White Oak Glass River Table
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- I build an all black glass river table that should have been much easier than it was…. This one almost wrecked me.
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I've got tons of respect for how you guys keep setbacks in your videos to show beginner woodworkers that it's okay to have flaws in your work and that you can fix them. My grandfather, who was a carpenter and woodworker, used to say that the skill of a craftsman can be measured by how well he can fix problems, and you guys would definitely have earned his respect.
Most wood working videos show their mistakes
@@somebodyandthemyeah it's not uncommon at all lok
This is great stuff. More weird please😂
Mistakes are a desired result because they boost views. Ruining a $10k table is a moneymaker.
Mistakes are a desired result because they boost views. Ruining a $10k table is a moneymaker.
Not an idiot. A skilled wood worker who squares out challenges as they come. You still have a reasonable amount of fingers, two eyes and no limp ... that does it for me, security wise 👍👍👍
At my work they say, "Did you work safely or were you just lucky?" I'm not talking bad about John. I'm just saying that still being all in one piece doesn't necessarily mean you were safe lol
@@CeeJayThe13th I know - I was actually a safety guard for 17 years, working with physical safety. Noone should take physical safety lightly, but I am quite sure, John knows how not to turn on that machine unintentionally. 👍🌞👍.
With oak you can blacken it by soaking a wad of steel wool in vinegar in a sealed jar overnight and then painting that vinegar onto the wood. It soaks in deep and has been used for hundreds of years to "ebonize" oak.
Ive done that before works great downside is the smell lingers for a good while at least 2 months in my experience
@@Tropicoboy Washing the wood with water w/ baking soda then rinsing thoroughly with plain water will help that smell dissipate quickly.
@@k9turrentdoes that affect the colour at all? Or is the black permanent??
@@R__A In my experience, it doesn't "reverse" the ebonizing, only 'stops' it by neutralizing the acids. It's like rinsing bleach off clothing, it's no longer "working" but the damage is already done
@@k9turrent ty for info🙏
Love the build, but I really really loved the look after you had to sand the top down - the bare wood top against the the black "river" edges....that was awesome!!
Yeah as much as I love the final look, and I really do, my personal preference is also the black river edges and natural wood either side. It's a pretty striking combination with that glass colour!
I didn't pay attention to the title on this one. I was expecting an epoxy pour. I agree with the customer, I love it.
Gotta call blacktail studios finish product… looks super easy and has a tutorial
No! They'll just pour gallons of epoxy all over it.
Agree about the lack of directions on Rubio products. Used Rubio for the first time, results okay but all along I haven’t been sure I’m applying correctly. Would like to see you film a tutorial.
Agreed, and not helped by the fact the whole label is printed in a 3 point typeface or something…. Impossible to read
Shake, spread on as quickly and evenly as possible. Buff in with a white 3m pad. Buff off with shop towels until all residue is removed from the surface. Rubio is my absolute go-to and I don't offer any other finish
I went to a rubio instructional day to see its functionality on furniture and feel its only really for floors. Have only had issues trying to get a good finish on any kitchens we have used it and it has only caused problems with the customer. A traditional stain and clear matt lacquer has never failed me so that's the way I'll be sticking to in future
Love the table mate; a little surprised how good a totally black table looks ! Have to say I enjoy you showing the issues and mistakes as well as that is far more realistic compared to some woodworking channels !!
Beautiful table, the colour is not what I would’ve picked.
Such a skilled shop, I love that you show and talk us through your problem solving process
This was a great video again like always and your a great woodworker and I love watching all your videos and I always watch and your a lot of fun to watch and thank u for showing us your work!! 😊
The table came out looking great, amazing work guys. If this table had of been for me I'd have been super happy with how it was looking at 19:38, the natural wood with the black glass recess. It's generally my style of décor with mixing black and natural wood colours.
I was gonna say the same thing. It looked awesome like that, would have loved to see the glass in it like that.
I found your videos recently, and I've been slowly watching a BUNCH (I know this is one of your older ones). You are so engaging to watch, I love that you're honest and show all your mistakes, how to fix them, and don't mind trying things that are completely insane looking!
Best thing about professionals on TH-cam is they show their mistakes and how they fixed them. Too many people pretend everything went to plan.
Anytime ive had uneven sheen it has been because of the grain being sanded uneven. Wetting the bare wood with a damp cloth and sanding up from 60 grit usually helps
So I'm no woodworker, but I have a couple suggestions for the finishing issue. In leather working, particularly for dark stains you often dampen the leather all the way through prior to prevent different areas that were more dry from absorbing the color more quickly than other spots causing splotchiness.
The next is one of the other woodworking TH-camrs, maybe Blacktail made a video about a Rubio product and he referenced needing to wipe it down a lot. Like scrubbing it with fresh rags until you got nothing on your rag as opposed to a normal stain where you apply, wait a little, then wipe off the excess and let it finish drying. It looks like this particular product might need that same kind of treatment.
