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It amuses me how many of these stories start with "however, American/British code breakers...". Germany: "This is the plan. Got it?" Japan: "Yep, cool" Italy: "Yep, cool" US/UK: "Yep, cool"
Something like this almost happened at the Battle of Midway. When the two SBD squadrons from the Enterprise finally came across the carriers, everyone started to follow the lead attackers onto one carrier, the Kagi. Fortunately, a Lieutenant Best recognized this error and took his group to attack a second carrier, Akagi. Had he not done so, the Japanese would have had two carriers rather than just one after this attack.
Well that was because they didn't use the MK 14 on the Shōhō...MK 13 was used...the early MK 13s worked very well. Really killed the Shōhō. But after they ran of of them they used the later version of the 13 (with propellers after the fins) on the other two Japanese carriers.. with very poor results.
@@deafsmith1006 they were using the same Mk. 13s at Midway a month later and those performed in a manner that should have resulted in summary court martials for everyone at BuOrd who even _thought_ of the word 'torpedo'.
I am laughing very hard at wave after wave of aircraft attacking the T17 Support Group, and the last wave is actually US bombers, like the confused looking around scene from Pulp Fiction.
It's amazing how the Pacific war reshaped the concept of naval warfare. Essentially overnight most traditional naval tactics became obsolete and the strategy became centered around these massive games of hide and seek. Find the carriers, and send everything you can possibly send to kill them. Do that, and you win.
And after that, naval warfare just became find the ships, since enemy is unlikely to have carriers now, and throw a few salvos of cruise missiles against them. Naval warfare severely shrank after this war
This Illustrated to me better than any other lesson I've had so far the amount of confusion and blind stabbing in the dark that led up to this battle, which none of the time could have known was so pivotal.
Being an Admiral leading a task force in this situation sounds like the most stressful thing imaginable. So many decisions to make, so much information coming in (often inaccurate), and any wrong decision can spell doom for the task force or even doom for their country's efforts in the theater.
after 6 months of this, fletcher lost dozens of pounds and came down with shingles. took him several more months to recover and return to the front line
@@mackhomie6 that was only a month after. Also the IJN thought they were only facing 2 carriers. So even though they did eventually sink Yorktown. They thought they got Enterprise and Hornet.
American aviators we're untested and just a bit cocky. They had similar problems during the Marshal Island Raid in February, and will still at Midway the month next.
@Rod I feel bad that your mind has been so poisoned that you feel the need to comment politically on a complete non-political statement. Maybe some time away from the internet might be a good idea?
Fletcher was an awful! He was constantly wrong. History shows he was always blessed with capable subordinates. The only loss his officers and men couldn't save was Wake Island, hence the low opinion of him by Marines as well as other Admirals. He was quietly given shore duty after 1942.
This situation seems just... So utterly farcical. Everyone's missing everyone else, the two sides being 70 miles apart and never knowing... I can only imagine that there was lots of swearing once all the After-Action Reports were compiled.
Its the first time in history two naval fleets have ever fought a battle without being able to directly see each other, they were never going to get it right the first time.
It was a new kind of warfare and both navies were making up the rules as they went but missed opportunities were the norm before GPS. Early in WWII in the Mediterranean the Italians were out with a cruiser group looking for a British cruiser group. At the same time in the same area the French had a cruiser group out looking for the Italians. In all the maneuvering at one point all three groups were within thirty miles of each other and never spotted each other. A good what if for a miniatures replay is the French and the Italians did ran into each other.
I believe why they where so succesful was because the conditions where ideal for torpedo attack. They didn't have massive amount of flak coming at them and no enemy fighters either, so they had time to line up their attacks perfectly on a allready damaged and probably slowed down carrier. In Midway they didn't have any of those benefits and pretty much got slaughtered before they could make their attacks. Military Aviation History channel made a good video about the TBD that explained all this I just wrote in a more greater detail if you want to learn more.
@Apocalypse21 I've seen several references to "torpedo boats" that seem like a kind of running joke. My investigation of the naval aspects of the Pacific war being somewhat recent, I'm not quite up to speed yet. Can you fill me in on the "torpedo boats" reference? Thanks.
