The many brutal night actions of Guadalcanal were won not by the side who perfectly foresaw and countered the enemies strategy, but the side who fucked up least and less massively
As a baby boomer I was stunned by the incompetence revealed early in the war by french, brits, and usa. But i learned that this is due to 'peace criteria' and 'war criteria' for evaluation of commanders and soldiers. Perfect formations, all well dressed with shoes polished gets points. Ragged formations, dressed in work fatigues, but well trained get docked points. We end up seeing it in every branch and almost every initial contact with the enemy. Guadalcanal are one of the few pearly actions with experienced commanders in charge who are there based on skills not their parade ground polish. And the marines appear to learn more quickly than army or navy leadership on what makes a good commander and how to win.
@@earlyriser8998 It's certainly true that all sides' militaries faced a "weeding out" process early in the war to get rid of officers who could check all the right boxes in peacetime but couldn't cut it in combat. However, I don't think that's really the story for these battles around Guadalcanal. Night naval battles can be chaotic messes at the best of times, and the USN was at a clear disadvantage early on because they simply hadn't trained for night fighting the way that the IJN had. Both good and bad officers alike were struggling to figure out what did and didn't work in those night battles, going up against an enemy that already had a lot of those answers (at least until new technologies came fully into play).
This thread is fantastic... Feel like Scott accidentally won that victory. His caution, while justified, precluded a potentially much greater victory, but he committed a number of weird tactical errors. And one unintentionally brilliant maneuver...
Good the see the USS Laffey , that destroyer certainly had its close calls. And Scott, that man lucked out so hard. He probably returned to port and said "I was able to expertly cross the T of the IJN and destroy them in a night action. Just don't ask questions and believe me when I say, that I totally meant to do that"
@@Checkmate3604 yes correct that’s the one I’m referring to, I think the OP saw Operations Room’s video on the later Laffey and thought this was the same ship.
I honestly don’t know how they find all this information such as the exact locations to animate. That’s quality work. Also I love your History channel ExpandedHistory!
nah, just a lot of bad deicision making from an overly conservative commander. chose the wrong ship as his flag; didn't listen to his technical experts when they were telling him he was wrong based on the data. pretty much the whole fleet knew what was going on and where the enemy was except scott cuz he cared about his ego more than the truth. says a lot about the commander's lack of leadership that his fleet opens fire without him ordering them to do so. they won in spite of him, not because of.
@@oldfrend Scott didn't have a very good showing within the battle itself, but it's also important to remember that he did a lot of important things to prepare the ships under his command for this sort of engagement prior to the events we see here. So even though his ships seem to be winning in spite of him here, I think Scott deserves some credit for his ships recognizing and doing what needed to be done even when his direct command and control in the battle wasn't much help. I suspect that Scott would also would have been able to learn and apply some lessons from this battle and do a better job in the future. Unfortunately, Callaghan's slightly greater seniority meant Scott would never get that chance.
I salute the Captain of the U.S.S. Helena. It's men like that who ultimately achieved victory for the Allies. I have heard that some of these men who took the initiative & acted on their own, believed they would be Court Marshaled but were instead promoted. Excellent history. Thank You
There was a bomber group leader in the battle of the Philippine Sea who got so bored orbiting out of the way of his group's carriers that he led them on an un-briefed and un-approved raid on a nearby Japanese airfield. Apparently he was certain that he'd be court-marshalled as well. Love those guys.
I am amazed how much punishment these warships can take before sinking. I realize that's how/why they're built, but they're also built to sink each other. Incredible how much damage it actually takes to do the job.
This would not be the last time Aoba would take heavy damage and still manage to limp home. The ship would later take a direct hit from a B-17 which would detonate her torpedoes and later still, she would take a torpedo and still survive.
I assume in this action its due to the short range, shells would impact into the hull above water and the superstructure and wouldn't cause a lot of damage that would cause flooding. But in almost all cases warships, especially cruisers, were combat ineffective long before they were in any serious danger of sinking. By the point you are sinking likely a large portion of your crew is dead or wounded, communication is hampered, equipment is destroyed, and radar or any other sensors you have are disabled - hence why you often see warships peel off from a formation very quickly.