The table looks great by the end! If you were to do another black table would you ever consider using an ebonizing solution? On white oak it work really well.
The live edge under the glass is🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
Love how the blue tint creates a shimmer down the live edge underneath. Top job 👏
What do you think about using those temporary nylon nails to hold things in place as opposed to double sided tape etc? (I know it's best to use them when you're doing CNC type stuff as it's not visible and it's easy to just knock the piece off when you're done).
I love the look of white oak, so I would have probably used a slightly honey tinted oil finish. But I agree, you have to give the customer what they ask for. this table did turn out outstanding.
Ton of respect for the way you just kept moving forward. Did rubio fix their stupidity at all?
White oak is my absolute favorite to work with...theres just so much you can play with on the finish
I love that table
I LOVE blackened white oak. It's been one of my favorite styles for a while. I probably would have tinted the glass black if it was mine.
We have been using Osmo to finish all of our tables lately. Like it way more than Rubio. However we haven't tried tinting the osmo
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
I love all of your projects!!!
I would love too see a colab between your shop and Cam from Blacktail Studios. That would definitely be one of the best products ever created!!
Oh, we will
I reckon I would have left the edges raw and done the black. I love me a black stain but that's too heavy in my opinion. And it would have helped the whole piece tie into their dining room better. I build tables too and yeah, gotta do what the client wants!
Wow!!! What great craftsmanship. You won’t learn if don’t fail. Failure is one step closer to perfection and you NAILED it!!!
love the table! but when you said all black i thought the glass would be black too. or at least grey. the blue just looks off in my opinion 🤔
I agree. I thought a different color of glass, such as a more bronze tint would look better.
Amazing, it wouldve been nice to keep the rubio just to make future touchups easier, cuzz you know black is going to show everything. Darn good tho!!
When I roll I alwasy cross roll then I do a light roll in one direction it definitely helps wirh a perfecly even spread...rubio is good stuff they have directions online brother...oh and always de shed your rollers and brushes prior to using...great project dude
India ink works with slightly less issue than precolor.. I used both with monocoat over top.. plus India Ink is cheaper. But that tinted laquer looks wayyy better imo
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Turned out awesome. I sampled Rubio on a project and could never get it to look right... and it's expensive. I settled on Odie's Oil and was more than impressed with the look and ease of use.
Amazing job with a top save!!😮. Have you ever considered a really thinned down bitumen? It soakes deep into the wood, easy to reapply and it’s worked for a thousand years
Love the fresh tattoo peeking out under shirt sleeve too
The ending is giving Shark Tank vibes with the delivery!!!
Table turned out great. Glad you were able to keep moving forward through issues.
There’s a 2 days time crunch but John out there getting a new tattoo lol
To fix the sheen on the Rubio I like to throw a microfiber onto my random orbital sander and it picks up the excess color and evens out the sheen and color. Absolutely love the build though!
I agree. One of the best tables you made, as well as that Bartop for brewery. Top notch
I really love the look of white oak, and would not choose to stain it black. I would have used a very slightly amber oil finish. in my experience, a slightly amber oil finish gives you a warm look that ages very well. this is a really cool table. not my style, but you dont pick your customers
Keep on kicking but on those challenges! What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger!
Reading these comments, maybe we need a "John tries viewer suggestions" video about different ways to 'blacken'(I guess? lol) wood?
The table looks fantastic! I'm not a snob about turning wood into a solid color but generally I'm not a big fan of it - but this looks great!
Very disappointed that this wasn't a mammoth tusk restoration video this week. Hopefully next week.
That damn Cam dude keeps buying them all….
I Love This Dudes Videos ✌🏻💐
John that is so awesome. Love how every time you do something a few times it just gets better and better. Epic build
This is why i watch this channel and started watching this!!! Awsome!!!
Did you mix the oil plus 2c with hardener? From video it looks like you just poured the oil directly from the bottle. I believe that's why it was splotchy.
Hola! 🖐That table looks really nice. I was with you, black did not sound like it had a good pop to it. Once it was delivered and in it's final resting space, wow! Great job. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
1:37 i really love white oak because of its raisin flex too 😜
Good shit, John. I'd love to see a follow up on the Rubio stuff if you get it sorted out.
I hope Cam at blacktail can give some insight!
Great job!
If you only worried about the tinted lacquer bounding over the rubio I believe that a coat of shellac between the two would have guaranteed a good bound.
Love the glass river table. Great job.
@3:51 THE EQUIVALENT OF A GOOD SLAG PEEL IN WELDING.. SOOO SATISFYING..
Killer build john! Props to you and the team
Lol I thought when you said they wanted an ALL BLACK table I immediately thought of the New Zealand national Rugby team the All Blacks 😂😂
Cut the glass then router tye shape. Less stress. Love the projects.