@Apocalypse21 Cool! Thanks for your kind reply, and thanks especially for pointing me in the Drachward direction. In fact, it's on Drach's channel that I've seen most of the "torpedo boats" references. And given his penchant for brilliant (...I think so, anyway) tongue-in-cheek humor, I've gotten the impression that the joke is based on one of the witticisms Drach sprinkles throughout his excellent videos. Thanks again, amigo. 😎
The lack of situational awareness compared to today reminds me of reading Cujo. Written in a time when cell phones weren't a thing is all that makes the peril in that story believable.
These are better than ANYTHING being put put out by The History Channel or Discovery. Thanks for all your time and energy put into these videos. These accurate break downs of battles are incredible.
My dad was with the 20th Seabees which with Army, Marine Radar units and other Seabee units invaded Woodlark Island in July 1943. There were still remains of Japanese sailors by the hundreds from the carrier Shoho who had washed up on the beaches of Southern Woodlark Island who were killed in the battle of the Coral Sea.
It's a shame Yorktown'ts planes didn't target the rest of the flotilla, rather than striking an overkilling blow on the light carrier. But, as said by someone else in the comments, hindsight is 20/20.
The US got a lot of lessons learned from Coral Sea, they managed to take some onboard by Midway, but even then control of the strikes was luck more than design.
Those US Aircrew behind it didn't know how many hits that Shoho was already striked, they are not even aware if it was fleet or light carrier, but they focus mostly on them, because 'light carrier is more important than Battleship'.
My grandfather managed Rabaul golf course after the war, the amount of relics on those islanders he said was amazing. He said the Japanese eventually came back years later and cleaned it up. But to this day there’s plenty of crashed planes through the forrests and a few ships still there. One of the main air fields there’s was destroyed by a volcano and all you could see was the tails of the planes.
Me = finally back at home from a 14 hour day eating and mostly drinking. Quite drunk, quite tired. Sat deep in the couch, feet on the coffee table, pick my phone up and realise this gem is waiting for me. My night is complete. Thank you TOR.
Thank you for uploading. The Battle of the Coral Sea gets so little attention following so close to Midway, but I find it so interesting. Love the details you've included. Outstanding job.
Me: So you started a series on the Gulf war? TRO: yes Me: And then you also started a multi video series on the battle of Mogadishu? TRO: Exactly Me: And despite this you start a new series on the corral sea? TRO: Yes, here’s a trailer… PS: Love your videos m8, keep it coming
Outstanding, as always, by ”The Ops Room.” Wish my late WW2 dad could watch this. He was involved in the defense of Port Moresby, which if Coral Sea and Santa Cruz had been lost, would’ve been very bloody for the US and its allies.
I feel like that Japanese Light Carrier was a guy who messed up with the wrong gang and got beaten down by an angry mob, then it was dragged in the streets, rolled over by a truck, then it was set on fire. Then it got loaded on a plane, dropped off that plane 3,000m in the sky without a parachute. It was then shot by machine gun fire for 30 minutes, followed by an artillery strike. Whatever was left of it got chopped into perfect one inch cubes only to be dropped in lava. I've rarely seen such an overkill in naval warfare.
Dude you have near 500k subs. I started watching you a while back and have posted a few times. I thought you had around 100k Then. Great job man. I’m happy your channel is doing well. The content is tip top. Thank you again.
Japan: _has six fleet carriers available_ Also Japan: "Let's just take two fleet carriers and a light carrier and leave most of our carrier strength behind, what could possibly go wrong?"
God, battles like this would be SO different in modern age. I'm not sure a carrier group could hide with satellites around nowadays. Just no way. They'd def. never come 70 miles from each other and not know it haha. Really love Operations Room's recent videos.
They really are different these days. If the USA ever goes up against an enemy that has an actual advanced military (unlike absurd middle east "wars") its gonna be horrid for both sides.
The Japanese Zero had a range approaching 1600 miles. It would seem that the IJN could have moved on for two days and still been able to deliver the 9 Zeros to Rabaul. Any thoughts on how that move could have impacted the battle?
This videos are great. Thank you! I have one suggestion; would it be possible to put a changing distance scale on the maps? It is hard to judge how far apart the forces really were while all this was taking place. Thanks!
Excellent video! I'm a big fan of Pacific War history, but never realised that the Shoho was the first CV being sunk. Always thought that the Lexington was acctually the first carrier sunk at the Pacific theater. Please keep up the great work, sir!