USS Scott (DDG-996) was eventually named for RADM Scott. He was killed along with many of his staff when the ship he was on - the USS Atlanta - was hit by gunfire from the heavy cruiser USS San Francisco during the nighttime fighting in the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. Scott posthumously received the Medal of Honor for his actions in the Pacific Theater of World War II.
In other words, he was awarded the MOH for the actions of the other ships captains who despite his blunder enable them to win the battle. Just another MacArthur MOH.
@@badweetabix Scott wasn't even the Officer in Charge when he was killed, he was second in command. It was Admiral Callahan that was in command (who was also killed along with his entire staff as well aboard the USS San Francisco). Callahan was previously the Chief of Staff for area commander Admiral Ghormley before Ghormley was canned in favor of Bull Halsey. Callahan was then given command of Task Force 67 over Scott because he had been a rear admiral 15 days longer. Operations Room literally did a video about the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. Come on now lol.
@@Looscannon94 Callaghan apparently made no plan with his cohorts, then he issued confusing orders. It was his flagship that mistakenly hit Scott's U.S.S. Atlanta (though I believe that Kirishima and other Japanese ships hit her as well). She was scuttled the next day so no one will ever know for certain. In any case, Scott did best he could at Cape Esperance, especially given the information the USN believed about Japanese capabilities. He did prevent Henderson Field from being shelled that night, and that Japanese cruiser division was retired to other non-frontline duties for the rest of WWII as only Kinugasa was fit for service for a long time.
The fact that Scott didn't use the Helena or Boise as his flagship because of their high tech radar at the time makes the management of his battleline much more confusing before the shooting starts
@@robomaster20 I do not know for fact, but I would guess that heavy cruisers had better command facilities compared to light ones. If that is true, taking CA for command ship makes sense (specially in time when extremely small number of admirals new how to use radar for there advantage).
My grandfathers older brother, Clarence Christensen, Electrician’s Mate 1st Class, USN, was aboard the destroyer USS Duncan during this engagement. We never really understood how exactly he died from friendly fire. Only just this past Memorial Day, my mother found some old documents, and I figured out that he must have been at this battle. This video breaks it down perfectly, and now we understand the circumstances of his death. Thanks man!!!!!! Sent this out to my relatives!!
Man, Scott almost messed that up so many times. He got so lucky that the crew of Helena actually used their radar correctly and fired even when he didn't want them too, otherwise the Japanese might've come close enough to destroy most of them.
Most people underestimate the importance of this battle due to its size, but the morale this victory provided to the US helped win Guadalcanal and the whole war.
It was perhaps the definitive moment for the US citizens to believe the war was even winnable. I could be wrong, but I would hazard a guess that 1942 may have been one of the most pivotal years in all of human history. Simply because of how horribly different the world would be now, had any of it gone the other way...
Glad I lived in Japan; my host family included a ww2 Pacific theater veteran; on my last day he spoke for ten minutes but my nihongo wasn't able of deciphering. These videos show me what serving in that part of the world must have felt like, I especially feel for the Japanese: in foreign waters without radar surrounded by strafing planes, PT boats, etc serving under an unforgiving military chain of command. It couldn't have been easy for any soldier serving there; thank you all for your service; these battles made all sides undoubtedly more knowledgeable, wealthier and hopefully more wise as well.
I've been reading "Neptune's Inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal" recently and honestly was kind of surprised you hadn't done a Cape Esperance video yet. And now here you are providing one like 2 days later lol. You'll have to do the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands next.
This is awesome. I’d love to see a video of the sinking, hiding and eventual rescue of the Helena’s crew. My great grandfather was one of the gunnery officers on Helena and survived the sinking and lived among the natives until his eventual rescue. I’ve read all the books but a video would be neat to watch.
The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal is one of the least commonly known engagements of WW2, but in my opinion one of the most fascinating and horrifying. Well done as usual; you do great work with this channel.
8:08 of course it fails to explode, it's a Mark 14 torpedo, the best torpedo ever built till that time, the Japanese could never come up with better one, right?
In fairness to the torpedo, it SHOULDN'T have armed when being launched directly into the structure. Aside from premature launch, it did exactly what it's supposed to in this situation.