I think there was an issue with the oil finish and type of wood you were using it on. As you are no doubt aware, white oak is not very permeable, so with a high pigment level stain like this, the variation in the grain was likely causing absorption to not be consistent across the whole slab. The solution would most likely have been to cut the finish with a mineral spirit slightly and giving less time for the stain to penetrate while splitting the application into multiple thinned out coats, assuming that the Rubio product would work with this change done to it.
I would just not use it on a closed grain wood that has as tight of a grain as white oak again without experimenting with it first.
I think this would look even better with LED lights under the glass.
John awesome work as always. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. Stay squirrely. God bless.
Nice table top but couldn't the table legs be better done. Like somehow make the legs so there is no cross bar visible through the glass.
Great vid as always.
If there's no crossbar, the two halves wouldn't be connected. I have no idea how you could make one not visible
LETS GOO, back to back weeks
I always feel Lew is just about to break something. Don't know why, but it has me on the edge of my seat anytime he is in the video.
If you put steel wool and apple cider vinegar it makes a stain that'll turn your wood really black gotta let it sit for about 24 hours. You could also Char it with a torch and rubb in linseed oil after a quick buff with steel wool and while it's still warm
Vinegar steel wool is good to turn oak blackish. It gives a cool look.
Outstanding!!
the picture wall at the end is crazy
Shame about the Rubio, that black dye was looking gorgeous. Would love to see you do something with it once you've figured it out!
Confucius say, "too much bonging with the table leads to insufficient color bonding with the table". 🤣🤣
Sorry John, I just couldn't stop from typing it ... 19:41
We use general finishes water based black stain for the base coat instead of the rubio precolor for the exact reason. Also have had good luck with the GF black poly
Nothing like an open fly at 5:50 😂
Looking at the 13" wide piece of wood behind you in the outro... thoughts on an inverse expoxy river table? Throw that peice of wood in the center for the river and epoxy the edges?
I would’ve gone with a just a dark wood finish, but that black looks absolutely sick. Missed these client videos from y’all. Loved the process.
What do you mean, you don't know who to blame if it went wrong!!??? ALWAYS blame the NEW guy!! Welcome, NEW Sam!!
My shop has the same thunder laser. It’s a dream! I love it
3:43 I was "Let's go! Oh, shit! Yes! Yeaaaaaaaaaah!"
bonging, yesssss
New Tattoo?! looking like a nice new fresh wrap on your left arm there John.. Can we get a show case?!
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Wow one of your best works! ❤
I'm just glad you sealed the top before "bonging" 😆 Looked great in the end!
It would be interesting to see the tests pieces for these larger projects to see how many you have to go through, also that is a huge let down with the pre color for Rubio! Would you consider doing some videos on different products that have given you grief and how you got around it or suggestions for alternatives?
Not sure how often you respond to comments, but I did have a question about the profession. I love building things in general and have wanted to get into woodworking for a long time. How did you get started in it?
You’ve put the Rubio pre colour on too thick. (I’ve learnt this the hard way also!) then it takes more like 1 1/2 days until it’s dry enough to de nib ready for the oil 2c
Also don’t use a roller- I know they say you can, but it goes wrong every time. Use the beige scrubby pad
Beautiful table. I would've liked to have seen it with the black base and natural table with the glass
Build a wine cabinet next!
I had an issue with regular Rubio before. I sanded way to slow and left streaks along my sanding path.
Sanded by hand with the grain and applied again and that worked fine. Just a thoyght
Love using Rubio, but they just assume you know what you are doing evidently. Figured out the standard finishing process by watching guys like you on TH-cam. I like their Cotton White on oak, but some of their other colors like their greys and even their Walnut have come out splotchy for me as well. Have never tried their pre-kellers (Pitts burg spelling for color) but don't think I want to now.
Love your stuff, keep up with the client builds very fun. Plz check in with the boys old and new. You pick some good guys to work with.
If the customer is over the moon with it, the jobs a good one. Well done.
Nice work , way to over come unforeseen every frickin time problems 👍
I love leaving bark on.
Looks AMAZING. Great job.
Did you get a new Tat??
Every project I watch you create just amazes me more and more. Beautiful job brother!!!
Absolutely awesome💪😎
I love your channel and have expressed my passion to my coworkers on how amazing you are when it comes to building these amazing projects!!! Every time I see your videos, I always think to myself that the photo you have a Nick Offerman in the background how incredible would it be if you did a project with him 💙
Oh!! You need 3X3's router base! LOL
Once you discovered the lip depth issue, you made a template of the glass to fix up the edge ... why not wait to cut that lip until after you have the glass, when you can template it. No doing it twice, and a perfect fit (as long as the template is good) every time. Hell at that point, go back to the water jet, and have them cut you a matching acrylic template as they cut the glass.
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