You put a lot of emphasis on that last tomorrow. Part 2 releasing tomorrow confirmed?! One of the best history channels on yt, keep up the amazing work!
You did a lovely job of highlighting the troubles both sides had in attacking each other in this battle. Can't wait to see part 2. And also what you would have to say about Midway. Or some other battles like Stalingrad.
I think he has already done midway, and the next part of this was the battle of the corral Sea, which came out a while ago, this is a bit of a prequel lol.
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nice
Are you Tomographic? Either you are him, either you have almost identical voices. 🤔
Does not make me confident that someone put U.S.S. Idaho on a Royal Navy King George V Class battleship.
cease
Do what you've gotta do to pay the bills, man. I love your content and am glad you've got these opportunities.
It amuses me how many of these stories start with "however, American/British code breakers...".
Germany: "This is the plan. Got it?"
Japan: "Yep, cool"
Italy: "Yep, cool"
US/UK: "Yep, cool"
🤣
US/UK: *ducks back behind fence separating them from the neighbors*
Code breakers were so important to the war effort. If it weren't for them, the war probably would have been much different.
@@Igzilee same end result but after much more destruction and death
The British broke the main code for Nazi Germany early on and had to use it strategically as to not alarm them that they had broken it.
The more I watch these videos, the more I realize how accurate the Battleship board game is
Naval Warfare in a nutshell :
"Where the fuck are they? And where the fuck are we?"
@@geniemiki *_"Where the fuck I am?"_*
-Russian CSGO map creator/Every sailor in WW2
Why am I?
@@advanced0018 how am I?
@@w4rl0rd93 who am I?
When you're not sure if the burning, flooding light carrier is gonna sink, so you triple and quadruple tap it just to be sure.
Well,it was a carrier.Priority target #1 after Pearl.
Dude, so true, that shit got me laughing bro
If it was a US carrier, there definitely would have been the possibility of the damage control parties putting the fires out and stopping the leaks.
Something like this almost happened at the Battle of Midway. When the two SBD squadrons from the Enterprise finally came across the carriers, everyone started to follow the lead attackers onto one carrier, the Kagi. Fortunately, a Lieutenant Best recognized this error and took his group to attack a second carrier, Akagi. Had he not done so, the Japanese would have had two carriers rather than just one after this attack.
I laughed so fucking hard when I watched that
Task Force 17: This is an attack.
Shoho: Dear god.
Task Force 17: There's more.
Shoho: No...
(Hits her 21 more times)
The Billy Mays style of warfare.
Zukaku and shokaku :rip our friend light carrier shoho
5th Carrier Division avenging Shoho: *you sunk our light carrier, we sunk your fleet carrier*
@@yoseipilot Shokaku and Zuikaku: You touch my ship, I will break your fucking knees
*Proceeds to nae nae on Lexington*
5th Carrier Division launch her strike and finding Task Force 17: *''scratch the bathtub''*
the most confusing thing about this battle is that the American Mk 14 torpedoes actually managed to sink something
Well that was because they didn't use the MK 14 on the Shōhō...MK 13 was used...the early MK 13s worked very well. Really killed the Shōhō. But after they ran of of them they used the later version of the 13 (with propellers after the fins) on the other two Japanese carriers.. with very poor results.
@@deafsmith1006 they were using the same Mk. 13s at Midway a month later and those performed in a manner that should have resulted in summary court martials for everyone at BuOrd who even _thought_ of the word 'torpedo'.
@@marckyle5895bro replied a year later, hope he finds this message
@@-ZM_Gaming- No worries if he doesn't
Despite the bureau of ordinance's best efforts some of the mk-14's did actually work as intended, 20% of them to be specific.
I am laughing very hard at wave after wave of aircraft attacking the T17 Support Group, and the last wave is actually US bombers, like the confused looking around scene from Pulp Fiction.
Really shows how incredibly confusing situations like this actually are. Both sides are on the razors edge of failure.
“Fortunately their bombing, like the Japanese’s, was disgraceful.”
Ya burnt!
Reminds me of that time British Swordfish bombers tried to sink the HMS Sheffield, thinking it was the Bismarck.
@@AudieHolland they would sunk her but for the explodey magnetic fuses on the torpedoes.