Very cool timing. Every year around Memorial Day in the US, I read my grandfather’s war journal from his time on Guadalcanal and the pacific. Absolute hell on earth that they went through. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for illustrating this battle. I grew up right next to the memorial of the USS San Francisco. Standing next to her hull and reading her story, I could only imagine what she went through. This gives a new, deeper found appreciation to the remains every time I go by it.
I seriously love this channel. I love history. I love Military history. Your visuals and play by play are simple but very effective. Thank you for the Awesomeness
My wife and I enjoyed touring the Laffey at Patriots Point in Charleston, South Carolina. A great museum which also includes the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Yorktown and submarine U.S.S. Clamagore.
The "Americal Division" had no official number during World War II. They became the 23rd Infantry Division during the Vietnam War when the division was reactivated. This Division was one of only two in the U.S. Army during World War II that did not have a numerical designation, the other was the "Philippine Division" lost in the Philippines early in the war.
My only critique is incredibly minor - the use of a 50-star U.S. flag instead of the 48-star. Other than that this is a great video! I love the work from this channel.
...Well there were only 48 states at the time... Alaska and Hawaii wouldn't gain statehood till 1959. Hence why our Alaska class battlecruisers were all named after territories and not states like battleships.
@@mailbox3982 He wasn't clear on what he was referring to, thought he didn't know Alaska and Hawaii weren't states at the time, which is common tbh. Also... nunya? lol
Every single video is absolutely stunning and genuinely draws me in to watch another. I was curious and wanted to ask, will you cover the battle of Leyte gulf?
I'm guessing Leyte Gulf will require at least four videos: one each for the battles of Sibuyan Sea, Cape Engano, Surigao Strait, and of course the Battle off Samar.
The comment by Expanded History is perfectly on the spot. I was going to write something to the same effect but he preceded me! Very well done Operations Room...and Expanded History as well!
Loved the video @The Operations Room! Can't wait for the next video guys! It's been a while since there's was a video on the Guadalcanal Campaign come to the Channel. Really hoping for USS South Dakota and USS Washington to have their Finest Hour come here as well!
Books on the naval battle at Guadalcanal tell me that the Captain of the Helena was in the process of developing a combat information center and knew where every ship was. The Captain of the Boise did not trust radar, which told him where the Japanese where so lit off his search lights. The worse damage done to American ships at Savo island and here occurred when shells hit the seaplanes and their fuel. According to books I've read. Great job on both battles.
Great piece of history. Thank you for the detailed narration. This is a wonderful channel. I watch your presentations within hours of their posting. Would love to hear more about Mig-28's....
I JUST finished "Neptune's Inferno" and I see this on TH-cam lol Great book btw, amazing coverage on the naval operations of Guadalcanal. Also on audible.
“Scott what are you doing in San Francisco, go to a ship with actual radar, NO stop, wait for your destroyers to finishing their turn, what are you waiting for OPEN FIRE, no cease fire you are hitting one of your ships 🤬aaaah”
My grandfather was Francis Shepard Conlon EM2 USN. “Shep” He was on the Duncan that night. Some friends were eaten by sharks. Many died in front of him, badly burned and screaming in the ocean at night. He made it back to the states and was deployed on another ship for the remainder of the war in the Pacific. He survived the war and raised four successful children near Syracuse, NY. He never told anyone what he went through, only that his ship went down and he was okay. He was never an angry person always a kind gentleman. A great man, smoked a pipe. Hated highways and always took the back roads. Lived the quiet life until 1989. My hero I never really had the chance to know. I was proud to carry his name and sail back through the same waters & get my shellback like he did in our way to bomb Afghanistan.
my goodness, all the Operations Room videos covering WWII in the area around Guadalcanal have been intense. I can really see why that body of water is now called "Ironbottom Sound". it looks like some truly intense fighting occured there.
I’m impressed that American torpedoes were working as designed. It suggests the the navy Bureau of Ordinance wasn’t involved. Rather fleet commanders authorized the changes
These animations are beautifully, done. It gives an amazing perspective of how these battles went down. I hope these are taught at the Naval War College.
i remember when i was younger seeing Steve Irwin talk about this battle briefly during his "Ghosts of war" series, it's so cool years later coming across this and seeing a more detailed breakdown of the battle.
