edit on the first clip...
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