Which one?
It's amazing how the Pacific war reshaped the concept of naval warfare. Essentially overnight most traditional naval tactics became obsolete and the strategy became centered around these massive games of hide and seek. Find the carriers, and send everything you can possibly send to kill them. Do that, and you win.
And after that, naval warfare just became find the ships, since enemy is unlikely to have carriers now, and throw a few salvos of cruise missiles against them. Naval warfare severely shrank after this war
@@earlbinvicoalthough to be fair there haven't been major powers going at it, at sea, since ww2. If China ever has a go at Taiwan we will get a look.
This Illustrated to me better than any other lesson I've had so far the amount of confusion and blind stabbing in the dark that led up to this battle, which none of the time could have known was so pivotal.
I think montemayor made a pretty good video on it
Being an Admiral leading a task force in this situation sounds like the most stressful thing imaginable. So many decisions to make, so much information coming in (often inaccurate), and any wrong decision can spell doom for the task force or even doom for their country's efforts in the theater.
that is the reason not everyone in a Navy becomes Admiral.
@@lapin46 very true
@@lapin46 We in the future are so lucky we had these men in charge and in battle back 80 years. And that's theunderstatement o f understatements.
facts. seems like the hardest job in the world because if you fail you and hundreds of your comrades die
after 6 months of this, fletcher lost dozens of pounds and came down with shingles. took him several more months to recover and return to the front line
What a lovely surprise on a Saturday afternoon.
Agreed. Especially this time of year.
I get ‘em Sunday morning in Aus - perfect!
It's Monday morning
sunday morning
Love the USA and Japan war at sea 👍😊
There is also the fact that the Japanese aircraft mistakenly thought Yorktown was a friendly air carrier later in the battle.
*Lands on Yorktown*
"Hey, why.... why.. uh.. did we capture American planes or.."
the Yorktown must have been the ultimate zombie boogeyman by the end of the war for the japanese
@@mackhomie6 no. That was Enterprise.
@@ph89787 I dunno. midway?
@@mackhomie6 that was only a month after. Also the IJN thought they were only facing 2 carriers. So even though they did eventually sink Yorktown. They thought they got Enterprise and Hornet.
Those carrier planes overkilling the Shoho just want the assists.
American aviators we're untested and just a bit cocky. They had similar problems during the Marshal Island Raid in February, and will still at Midway the month next.
Hey man, anything for an additional EXP's.
Wow, the new animation of carrier aircraft launches looks really sharp!
I agree. What a exciting surprise when the camera zoomed in and showed the aircraft launching one by one.
God damn, Shoho is the ultimate case of "Stop, its already dead!"
imagine the feeling of your CO telling you that you just cost the United States 2 carriers. I dont even want to imagine that feeling
I'd just clear the bridge with a major Fart.
@Rod democRAT lol
@Rod I feel bad that your mind has been so poisoned that you feel the need to comment politically on a complete non-political statement. Maybe some time away from the internet might be a good idea?
@@Alexander_Grant Some time away from the internet would be good to all of us
Fletcher was an awful! He was constantly wrong. History shows he was always blessed with capable subordinates. The only loss his officers and men couldn't save was Wake Island, hence the low opinion of him by Marines as well as other Admirals. He was quietly given shore duty after 1942.
This situation seems just... So utterly farcical. Everyone's missing everyone else, the two sides being 70 miles apart and never knowing... I can only imagine that there was lots of swearing once all the After-Action Reports were compiled.
Fog of war is a bitch. This is why satellites, FLIR, and GPS are so crucial.
This was the first carrier vs carrier battle. Nobody got it right on the first try.
Imagine the faces of the admirals if they could see this video today
Its the first time in history two naval fleets have ever fought a battle without being able to directly see each other, they were never going to get it right the first time.
It was a new kind of warfare and both navies were making up the rules as they went but missed opportunities were the norm before GPS. Early in WWII in the Mediterranean the Italians were out with a cruiser group looking for a British cruiser group. At the same time in the same area the French had a cruiser group out looking for the Italians. In all the maneuvering at one point all three groups were within thirty miles of each other and never spotted each other. A good what if for a miniatures replay is the French and the Italians did ran into each other.