As someone who was born in raised in Boise, it was really amazing to hear that there even was a shipped named after the city, but also really cool to hear that the Boise was also a technologically impressive ship for the time!
Dude. Helena, San Francisco, and Laffey just seem to be involved in everything in that theatre. Why is it when something happens, it's always you three?
The many brutal night actions of Guadalcanal were won not by the side who perfectly foresaw and countered the enemies strategy, but the side who fucked up least and less massively
As a baby boomer I was stunned by the incompetence revealed early in the war by french, brits, and usa. But i learned that this is due to 'peace criteria' and 'war criteria' for evaluation of commanders and soldiers. Perfect formations, all well dressed with shoes polished gets points. Ragged formations, dressed in work fatigues, but well trained get docked points. We end up seeing it in every branch and almost every initial contact with the enemy. Guadalcanal are one of the few pearly actions with experienced commanders in charge who are there based on skills not their parade ground polish. And the marines appear to learn more quickly than army or navy leadership on what makes a good commander and how to win.
@@earlyriser8998 It's certainly true that all sides' militaries faced a "weeding out" process early in the war to get rid of officers who could check all the right boxes in peacetime but couldn't cut it in combat. However, I don't think that's really the story for these battles around Guadalcanal. Night naval battles can be chaotic messes at the best of times, and the USN was at a clear disadvantage early on because they simply hadn't trained for night fighting the way that the IJN had. Both good and bad officers alike were struggling to figure out what did and didn't work in those night battles, going up against an enemy that already had a lot of those answers (at least until new technologies came fully into play).
This thread is fantastic...
Feel like Scott accidentally won that victory. His caution, while justified, precluded a potentially much greater victory, but he committed a number of weird tactical errors. And one unintentionally brilliant maneuver...
sounds like a typical WoWs match to me
that's how war usually goes
This channel is the definition of quality over quantity.
agreed, alongside the channel primitive technology
@@Arphalia what
Agreed EH. It is all killer, no filler, and the wide gaps in uploads just make me more hungry for one when it finally drops.
So true!
I concur lol
The Operations Room always makes these engagement’s and battles much clearer and easier to comprehend. We’ve read, we’ve watched - now we understand.
Thanks :)
@@0101-s7v No 😄
So true. And the narrator has the voice of a proper WW2 general, IMHO, based on all the older war movies I watched.
Agreed, also have read about this action many times but didnt visualize it like this
@@0101-s7v it’ll be a hillbilly moment
Good the see the USS Laffey , that destroyer certainly had its close calls.
And Scott, that man lucked out so hard. He probably returned to port and said "I was able to expertly cross the T of the IJN and destroy them in a night action. Just don't ask questions and believe me when I say, that I totally meant to do that"
This is actually a different Laffey than DD-724, the ship that survived 52 Kamikazes in 1945. This ship was that Laffey’s namesake.
@@501ststudios7 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Laffey_(DD-459)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Laffey_(DD-724)
@@Checkmate3604 yes correct that’s the one I’m referring to, I think the OP saw Operations Room’s video on the later Laffey and thought this was the same ship.
Scott is killed in a later action of the same campaign
Scott - "Yeah I totally meant that" 😄
never before I've known some humorous higher-ups from the military...
This is a messy naval battle. Must have been a nightmare trying to piece together all the ships locations for the video.
I honestly don’t know how they find all this information such as the exact locations to animate. That’s quality work. Also I love your History channel ExpandedHistory!
@@sethkoch4449 read the book neptunes inferno, they show many of this details
nah, just a lot of bad deicision making from an overly conservative commander. chose the wrong ship as his flag; didn't listen to his technical experts when they were telling him he was wrong based on the data. pretty much the whole fleet knew what was going on and where the enemy was except scott cuz he cared about his ego more than the truth. says a lot about the commander's lack of leadership that his fleet opens fire without him ordering them to do so. they won in spite of him, not because of.
@Seth Koch I believe he stated he uses battle reports on one of his old videos to give him precise locations for his animated reconstruction.
