ADV's Most Overlooked Threat: Offensive Flygon

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • Flygon.
    #pokemonshowdown #competitivepokemon #pokemon

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  • @colinhendry6116
    @colinhendry6116 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    A Flygon has invaded my home. The enormous dragonfly was ransacking my cupboards for leftovers when it heard me enter. I tried to run but its Earthquake threw off my footing, and-when I tried to offer chips in the form of spikes-Flygon just hovered past them. I cried out “this is insane” as a Rock Slide destroyed the entire building.

  • @avibi
    @avibi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Feels good knowing some more seasoned players also liked pairing offensive Flygon with mons like Celebi, Gyarados or Sub+Toxic Magneton. Not saying I invented the wheel or anything close to that but it's nice to see my teambuilding choices vindicated. I do tend to prefer CB for the surprise factor that its sheer power represents, even if one could argue it ends up functioning as a less effective Dugtrio more often than not. If the team can keep a fast enough pace and offensive pressure, the unexpected KOs CB will net you will be worth the commitment, at least in my humble experience. It's also counterintuitively a better check to some offensive mons in 1v1 situations, which are more prone to happen at higher paces of play, and where Flygon comes in clean by virtue of being both Spikes and Sandstorm immune (which also helps conceal the lack of Leftovers at first glance). I have tried Fire Blast before, but you have now inspired me to build with Sub Flygon in mind, and on slightly less offensively-inclined teams. Nice vid!

  • @scramble7902
    @scramble7902 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey, usually a lurking viewer here, but just wanna say I root for you in ADV tournaments. Pleasant surprise seeing this in my recommended vids. Would love to see more of this kind of content if you enjoy making it, or maybe post game analyses. A look into your team building process could be fun too. I only ever casually ladder on Showdown, but it's still fun learning what goes on in the minds of top players.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video just showed up at the top of my home page ~15 minutes ago.

  • @xtinaxendrix
    @xtinaxendrix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    im gon off the zaza

  • @avansies
    @avansies 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this Kollin guy sure knows what hes talling about here.

  • @wraxiusgaming
    @wraxiusgaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The GOAT Kollin talking about the GOAT Offgon

  • @blkguy3rd
    @blkguy3rd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great content kollin. i couldnt help but notice that you addressed this to "If youre a friend of mine..." which i DEFINITELY am haha 😆 keep up the great work buddy love you

  • @whateew
    @whateew 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have historically considered offgon to be fraudulent; i understood however after some well placed substitutes that it was i, the fool

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not so much fraudulent as it is requiring serendipity. It's relatively weak and this can be exploited by some opposing mons that aren't uncommon.

  • @retro-meister
    @retro-meister 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    flygon been busting people up lately. dont know why youre giving away the secrets tho.

  • @lam9001
    @lam9001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    goated 🔥

  • @Joker22593
    @Joker22593 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I seriously don't get it. Every time a flygon came out in the ADV revival tournament, it floundered around like a wet noodle and did very little. Lots of people talk good about it and I don't get it.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's hard to build with outside of just being the Tyranitar check on Superman. And as far as I know, there's been no consensus on precisely how to optimize it outside of that---which means usages are more likely to miss than hit.
      "Flygon is bad" is a claim its lovers are trying to refute, for a reason.

  • @rainbowgg___
    @rainbowgg___ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll give it a try. I enjoyed sub 3 attacks Max atk flygon in the past. Rip celebi sometimes lol

  • @BKCplaysPokemon
    @BKCplaysPokemon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    100% agree

  • @Kollin7
    @Kollin7  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Realized I didn't mention choice band at all. Yeah, it *can* be good, but it's pretty hard to use and even harder to fit than Flygon normally is.
    Also realized listening to this that I'm a huge fan of the word "awesome"

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see it this way: it's a little bit harder and more committal to use than non-Choice Band Offensive Flygon, but with a bigger upside.
      Like 2-shotting Milotic in sand.

    • @xaropevic7918
      @xaropevic7918 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I were to guess, you think that the word "awesome" is well...awesome

  • @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl
    @SvenHeidemann-uo2yl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My boy:
    Flygon @ Soft Sand
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 16 SpA / 240 Spe
    Naughty Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Rock Slide
    - Fire Blast
    So much fun to use on offense superman.
    Breaks skarm, bliss, and Cele.
    progress maker and cleaner.
    I love this guy :)

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably do have to max out its offense like this to be worth it.

  • @TrulyAtrocious
    @TrulyAtrocious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Me with my 1050 Gen 3 ELO watching this video knowing damn well I'm never playing this developed-ass meta:

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's much less developed even than you'd think.

  • @purplesocks3200
    @purplesocks3200 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    gon with the wind

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That'd be CB Gust.

  • @Zpanther19
    @Zpanther19 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    they're sleeping on the Gon

  • @matt13classic
    @matt13classic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shoutouts to Kollin7, he's one to watch for sure...

  • @LightShady
    @LightShady 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could you put links to the teams in the description? Would like to try these out.

  • @amadora48
    @amadora48 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am not a friend of yours though please hold back with your bold statements in the future

  • @catholicguy3605
    @catholicguy3605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like banded flygon. Those eq's can be game ending

  • @figgyphresh
    @figgyphresh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info. Only critique I have is you should speak into the mic as if you are taking to someone in person. Your voice sounds so low like you are casually talking under your breath.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His mic setup isn't the best to begin with. You can hear his voice echo in the room or whatever.

  • @cr-zd2hn
    @cr-zd2hn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the rain sounds in the background are very nice.

  • @_Crowuh
    @_Crowuh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video.

  • @yourdagan
    @yourdagan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You neglected to mention Choice Band, which in my experiences has been the only Flygon I've felt threatening in the past 12 months.
    As you yourself admitted, Offensive Flygon practically requires too much support, to where you'd really need to be a Flygon fan to consider it worthwhile. And your notion of it being a "half" is also pertinent, as I do not feel it does anything consistently and reliably to where it can be considered a go-to in any building circumstance.
    I feel like Flygon is a mediocre mon that only has about 2 usable moves, and really really wishes it had some kind of a 3rd, like Dragon Dance, or even Sing---some kind of status move to use to make it more threatening in situations when QuakeSlide is just not.
    I would have liked to see some kind of more elaborated theory about what an ideal Offensive Flygon team / archetype would look like; something more concrete and also rationally exciting, because I didn't find this terribly convincing. I still think it's near the bottom of viability, hanging around with Jolteon and Cloyster.