Wow, the IJN Shoho wasn't sunk, it was slaughtered. Interesting to see the TBD's did accomplish something of note before the butchery at Midway.
I believe why they where so succesful was because the conditions where ideal for torpedo attack. They didn't have massive amount of flak coming at them and no enemy fighters either, so they had time to line up their attacks perfectly on a allready damaged and probably slowed down carrier. In Midway they didn't have any of those benefits and pretty much got slaughtered before they could make their attacks. Military Aviation History channel made a good video about the TBD that explained all this I just wrote in a more greater detail if you want to learn more.
@@pyorre2441 Exactly, at Midway it was an actual combat situation, and the TBDs proved unfit for such conditions, unfortunately
And IJN Shoho was *only* carrier that was hit by TBD Devastor with Mk.13 old Torpedo
Ah. The Battle of the Coral Sea. Also known as the naval version of "It is a Tiger!"
Is this a reference to allied tankers claiming any tank they see in Normandy is a tiger? Even though there were barely any tigers assigned there?
@@Rokaize Yep
@Apocalypse21 I've seen several references to "torpedo boats" that seem like a kind of running joke. My investigation of the naval aspects of the Pacific war being somewhat recent, I'm not quite up to speed yet. Can you fill me in on the "torpedo boats" reference? Thanks.
@Apocalypse21 Cool! Thanks for your kind reply, and thanks especially for pointing me in the Drachward direction. In fact, it's on Drach's channel that I've seen most of the "torpedo boats" references. And given his penchant for brilliant (...I think so, anyway) tongue-in-cheek humor, I've gotten the impression that the joke is based on one of the witticisms Drach sprinkles throughout his excellent videos. Thanks again, amigo. 😎
The lack of situational awareness compared to today reminds me of reading Cujo. Written in a time when cell phones weren't a thing is all that makes the peril in that story believable.
And the fact that all of King's stories take place in New England explains why no one has a gun to just shoot the damn thing.
@@benn454 Yeah we are pretty hamstrung here.
Imagine you're a sailor operating on flight deck of Yorktown or Lexington and see Japanese planes tried to land on your ship
Meanwhile, the ablazed crew on the Shōhō: This is fine
These are better than ANYTHING being put put out by The History Channel or Discovery. Thanks for all your time and energy put into these videos. These accurate break downs of battles are incredible.
Wow, thank you!
This channel, Montemayor and Historia Civillis all show just how badly those two cable stations suck now.
My dad was with the 20th Seabees which with Army, Marine Radar units and other Seabee units invaded Woodlark Island in July 1943. There were still remains of Japanese sailors by the hundreds from the carrier Shoho who had washed up on the beaches of Southern Woodlark Island who were killed in the battle of the Coral Sea.
A Saturday night treat.
Fantastic coverage of the battle. Look forward to the next part.
Great production quality, 10/10! When will the second part of the Battle of Modigashu come out?
Very soon, hopefully 🤞
It's a shame Yorktown'ts planes didn't target the rest of the flotilla, rather than striking an overkilling blow on the light carrier.
But, as said by someone else in the comments, hindsight is 20/20.
The rule of war of the sea is the aircraft carrier is the first priority since the commander is mostly station as long as she float target her more!!
The US got a lot of lessons learned from Coral Sea, they managed to take some onboard by Midway, but even then control of the strikes was luck more than design.
Those US Aircrew behind it didn't know how many hits that Shoho was already striked, they are not even aware if it was fleet or light carrier, but they focus mostly on them, because 'light carrier is more important than Battleship'.
People who watched the teaser earlier:
"They got us in the first half not gonna lie"
For real, he’s playing with our emotions now
My grandfather managed Rabaul golf course after the war, the amount of relics on those islanders he said was amazing. He said the Japanese eventually came back years later and cleaned it up. But to this day there’s plenty of crashed planes through the forrests and a few ships still there.
One of the main air fields there’s was destroyed by a volcano and all you could see was the tails of the planes.
This channel has become my new obsession, I can't wait for the second part of this and the second part of the battle of Mogadishu
*Task Force 17.3 got attack by Japan and US planes*
Task Force 17.3: WTF! Did we piss off someone?!
Thank god they are shit shots.
Sir that last pass was the army.