@@oldfrend Scott didn't have a very good showing within the battle itself, but it's also important to remember that he did a lot of important things to prepare the ships under his command for this sort of engagement prior to the events we see here. So even though his ships seem to be winning in spite of him here, I think Scott deserves some credit for his ships recognizing and doing what needed to be done even when his direct command and control in the battle wasn't much help.
I suspect that Scott would also would have been able to learn and apply some lessons from this battle and do a better job in the future. Unfortunately, Callaghan's slightly greater seniority meant Scott would never get that chance.
You know night actions must have been messy when you don't start shooting your own units until after they have positively identified themselves
I salute the Captain of the U.S.S. Helena. It's men like that who ultimately achieved victory for the Allies. I have heard that some of these men who took the initiative & acted on their own, believed they would be Court Marshaled but were instead promoted. Excellent history. Thank You
There was a bomber group leader in the battle of the Philippine Sea who got so bored orbiting out of the way of his group's carriers that he led them on an un-briefed and un-approved raid on a nearby Japanese airfield. Apparently he was certain that he'd be court-marshalled as well. Love those guys.
So as Boise as well she fires so quick
I am amazed how much punishment these warships can take before sinking. I realize that's how/why they're built, but they're also built to sink each other. Incredible how much damage it actually takes to do the job.
The US Navy had God tier damage control.
This would not be the last time Aoba would take heavy damage and still manage to limp home. The ship would later take a direct hit from a B-17 which would detonate her torpedoes and later still, she would take a torpedo and still survive.
I assume in this action its due to the short range, shells would impact into the hull above water and the superstructure and wouldn't cause a lot of damage that would cause flooding. But in almost all cases warships, especially cruisers, were combat ineffective long before they were in any serious danger of sinking. By the point you are sinking likely a large portion of your crew is dead or wounded, communication is hampered, equipment is destroyed, and radar or any other sensors you have are disabled - hence why you often see warships peel off from a formation very quickly.
USS Scott (DDG-996) was eventually named for RADM Scott.
He was killed along with many of his staff when the ship he was on - the USS Atlanta - was hit by gunfire from the heavy cruiser USS San Francisco during the nighttime fighting in the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. Scott posthumously received the Medal of Honor for his actions in the Pacific Theater of World War II.
In other words, he was awarded the MOH for the actions of the other ships captains who despite his blunder enable them to win the battle. Just another MacArthur MOH.
@@badweetabix How was it his blunder that his ship was mistakenly shot at?
@@badweetabix Scott wasn't even the Officer in Charge when he was killed, he was second in command. It was Admiral Callahan that was in command (who was also killed along with his entire staff as well aboard the USS San Francisco). Callahan was previously the Chief of Staff for area commander Admiral Ghormley before Ghormley was canned in favor of Bull Halsey. Callahan was then given command of Task Force 67 over Scott because he had been a rear admiral 15 days longer.
Operations Room literally did a video about the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. Come on now lol.
@@mbryson2899 Scott wasn't even the officer in charge when he died. It was Admiral Callahan. Dude is wrong all over the place haha
@@Looscannon94 Callaghan apparently made no plan with his cohorts, then he issued confusing orders.
It was his flagship that mistakenly hit Scott's U.S.S. Atlanta (though I believe that Kirishima and other Japanese ships hit her as well).
She was scuttled the next day so no one will ever know for certain.
In any case, Scott did best he could at Cape Esperance, especially given the information the USN believed about Japanese capabilities. He did prevent Henderson Field from being shelled that night, and that Japanese cruiser division was retired to other non-frontline duties for the rest of WWII as only Kinugasa was fit for service for a long time.
The fact that Scott didn't use the Helena or Boise as his flagship because of their high tech radar at the time makes the management of his battleline much more confusing before the shooting starts
Trust me, most officers and sailors will blatantly follow tradition over common sense, because they don't want to be the person who rocks the boat
@@robomaster20 I do not know for fact, but I would guess that heavy cruisers had better command facilities compared to light ones. If that is true, taking CA for command ship makes sense (specially in time when extremely small number of admirals new how to use radar for there advantage).
This is your best animation work yet. Along with Drachinifel's excellent scripting, this series is rapidly becoming my favorite content of yours
Actually he wasn't involved in this one, but thanks! :)
@@TheOperationsRoom still a great video! What video did drach collaborate on?
@@hdjono3351 Tassafaronga and Eastern Solomons 👍
@@TheOperationsRoom i guess it was your excellent scripting
My grandfathers older brother, Clarence Christensen, Electrician’s Mate 1st Class, USN, was aboard the destroyer USS Duncan during this engagement. We never really understood how exactly he died from friendly fire. Only just this past Memorial Day, my mother found some old documents, and I figured out that he must have been at this battle. This video breaks it down perfectly, and now we understand the circumstances of his death. Thanks man!!!!!! Sent this out to my relatives!!
Man, Scott almost messed that up so many times. He got so lucky that the crew of Helena actually used their radar correctly and fired even when he didn't want them too, otherwise the Japanese might've come close enough to destroy most of them.
Most people underestimate the importance of this battle due to its size, but the morale this victory provided to the US helped win Guadalcanal and the whole war.
It was perhaps the definitive moment for the US citizens to believe the war was even winnable.
I could be wrong, but I would hazard a guess that 1942 may have been one of the most pivotal years in all of human history. Simply because of how horribly different the world would be now, had any of it gone the other way...
Life is simple... you see a new Operations room video... you click it.
Glad I lived in Japan; my host family included a ww2 Pacific theater veteran; on my last day he spoke for ten minutes but my nihongo wasn't able of deciphering. These videos show me what serving in that part of the world must have felt like, I especially feel for the Japanese: in foreign waters without radar surrounded by strafing planes, PT boats, etc serving under an unforgiving military chain of command. It couldn't have been easy for any soldier serving there; thank you all for your service; these battles made all sides undoubtedly more knowledgeable, wealthier and hopefully more wise as well.
I've been reading "Neptune's Inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal" recently and honestly was kind of surprised you hadn't done a Cape Esperance video yet. And now here you are providing one like 2 days later lol.
You'll have to do the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands next.
This is awesome. I’d love to see a video of the sinking, hiding and eventual rescue of the Helena’s crew.
My great grandfather was one of the gunnery officers on Helena and survived the sinking and lived among the natives until his eventual rescue. I’ve read all the books but a video would be neat to watch.
The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal is one of the least commonly known engagements of WW2, but in my opinion one of the most fascinating and horrifying. Well done as usual; you do great work with this channel.
8:08 of course it fails to explode, it's a Mark 14 torpedo, the best torpedo ever built till that time, the Japanese could never come up with better one, right?
Japanese sailors: look out! American torpedo!
The torpedo: *boop*
Mark 15 technically
Correction Mark 15 torpedo.
Mark 14’s are submarine based, Mark 15 are surface based.
@@alexroselle furutaka: dont worry, only one in ten American torpedoes actually wor-💥
Maccalla: what was that?
Buchanan: the one in ten
In fairness to the torpedo, it SHOULDN'T have armed when being launched directly into the structure. Aside from premature launch, it did exactly what it's supposed to in this situation.
This is probably my favorite history channel.
the quality of these videos is better than anything on TV
It's always a good day when The Operations Room uploads
Very cool timing. Every year around Memorial Day in the US, I read my grandfather’s war journal from his time on Guadalcanal and the pacific. Absolute hell on earth that they went through. Thanks for the video.
One of the few channels that I watch as soon as I'm notified of a new vid. Great stuff.
Wow, thanks!
Always a good day when theres a new ops room vid
Thank you for illustrating this battle. I grew up right next to the memorial of the USS San Francisco. Standing next to her hull and reading her story, I could only imagine what she went through. This gives a new, deeper found appreciation to the remains every time I go by it.
This channel is a national treasure.
I seriously love this channel. I love history. I love Military history. Your visuals and play by play are simple but very effective. Thank you for the Awesomeness
It’s cool to see the same ships across videos, I’m invested the Laffey like it’s my favorite character 😂
My wife and I enjoyed touring the Laffey at Patriots Point in Charleston, South Carolina. A great museum which also includes the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Yorktown and submarine U.S.S. Clamagore.