A pleasant stormtrooper moment! :p
@@OrDuneStudios Ah that's why
I’m a simple person, I see operations room upload.. I watch
Damn, they kinda went overboard when they turned the Shoho into scrap metal
PEARL FUCKING HARBOR
@@offensivebias1898 ok?
When even overwhelming firepower isnt enough so you go full dakka.
i don't think anyone's gonna be finding much to scrap after that much damage...
You forgot about Nanking didn’t you. No such thing as overboard when killing imperial Japanese
Shouhou: _"Oh boy, I sure do love being an IJN carrier"_
^^ *Clueless*
Shouhou 15 minutes later: *_"My day be so fine. Then boom; Fletcher"_*
Me = finally back at home from a 14 hour day eating and mostly drinking. Quite drunk, quite tired. Sat deep in the couch, feet on the coffee table, pick my phone up and realise this gem is waiting for me. My night is complete. Thank you TOR.
Thank you for uploading. The Battle of the Coral Sea gets so little attention following so close to Midway, but I find it so interesting. Love the details you've included. Outstanding job.
I can feel the tension of both sides in this story. Can't wait for your next vid. Excellent work!
Thank you so much!
Me: So you started a series on the Gulf war?
TRO: yes
Me: And then you also started a multi video series on the battle of Mogadishu?
TRO: Exactly
Me: And despite this you start a new series on the corral sea?
TRO: Yes, here’s a trailer…
PS: Love your videos m8, keep it coming
My step dad served on the USS coral sea. Just that name brought back so many memories. I miss the old f¿c#er
I had to work today and came home dead tired. What a nice surprise to find an Ops Room video waiting for me. Not gonna be a bad Sat after all...
Outstanding as always! And I am definitely looking forward to part II.
Absolutely love that you show the planes taking off,also well done on all the effort on this
Thanks a lot!
Outstanding, as always, by ”The Ops Room.” Wish my late WW2 dad could watch this. He was involved in the defense of Port Moresby, which if Coral Sea and Santa Cruz had been lost, would’ve been very bloody for the US and its allies.
I feel like that Japanese Light Carrier was a guy who messed up with the wrong gang and got beaten down by an angry mob, then it was dragged in the streets, rolled over by a truck, then it was set on fire. Then it got loaded on a plane, dropped off that plane 3,000m in the sky without a parachute. It was then shot by machine gun fire for 30 minutes, followed by an artillery strike. Whatever was left of it got chopped into perfect one inch cubes only to be dropped in lava.
I've rarely seen such an overkill in naval warfare.
As someone who want to go into Cavalry/Recon, your videos make me more and more aware of just HOW important good information is.
this is the best way to tell history. this and mark felton
Was literally just thinking how nice it’d be to watch a new Operations Room video, what a blessing! Thanks brother!! A1 job once again!!
"A further 11 1,000 pound bomb hits, and 10 more torpedo hits" This is literally the "Stop stop he's already dead" meme. Jesus Christ.
Shoho is the definition of overkill
The attack on the Shoho is the equivalent of scoring a hit in battleship and then spending the next 20 turns calling that exact same location.
Hindsight is 20/20. If someone made WWII in a 100% historically accurate strategy game, nobody would play it. Lmao
I do play War on the Sea though, and it's pretty accurate regarding fog of war/reconnaissance and such
By far the best battle analysis content on TH-cam. Superb video as always from The Operations Room
Thanks again!
“Stop! STOP!! She’s already dead!”
*points at Shoho and cries*
Shoho admiral: "STOP, STOP, WE'RE ALREADY DEADDD"
Dude you have near 500k subs. I started watching you a while back and have posted a few times. I thought you had around 100k Then. Great job man. I’m happy your channel is doing well. The content is tip top. Thank you again.
I'll consider this my birthday present. Thanks. Can't wait for part 2
Yessss a new world war 2 video!! Please keep them coming! Very interesting as always!
Your documentaries make history much clearer, thanks!
Glad you like them!
That is just pure overkill
Thank you once again. Your productions are a healthy counter-operation to that shit which fill every nook and cranny on the 'Net.
I love these videos. They take the movie out of historic events. Pure history mistakes and all. I love it
3:38 ah yes the legendary simplicity of Japanese operations design
Fantastic as always! Can't wait till Part 2!
You never fail to amaze me guys. Wonderful take of this battle. As a man who served in the navy, you guys are amazing!