This channel is incredible, I've binged loads of it the past few nights
I'm quite upset that I'll soon rinse the lot of it
keep going!
We're pedaling as fast as we can :)
I love how much you work on these.
Thanks!
Thank you for producing naval battles like these, you have no idea much we appreciate this
Seeing these come into my sub box make my day. Thanks for all the hard work you put in!
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for dropping more frequent vids as it’s much appreciated.
Great work. This is one of the few channels where I routinely watch the videos more than once.
Wow, thanks!
Just shows the Advantage of Having the Initiative in a Fight!
Another superb re-enactment from The Operations Room, thank you. 👍
Many thanks!
Amazing video, i love surface engagements. No long range airstrikes from carriers but ship on ship.
I see a video from T.O.R, I click. Another great addition, keep it up
Awesome! Thank you!
one of the very best channels out there
The "Americal Division" had no official number during World War II. They became the 23rd Infantry Division during the Vietnam War when the division was reactivated. This Division was one of only two in the U.S. Army during World War II that did not have a numerical designation, the other was the "Philippine Division" lost in the Philippines early in the war.
My only critique is incredibly minor - the use of a 50-star U.S. flag instead of the 48-star. Other than that this is a great video! I love the work from this channel.
...Well there were only 48 states at the time... Alaska and Hawaii wouldn't gain statehood till 1959. Hence why our Alaska class battlecruisers were all named after territories and not states like battleships.
@@jedhaney3547 yes, which is why I was pointing out that in the video there were 50-star flags
@@jedhaney3547 Not to be rude, but please properly read and understand comments before "correcting" them.
@@briandimascio2831 Ah, didn't get that was your point, my bad.
@@mailbox3982 He wasn't clear on what he was referring to, thought he didn't know Alaska and Hawaii weren't states at the time, which is common tbh. Also... nunya? lol
I just hit like before the video starts now as the content is solid. Thanks OR.
I absolutely love this channel. Top notch. Thank you very much
Glad you enjoy it!
Definitely the most in depth visual and graphic accounts of military operations I’ve ever been able to find. Love this channel!
Yes!!! I'm listening to Neptune's inferno right now, so this video couldn't have been timed better :)
Absolutely love your work man, keep it up!!
Hope you enjoy it!
Would love to settle in to watch a 1 hour plus episode. Better than any history lesson or film reenactment
I freaking total dig this channel. First Class mate!
Glad you enjoy it!
That torpedo room moment sounds like something out if a movie
Every single video is absolutely stunning and genuinely draws me in to watch another. I was curious and wanted to ask, will you cover the battle of Leyte gulf?
At some point!
@@TheOperationsRoom Let's goooo!
I'm guessing Leyte Gulf will require at least four videos: one each for the battles of Sibuyan Sea, Cape Engano, Surigao Strait, and of course the Battle off Samar.
Maybe! Certainly going to be an enjoyable video / series regardless!
Thanks!
Thank you!
The comment by Expanded History is perfectly on the spot. I was going to write something to the same effect but he preceded me! Very well done Operations Room...and Expanded History as well!
Thanks!
A fantastic summary of the battle. A ship's position and movement are essential to understand the naval battle.
Loved the video @The Operations Room! Can't wait for the next video guys! It's been a while since there's was a video on the Guadalcanal Campaign come to the Channel. Really hoping for USS South Dakota and USS Washington to have their Finest Hour come here as well!
Best historical channel on TH-cam
Books on the naval battle at Guadalcanal tell me that the Captain of the Helena was in the process of developing a combat information center and knew where every ship was. The Captain of the Boise did not trust radar, which told him where the Japanese where so lit off his search lights. The worse damage done to American ships at Savo island and here occurred when shells hit the seaplanes and their fuel. According to books I've read. Great job on both battles.
Great piece of history. Thank you for the detailed narration. This is a wonderful channel. I watch your presentations within hours of their posting. Would love to hear more about Mig-28's....
Thank you very much!
This video was released while I'm watch Taff in Exile doing a play through of War on the Sea.
This is genuinely what i wanted to see everytime a WWII documentary starts talking specifics about a battle
Love your WW2 naval videos, great job as always
Babe wake up, operations room made a video
Incredible to imagine what those soldiers must have seen whilst bobbing on the waves in their dinghies.
Great to see you back!!
I know these take a lot of effort, but was wondering about Pt 2 of the LaDrang story
Thanks for all of your hard work!!
Loving these naval battles🔥
Quality stuff my friend! Your videos keep improving!
Much appreciated!
So good, thank you for making these, love watching them ♥️
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ABOUT TIME WE GOT A NEW VIDEO
I JUST finished "Neptune's Inferno" and I see this on TH-cam lol
Great book btw, amazing coverage on the naval operations of Guadalcanal. Also on audible.
Rarely comment on videos. But I love your channel, I tell all my friends about it. The content is so good! Thank you
Long live the greatest generation of Americans. The world war 2 vets 🖤
Thank you ops room as always for the phenomenal work.
The number of mishaps in this battle had me almost audibly swearing at the screen there...
“Scott what are you doing in San Francisco, go to a ship with actual radar, NO stop, wait for your destroyers to finishing their turn, what are you waiting for OPEN FIRE, no cease fire you are hitting one of your ships 🤬aaaah”
Night actions man
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I recommend the book Neptune’s Inferno by the late James D. Hornfischer, a gripping but accurate account of the naval campaign for Guadalcanal.
Awesome work, always nice to see more videos 👍
Thank you!
I like the considerable gumption of the captains that order their ships to keep firing
I hadn't ever heard this referred to as the battle of Cape Esperance before.
Its known as the First Solomon Battle in Japanese sources
My grandfather was Francis Shepard Conlon EM2 USN. “Shep” He was on the Duncan that night. Some friends were eaten by sharks. Many died in front of him, badly burned and screaming in the ocean at night. He made it back to the states and was deployed on another ship for the remainder of the war in the Pacific. He survived the war and raised four successful children near Syracuse, NY. He never told anyone what he went through, only that his ship went down and he was okay. He was never an angry person always a kind gentleman. A great man, smoked a pipe. Hated highways and always took the back roads. Lived the quiet life until 1989. My hero I never really had the chance to know. I was proud to carry his name and sail back through the same waters & get my shellback like he did in our way to bomb Afghanistan.
dude, new OPS Room? Let me settle in! Love this channel. I recommend it to anyone who youtubes. Keep up the phenomenal content.
Great job in outlining an often difficult to understand action. Very nicely done.
my goodness, all the Operations Room videos covering WWII in the area around Guadalcanal have been intense. I can really see why that body of water is now called "Ironbottom Sound". it looks like some truly intense fighting occured there.
I've been watching your videos for literally years at this point and they never disappoint, thank you for all the hard work.
2:33 Yoooo those ships are huge!!!!
Another awesome video! Unless the next one is in the making already, an Operation Ten-Go would be cool.
I’m impressed that American torpedoes were working as designed. It suggests the the navy Bureau of Ordinance wasn’t involved. Rather fleet commanders authorized the changes
These animations are beautifully, done. It gives an amazing perspective of how these battles went down. I hope these are taught at the Naval War College.
i remember when i was younger seeing Steve Irwin talk about this battle briefly during his "Ghosts of war" series, it's so cool years later coming across this and seeing a more detailed breakdown of the battle.
Pizza and a new Operations Room video. I am a happy man.
As someone who was born in raised in Boise, it was really amazing to hear that there even was a shipped named after the city, but also really cool to hear that the Boise was also a technologically impressive ship for the time!
And that I got the pronunciation right? 😁
@@TheOperationsRoom Yes! I was actually pretty surprised to hear it 😅
I just watched Bismarck, so the thumbnail sparked some interest!
This is the best channel on youtube.
These are incredible! I hope you will be able to do the Battle pf Santa Cruz soon!
Agreed! Very good idea man
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I love this channel, you do an amazing job
I love that thumbnail picture. Has a certain poster quality.
I’m obsessed with this channel
As always sir - splendid job - well done! I await your next posting.
Dude. Helena, San Francisco, and Laffey just seem to be involved in everything in that theatre.
Why is it when something happens, it's always you three?
Fantastic video! I really hadn't known much about this battle so it's a welcome lesson.👍🙏