Just finished Ian Toll series and I’m onto The Fleet at Flood Tide. Great timing
Loved the video guys! Can't wait for Part 2 to come out!
They smashed that jqp carrier holysmokes
I just imagine two people facing away from each other separated by 1ft..looking for each other with binoculars lol
Great video, can’t wait for the next part! Also, do you know when you’ll release part 2 for the battle of Mogadishu?
Hopefully very soon 🤞
sometime in October
He released a trailer
Japan: _has six fleet carriers available_
Also Japan: "Let's just take two fleet carriers and a light carrier and leave most of our carrier strength behind, what could possibly go wrong?"
God, battles like this would be SO different in modern age. I'm not sure a carrier group could hide with satellites around nowadays. Just no way. They'd def. never come 70 miles from each other and not know it haha. Really love Operations Room's recent videos.
They really are different these days. If the USA ever goes up against an enemy that has an actual advanced military (unlike absurd middle east "wars") its gonna be horrid for both sides.
I find satellites, radar and gps lame af.
Its more fun to be in fog of war
@@tygrenvoltaris4782I know I’m late but I agree with you bro.
14:30 to 15:30 OVERKILL. Also good video as usual man!
A great animated story as usual. I hope that part 2 will be published soon. I am looking forward to that !
Holy overkill Batman, that’s a lot of punishment oh that carrier
I randomly got recommended this channel and now I'm addicted
Watch the Desert Storm playlist next
Now that's overkill.
An Operations Room Vid on saturday? A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.
Great job mate! I'm glad to see the sponsorship, get paid for the hard work you do!
The Japanese Zero had a range approaching 1600 miles. It would seem that the IJN could have moved on for two days and still been able to deliver the 9 Zeros to Rabaul. Any thoughts on how that move could have impacted the battle?
Well that range was not all that long.... Effective combat radius was more like 550 miles( yes 1100 miles or so 'range'.)
Really enjoyed this post. Brilliant visuals really helps illustrate the battle.
Thank you for your time on this.
One of my favorite parts of any video is when the admiral calls the allied bombers disgraceful after surviving a friendly attack!
Even though I know this war like the back of my hand, the way Ops Room uses graphics really knits it together.
Ayooooooo, my girl shoho got obliterated. I can't imagine the escorts watching Shoho became a fireworks wave after wave.
16:00 why did the B26s try to bomb friendly ships lmao
Jesus christ they REALLY wanted to sink the Shoho 🤣. Almost 20 bomb hits and not far off 15 torp hits. MURICA
Shoho ablaze and sinking........
Yorktown attack force....."Let's practice for the next battle at Midway"
This is a glorious video.
Blind Luck or divine intervention that IJN missed sinking Yorktown and Lexington giving there pilots bombing the Shoho a safe place to return.
This videos are great. Thank you! I have one suggestion; would it be possible to put a changing distance scale on the maps? It is hard to judge how far apart the forces really were while all this was taking place. Thanks!
everyone my age is at the neighbors house having a party and im stuck here with all to keep me going being ur vids... thank you man!
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Shoho: freakin’ dies
Every escort: 😳
If there's anything more apt for the "Stop! Stop! He's already dead!" meme, IJN Shoho was it.
Shoho translated into English means overkill….
That said, a nice warmup for the absolute carnage to come.
Excellent video! I'm a big fan of Pacific War history, but never realised that the Shoho was the first CV being sunk. Always thought that the Lexington was acctually the first carrier sunk at the Pacific theater. Please keep up the great work, sir!
You tease us with the battle of Mogadishu Part 2, but then treat us with this video on the next day? What a pleasant surprise!
Again I can't stress the brilliance of the videos
You put a lot of emphasis on that last tomorrow. Part 2 releasing tomorrow confirmed?! One of the best history channels on yt, keep up the amazing work!
You did a lovely job of highlighting the troubles both sides had in attacking each other in this battle. Can't wait to see part 2. And also what you would have to say about Midway. Or some other battles like Stalingrad.
I think he has already done midway, and the next part of this was the battle of the corral Sea, which came out a while ago, this is a bit of a prequel lol.
@@infinatefail302---I guessed that much when I saw part I in the title of this video.
The fog of war appears to be an understated description of this battle.